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SirStakeholder I wouldn’t say better just faster in a straight line or straight ish road! Through the twisties I think the triple could hang or even leave slowly just depends how man straights you got!
@@tammyforbes2101 Okay, since you didn't get the Joke. (turbobusa best bike) You can hang with most bikes in the twisties, even if your mad underpowered. As long as you somewhat respect the speed limit, you'll be okay with about 50-80HP, depending on how high the terrain is where you ride. It mostly comes down on how well your line is in the corner and how well you know your bike and it's limits. A big factor is the ability the "read the road" or just outright know where you'll be riding. When you know how tight the corner will be, you'll know with how much speed to approch, how far leaning over and all that jazz. I'm pretty happy with my XF650 (that has 48Horsepower) that i got because regulation (EU laws suck sometimes) and i ride up to about 6000 fett above sealevel pretty comfy and i can hang around with naked bikes that have 100+Hp easily. You may not have the best acceleration, but if you can handle cornering, you'll be fine.
The street triple was my first bike and the best decision ever. Having said that I would agree with someone who doesn't know how to control their right wrist.
The fact that you can pull that off, doesn’t mean everybody will. There’s a reason why we’re seeing so many 250s and 300s in the streets nowadays, and it’s because riding a beast after having some bicycle experience may be disastrous for some people...
@Guy yes, and that is why people don't recommend starting with a zx6r as well. Like no one said those options were good but 765 was bad. I dont get you.
I recently bought that A2 street triple here in sweden. It has just 95 hp but still that same sweet triple sound. Hope to be riding it for a long time after I have gotten my A-license in June.
@Guy The 660 with A2 restrictions is limited to 47.6 hp, which is a lot less than what the 765 makes. When you get the full A license you can take the restrictions off and it will make 95 hp. Then it won't be that much slower i'd imagine. But i wouldn't know why anyone would pick the S version over the R/RS unless they were limited by an A2 license.
Just bought this bike here in Australia as a second bike, restricted version. Definitely wouldn't recommend this bike as a first bike. Its an awesome bike, and goes like a rocket. 😁✌️
Love the vids yam. I know you say it's a bad idea to start on a street triple but you also made me fall in love with them so I went and bought a 2015 street triple RX with the arrow pipe and its absolutely amazing. I passed my test on a mt07 and at low to mid range rpm it feels pretty similar to me. Crank it up past 8k and the street triple comes alive. And that sound will never get boring.
What’s a beginner vs novice? If you’re a responsible adult, done your courses, got your endorsement and have some miles under your belt, buy the friggin bike you want. Nothing worse than buying a boring bike you hate and won’t ride, just because you need to “start slow”. Like saying you need to play classical for two years before buying an electric guitar.
One thing is an instrument that you can make mistakes and nothing will happen, the other thing is a machine that will kill you by just one mistake, NEVER buy a dangerous motorcycle as a first bike even if you think you are responsable, because even if you rode a long time ago you need to practice a lot before jumping into a powerful motorcycle.
Comparing a machine that could potentially kill you to a musical instrument is the most asinine argument i have ever heard. I’m sure you’ve never been considered the smartest guy in the room
I was going type out a statement about the benefits of starting on a smaller CC bike, but honestly at the end of the day it's your money and your life. The one thing I will say though is DO NOT FINANCE your first bike if you plan to upgrade later. I think OTD with everything said and done a ninja 400 is like 5.5 or 6k? Nothing sucks worse than growing out of a bike but still having to make payments. Just save and buy a used one straight up.
To sum it up, #1 lots of low end power (bit much for a noob) #2 expensive #3 don’t rush into getting a beautiful high torque bike like the triumph street triple R (enjoy the journey) with a low cc bike noobie.
