The struggle of finding the perfect dumbphone

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im aware that there's bigger problems then not being able to find the right dumbphone but I wanted to talk about why I can't find a phone that works for me
mainly any phone I've decided I've wanted I've realised is unavailable or out of stock :(
thank you for watching!
-Lio
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@katzuy5093 10 месяцев назад

As a 31 year old I must say that I'm quite happy that I wasn't in this situation during my teenage years. Now I'm also struggling with phone and social media addiction and I cannot imagine how horrible it is to be influenced by this in the child- or teenagehood.

@sergeantsilly5239 10 месяцев назад

I´m 25 now, bought my first smartphone with my own money at 15 years old and right now i find it very difficult to not grab my phone every few seconds. Oftentimes when i ride the train, I stare at it just to seem inconspicious to the next person that moves their head up for a second

@bobikbobikowy5458 10 месяцев назад

@@sergeantsilly5239i noticed many people do this sitting in train/bus. If you look at them they run with their eyes into their smartphone 😂 especially girls do this

@junimeme5626 10 месяцев назад

@@sergeantsilly5239 You should train yourself to be by your own. I think there's a lot to gain from that. I've realized what a massive pacifier my phone had turned into when exposed to any social discomfort so I decided to reject those unhealthy thoughts immediately. Now I only use my phone to listen to music when outside, but I've made a rule to only use it for important things otherwise it feels "rude" to people around me. Plus, using it usually gives you horrible posture which makes for very unflattering demeanor.

@hyuyu3799 10 месяцев назад

I don’t think this is about phone addiction We genuinely just want a practical dumbphone. Most of gen-z use our phone for three things: listening to music, contacting eachother and checking the time Lmao

@confounded_feline 10 месяцев назад

Same age man, absolutely. I often wonder about this myself. Used my phone plenty when I was 15-18 or so. It was all about being an mp3 player with you and your mates, texting and taking pics of teenage antics for me. Simple and essential, nothing else to pull your mind 20 different ways.

@briantran3791 5 месяцев назад

I remember everyone having a regular phone in the 2000 and everyone never took it out , unless there was a call. People were so into talking to each other .

@RetroreviewsPlus 2 месяца назад

Smartphones Changed the world and it wasn't for the better

@elishateegardin Год назад

I wish more companies would create more dumb phones. They could even be targeted towards teens, and I'd buy one. I'd prefer a slider keyboard phone over a smartphone anyday! And I grew up on the old slider and flip phones.

@boboboy8189 11 месяцев назад

What i need is WhatsApp in dumbPhone. Sadly the only one that support is kai OS version 2.5 which is slow and full of bugs. The latest kaios 3.1 doesn't support WhatsApp.

@dJ.kNiGhT23 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I remember having 3 phones like that I believe it was 2004 or 2005 that I had those I had Virgin Mobile those were the good days cool simple phones we didn't need all the garbage nowadays smartphones have and they require from us not cool not acceptable at all.

@thespacemanfil 10 месяцев назад

You can't sell data from a dumb phone. Phones have become addictive to generate more profit.

@m_rocka 10 месяцев назад

@@thespacemanfil Bingo.

@topophil 10 месяцев назад

Smartphones exist not for your convenience, but for the convenience of people who exploit you through them. That's why there aren't many alternatives (no good ones anyway).

@wack... 10 месяцев назад

just wanted to say the wind in the background is so beautiful. It moves in a fantastic way. it sounds like the perfect wind that could exist sonically, its what you would expect in a cartoon or film

@ellie6049 4 месяца назад

Your comment is so strangely beautiful… I can’t explain it

@wisdomcries Год назад

I feel the exact same, addiction is not the only reason I don't like using a smartphone. I don't like using one even for everyday things, like calls and text, or for utilities. It doesn't look like a phone, it is just a boring black rectangle and frankly to me it looks like an entertainment/consumption device. Let's be real here, what do we use our phones the most for? 5% of it, yes, that is calls and texts, and maybe calendar or notes, but the other 95% is entertainment and consumption of media.

@hamingnu6610 11 месяцев назад

Definitely. It's hard to capture that feeling, but using the description "energy-sucking" or as an "addiction" really gets it right. We keep using it, we keep justifying our usage for it (and it doesn't help that most systems that revolve around middle-to-upper class lifestyles in middle to high-income countries are turning to total smartphone dependency), yet a lot of us feel lethargic after having used it. It's like if we went back to the 1920s and saw -co**aine- being shoved down our throats every morning like some sort of multivitamin (exaggeration, but nonetheless you get the point).

@UrOpinionsSucc 11 месяцев назад

I use my phone for music and youtube most of the time, thank god i have not lost my intelligence, i'm still as smart and aware.

@babylon7311 10 месяцев назад

plus if you have a laptop you can use that for all your work and just have a normal phone

@babylon7311 10 месяцев назад

@@UrOpinionsSuccget an mp 3 player

@batmanatkinson1188 10 месяцев назад

A 100 dollar smartphone that doesn't have a crap CPU and that doesn't lag is enough for everybody, let's be honest. Pro iPhones, if you don't shoot many photos, are just luxury devices and consume too much of your time. We spend THOUSANDS of dollars to waste our times. It's just like fast food and not any cheap fast food, it's artisanal fast food.

@proximacentaur1654 10 месяцев назад

"Compromise or customize" is a pretty good summation of the choices. A phone that found the balance would be great.

@SatongiFilms 10 месяцев назад

bro she literally is trying to explain that you're not gonna find that balance. you want dumb phone? then give up app and internet dependent lifestyle, thats the choice you have to make.

