The SURPRISING Truth About the Tower of Babel! 

Like you, I despise racism. However, it seems to me that most people aren't able to distinguish between ''race'' and ''species''. They have conflated the two in some misguided attempt to eliminate any scientific foundation for racism. [There isn't any scientific foundation - but not because the words mean the same]. Muddling words doesn't serve the purpose. It only confuses. I have it that there is only one SPECIES of human - all descended from Adam and Eve. However, there are certain ''breeds'' of human - just like there are of dogs and cats. No one breed is any better than any other; they're just different. With humans, ALL humans are made in the likeness of God. Therefore, all humans are indeed ''of one blood''.

@@v1e1r1g1e1 I agree but race is a fairly new invented construct. Race is identified by the color of one’s skin. This is something that was solidified through the Atlantic Slave trade. This concept did not exist in antiquity. So, yes, there is just one race. On the other hand, even the concept of ppl groups are different today that in antiquity. You can even see in the Bible that no such thing existed. People were discriminated against or despised but not in sense as some Whites and Blacks do today. In fact, their were groups of even common lineages that saw each other as different ppl groups. This had nothing to do with complexion on any physical features. They discriminated based on what the group believed, warring, etc. we see this all throughout the Bible. Conflict between ppl groups based on what they believed or simply in some type of conquest to take their possessions. There are cases when physical features are mentioned of different groups but that was never why they saw them as being a part of a distinct group. Today, is clear that classifying a group by the amount of melanin in their skin is nonsensical even culturally speaking.

It is a sin to vote democrat. Anyone doing that and calling themselves Christian needs to take a long hard look

They are trying to take our country. It might be hard to listen to, but everyone needs to know the truth. They're trying to take God out of everything, brainwash and pervert our kids and our society. A lot of our politicians have lost God or never had Him in the first place. We need to vote in more God fearing Christians.

I agree with you on the race thing and who I identify with but I don't go for Discovery institute. I like some of their stuff but their old Earth creationism bugs me.

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Bro, what's his point

So true!

Oh yeah, that's riiiight.

Yes, that is where the English word babble comes from etymologically.

Yes we are. The human race. Our only differences are ethnicity and cultural differences. But they push the “different races” Iie to cause hatred between mankind. It’s very eviI.

​@@Redeemed.of.YHVH.thru.Christit's all about causing hatred and division. If we all are united, then the world powers wouldn't be able to control us.

That's why racism is so weird. They're supposed to say discrimination. Or it's because they believe they are monkeys like in darwinism. Then it's another race😂

​@@salvia506just as Darwin believed that black folks (such as Australian Aborigines) were somehow "less evolved" than his own. Crazy!!

The devil has a lot of lies circulating the world, one of which is that we are different races and some are superior to others.

they are not proclaiming christ, they proclaim their love of money and their love of deception and pushing people away from christianity

Rhe word of God, what's that. The bible is written by anonymous bronze aged goat jherders, it has been translated and edited through multiple languages amd its full of errors and contradictions. If ypu god wanted a message passed on shouldn't he have created a perfect bok in an instant, a book that could never be destroyed and created in a way so that it would never be misunderstood or misinterpreted. But alas he seemingly though it was best to allow a bunch of illerate sheperds to do that job for him

All they need to do now is admit to the scientific evidence of a 4.6 billion year old planet and the impossibility of a world wide flood ever happening.Genetics,historical,practical impossibility how so few people can look after millions of species when takes an army of zoo keepers to look after a hand full of animals.Were did they store the tons of water and food needed and how did they dispose of waste in there toxic unventilated coffin with one small window.

Race Denial isn't a 'biblical world view'. It's universalist humanism that it stems from and that uses slogans like "One Race, The Human Race" to promote itself. Very clever to get Christians first by that ideology and then use them to sell it.

And thank you Santa in Stories for presenting the magical worldview and proclaiming faith in Kris Kringle our Lore. Santa bless you. I believe a worldview that stems from stories (and toss in some historical facts to make it easier to lie to yourself that the entire book is a historical document. I like stories but not ones that have an evil sky daddy that loves to murder, degrade women, and convince people that they were born with sin.