Well...I bought the exact same bike, and year model, as my first bike (in black though). I never felt that the bike was tossing me around. In the first 1000km, I had it in the rain-mode until I got used to the throttle, which has the traction control, anti-wheelie, and ABS at the highest settings. It also takes 20hp of from the top end. It's almost impossible to mess up using then rain-mode even if you want to. After that, I put it to street-mode. Now I have 2.500 kilometers on it and feel very comfortable riding it, slow-speed maneuvers, highway, twisties, traffic, etc. Later on, I will put it to sport-mode. If you go through the modes and grow on it, it's very manageable, which is how you are supposed to start on it. Obviously if Ymmie would read the manual he would know that. For example, the R doesn't have a race mode, but only sport. It does have day-running lights which these diamond looking things, visible inside the headlights. You should certainly test a bike before you make a decision and not decide based on some else's opinion. Don't take me wrong, it's a great fun-channel that I have a hoot watching, but it's still an opinion. Plus, in the future when reviewing a bike please read the manual. To be honest I am not even convinced that the R1 doesn't have a fuel gauge. Who knows maybe he skipped the manual again. Just some (rather blunt) criticism, so he can further improve the content: Don't get lazy on the manual! :P
I actually opted for this instead of a turbobusa for my first bike, my brother had a Harley street 750 for his first bike, and it just felt like a torque monster to me, I rode an mt 03 in the msf course, went and rode this and it’s VERY similar in size and weight and felt comfortable to me, and I had something to grow into, I feel like I’ve learned a lot
Did he really say that a newbie shouldn't have traction control and rider modes? Literally every other blog about new riders say these are irreplaceable for new rider safety. Put it in rain, and trust your ABS and traction control.
I went from a 2004 Yamaha XT225 dual sport bike that I rode for about a year to a 2013 Triumph Street Triple, and that transition was amazing and gave me so much more respect for what the street triple can offer, even if it is a 2013. I totally agree though, starting out with a street triple is a bad idea because learning the fundamentals of riding on something with that much power would've definitely left me in a ditch on multiple occasions. Nevertheless, the street triple is a fantastic bike that will cost you an arm and a leg for maintenance, and both arms and legs when you try to fix it yourself and inevitably screw it up.
The Street Triple RS was my 3rd bike (EU motorcycle rider), I know I couldn't have comfortably rode it as my second, and especially not if it were my first bike. I'm glad I went 125>310>675.
Depends on the definition of “beginner”. Is that the skill level and knowledge to ride responsibly until you get use to the power? Anyone going from a 300cc 40hp to a 800cc (ish) 100+ will not be prepared for the power increase. You ride it and ease into it by managing the safety device between your head and your wrist.
I’m taking one for a test drive here in New Zealand this weekend. I have an R3 currently. The street triple are learner restricted here with a 660cc motor at 55hp. (Compared to my R3s 45hp) I’m still on learners. Once you have a full bike license the dealership will de restrict the bike. Which ends up with 95-98hp. Still less than the 675 108hp obviously. But it’s a massive incentive to buy, Being able to have your forever bike early in our licensing journey, to then be unleashed once you are a better rider.
Getting one of these today after 3 years on the MT07. 😁 think I’m sensible enough for this bike now . Took one out for a test ride and it is another level. Super smooth and handled like it was on rails compared to my MT
Did my Direct Access (UK) on a SV650 and a week later I bought an 09 Honda CB1000R. I've never looked back I love it and it's so nimble for a big bike!
Rubbish. I rode a cb125 for 2 days then straight onto my street triple, torque yes, fast yes, uncontrollable absolutely not, so glad I bought a street tripple, they sound great and look fantastic.
That cold start still sounds just like the '03. My dad is 74, dying of cancer and still rides his '03 speed triple 990 tuned up putting out 1200cc equivalent to the doctor, he's a G. When he first got it in 2007 for $3k he regularly accidentally popped wheelies as his previous bike was a '76 shovelhead he rode up until 1985 and got rid of as he had three young boys to raise. I Rode his Triumph once or twice recently after not having ridden for a couple years, and hotdog, it is not for beginners, or if you haven't ridden in a long time. Anywho solid bike he's had little to no problems with over almost 20 yrs.
my first bike was a 2001 sprint RS 955cc . It was perfectly fine and my second bike is my 2012 street triple. i love it and think its perfect for beginners! wrist control is important.
oh man i didnt realise till you own a sport (got a 2017 cbr1000rr) how painful it is to comute on it, and a friend of mine let rode his 2020 triump street triple rs and im in love 🥰 that bike was awesome and comfortable. im trading the fireblade for it 😎👍🏼
The only beginner riders are learner riders. Pass your test and just buy the bike you want don't let anyone tell you different! My first bike on passing my test was a 1200 then 650 .. 1300.. 675.. 765. They where twins, triples, cruisers and sports, some heavy some light but all fast. They all work the same as a 125 and are shit in corners and the wet, that's all you need to know.