@JorgeMartin-ft6pt Год назад

The way you talk, your non-verbal expressions, and all the thoughts you have about the social media apps and the industry of mobile phones seems vert honest. I hope you, me, and all the people here someday can quit this f* addiction

@theliopleurodon Год назад

Thank you so much. I hope so too, it's really ruining society and especially young teens and even children are being given phones now and it's just ruining their brains :(

@JorgeMartin-ft6pt Год назад

I totally agree. If it helps, I had the same problem: it’s impossible to find the perfect dumbphone, so i just sell my smartphone and I rescued my old iphone 6s, which is a small phone that gives me the possibility to uninstall a lot of pre-installed applications and use it as a dumbphone. Like I can pay w the phone, I can use whatsapp, gmail. I also turned the phone in black and white all time,. Maybe it works for you taking an small phone (iphone6s is really cheap right now)

@danteerskine7678 Год назад

@@theliopleurodonthat's the biggest problem with dumbphones, they simply cannot replace smartphones. I've seen Kai Os phones costing slightly more than android go phones and due to their terrible battery life, dumb phones take an L on this one. On the most basic smartphone, you get. 1. Screenshot and Screen recording with high quality internal sound 2. Massive on board storage from 32gb to 256 gb expandable with micro SD card 3. Both micro USB and USB C support OTG 4. Wider screen 5. Notification shade with easy controls 6. Massive internal battery 7. Better connectivity 8. Nearby share Feature phones are simply unusable in 2023, unless you use both smartphones and feature phones

@dhruvshukla2389 11 месяцев назад

@@danteerskine7678For these same reasons, people r buying flip phones all over the world 🤦. Being hyper-connected is ruining us. Taking screenshots aren't necessary. Storing up data can be done by using a flash drive or something. Flip phones = Less dopamine, more freedom

@editsbyszn 11 месяцев назад

Was about to say the same thing

@kevinharrigan2727 Месяц назад

If they made more dumb phones with an E Ink display or a physical QWERTY Blackberry style keyboard with a music app it would be perfection. A combination of E Ink with QWERTY keyboard would be so fuckin good.

@allanreynolds5519 10 месяцев назад

The problem i have at looking at dumbphones of today is they mostly have really really poor cameras. I don't know why this has to be the case, as the last "feature" phone i got back in 2010 had a really amazing camera on it. It was one of those Sony-Ericsson phones.

@apisDei Год назад

I love your style of creating vids. Takes me back to the beginnings of RU-vid. Those were the good old days.

@Mynameistux 10 месяцев назад

This feels like a video from the distant past, I love it so much.

@mc4ndr3 7 месяцев назад

The cloud integrations we have come to depend on, such as syncing calendars, todo lists, and caching music from streaming services locally, break down on any environment other than the iPhone / Android duopoly.

@aodhancollins Год назад

it’s surprising to me how few qwerty dumbphones there are. most communication these days is text so it makes more sense to me to have a qwerty style keyboard and essentially make a dumber blackberry.

@dominikablackrose1364 8 месяцев назад

This is why we need the sidekick back

@aodhancollins 8 месяцев назад

@@dominikablackrose1364 litch!!!!!

@maremike2691 3 месяца назад

If you need a qwerty keyboard, pop out your laptop with an Android VM. However, you will get used to typing with T9, its not as bad. Yes time consuming, but if youre taking the train or waiting for an appointment might aswell text someone. But a qwerty dumbphone wouldnt be a bad idea. Though unihertz are making pretty nice qwerty smartphones

@RetroreviewsPlus 2 месяца назад

I really throw people for a loop when I say no you can't text me it's a house phone 😎

@Yourfriendinendtimes Месяц назад

@@RetroreviewsPlus This is why I want to buy land lol

@rorz999 4 месяца назад

You should def try the Nokia 800 Tough. Built like a tank, has Whatsapp, a basic version of Maps. They keypad is rubberised and sturdy. I found one easily enough (I'm in UK too)

@saxonhigdon116 2 месяца назад

Your agm 7 tick tock rant actually just saved me alot of trouble. I feel the same way, Thank you

@MandrakeDCR Год назад

I ended up going with the CAT s22 Flip. It's not an actual dumb phone, but it's an old-style flip phone. It runs Android, touch screen, I can use all my apps for work if needed in a crunch, but the screen is too small to doom-scroll, trying to use a keyboard on the screen, even with swype is almost impossible, using a T9 keyboard works great for text messaging and notes, but not great for browser logins and such. So, I have found it to be an excellent bridge that has gotten me completely axed from my old, bad habbits. I can't believe how much time in the day it saves me. Even people at work - EVERYTHING is done through Teams (chat) and such. At first they were upset by it, then teased me about my 'old' phone, but now they just call me through the app if they really need me for something. So, especially for someone who needs a phone for work as well, I think something like the s22 is a great 'bridge phone' if not a good solution. Plus, if you're into chat and radio apps like Zello, EchoLink, Teamspeak, etc. - it has a PTT button built in :)

@redgeallen8867 11 месяцев назад

Do you trust it with OTP codes?

@clanker3967 11 месяцев назад

I really didn't like the Cat S22 personally. I have it but it's wayyyyy to clunky and it feels like a work phone.

@MandrakeDCR 11 месяцев назад

@@redgeallen8867 Yes. We have to use a security app called DUO where I work. Gotta get OTP for standard logins for security. Works great.

@MandrakeDCR 11 месяцев назад

@@clanker3967 Oh yeah, it's a bit of a brick. I love it, but I also work in the field so I love the ruggedness of it so... It's not for everyone, but it is a solid phone that works without any locks or hangs. Whatever floats your boat. :)

@clanker3967 11 месяцев назад

@@MandrakeDCR Yeah of course! And just saw what i typed i meant that it feels way too much like a work phone. But that's ofc it's purpose haha it's a Cat phone after all. But yeah each to their own!