Highly recommend "Irreconcilable views of reconciliation Voddie Baucham" life changing, show to any racist black family members you have

​@@cosmictreason2242 Thanks I appreciate his work. The idea of "race" and its political & social spawn cannot be squared with the Bible's account of human origins, and the LORD's redemptive program. Thoroughly evil & deceptive...diabolical. I pray the LORD will open eyes, "I once was blind and now I see." AMEN.

from a racist perspective, God told the jews to be separate. people left to their own devises typically go with their race. just normal.

@@zoftazkid5331 that was religious separation. Foreigners could join the Israelite nation by converting to their religion. Rahab, Ruth, and so on

well, it was deeper than that. he told them not to take foreign wives as well.@@cosmictreason2242 1When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: 3Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. 5But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

My comments urging you to consider the Gospel are being censored by youtube. Please read Romans and Hebrews all the way through

And let's put this in a separate comment: look for what is the heart of the Gospel

@@cosmictreason2242Hebrews is a beautiful book of scripture.

Jesus Christ is also Jewish. Gentiles are wild olives, grafted in, but Messianic Jews are the root of the tree.

@@valerieprice1745 that's not true at all. Jesus is the root

why do these things need to be revealed? Aren't they, as written, the inerrant, infallible, accurate word of your god?

Jesus is the only way to heaven Being a good person won’t get you there. “but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness-for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭4‬:‭24‬-‭25‬ ‭NIV‬‬ if you put your faith in Jesus, repent of your sin, and follow God. God will judge you based off of Jesus’s sinless, perfect life, rather than your own sinful life making it so that God will accept you into Heaven.(

@@feetyeet8538 Is there any way you can see what is wrong with that? That a severe life criminal or a pastor that is a pedo can ask for forgiveness at their last breath and be saved and someone who follows JCs path but is not 'saved' will go to hell !!! It is obvious that your god does not give a rats behind for us while we are here. Your gott just needs fodder to wash his feet, fill the choir and sing his praises.

@@madddog7 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 ESV [3] And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. [4] In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

@@JesusistheonetrueGod Doesn't mater what your bible says. I could write a book that is self-affirming and it wouldn't mean squat. Be brave enough to answer my question

When people say "diversity is our strength" I am reminded of Babel. Diversity of languages and cultures was a judgment on people who did not obey God and decided to build themselves up to His level. People still want to do that, only now they deny God's existence and just want to call themselves gods.

Exactly that tower was a symbolic metaphor for Nimrod and his people of pride, humanism and power without the need of God . Basically ically a giant middle finger to God we don't need nor want you etc. besides there " new world order " sucked and wasn't going anywhere you can't rule the world with just a few hundred thousand people with primitive tools and a giant eyesore of a tower , unless you have a entire armada of fleets of naval ships , aircraft and soldiers or a big space fleet to back you up it ain't happening lol

It was called Babel then, and later, Babylon. The word "babel" has come to mean - a confused noise made by a bunch of voices - because of the story (history) of the city of Babel.

God wants us separated. You deny this, you deny the Bible

it was actually a revival of older ways, as the holy cow was after the exodus.

Whats the reference for "the land where the languages were confused"? Was it from the program or a book you read? I'd like to check into that.

@@antav9371 it was the Art Bell show called Coast ot Coast AM. It was around 1999. I do not remember the guest's name. It was supposedly Olmec oral tradition.

@@antav9371 the land is the "land of Shinar where the Tower of Babel was located.

@@jgrahamiii7749 Ok, thanks. (I knew what the land of Shinar was just didn't know that statement was connected to the Olmecs....miss Art Bell)

The Olmec were black with Asian eye features. They know their numbers. But, not their letters. When that is known we will know very much more about that era. They say others in Mexico copied the Olmec calendar. Time will tell. We find as GOD wants.

TOO BAD ITS A LIE!!!!

He said [Gen 11:6 KJV] 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. And they are working on the Spiritual Tower of Babel today Example, Pres. Biden said, "There's nothing we can't do together"! What do you give a rich man who has everything? Love. Give the Lord your 1st love, He gets lonely too and He NEEDS your love, are you going to be part of the bride of Christ?