Black 2017 speed triple 1050s as a first bike for $10,500 with zero miles. Never had a problem with the power, easy to control, never dropped it. Still love it.
Had a 2010 Street Triple as a first bike, and I've gotta say you aren't wrong. If you're the cautious type like I am, and have riding experience, it is a great pick... BUT I've seen people hop on smaller bikes and immediately lose control because they expect less.
Nah bro. If you can start on the holy grail of middleweight starter bikes, fz/mt07, you can start on a 675 street triple. It's just that good. They actually pull identical numbers up to 8k rpm. It's true, compare the dyno sheets of the two. I'm using cycleworld's dyno sheets for the sake of comparison. But yammiepubes is talking about the 765. +5hp throughout the rev band up to 7k rpm and 7lb more peak torque. If you can be a civilized adult and not wring the bike out at every opportunity, you'll be ok. What I can't recommend is the fz/mt09s. Those things are peaky deathtraps but I'm just an internet guy, so who cares about my recommendations lol.
Damn! Guess I shouldn’t of bought a Street Triple RS after of having a Duke 390 for 2 months. Though I’ve put about 1600 miles on it since October and have loved every single mile! I did start in Rain and have slowly graduated through the rider modes. Still haven’t put it in Track. Usually ride in road and sport.
First bike Honda CBR 500. 2nd bike 2 years later Triumph 765 R Street Triple. And yes was scared of power output for first week but fine pretty quickly.
im a semi-experimented rider and i like what you said about understanding why its amazing by starting small and getting slowly to your dream bike, i did that and its a beautiful journy
Disagree with your rider mode statement. Unpopular opinion but I think this or z900 would be an great bike because of the rider modes. You learn on a low power mode and then once you feel better move to full. My first bike was a 1200 Harley after 3 months moved to a 2020 z900 and I learned to throw my knee down on the Harley.
I'm confused about the comment about braking. No brakes give you more stopping power, they just give you more control over your stopping power... What do you mean? Please explain more for me
2016 rx daytona first bike love it but throttle control is key 3weeks into riding sunday i thought i made a mistake the first few days, but now i regret nothing
This is why in Australia we have power restrictions for new bike riders for 3 years. They're quite generous so you're allowed to ride from 260-660cc bike with up to 150kw/tonne so the triumph is definitely not approved. There are also a bunch of 250cc race bikes that are restricted too. I bought a Kawasaki Z400 which has a bit more oomf than the 300 I tried and so far has enough power for me. It's faster than any car I've ever owned and I've had a few jdm turbo cars.
thats perfect, we need those restrictions here in US imo. thing about govt restrictions though, is they keep making things more restrictive, but yours as they are, seem fair & reasonable.
I started on a 2018 triumph street triple rs, and I couldn't agree more with Yammie. I have lots of experience on two wheels, and felt very comfortable on the Striple, but it's a lot of power for a new rider
@@Zazizzlicious just gotta be smart. Yammie is not wrong but it also depends on the individual. I wouldn't promote starting on a 600cc+ but i did it. No prior experience, just research.
Hey Yammie, not completly agree with you on this. I bought a STR 675 about 3/4 years back as my first bike. Also I would like to comment that most people don't buy a brand spanking new shiny bike but a nice already driven in one. My 675 was €7000 (and yes I've got a bit more spending money ) The reason for me to choose the STR was indeed the soundtrack but also the nice mid range power. And it had ABS. I really recommend to learn to brake without ABS but it is nice to know it has ABS. I tried 2 cylinders but those that I tried only had good power when you put it into the 9.000 rpm range.
Got a 2008 street triple with the 675 in it as my first bike a few weeks ago and it is definitely alotttttt of bike for a beginner, I’m having to go really easy on it learning
I did not “go back” ;) started electric cause it’s equal to 125 cc and could ride it here with my car license, got my motorcycle licence in 2019 and bought an ICE. The zero was awesome and I will eventually get another electric one, really wanna testride the new zero Sr/s !!
I just bought this bike well the RS its my first naked bike. I took a course early this year and I had been working all year to buy this bike. And of course I will mod it with the safety kits. Soon I hope I can make videos of this bike, first time i saw this bike, I told myself "I'm getting one the of those.". It may be expensive but hell I'm sure I'm gonna enjoy riding it from home to work and weekends. Originally planned to buy the MT-07 But decided to go all out.
