Nilesh Darunde very odd looking leverages. He’s locked out at the top of his knee caps ffs... it looks so weird.. ultra long legs and arms plus short torso I guess?
@@leftphilange69 He was born with a disability. Nearly half of his ribcage is missing, and he has kyphosis, scoliosis, and a host of other imbalances that come with it. Still pulled the world record.
Beethoven van Gogh good example of “no excuses”, but I’m sure someone will argue about advantages it gives him for less bone weight and easier lockout etc 🙄 I’ll have to look him up, thanks for the info 👌🏼
Beethoven van Gogh there was a powerlifter in the 132 class I believe had the nickname “the ant” who had extreme scoliosis as well and I believe was a record holder at one time?? His back is extremely crooked and oblong - it’s super impressive. Edit: oops I was thinking of Lamar gant, not Richard Hawthorne.
@@leftphilange69 Yeah, Richard Hawthorne. Lamar Grant also had severe scoliosis and pulled unholy amounts of weight. These guys are not advantaged, yeah maybe for pulling, but come on. They're succeeding against all odds, Stuart in particular. And I don't mean only his disabilities either, but his whole life story. Just look him up. Absolute mad lad of a man.
Yes he has a deformity, he has half a ribcage thus causing his spine to be a bit compressed. His arms and legs are correct length, its just his compressed spine causes his torso to be very short thus giving the illusion of long arms
Using a knee wrap doesn't really increase the weight you can lift, except it's a freaking huge wrap that takes half of your thigh down to your calf. What i get by wrapping my ligament is the confidence that it won't snap in half when I'm above 80% of my best, it's all about knee health. In a very deep squat, the hamstrings touch the calves and they push the ACL forward (i believe) and that brings a lot of knee problems. They are as necessary as wrist wraps, but they aren't as cheaty as elbow wraps.
@@Al.j.Vasquez knee wraps definitely increase the weight you can lift, and so do knee sleeves, but to a much lesser extent. there's a reason why wraps aren't allowed in raw powerlifting
This guy could make $1000s making lifting bets in bars lol imagine this guy telling people he deadlifts 600 pounds to a drunk dude. He could take your net worth on that bet and probably get like 10:1 odds if he played it coy lol
Sumo is like going smooth up in with protection, sure you last longer and performance is better but it just doesn’t feel as good. convo is like going in raw. You getting that skin on skin that wraps around the foreskin pulling it back and forth to completion. Sure you don’t last as long and you’re performance suffers, but you know it’s so much better
In some sense yeah. The records for sumo are higher anyway. Kinda throws that argument that "if sumo is easier then why are all records done conventional" out the window.
Also another point to add to yours is 125kg+ it is pretty rare in my experience to see somebody that big with the hip mobility to pull effectively in sumo stance in the first place. So basically what I'm trying to say is sumo isn't that popular among those weight classes in the elite category so it would make sense that the conventional records are higher than sumo there.
@@angleoflife4877 With the bend it is lower range of motion because u strat in higher position it makes lift easier than deadlift with full range of motion. I am not saying it is not impressive but on stiff bar they would pull lot less especialy on that big plates.
"bUt EdDiE dId 500Kg wItH tHe SaMe SuIt As BeNnI AnD BenNi CoUlDn't EvEn LifT It. Hurrrr durrrrr" Talk to me when Eddie pulls over 400kg strapless. His grip is trash.
mgu0000 he already has in 2014/15 at a meet where he only did deadlift and bench he pulled 420kg and he was nowhere near his prime then, it’s fine to hate the guy but don’t make up things
@Rand Name clueless because eddie hall is a strongman not a powerlifter and therefore they "dont break records without realising" because they have a different set of rules aka straps and suit. This is a video on powerlifting world records and despite that ive seen at least 3 comments about eddies deadlift not been in the video and that woulld be because he has never competed in powerlifting!