Is the "us" in Genesis 3:22 also the trinity? Compare with verse 5. That interpretation doesn't add up for me. It's apparent to me that it was the "gods" or angelic beings like the serpent himself. And if that's what it means there, then that would seem to be the best explanation for Genesis 1:26 and 11:7, especially in light of the reference to the sons of God at Babel in Deuteronomy 32:8.

@@rwbaira wrong. God never speaks of angelic beings as Us. They are waaay below Him. Quite a difference between sons of God and the trinity.. Also note the Us is with a capital letter. Is it angels or Angels? Angels in lower case. Also in the beginning was the Word of God. Now read John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" Again pointing to Jesus. God saying Us also points to it.

@mizmera they are way below him as they are his creation, but they they were created to rule with Him as we will (Revelation 20:6). You can see an example of how this plays out with the angels in 1 Kings 22:19-23. And who's the "I" and the "us" in Isaiah 6:8? So if they're working together, why wouldn't He say "us"? This time, try actually doing the suggested research and actually think about it. Don't just jump to conclusions based on what you want to believe. That's how bad theology persists. And quite frankly, that was a very poor argument about why God wouldn't use the word "us" with anyone outside himself.

@@rwbaira again. Not us, but Us. It is clear.nowhere EVER does God set himself at same level as the angels. Nevet. God is above all. Thus, Us is not the angels. Gof also did not make them to rule, but as His subjects.

@mizmera who says He puts them at the same level? Using "us" does nothing of the sort. If God interacts with someone, he can describe that interaction to someone else with words like "we" and "us." The only only way He'd never use those terms is if he never interacts with them, but clearly he does. Why is that so hard to understand?

Thanks for saving my time! lovely summary with useful time stamps! where you get this tool Tammy AI?

People don't know what the term myth actually means. It doesn't mean that something isn't factual, but it means that it is a narrative that has power over people's minds. That those narratives are often false or embellished is another matter. And well, those that try to dismiss Babel got some explaining to do (they tried) e.g. commonalities in languages, legends of the older cultures, comparative mythology, etc. The origins narratives do indeed differ, but they also have themes in common.

​@@metapolitikgedanken612 Everything you mentioned is easily explained by evolution and the Afrocentric model. And that is confirmed science.

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 Eh, no it doesn't. Even lots of twitching it doesn't. And I don't think you know what science is. Try figuring that out first.

Well, it IS just a myth. What's the issue?

BUT THIS IS JUNK SCIENCE!

Amen!

Please stop with the his-story garbage. The origin of the word history is NOT "his story". It is derived from the Greek word historia, which simply means inquiry. The Greek word that (sort of) means man, is anthropos. Your use of "his-story" shows that you have fallen for a false interpretation of not only the origin of the word, but also its meaning. It is a divisive way of thinking. I don't mean to insult, but I have seen many people use this word as an indicator of some hypothetical patriarchal phenomenon, when in reality, the only patriarchy is God in charge.

@@stevescuba1978 I heard people say that before , people keep twisting the definition of words too much these days like for example at the white house when they do a open pray they say amen and awomen thinking "men" in amen has anything to do with sex

It was written in the Iron Age. The Bronze Age stuff is based on oral tradition. It's not an accurate depiction.

@@FAITHandLOGIC the oral tradition is actually quite reliable. There is mountains of evidence to this. Homer's Iliad and Odyssey were handed down through oral tradition and written centuries later in various parts of the world with very minor inaccuracies, as one example

Do people act like animals? Or do animals act like us? What is the difference between us and animals other than technology? What do animals do you find so appalling? Your friendly atheist ~Sky~

Humans *are* animals.

Truth is truth... Even if it did make people behave worse... secondly the fact you believe there was a time when the whole world was so wicked they all deserved to be drowned by a flood and that this happened way before the teaching of evolution shows the irrationality of your perception...

I think the fact that the missionaries had guns did a lot to convert people.

Should be removed from all schools as our children deserve to be taught facts and not fantasy.Our founding fathers wisely kept church and state well apart to avoid the intolerance they escaped from in the old world.The two should not even be together in the same house let alone in bed like many want to control us.