@hummingbird1375 10 месяцев назад

This was randomly in my recommendations, and even though I'm not actively looking for a dumbphone, I found this super interesting. I laughed when you said "I refuse to have a phone that looks like a banana" and I had to laugh even more when I looked up the phone. XD Honestly, I relate to this so much, though. Modern technology really is a blessing and a curse. It's literally designed to make you addicted to it, which is so gruesome if you think about it. I might get one eventually, because I notice how much time I waste on my phone doing nothing. It's like you said, you feel yourself getting sucked into it and it feels really shitty sometimes.

@bjooooooooooooork Год назад

i've also been having this struggle. social media takes up too much of my time than i'd like. i feel like most of my anxiety stems from my presence on social media as well. good luck in finding the dumbphone that works for you !!

@Kristian179 7 месяцев назад

what a dumb phone is called a dumb phone for a reason, all it needs is a calculator, call & text, that's it

@ancalagon0216 Год назад

I loved using my Nokia 2780 flip. I don’t recall ever having any issues with the keyboard. I’ve experimented with the Light Phone II and am experimenting with the Unihertz Jelly 2e as well. Even though the Jelly 2e is actually a fully functional smartphone, it’s extremely small and because of it’s size it naturally doesn’t make you want to overuse it. I got it for it’s GPS cause the other phones GPS are so-so and I haven’t gotten a seperate car GPS sustem just yet. I don’t have any unnecessary apps on the Jelly 2e, so in many ways to me it functions the same as a feature/dumbphone does. Only my bank app, a non-streaming music player app, and a basic journal app. That’s it. So far, I’m liking it more than the other two. And if I am not mistaken, I believe they sell an international version. Try checking that one out. Also, have you seen Jose Brinones channel? He talks review of everything feature/dumbphone and even has a website where you can search up the perfect dumbphone for you by filtering your search based on features you are looking for in a phone. Because if all else fails, perhaps a phone that works best for you will eventually come out in the near future.

@theliopleurodon Год назад

I have! I'm a huge fan of Jose's content, I've watched loads of his videos and spent lots if time looking through his website too. I've looked at using the jelly 2e before and haven't decided yet if I want to switch my smartphone to a smaller smartphone, but I am definitely considering it!

@GWGMJ Год назад

Anything with Kai OS is a bad idea. Slow and very low security, and not really a dumb phone. It's a low security flip smart phone.

@sirerdnussbutta2980 Год назад

I am at the same point...I have/had a google pixel 4a which fell into a pot of boiling noodles(long story). So I had to search for a new one. It happend in March and I still cant find a new phone because the screens are way to big and if it has a small screen its way too expensive (I dont want to spend over 300€ on a phone). So as I also wanted to reduce my screen time I did a loooot of research and the only possible "dumbphone" which isnt too dumb is the Jelly Star 3. The small screen will reduce the screen time enormusly and you can make this small smartphone through settings to a dumb phone with workjing WhatsApp, GoogleMaps and Spotify, Public transport app, banking. BUT: I really like data secruity and Unihertz doesnt really update the system. So I feel kinda unsafe using such a phone...and it looks really ugly. But it has the best options for being a dumb phone and fitting in your pockets easily. *my pixel 4a still works but I dont have a phone or internet connection...only Wifi. That made me realise that I feel much better being outside and not thinking or checking about new messages. *It sucks is that I need a smartphone for mobile banking (paypal etc.) and public transport...so even if I use a dumbphone I still need a smartphone to do the other stuff.

@BrianBull 11 месяцев назад

Light Phone is the ultimate solution

@GWGMJ 11 месяцев назад

@@BrianBull surprise the battery life is bad, even though it's an e-ink phone.

@Bored_and_Brilliant Год назад

I had the same problems and had bought a few phones in the beginning which were older models which is not bad in itself but the voice quality left a lot to be desired so I started looking again and finally found one. MP02, the price was the first thing that put me off, but I am very satisfied with the function and especially the voice quality.

@Tiger-kq5rm Год назад

but no whatsapp

@SirDemonLord 6 месяцев назад

@@Tiger-kq5rmI'd call that a benefit, but that's just my opinion. WhatsApp and Messenger, both owned by Facebook/Meta are the things that do not respect a person's right to privacy, and they also struggle to understand what European Union regulations are for. As for Punkt MP02, it has a Signal client called Pigeon. Signal is the most private & secure messaging solution, along with Telegram. A few years ago I even had WhatsApp actively using my microphone when my smartphone was idle - and this was during my work with various businesses. That day was an eye opener that not only Facebook sneakily collects bits of data about your private life, but they also may catch some company secrets just like that. Of course since that time, privacy controls in mobile operating systems grew to be better and more transparent, and hopefully the awareness of people is better.

@SawyerC7 11 месяцев назад

Something I've done recently due to getting an iphone 12 pro when my parents upgrading and having features that allow me to contact them and air tag e.x.t is the driving force in not getting a dumbphone but instead iv'e put on very strict screentime limits Another tip / tactic that I see very little of but would recommend immensely is using the 'colour filter' to put the phone in black and white or just remove most of the colour making it looked washed out and a lot less bright. Works better than you may expect. Yet another tip for modern smartphones is to turn off tapping or lifting up to wake up and instead make it so you have to press the power button. - sounds silly but works in practice

@batmanatkinson1188 10 месяцев назад

Smartphones, especially iPhones with all their iOS eye candy, are made to be addictive. I didn't spend as much time on the Android as I have done on the iPhone because of that

@wiegraf9009 10 месяцев назад

The color filter definitely helps yeah

@tissuepaper9962 10 месяцев назад

I hate "tap to wake" and "lift to wake". There's a button for a reason!

