The Surprisingly Substantial Sonic 2 Movie "Pre-Quill" | SonicSpeedReading 

Technically it wasn't Eggman himself with the Shadow contingency plan, that was his grandfather, Gerald Robotnick

@@erichfiedler1481 I hope he has a role in next film

@@erichfiedler1481 i don't think that's what they're referring to. i think they mean when eggman sees team sonic has infiltrated, and when shadow goes to take care of it, he's stopped by eggman and told not to, as eggman sees this as something he should personally take care of (given his grudge with sonic). but before he leaves, he does tell shadow something along the lines of "if i don't come back, then i'm leaving the rest to you." it's not anything major, but it is a rare instance of eggman both acknowledging the possibility of his failure, as well as trusting someone else to finish his work should he fail. he probably trusted shadow due to him being a creation of gerald, someone he idolized.

Don't mistake covering every base for trust. I think even Jim Carrey robotnik would kill stone the moment he became an obstacle or it would be convenient. Robotnik making contingencies for contingencies sake is just a well executed character flaw. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a contingency for the event that stone failed, or died, that would carry out the work instead. It's one of the reasons he makes and abandons so many bases, even though it's a huge waste of time and resource to build and abandon a facility for years just in case he gets forced to use it.

BTW shadow is un the end credits scene

Really?

@@jw_gojifan19 Its been circulating for a while since the movie released Surprised it is not brought up any more though.

Eh, didn’t the novelization also end with Agent Stone of all people giving them a secret agent radio receiver rather than an Olive Garden voucher? Not gonna spoil anything, but the Olive Garden voucher thing comes up again in the second movie, so not all changes made by the novelization hold water.

@@rainpooper7088 it’s a minor change however the rest hold water as it outrighted stated that longclaw died and on this comic tails is tracking sonic through the chaos energy so yes it 100 percent adds information. (surprised that apologist didn’t bring that up)

Known about it since 2020 and it makes sense

unfortunately movie 2 honestly didn't do too much favors for him

@@Turbulation1 at least post credit scene that included him weren't bad.

@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 yea him disguising as a gun soldier was quite clever

@@Turbulation1 honestly i like it his depection in the movies and the comic it gives him the wolf in sheep clothing type of deal hes the guy that eggman can rely on because hes loyal and no one will ever suspect stone hes eggman wild card

@@frankspick7544 I never said be wasn’t bad in movie 1, it jump started his character after all. I just felt he was severely underused in movie 2.

They don't even have a Space Radio Shack here.

Feels really strange. "Backwater planet" is usually said by villains. "I have to come to this pitiful, sad little backwater planet of yours"

Sonic calls earth that in the first movie

it’s funny we always refer to our own planet as a backwater planet in the stories we make that involve life of on other planets and ours when we don’t even know if there are any other civilizations out there as advanced or more advanced than us. sure anyone who believes in aliens will say it’s ignorant to think we are the most advanced beings in the universe but space is so vast that it’s unlikely any other forms of life would meet let alone be able to communicate with each other. if there is life out there i think we are all stuck and separated by our own pockets of space which we will never be able to escape and explore out of sadly.

Might be backwater in terms of distance. Earth is very far away from any planets with intelligent life according to the comics.

Lol

Classic, I also just love saying out loud

heh thats actually my nickname, walla walla washington

EGGMANS MEAN BEAN MACHINE

Mean Bean? Like Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine!?

that refrence hit me so hard my face curved into my mouth and came out the other end thats how fucking nostalgiac i feel about that particular game

@@coreytaylor8151 Yep. Dat it.

Dr. Robotnik’s Lean Mean Bean Nicotine Machine

Lol

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He said don't spoil it man

@@supersonic9882 Lmao

"Palatine" and "Stephen Wolf"? You mean Palpatine and Steppenwolf?

Tails' fang? What're you talking about?

@Flibbee Cam OOOHHHHH

It annoys me that rules like this are a thing for these characters. Glad to see that tooth shine in this panel and add some cool character to the design.

@@DARamosYT yeah. I heard that writers aren't even allowed to show Sonic cry

@@Taterr__Tott why

First sonic movie had it too

@@Tonybaloney6969 Oh it did? I actually didn’t know that, that’s cool!