@@BobSmith-ew5oi There is nothing to remove from our schools. The Dept of Ed doesn't allow any competing religions to that of Humanism/Evolution to be taught in school. The sad thing is, they teach the religion of evolution as fact (which is why you made the comment you did). As for escaping intolerance in the "old world"; the pilgrims of that old world were indeed escaping intolerance - religious intolerance. The U.S. is quickly becoming one of the most intolerant countries in the world when it comes to one religion - Christianity. Can you make an educated guess as to why Christianity would be the sole religion wearing a target?

​@@armandraygor1179 You seriously need to study Biology and Philosophy. To claim that the fact of evolution or the secular worldview of humanism are religions is highly disingenuous.

Please provide undisputed evidence that evolution is a fact. (It is your belief that it is fact.) If secular humanism is not a religion, what would you call it? @@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 He can't help it, he's stupid.

Wikipedia run by secular people. Not Godly people. And their definitions change as often as the wind blows. I don't look to it at all.

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​@razark9 proof please

Why do you recommend it? Does he have concrete proof The Tower of Babel existed?

​@@razark9such as?

@@Gary-fq8cx Apparently the original real estate listing was found in an old copy of the Jerusalem Times. 😂

Good for you, bro. That's awesome! I'd do the same. 🙏

@@LordMathiousbecause it isn’t

​@@LordMathious How could numerous, successive,slight modifications lead to the origin of Male and female? By definition, sexual reproduction requires the existence of both genders. For the sake of argument , let's say that millions of years ago, a female evolved. How would she have passed on her "female-ness" to her offspring, if offspring are impossible without a male partner? How will she maintain this evolutionary advance if males are millions of years away in the evolutionary future?

@@LordMathious I think that this is the best argument against evolution, which is "the mystery of male and female"... ‘God created them male and female.’ That simple phrase heaps a world of problems on those who believe in evolution. Evolutionists tell us that in the early stages evolution would have produced creatures that reproduce without the need for male and female. They then suppose that some mutation would have produced the gender differences, but what advantage would these differences offer? Quite the contrary, these differences would be a disadvantage and become quickly selected out. An even more serious problem is that, according to evolution’s history of life, the male and female sexes must have developed in different kinds of creatures dozens of times. No one has the slightest idea how one or a dozen mutations could have produced male and female. To change a creature from having no gender into a male or a female requires developing several new organs, changing some others, creating entire new hormone systems, and changing others. New organs and systems would have to be immediately integrated into the workings of the rest of the body. In addition, the independently developed male changes would have to work with the independently developed female changes. Changes would also have to be made in the brains of the new creatures so that they would want to mate with each other. And evolutionists tell us this must have happened dozens of times! Yes, that simple phrase ‘God created them male and female’ leaves evolution with an imponderable mystery. This mystery is solved easily by God’s Word. What a mistake it is to say that the Bible is obsolete in our modern scientific era! REF.: Ocvirek, Steven, ‘The gender gap,’ Bible-Science Newsletter, Dec. 1990, p. 5.”

@@LordMathious Here's another one. Recall that evolutionists explain the origin of our own species on a timescale of about 200,000 years. Using the human nuclear mutation rate such as 3.97 ×10¹⁰ mutations per base pairs a year, we can predict how many mutations would arise in the human population after 200,000 years. Since we're dealing with members of the same species we'll use a coalecence calculation. Putting these numbers into the coalecence calculation yields a prediction of around 515,000 nuclear DNA differences. Yet, on average, Africans, the first peoples to have evolved 200,000 years ago, differ from the rest of the people around the world at 4.31 million DNA base pairs, specifically, this number represents only the single nucleotide differences, not the indels or large insertions and deletions. Has evolution made another erroneous prediction? If the prediction for the 200,000-year timescale accounts for only 12% of the differences among modern humans, what explains the rest? Does the timescale of the origin of modern humans need to be bumped up as well?

Yep. Just like, "Let us make man in our image." Jesus was there in the beginning. It's so incredibly beautiful.

@@razark9 u mad?

@@jammystarfish Nope, he is 100% correct.

Evidence?

@@johnl4933that would be Genesis 1, reiterated in Genesis 9 and 11

@@johnl4933 science

The Bible is our evidence. ​@@johnl4933

I'll pray for you

Amen!