@rossgeography Год назад

a quick fix for those wanting to make their phone less addictive is to make the screen monochrome using accessibility settings. iOS also has a feature for focused / do not disturb where it can filter out notifications / calls from all but designated contacts - a smart phone dumbed down and/or smaller seems to be the only realistic option right now..

@alternatea4591 11 месяцев назад

I did this for a week and didn't notice the difference in my mental state, then left color on for a day out of carelessness. A few hours later I was wondering why I was so lethargic and overstimulated. I gotta say, greyscale is incredible. All the distracting colors on my phone give me such bad executive dysfunction.

@batmanatkinson1188 10 месяцев назад

Also remove transparency and animations, because they are eye candy also. Switch to dark mode and a black background too. Android is less addictive than the iOS for this exact reason

@Stop-All-War 8 месяцев назад

Switched my Phone to black&white screen & much better

@Michael-Archonaeus 2 месяца назад

Idk why people call this a dumb phone. In my day we just called this a cell phone. Also never let perfect be the enemy of good.

@scpjij Год назад

I remember how easy it was to text on feature phones "back when" and i don't understand why we can't have *that* now. Literally a good keyboard with nice feedback and T9. We used to be able to text without looking at the phone at all!

@Divus90 10 месяцев назад

I stuck with Nokia 230. I think it's concentration issues similar to ADHD made me completely scared of having a phone with so many things to do on a whim. And for the most part it's fine, since I'm not traveling much, and when I do I even prepared paper maps in the past to know where to go abroad. But every year it get more and more difficult to have a phone without Android / IOS, especially working in tech. There's a huge push to 2-factor auth with apps not available on Nokias KaiOS (available only on Android / IOS), so that leaves me to be the only person in the company to expect sms to work in 2-factor auth. I'm in Poland, so some of the dumb phones you've mentioned at the end are available here, but I would rather get CAT 22 flip, which obviously is not available in Europe at all. And it seems like CAT 22 flip is the only phone with Android, which is actively preventing you from using too much apps.

@thebristolbruiser Год назад

I was going through this dilemma back in 2017. I ended up getting the Nokia 3310 remake, but I was never very happy with it. After that I got a Lumia smartphone, which was around the time when Windows Phone was being discontinued. Using that made me realise that I actually like the smartphone form factor and my issues were with the apps. Now I use an iPhone 4s that I replaced the battery and installed iOS 6 on. At least I will be using it until next year when 3G gets turned off in Australia.

@luvuberrymuch49 10 месяцев назад

You can always get a 12 mini once 3g is gone!

@ehname1 3 месяца назад

I'm willing to compromise on having access to things like music and maps, but the biggest roadblock for me has just been terrible operating systems

@nandorkollo1746 9 месяцев назад

8:50 I feel the same. I'm currently using the Nokia 6300 4G for more than a year and it become really slow and there are android aps I need (like banking, messaging and maybe Spotify) and I'm currently searching to buy a new phone what can full fit my needs and I found the Unihertz Jelly Star what is a smartphone but with a 3 inch display. So It will have everything that I need but too small to take my attention and suck my brain all day. It is a bit expensive but I hope it will keep working for at least 1 but hopefully like 2 years. I don't used it till now so I cant recommend but just wanted to share this option. If I decide to buy it and use it for a wile I will come back and write a review about. Thanks for the video, I like that there are others who are realizing the down sides of the smartphones and they do something against.

@nandorkollo1746 8 месяцев назад

Okay, I'm back. I had the Unihertz Jelly Star phone for 2 weeks and it is awesome. I can absolutely do anything I need and want. I was afraid that writing will be hard but actually I can swipe (not only) and it is really accurate, fast and fun. I can even play games with friends (any game and with high quality with no lag). BUT the best part is that while I have fun playing games, watching reels or doing anything you want to do on a smart phone after like a 30min you just lose the desire to play some more and you can just go and do some productive stuff. I recommend this phone for everyone who want less screen time and cant use a dumb phone because you need some aps for work or learning. But after all, If you dont NEED a smartphone, a dumb phone would be the best to change your life and reach your dreams.

@arnavaher2826 Год назад

I recently came across your channel and I'm in love. Never have I ever seen such a down to the earth person on this platform, contrasting to many other creators. Do never stop making this type of content, it's inspirational. Moreover, I'd like to add to anyone reading, buying a really old 4g phone that barely handles social media apps is a great way too. I'd suggest looking into the blackberry classic, its a 4g android in a classic blackberry design. Its barely handles modern apps so could be a good purchase.

@theliopleurodon Год назад

Thank you so much! This means a lot. I looked into getting a blackberry but I thought that they didn't make them anymore so I stopped thinking about getting one. Maybe I should look back into one as I still haven't purchased a new dumbphone

@arnavaher2826 Год назад

@@theliopleurodon there's a lot on ebay, not new ones. but hey, if they're increasing your productivity? why not?

@TheDissident Год назад

@@theliopleurodon I hate to say this but please don't get a BlackBerry. I bought a Classic 9 months ago, and while I do love it, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants a reliable phone. I only bought it because I love BlackBerry phones and physical keyboards. The batteries are old and can degrade quickly, you might get semi-scammed like I did and receive a version for a different region leaving you unable to make simples calls or texts in the entire continent, or you might actually get scammed and receive nothing at all.

@lukey333 Год назад

not sure abt the UK, but for the US anything running bbos (including the classic) will not work due to the lack of volte unfortunately; having 4g isn't enough for it to actually work as a phone now adays

@kongengorm3360 10 месяцев назад

And it will probably beat any dumbphone on the market today.