I'm a late starter in his 30s and i rode these models: Honda Hornet (600) , BMW CS650, BMW GS700, yamaha MT07 Moto Cage.... Fear is always on board.. honestly spoken. I'm looking forward to buy a CB500.
My first bike was a Triumph bobber. I loved it and got used to it. But looking back I was an idiot for getting a 1200 with a bunch of low end torque. I spent more time trying not to die than getting good at riding. I am there now but I believe I would of got there faster had I had a smaller bike for 6 months first.
First bike was 2012 street triple R. Took it slow until I mastered basics. Great bike for just about everything except 3+ hr highway rides. And that had more to do with my flat ass.
I am from the UK and I was riding a Honda cbf 125 for a year and I'm wanting to get this bike for my second bike, I know it is a big jump but I think I'm ready and my only worry is being able to man handle it and control it due to me being short (5ft3)
I'm planning on getting my A - license in june and have recently bought the A2 Triple. Hope to be riding it for a long time after I have my license and my driving supervisor loves that Triumph sound.
It's actually limited to 47.6 hp with the A2 restrictions on it for the young beginners. If you have a full A license it doesn't make sense to go for the 95 hp S option over the R/RS, the difference is too small.
@@tomassandstrom6445 Be careful on that bike mate. Even the restricted A2 variation has some serious pull. Go fast when its safe and work on your road positioning when you cant go fast.
Yes it has some serious pull I can tell. But I am trying to throttel well and be a responsible rider. I got it from a respective dealer for a good price so I figured it would be a nice bike to own for street use But wont be to good on track If I wanted that.
@@RutgerMulder to be suitable for the A2 license, it has to be limited at 35kW (47,5hp) and it has to come from factory at most with 70kW (95hp). That said, this is not a good beginer bike and does not fulfil the A2 license requirements. At least, not in Europe.
Honestly I’m in a weird place here. I’ve been able to ride bikes for 7-8 years and have used other peoples bike for various stints but never owned one. Now I’m planning to buy the ST3 directly instead of going thru intermediaries, and yes I’m scared, I’m not the most amazing rider, but on the other hand I know I’m not a dumbass either. I’ll take my time and get used to it (or so I’ve convinced myself 😅).
i have a Kawasaki Z650 right now. It is my first bike and i've been riding it for two years. Now i want to upgrade to a bigger bike. What should i get? I'm thinking about buying one of these: 2022 Triumph Street Triple R 2020 Suzuki GSX-S1000 2022 Kawasaki Z900
I have respect, not fear. Also iam riding a 125cc bike, its perfect for training :-). I ride Bicycle since decades, i always drive ob the street, and its normal to be the little one between lots of four wheeled steel.
If I was a newbie and we didn't have power restrictions and blessed we do in Australia I would of got this . Thank God I didn't. The lessons I learnt would of been fatal on a fast responsive light motorbike.
Chat shit, get banged. Brilliant beginner bike, power delivery is smoother than butter. Power is where is needed & can be used any gear. Pulls solid through all the range. Only a fool would ignore this as a beginner. It’s clutch ✌🏼
What if it's not my first motorcycle, but my first non-cruiser? I started on a Yamaha 650 cruiser, then had a Suzuki C50, and last (several years ago now) had a Kawaski Vulcan Mean Streak 1600.
Some of y'all don't understand power and skill are learnable, accidents aren't. Having said that, if you hit a little pot hole on the road going "fast" with a 300-400cc you are more likely to recover, but if you hit a pot hole with a 600cc-litre that little wrist twist grip can yank you forward and cause panic.
in discussions now with a guy to purchase a 2013 Street Triple as my first Street bike... purchase price is 4k... this is now a beginner bike... will come back and update if i get it still need to go sit on it and make sure it feels good to me... but the style of bike is incredible... Yammie Noob... keyword here is NOOB... why take advice from a self proclaimed NOOB...
1st gen fz-09...worst beginner bike...EVER! The throttle is an on/off switch. The mid-range is violent. First and second gear, sometimes third, will wheelie on you if you accidently blip the throttle. It is a terrifying machine if you are a beginner rider and an intimidating machine if you are an intermediate rider.
Here in France and other lications there is an A2 licence version limited electonically until the rider has 2 years experience. Even then my insurance quote waa 2000 euros (bike costs 8000). I bought a restricted ducati scrambler 800 instead and that is fun but the throttle is less beginner friendly than the triple!! Weird!