Yes, you are a sheep, aren't you?

You sound like an alien trying to be human

Humanism basically

Interesting. & what method did they us to date those markings?

Funny how when God dispersed the people the ones with languages that sound similar are generally beside each other.

@@tone9358 tone, I'm not sure, but I would guess carbon dating, as that would be very easy with a tortoise shell. I saw them in the national museum in Taipei.

No one knows how languages came about

Nice try. No cigar though

God blatantly told them to spread out and their reason for building the tower was so they wouldn't be scattered abroad. Pretty clear

​@@cosmictreason2242 it still does not say that the reason was that or even that it was disobedience. The point I see is, It is like if I told someone to bring me and apple but they brought an orange instead. And I say, "this orange is rotten" and then throw the orange away. Now someone says the reason I tossed the orange is because I said bring me an apple. Warning flags get set off when we start saying Gods reasons for doing something are beyond the reasons given. This was not given as an outcome of disobedience to those commands as was very clear with the Israelites.

@@igyigy it does say that. Your reading comprehension is dismal. Let the lurker understand, God did NOT say that he was worried the tower would reach heaven. My interlocutor is the one engaged in eisegesis

@@cosmictreason2242 since my comprehension is so low, please point out where is says that. It says disobedience or that this is a punishment for that disobedience or as to whatever the that is you are referring.

They were building a gateway to the gods. There are gates that are like portals described all over the Bible. Jacob's ladder, the gateway to Hades. Jesus describes the gates. He likely went through one when He ascended to Heaven. Elijah seemed to have gone through one. Phillip is even translated from one place to another instantly. The tower of babel was led by nimrod who is believed to have possibly been a nephilim or have been possessed by a nephilim spirit (demon). They wanted a way to bring the gods (either the nephilim or the fallen watchers) through the gate/portal. In later practices we see that baby human sacrifice as well as sex magic was involved with bringing these beings forward. We see that with the worship of Molech and the queen of heaven. Witchcraft, the occult, the Indian tribes describe how they would open Stargates and giant reptilian creatures would come through. This is a theme we see repeating. Currently as CERN they are trying to open a gateway as well.

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Lol, also people who practice foolishology

@@JesusistheonetrueGod I fully agree! And I love the term you came up with for those who practice the worthless, scientifically defunct, state sponsored religion of macro-evolution. Those people are true fools. Kudos to you for having the courage to say so openly!

Our differences aren't based on our physical appearances, but on culture. Some groups treat their culture as sacred and guard it jealously, "protecting" it from dilution by trying to keep "others" from adopting aspects of their culture and rejecting aspects of other cultures. Culture is, to many, their religion. I believe that's why conflicts over our differences have become so bitter.

Are you color blind? There are black and white people. If you have a hard time saying that then you might what is technically called: stupid

You don’t have to believe in multiple races to acknowledge that racism exists. This video just gave more than a few examples of people being racist. And unfortunately, here in America, there are even small towns that take pride in being extremely racist. Sundown towns are another example. However, referring back to the video, I 100% that there is only one human race. We should NOT be judging each other based off of what we look like. :)

yes, let us stop using black and white in politics because the suburbs are already brown.

​@@razark9 . . . . .? You don't know the history of the advent of evolution if you believe that. Darwin himself used it to describe other people groups as sub human.

@razark9 he literally did. In his own words and writings he did and there's a difference between the words of a supposed follower and the words of tge progenitor.

@@razark9 ? What specifically are you positing has been validated.

@razark9 🤦‍♂️ describing someone as a different race is itself removing their humanity. That's where the term comes from he didn't just call them less civilized he set them apart. Knowingly and purposefully humanity is a single race to then write up that there were people not of that race is the whole point which this began under.

@@LordMathious When I am taught anything that is Truth, Just like if I bought it in a Book Store or a Movie Theater or a Lecture I have a tendency to pay. That is my way of saying Thank You with a physical gift. Yes, I can Thank with a different gift but sometimes it is a good thing to put your heart where your money goes. The Book within the Biblical Narrative is Truth, it is what some call The Living Word. How About You?