@SoothingBelle Год назад

I personally decided the Light Phone 2. Love the design, the e-ink display, zero distractions. However, I still get group texts, directions, podcasts, music, and such that I still need. c:

@Nicolas-cl1gq 11 месяцев назад

Can you use google maps??

@BrianBull 11 месяцев назад

@@Nicolas-cl1gq Yes it has maps

@CLK944 10 месяцев назад

@@Nicolas-cl1gq yeah its got navigation

@skies988 10 месяцев назад

I lucked the F out and my nokia 6300 has the old os with google assistant. Can text using text to speech. Apparently in the new OS google removed the feature bc company politics

@TheIntendedOutcome 11 месяцев назад

I use the Kyocera digno 3 902kc (Unsure if it works in the UK) and it's perfect outside of not having a 3.5mm headphone jack. On the 902/903kc, you can force install (called sideloading) WhatsApp and other 'dire' touch apps. Your preference isn't flip phones, though I feel like this is a good pick for people in your situation.

@yosuaindonesia 10 месяцев назад

I use kyocera kyf37 Gratina. Yeah the same typical Japanese keitai. Sadly it was broke when i finished my college and their android version only 5.1 and whatsapp will not supported by winter next year.

@l4k 7 месяцев назад

my perfect dumbphone is a phone that makes calls

@IchDuForeverExplorering 9 месяцев назад

people who grew up with smart phones cant find a perfect dumb phone, just being able to call someone and be able to get calls is the only thing a phone need to do, everything else isnt a dumbphone anymore

@mpg33 10 месяцев назад

The old Blackberry Curve's were the best dumbphone imo because they didn't really have any apps but still had a full keyboard for texting.

@danielsgrunge 11 месяцев назад

I use my Apple Watch as a “dumb phone” It works for me I just leave my iPhone at home and it’s perfect + the fact that you don’t need to carry a phone is sooooo nice

@claytonraithel 10 месяцев назад

Ditto! This has worked well for me

@danielsgrunge 10 месяцев назад

@@claytonraithelNice! It's refreshing!

@Exploshi 6 месяцев назад

they cant text or call though

@CaseyGordonHoward 7 месяцев назад

I know I'm a little late to this party, but I was just recently made aware of the Punkt MP02. It looks like a quality made device and has some cool looking features. I still need to do more research on it but I'm liking what I'm seeing of it so far.

@PlastiGomi 10 месяцев назад

having a dumb phone with any social media apps is baffling in how pointless and counter intuitive it is

@danieldevine 10 месяцев назад

apps being preinstalled and not being able to be uninstalled or at least being difficult to uninstall is usually because the company who owns the app is subsidising the cost of the phone - that used to be the case all the time back in the day on dumbphones - no way to uninstall some game or some carrier specific stuff that you'd never use .

@AbuSahlah Год назад

The perfect dumbphone must have :whatsapp, camera with qr code scanner, qwerty keypad, 4g/5g with hotspot sharing. Honestly if they make this the cheeky phone companies will overprice it. Tell us when you find one. We are waiting for your research results.

@theliopleurodon Год назад

At some point when you add lots of specifications it just becomes a smartphone. Qwerty phones don't really exist much anymore which is such a shame. The only think I can reccomend to you is the Titan Pocket but it's quite a pricey one

@AbuSahlah Год назад

@@theliopleurodon exactly i don’t need a smartphone. Titan pocket sways more towards a smartphone than a dumbone. I don’t like texting, i don’t take pictures. Its just if it wasn’t for work i may not even use WhatsApp either. So basically a phone you can call with do payments with in emergency and send voice notes to convey messages. I’m starting to become so frustrated that i hate my iPhone. It just feels like the phones are using you as opposed to the opposite.

@theliopleurodon Год назад

@@AbuSahlah That's exactly it! In Cal Newports book 'digital minimalism' he talks about YOU being the product. Especially when it comes to adverts, social media is there for people to advertise their brand and as a result lots of people who are scrolling see it and may possibly purchase from them. It's really just a huge marketplace. I also really hate using my smartphone, I feel like its using me more than I'm using it. If it wasnt for all my friends and family using whatapp then I wouldn't use it either

@AbuSahlah Год назад

@@theliopleurodon my teacher also gave examples from that book. I think limiting SM apps to just WhatsApp is fine. But trust me have you ever found a perfect phone? It doesn’t exist. Let alone a perfect dumbphone. The big tech companies wouldn’t allow it. People touching grass, living as in actually breathing under the trees with old school paper in their hands. Reading imagination of others while being detached with clout chasing world. Just few days ago when Twitter announced viewing limits to the tweets the whole world went crazy. They control us. From what we eat to what we think. Very few people realize the mess we are heading towards. Many of those souls I find commenting on your videos. Life has mysterious ways to unite like minded people.

@loyalty1631 Год назад

Don't know if on ur contries ye have em but here in Mexico there is the "xando x5" is a "oxxo phone" literaly it costs 20 dollars, havent used it tho but runs kaios, just forget about 5g

@SharpMaxwell 10 месяцев назад

why not just get an android flip phone, install those apps you needed, and then use a computer/rooting it to delete every other app?