@@skipeveryday7282 There is a doubt because eddie has some issues with his hands and has done for a few years so his grip would not hold up. Thor has done like 480 no suit but with straps on the elephant bar but failed 430ish in his powerlifting comp due to grip
I think it's because sumo will theoretically always let you lift more weight. But in heavier weight classes they are not flexible enough to pull sumo efficiently but because they have so much more muscle mass due to their weight the heavily outdue sumo with conventional, something like that.
Chris being really big makes it harder to get as close to the bar and into a better position, which is important for pulling sumo. i’m sure flexibility and general purist mindset are also bug reasons.
So basically sumo is cheating for everybody except for super heavyweights and Konstantinovs. Nobody can cheat against Konstantinovs, the most perfect deadlift machine ever created.
In competition i dont think you will ever see a 45ib plate as kilo plates are always used. Boss of bossess used 50kg plates (green) for the squats. But all the deadlifts with the 50kg plates you see here are in russia except benedickt magnussons 460 which i think was in America?
I've seen recent RU-vidrs defending sumo. They apparently do not know math. Using Euclidean geometry, you do not lift the object off of the floor as high as conventional stance (compared with their own body, not anyone else). It's different. You can argue if the difference is large enough to matter, but who defines that? In competition it's a difference ... period. It's less of an issue for me than the often ridiculous bench form many have when they arch their back 90 degrees and basically press down and not away from their chest (by far worse with the ladies).
What matters is doing the hard part of the lift. Bench hyperarching is an issue because it skips the bottom of the lift which is the most difficult part. Conventional deadlift is hardest around the knees but sumo is hardest on the floor, if the weight moves you are guaranteed to make it to lockout unless your grip fails which makes it look super easy in videos. The issue with sumo is that big plates and a flexible bar let you skip some of the floor, it is only equal with a stiff bar.
Powerlifting involves reducing range of motion but this is just too much, sumo and conventional barely look like the same thing it should be separated ( imo )
Eh, if you want to watch visually impressive displays of strength with less apparent technique just watch strongman, powerlifting isn’t really about that and trying to make it like that is trying to make it into something it was never meant to be.
Gore4ever FulciLives Nobody wants to watch powerlifting in general though, most of the spectators in meets are just the lifter’s family and friends. It’s not really a spectator sport in the first place.
Gore4ever FulciLives I’m willing to bet that the vast majority of the people watching those streams are at least doing some sort of strength training themselves if not competing, and aren’t laymen who will stop watching just because the sport isn’t visually impressive.
Sumo deadlifters should not be able to compete with conventional deadlifters. There should be two separate categories. It's like allowing a powerlifting-style hip-below-knee squatter to compete in an Olympic-weightlifting-style ass-to-grass squatting competition. The bar travels far more distance in the conventional deadlift and the Olympic-weightlifting-style ass-to-grass squat. This video is great though. Very informative for a comparison between conventional and sumo deadlifting. Notice how the sumo numbers are always much higher than the conventional in every weight class till the 125+ kgs mark.
Have all of these been done in the slack bar federations? Not only the bar helps 20 kg but they also have the weigh-in the day before so the athletes actually weigh 5kg or more in the competition...
Koos Kaelo because both movemets lift a barbell from the ground while grabbing it ? Only difference really is legs inside or outside legs. Its comparable to low bar and high bar squatting. Or even wide and close grip bench
@@Exekutioncro I hear you, but one has a significantly reduced ROM, whereas with High/low bar they ROM is the same (hip crease). So it doesn't really seem fair to compare them in my view
@@kooskaelo5409 But the force transfer is different too, do you think with your legs spread out you could jump as high as when you have your legs in line with your shoulders ? You have to look at the disadvantages of the sumo pull as well, not only at the advantages.
1:40 the spotter on the back is clearly skipping leg days. Watch when he starts to walk after Keith has lifted - he walks like a f***ing pirate on his toothpick legs.
And the 90kg sumo record wasn't even locked out. His knees weren't lockedout and they were shaking all over the place. Cailer admitted on IG tho (but doesnt change the fact they gave it to him). The record should've been 848lb/385kg which was what he pulled on his 2nd attempt