@@LordMathious Now I am intrigued, because usually I just go off of what is getting my attention. Usually seeing a bit of Truth is enough for me to reward (sometimes). I will investigate this further and see for myself what these people are all about. Thank You for your concern. It’s always a good thing to be aware. If there is more to this than just people seeking and speaking Truth. I will come back and say so.

@@LordMathious After delving deeper into this organization I have this update. And it’s a Sermon. So if You want to pass on it, then it’s all good. (TLDR version at the end of this Sermon if you’re too busy to read the whole Sermon) God (our Father)-is to Truth like a Noun. Us (All of Us)-are to Truth like an adjective. At Best Sometimes we get it right and we do describe the Truth as best as we can. At Worst Sometimes we get it wrong and we describe the Truth in a very opposite way. Mostly we are somewhere in between these 2 possibilities. Now I would ask these “Apologists” a couple of questions, but I would preface them with the following statements of fact from out of the Book. Doesn’t the Bible say that the Book is written in the Heavens (Stars)? Which would be Astronomy and Not Astrology. Doesn’t the Bible say the Book is written in the Earth? Which would be Archeology. And Yes, the Flood and other stories in the Book are just the way it says they are. However I have some thoughts and questions on the matter. 1)If the Book is written in the Stars (think the Zodiac). Why is the story as written in the Stars approximately 26,000 years old? (Actually I think it is 25,960 years old) 2)If the Book is written in the Earth. Why does the Earth show its way older than 6,000 years old? Please realize that people who ask these questions are definitely seeking out Truth. I mean according to the people (sometimes secular people) who study these things, they can’t even figure out how old the Universe is, Because it is off in relation to the size across by the time in years old by 10’s of billions of years. The point I am making is God (our Father, our Lord & Savior, Yeshua and The Holy Spirit) are the only original Truth Tellers. We are the Liars. We are born into sin because (maybe) it’s in our very DNA, our very makeup. So satan and his fallen angels, the world and we are the liars. We However can seek the Path. We can seek/speak Truth to the best of our ability. And with me (personally) I am curious and I do seek out Truth. Sometimes getting it Right, Sometimes getting it wrong, Always pursuing the Truth within the Love. Because I do believe in the following, With Truth (Trust) there is Love. With Love there is Life. With Life there is Humanity. With Lies there is Chaos! With Chaos there is Destruction! With Destruction there is Death! Use that as a guide to know where people stand and you will soon see who Loves and who uses & abuses. (TLDR version) We All have a piece of the puzzle to this thing called Life. What we do with it is up to us, All of Us, individually and collectively. In other words (especially for me) Our Father/Creator is the Truth, is the Love, is the Good, is All the Things in Life we as fallen humans seek out and desire for in our lives. In fact (I believe) He is the very essence of all the Good & Great & Wonderful Things we need, we want, we desire to be and have in our lives. We can only seek/speak Truth to the best of our ability (think individually and or collectively) and that is the Journey of the Road Less Traveled! Kinda like taking it all (everyone & everything) “with a grain of salt” so to speak.

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We are all direct descendants of two creations of God named Adam and Eve whose descendants became every ancient and modern civilization.

@@JesusistheonetrueGodThe flood destroyed all of them except for Noah and his family. The original comment was correct.

@@JesusistheonetrueGod Prove it.

@@johnl4933 Easy. How many humans does it take to bring about another human? Two: male and female. Whst does the Bible say? In the beginning, He made them male and female. Prooved. 😎

​​@@johnl4933what can be proven by humans as we are not infinite? What form of evidence or proof would you need from another human to believe what you already disbelieve? Seek the proof for yourself in ernest.

Well said, I learned about the Divine Council and Deut. 32 from Mike Heiser’s stuff. Love it.

I agree that some of those 'us' passage in Genesis probably do include God and other heavily creatures that are not God (what we often call angels). But the 'us' in this passage 'Let us make mankind in our image' is most definitively just God. The angels are not doing the creating, only God is doing that (Isaiah 45:12). Plus the passage; 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth', in the earliest versions of the text we have, it actually says 'Gods' (plural) created (singular) the heavens. John 1 then clarifies this by confirming that Jesus was in fact there at the beginning (along with the Father and the Holy Spirit). Moses (who wrote Genesis) is just trying to describe a singular God who is Father/Son/Holy Spirit the best way he can, so he will often describe God in plural form.