@teabag5516 Месяц назад

I love this video so much because I literally am going through the same thing right now. It's crazy that people had this problem a year before and no one to this day has created a perfect dumb phone. I have a CAT S22 Flip atm. I don't hate the phone. It does its job. But like you said, it's not a dumb phone. It's definitely a smart phone... I'm really disappointed because I thought that it would help me spend less time on it; and it does compared to when I had an iPhone... but the scrolling on YT shorts still persists. I know it helps some people not be on it because of the small screen but I'm such an addict that the temptation is always there even on such a compact device. But personally I have never heard of the Nokia 8110. But when I looked it up I though it looked so cute!!!😂 I wouldn't even mind bringing a banana phone to college. at least its unique, dumb, and got style! The humiliation would be worth it. I'm totally contemplating purchasing that one atm.

@Ruben-GG 11 месяцев назад

It's so refreshing to see a young girl like yourself speak so rationally and thoughtfully. I wish you the best in Uni, were some of the best experiences I had thus far!

@Seth_M-T 4 месяца назад

I was thinking of getting the Nokia 6300 4G, but after watching your videos and seeing other reviews I think I'll get the Nokia 2720 Flip instead. The keypad is bigger and it doesn't seem to have the same issue with the texting. I have an iPod for my music/podcasts, and I have a decent camera, so I only really need the phone for WhatsApp. I love your videos by the way! Thank you for being so genuine.

@1000christian 8 месяцев назад

i just want a flip phone without the internet, google maps would be good but as long as i know the route im good

@christyguy59 10 месяцев назад

i've somehow resisted tiktok for years and years and i am so glad i did. i don't even have it, never have, and i hate it!

@die_lokki287 4 дня назад

I went on a way to dumbyfi my phone. I made text size smaller and colors dull. I disabled notifications and such. It made my experience really boring without work related apps, navigation and such. I also have a flip phone case, so I can actually cover screen when I am done with it. So, basically treat ur phone like a pda

@theliopleurodon 4 дня назад

@@die_lokki287 love these ideas

@53af00d 2 месяца назад

The modern world has moved past the dumb phone. I'm 38 and grew up with dumb phones, the reason you can't get everything you want is because dumb phones were just for making calls and texting. Back in the naughties we use to carry a phone for calls, a discman for music, a camera for pics, a game boy for gaming etc a desktop pc for internet messaging ie ICQ or MSN messenger. Maps was a print out off your computer or a street directory. The smart phone has replaced all those items. People today are quite lucky to have smart phones. Problem is they're just too good.

@Mico605 10 месяцев назад

To everyone who is addicted to their smartphone you need to seek professional help. Just the fact you cant decide which feature (dumb) phone you wanna buy to help you get off your smartphone, shows you really do need some assistance and there is no shame in seeking help. Smartphone addiction is just like any other addiction, you will not get off of it on your own, youre just throwing money and time away trying to find another phone to get away from your normal phone.

@japanesemale 11 месяцев назад

Ok. Great information. Will further seek a new phone. Goodbye.

@alid8646 11 месяцев назад

Nice to see a young person seeing how damaging smartphones are to people especially youngsters. I see all my nieces and nephews just addicted to their phones. I feel your pain trying to find that phone. I have an Emporia Touchsmart, its a flip phone, touch screen also option, has a camera and whatsapp and a browser. Its decent, just the battery life aint the best!

@muellerhans 10 месяцев назад

I think you specifically need to search for the term feature phone. Those are devices in a more traditional mobile phone factor that still feature modern tech like touchscreens and third party apps. The underlying system is often either KaiOS or Android. However, those devices are more popular in asia as far as I know. There is also an effort by peple to run Linux on some older phones in that form factor so they can be used for some modern things.

@IcomanSB 6 месяцев назад

The T9 keyboard not working properly is something that seems unexpected to me. Being that tech has been around for ages already, you'd think they'd have it working fine on those things.

@karidus6024 10 месяцев назад

This might be too late but worth a try. I have been using the Jelly 2 for about 6 months now. It is not a dumbphone but it is. This is due to its incredibly small 3inch screen. It has all the features of a regular smartphone but its size it what makes it dumb as event if I can download youtube, tiktok or instagram. Its so small that I have to fight myself to use it for more than 5 minutes. Also, the keyboard. It works fine. I hands are big enough to grab a volleyball with one hand but my fingers are slim, I have had no issue with typing on the phone. On a really boring day like waiting in line for something I spent max 30 minutes looking at the screen and the rest of the days about 10 minutes. The battery last me for 2 days on the use of just 10 minutes of screen time. It also has bluetooth so I can connect my earbuds and they work fine too. This phone is everything that I was looking for in a dumbphone. The price might fight you off though, but I was confident enough to keep this one and sell my old one and get some gains too.

@drew6567 Месяц назад

I feel the stress, im going back to a beeper, they still work

@unknownfromkashmir 4 месяца назад

Wow the struggle is real! Count me in.

@rushiljain9423 2 месяца назад

This woman is absolutely beautiful. On a side note, just ordered the Cat S22 here in Canada. I’m excited

@maisamabbas6872 7 месяцев назад

All the things you mentioned in the video are sooooo true and I hate that nobody is talking about it. I've been trying to find a perfect "dumb phone" for myself since January 2023. Every phone I find has at least a couple of compromises. Another thing you forgot to mention was the build quality. Why can't I find a dumb phone made of metal anymore?🤨

@sereneholsclaw 6 месяцев назад

Yes the scrolling aspect is what gets me. Sooo easy to just scroll scroll scroll. I’m tired of it

@komuritokisaki8301 4 месяца назад

It feels nostalgic. What I like on dumbphone is the battery life. I can play music and watch anime all day haha. I love Nokia type of model of phone help me away from social media back then.

@mypradasatthecleanerss 3 месяца назад

That’s so bonkers that a dumbphone comes preloaded with un-installable TikTok 😂😫. Great video

@canadianpsycho1867 2 месяца назад

im 21 and ive never had a phone plan. im canadian and my iphone se 3 is actually locked to an american carrier because i found a good deal at walmart and i live near the border so i went and bought one and wasnt even required to purchase a plan.