@markdurdle7710 The "angels" don't appear to be involved in Genesis 11:7 either, but Deuteronomy 32:8 tells us they did have a part to play. They weren't the ones to scatter people. Verse 8 tells us that was God. But they were involved in that they were put in charge of the groups, even though Genesis doesn't say so. So no, the angels didn't create man, but it's not outlandish to say they had some part to play, though I'm not sure what that part would be. Adam's job of naming the animals has often been seen as him taking part in God's creation process, and that doesn't mean we created animals either. As for Isaiah 45:12, and I'm just guessing here, but "hosts" suggests angels, so mentioning them in the context of creation could imply their involvement somehow under God's leadership. The Hebrew word translated as God or gods is the same whether it's singular or plural, similar to words like sheep and fish in English. Only context can tell us which is meant. So I'm not sure what you mean by the earliest versions having it plural, unless you're referring to some translation like the Septuagint. Even then, the original was Hebrew, so the translators had to insert their interpretation there. The earliest hints of the ideas that eventually developed into the doctrine of the trinity long post-dated Moses. If "us" meant the trinity anywhere, Moses didn't know it. And if he wanted to describe God as plural, he consistently failed to do so with the verbs that tell us whether the noun is singular or plural.

@@rwbaira i think you are reaching to equate naming some to creating it. Plus Deuteronomy 32 is talking about God giving over some of the different people groups to be managed/looked after by angels. Nothing to do with the angels creating humanity. I am talking about the earliest Hebrew versions of genesis that have God in plural. This is well known amongst Jewish Hebrew scholars, so not sure where you are getting your info from. Plus Moses did see Jesus, he is The Messenger of God (or the angel of the lord as some translations put him) that is referred to in the OT. If you check through the passages he appears, you will see that he is often referred to as God. While there still being another that is also called God in heaven (e.g. when Abraham goes to sacrifice his son). Early Jewish people saw this as well, so you had doctrines like the 2 powers in heaven, as attempts to try and understand what they were seeing in scripture. So when the church comes up with the idea of the trinity, it has its roots in a time long before Jesus.

@markdurdle7710 Not creating. Being involved in the process. And not me. I think it's reaching too, but this idea comes from scholars. I think they get the idea from trying to understand what the image of God is. They figure the context is God in the act of creation and they see the implication as being that man is reflecting that somehow. Something like that anyway. Either way, I'm not actually claiming the angels were involved in creating man necessarily. The use of "us" referring to angels doesn't necessarily mean that anyway. I'm just saying it's a possibility. I mentioned Genesis 11/Deuteronomy 32 because Genesis 11, like Genesis 1, doesn't tell us the angels were involved when it says "us," so the parallel implies they may have been involved in Genesis 1, too. I'm not suggesting Genesis 11 and Deuteronomy 32 have anything to do with creation. Maybe your confused about the Hebrew word elohim being plural because it has the plural ending, so it looks like a plural word. But whether it's actually plural in meaning is indicated by the verbs used, like "the sheep is" versus "the sheep are." Elohim isn't the only word that works this way either. The word for face, panim, works the same way, for example. As you said, two powers theology came from people trying to understand passages that confused them. It didn't come from the people that actually wrote it. If it had, they could have explained things better. If you look at the kinds of things that led to two powers theology, some of their arguments were just ridiculous, some were understandably misguided, though some were a bit more sensible. But it's evident that the idea didn't arise from cultural tradition or from interaction with God. It clearly came from people struggling to make sense of certain passages of scripture. As for the "angel of the Lord," I've studied the subject carefully. The conclusions are overstated. He's not a distinct person. The term, when it even refers to God (it doesn't always), refers essentially to a localized manifestation of God. It's even called God's presence in one place. The angel speaking of God in heaven is therefore not unlike Jesus referring to himself in the third person as he often did, or when Jesus refers to God as though he himself were not also God. God can be manifested locally and be omnipresent at the same time. There's even one passage where Yahweh and the angel seem clearly distinct, but then another passage refers back to that and identifies the angel as the Yahweh he was apparently distinct from.

How do you know??? Were you there???? Are you trying to rewrite a sacred text???? I'll pray for you!

It is not the best explanation. It's nonsense you just made up in your head about teleportation. Nothing in the text or in the world as we know it requires it. They walked.

The bible has unicorns in it. Why do you think that unicorns are real when they are mythological creatures?

This post is so bad I thought it was satire. Nobody teleported, and that’s not how languages evolve or change.

​@@cosmictreason2242who said they didn't walk. I don't see the phrase teleportation anywhere in the dialog.

@@downtownbrown50 context is when they say God "physically changed characteristics." They are talking about magic

So you don't have to say it again

@@--..-...-..-.--.... i've said this before, I appreciate Answers in Genesis explaining the gospel in their videos and presentations

@@anoc5345 So you don't have to say it again

@@--..-...-..-.--.... I've said this before, I appreciate Answers in Genesis explaining the gospel in their videos and presentations

@@anoc5345 So you don't have to say it again

Amber doesn't show any difference in oxygen content. This is not likely to be a noteworthy influence. Genetics alone

@@cosmictreason2242 Amber does in fact show a higher concentration of oxygen and higher pressure.

@@tylersoto7465 no, this is not what the word says. First off, firmament is a mistranslation, expanse is better, secondly since birds fly in front of it and the sun and planets are in it, it is recognized as the entirety of the space from the surface of the earth to the end of the cosmos, hence why we refer to them both as the heavens - atnospheric and cosmic. That is why Paul seeing a vision of the throne room of God is the "third" heaven.

I don’t think he’s implying he built but walked up the ruins of it.

Clearly stated, "he" (Nebuchadnezzar) standing by an old dilapidated tower, that in his day,, still existed Shalom & JAH Bless…

​@@Tera4mWhich is kind of cool when you think about it. Back in those days the remains of the Tower were still there.

Doesn't even say it was the ruins of Tower of Babel. It clearly says he restored the temple of Marduk built by Hammurabi. And Herodotus never refers to it as tower of Babel but as the Temple of Bel(Baal) which he says is their Zeus. I'd much prefer this guy teach what things actually say then imply things say things they do not. It COULD have been Babel's ruins that Marduk temple was built on but no ancient source claims this.

Elaborate ?

@@Daniele63 No.

@@andrewf.bradley1106 So you have no arguments, m'kay

And Bodie Hodge does?@@Daniele63 There's no linguistic phylogenetic evidence that all language families stem from Mesopotamia (geographically). I can't prove a negative. I can't prove to you that pigs can fly. All evidence offered to us so far suggests that pigs can't, in fact, fly. Anyway, it 'is' an argument after all. That's true. My authority comes from linguists and your authority is divine. There's no amount of linguistic evidence I could offer you that would change that since your source of legitimacy is quite literally infallible to your mind. It's futile to attempt to argue this legitimately and in good faith. However, the historical linguistic knowledge shared in this video is pretty poor. THAT MUCH is true.

​@@Daniele63no arguments are needed, I mean, what's the point? We know through the sciences of linguistics, anthropology, and other fields that the Tower of Babel story does not accurately represent how the world 'got its languages'.. come on, that's absolutely absurd. It's akin to a geologist telling you the Earth is not flat, and you asking that person to present evidence supporting their claim. The Tower of Babel story is myth, meant to teach a lesson of some sort. It is not an accurate representation of reality.

The defiant act was : the building of the Tower of Babel was so that men could join the gods in heaven ( heaven was , is the asteroid belt. The gods called it the hammered necklace.) Men were trying to gain “Long life” by joining the gods in heaven. This was unacceptable to the gods. They blew up the tower ( launching pad) with nuclear weapons. The scar it left is visible from space. Many of the battles on earth were begun by the gods involving men to reclaim cities that had space travel functions .

No reason to accept yours either 🤷‍♂️

Also the Steele is a cool historical item wether you believe the Babel account or not, it’s an awesome piece of history

Been done, you're just in denial

Could be, in those who want "globalism"..

They have done there best to make it so.

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Curse the devious group known as One People! Racism was over until they started spreading it again about 3 years ago!!!!

he's pushing pushing people away from the christian faith:(