@KLiNoTweet 2 месяца назад

I recommend buing a smartphone and turn it into a degoogled dumbphone. Then you have at least the good keyboard and can use the signal app.

@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer 10 месяцев назад

"The manic pixie dream girl doesn’t exist" they said. Well, here she is, and she’s arguing about dumb phone 😍.

@theliopleurodon 10 месяцев назад

What is a manic pixie dream girl? haha

@yassirhassani9166 10 месяцев назад

well time to make the one we need

@dansimpson4854 10 месяцев назад

I know this video is a little old and there's a sea of comments, but you can get a CAT s22 in the UK, it's what I use!

@ameliarose893 4 месяца назад

Hi, not sure if you're still interested but Nokia 800 Tough is currently back in stock on HMD in the UK! I'm currently using a 2720 Flip I bought from Cex but thinking of switching over

@dorsetengineering 10 месяцев назад

Cat s22 is available from amazon UK. Mine shows up tomorrow... Another option for something with a decent keyboard/pad is a unihertz titan pocket. Basically a blackberry q10 clone in a rugged formfactor. The only reason I didn't stick with it was because the muscle memory from my blackberry 10 days meant I couldn't get used to the keyboard modifiers (shift, delete, tab) being on the top row.

@rolandcolavizza5368 10 месяцев назад

the problem is you dont want a dumb phone you want a dumber phone .

@RahulSalimon-hh7ip 11 месяцев назад

I was in the same place as you. I have hunted for this perfect dumb phone. Basically I wanted a dumb phone with WhatsApp and maps. There isn't one on my country. The second option is as you said is to make our smartphone 'dumb'. It's possible to an extent. But after sometime it will pull us into it and again we become more addicted to it. That's what happend to me. Still I wish to switch to a dumb phone. Just can't. And it's a shame I know.

@Josh-ek9pw 13 дней назад

I feel the same way as you. Ive come to the same conclusions as well. I have tried dumbing down my smartphone but after a few months I always get pulled in. I think ill give the Nokia you have a go

@theliopleurodon 13 дней назад

@@Josh-ek9pw hope it goes well for you!!

@nickc4087 6 месяцев назад

I go full old school like in the early 2000's. I use a PC as a hub. I download MP3's and make my own playlists, Print out recipes, directions, and even QR codes to avoid having to use an app for it.

@pixelgaming7261 2 месяца назад

8:58 I'm in a similar boat. My phone gives me a headache. I was thinking about the Nokia 235 4G until I realised it had no WhatsApp, which really is a dealbreaker for me.

@sebas13795 3 месяца назад

I personally want to buy a Blu Tank Flip, but I'm having trouble buying it from abroad. The good thing is that it runs on Android and is compatible with Android debug Bridge, so if I can learn that, I can greatly customize that phone. Finally, I can only mention that you are magnificently beautiful.

@Dave_Parrott Месяц назад

As a person who had a dumbphone back in high school (when they were still called cellphones) and who has gone back to using them for about 4 years now, it's REALLY sad to see how t9 typing and keypads have gotten so much worse. Like, each of the two flip phones I used to have lasted YEARS, and I texted a LOT more than I do now. They keypads on phones now last me about 6 months of light use (Cat S22 included. The Sonim SP3 keyboard lasted over a year, but it too became impossible to type on and for $300 it should last at least a little longer...) And t9 is... well on the Cat S22 I was able to install a t9 keyboard app that worked great, but especially on the cheap made-in-china phones, the t9 is insanely bad. They generally don't have words like "I" or "I'm". Y'know, pretty important words for sending a quick text.

@JS-ev4xc 11 месяцев назад

Customize a smartphone is the way to go. Some apps are so crucial like banking apps. Just avoid addictive social apps if possible then it will be quite alright.

@AvianYuen 7 месяцев назад

Currently in this situation. My chosen solution is to use a phone-sized eink android tablet (Boox Palma) as my phone. I tether it to my smartphone when I'm out and need data, and the smartphone just stays in my bag just to serve as a modem. This works for me because the low refresh rates and black/white screen on eink makes scroll apps unusable. There's also unlocked eink smartphones (for a bit more) that should work in the UK.

@paulmc6940 8 месяцев назад

I binned my phone altogether about 3 years ago, haven’t missed it at all

@next2normal 5 месяцев назад

I brought the cat s22 from ebay in usa and shipped to New Zealand,made sure i got the unlocked one,$170 nzd post and taxes

@kaanguelten 8 месяцев назад

Spotify, Bluetooth, WhatsApp, Google Maps is all I need.

@raven80wolfx2 10 месяцев назад

I had an lg slide phone in high school. I'm not sure about the model name. It had an awesome slide full size keyboard to text people. Light weight, just not sure if it has whatsapp. I think that is the deal breaker because they were meant to be text phones. You text, and you answer calls. I had that phone until 2017. It wasn't a flip phone. It slid to the side, showing the full keyboard. I hope you can get something like that. I hope you are able to focus on your studies while still being able to communicate with people. Look up text phones. Maybe you will have better luck.

@arcticradio 10 месяцев назад

Nokia 6320i, lasts 7 days and has FM radio when you attach the headphones. So small it can fit in any pocket. I still have mine and it still lasts a week or more!

@rafamegatube 7 месяцев назад

I had the same problem I'm my searching and I ended up getting back my old iPhone SE (1st gen, the small one) and uninstalling everything but maps, Spotify, Whatsapp and phone. I also made the screen black and white and I hope this helps me getting offline without losing navigation and music streaming (it's more like a feature phone than a dumb phone I guess). It's also very good to have a phone that actually fits in my pocket.

@patprop74 10 месяцев назад

I'm still using an LG400R i had it for the last 15 years it has no apps besides texting and its PERRRRRRFECT! if someone can't be bothered to call, I don't want to hear from them anyway.

@spikeart6360 11 месяцев назад

why noy build urself a raspberry pi running a de-googled os with a keyboard and a no touch screen

@repeatrepeatrepeat 10 месяцев назад

I have a "dumb" phone. It's called a iPhone 6. It has great battery life if you use it just for basics. Social media and majority of new apps can't be installed because of outdated iOS version. Most other apps drain the battery and heat up the phone but you can still use them in emergency like maps for example. It's slimmest phone that Apple made and is also very light. The perfect dumb phone.

@bluuone 9 месяцев назад

These days im struggling pick a small or mini android smartphone, which u can hold with one hand, not constantly slippin. my only criteria now is just cheap small noniphone smartphone. thanks for vids!

@LukeSeeleygamertagisV3XChintzy Месяц назад

I was about to buy the m7... I'm glad I didn't, the nokia 800 tough is available in the uk for £99 but I've heard they turn off randomly and never turn back on which is a little bit depressing to think about :(

@threadsoftime6771 8 месяцев назад

As person who grew up on t9 typing one of the ways that we could type so fast on the t9 style is the buttons had individual feel The nokia you have seems very seamless which would make hitting the actual component underneath the panel more difficult the buttons are all more solid on the older phone but unfortunately companys are phasing our 2/3g

@Kontekst 10 месяцев назад

what you are looking for is what we had with PDAs. barebone software, can access the internet but doesnt always has to, heavily customizable. you should look into custom ROMs

@milkman950 10 месяцев назад

i was thinking the same thing. i want to be able to use it as a perma phone replacement. emails are needed, and my music is needed. i dont need SM but i need internet acces and i dont want to even be ABLE to download social media.

@lisam5802 10 месяцев назад

I'd like this kind of thing too, but I am extremely into computers so having my phone as an external debug tool is a lifesaver sometims

@alex.g7317 10 месяцев назад

Tbh I was just thinking of having both a dumb phone and a smartphone. One for calling outside (because of it’s durability and it’s worthless so no one will steal it) and another for everything else.

@ShoeBum95 10 месяцев назад

Hope this is helpful: Lots of smartphones come with an ultra power saving mode where you can only run a handful of apps that you choose and everything else is disabled. I find that it is a great way to have a smart phone that I can turn dumb when I need to. I just have whatsapp, maps and google pay enabled and I'm good to go. In case I need other apps or if there's an emergency, I can exit the mode and I have a regular smartphone at my disposal. Hope this is of some use :)

@ShaferHart 9 месяцев назад

Not a good enough choice if you're addicted to social media and want to give it up you will slide back to smartphone mode and just waste your life away.

@realcartoongirl 8 месяцев назад

@@ShaferHartthats your problem not the phone issue

@pablomiret2911 5 месяцев назад

i forgot about this

@Revolutionary_War443ī 5 месяцев назад

I will go for a dumb phone that is from 2000s thru 2010s there the best like the BlackBerry Q10

@OHMYGORDNESS 10 месяцев назад

I am a computer engineering student and I think about this stuff a lot. Smartphone design, app design, addiction to phones/apps, and general philosophy of technology are all things I am drawn towards. I want to make something new that is considerate of the current state of things. What do you think about a phone that just doesnt have an app store? It would still have a web browser, so things like maps, messaging, music streaming could be accessible. However, this way the services are kind of "further away" than traditional apps are right now. Mobile social sites like tiktok tend to be more clunky and would be more of a chore to stay on while on mobile, but the essentials could still be accessible.

@guilherme_atanasov 10 месяцев назад

I quit Instagram and Facebook some months ago and do not regret it (I'm planning to create a professional Instagram only to advertise my business though). Sometimes i miss dumbphones. It's really sad to see people on their phones all day long. Cheers from Brazil!

@bebu4ever 7 месяцев назад

Why do they call it a dumb phone? it’s always been a keypad phone in my country and a lot of people still prefer using it

@TheEcholima07 9 месяцев назад

Honestly, if you’re wanting WhatsApp, Spotify and Google Maps you’re wanting a smartphone. You just have to resist the urge to download apps. Or by the lower spec Unihertz ones which have a small screen. A dumbphone is just calls and texts, maybe a one with just WhatsApp added on could be classed as one.

@jamsaltifyouwill 10 месяцев назад

haha this video speaks to me on a personal level. i had a nokia 3310 (the newer one) for a bit and i managed to get a lot out of it for what it was. i figured out how to put music on it and sideload some old java games and it did me wonders. it was mostly just an mp3 player to me, but that's all i really needed since i don't feel the need to get in touch with people unless it's for emergencies. that phone helped me become a whole lot more lenient with phone usage, and even on the iphone that i have now i'm using it in the same way, mostly for music. if anyone is struggling with their phone usage, my advice would be to turn all your notifications off, besides a few crucial contacts for calls and texts. notifications are annoying and serve no other purpose than to suck you in to an app to spend hours doomscrolling and just isn't needed. you need to be in control of your phone and not the other way round, and doing this, in my opinion, ia a great first step in achieving that. great video. i feel your pain fr but if i were to recommend any phone it would be that particular nokia.

@SinisterSkyler 9 месяцев назад

you can make it so an iPhone can only show and access specific apps. iOS 17 has a mode where you can lock it so you can only have specific apps e..g Camera, Safari, text, calls, whatsapp and nothing else. Would that not suffice? no social media, no appstore.