@@dylanku0625 yeah it had some promo comics. I think for free comic book day. I have it lying around somewhere in my hosue

@@Tonybaloney6969 im pretty sure the only comic the first movie had, was the short comic that came with the bluray

A mustached man in red, no less!

I think you're on to something. I think that is the case because of the empathysis on mushrooms and the fact he shot fire. It would be quite a coincidence otherwise.

Mario is Sonic's rival so I like the idea that Robotnik is ripping him off.

*The Mushroom Kingdom!*

If that’s somehow true then it pretty subtle

Considering Sonic 3 is confirmed & in production? Yeah I'm here for that. I also like how much this is building their own Sonic from essentially the foundation that is the games & other media.

Have an episode called knuckles chaotix maybe have Mighty show up too

@@trashboat5388 Idk. Mighty showing up is kind of a longshot.

@@im_terminallyonline One theory could be is that Mighty and Ray WERE part of the team, but maybe disappeared on a case (got sucked into a vortex, hit by some magic transporter ray, what have you) which discredits the Chaotix as a competent detective agency and forces them to take odd and unwanted cases to make their way back up. Just a theory, but it would connect the dots

I desperately want a team chaotix show.

Which is why the movie-verse make more sense then the game-verse

@@tonyhakston536 To me it was the other way round but let's not do an unnecessary fight.

@@modmaker7617 explain.

@@tonyhakston536 I got 2 arguments. One is a feelings one and other a lore one. Let's start with the lore one. Unleashed & Forces. The other games could take place in on one planet but these two just have to take place on two separate planets. Unleashed clearly takes place on Earth and Forces takes place on what I will call Mobius but SEGA doesn't like that term. Where are all the Mobians (excluding Sonic & co) in Unleashed? We get to see the entire planet and there's no sign of any Mobian society on it. While Forces, the concept designers confirmed this taken place on Mobius, an alien planet without humans. There's even alien writing that they created to make this world look more alien. Where are the humans (except Eggman)? They can't be on the side of the planet we don't get to see because it's said in the game Eggman taken over the entire planet. Where is GUN in all of this? These two games obviously are on two separate planets that just makes no sense to me why it's now one planet like TailsTube said. Now the feeling argument. Game Apologist grew-up with Classic Sonic, SatAM & Archie. While I didn't necessarily grew-up with Adventure games but those are the games I prefer. I prefer Modern Sonic in a Sonic X & Sonic Movie style of world with humans. Classic Sonic, SatAM & early Archie feel foreign to me. I honestly think Sonic being an alien makes more sense in that context because why are there anthro-animals & normal animals in the same world? Sonic living on two planets. Human planet of Earth & the cartoon anthro planet makes more sense and is more appealing to me. I think one planet is boring and makes no sense and two planets make sense and make the lore more fun. There is the whole Echidna thing now that people that believe the one world say all the time. The Echidna Tribe could be ancient aliens and Gerald's studies could be on those aliens and their planet and stuff. I digress. The two worlds is now non-canon which is a same really. I thought it was fun and lined up with other universes like Sonic X, movies & Archie. I think the 2 worlds enrich the lore and makes it more interesting.

@@modmaker7617 We have zero idea what the two worlds actually meant. Apparently, it refers to societies here and there.

Going by the Sega logo at the start of both movies that depicts many of their classic IPs, maybe one day it could even be a Sega Cinematic Universe!

@@bigthecat100 who knows! We’ll see! Hope you’re doing well mate! 🖤

I’m pretty sure Jeff Fowler already confirm it

You're gonna cry yourself to sleep a lot more once you see the movie's end credits scene

I know as well

@Windy no there's novelization which is a book adaptation of a movie

@@windy3935 yes

If the movies intend to capitalize on it, they could utilize the fact that the Owls came to Earth sometime in the past and left the Master Emerald behind. Noting this, some of mankind could have left with them, either finding rings themselves or following the Owls.

in the movie continuity, yes. in the game canon though i'm pretty certain that spring yard is indeed built by eggman, especially since there's a city in the background. Given that in the game lore, South Island is an island constantly teleporting around the world, I doubt there would be any human civilizations that lived on it in a modern time where they could build a very modern city on it.

Now were just missing: metal sonic, amy, blaze, whisper, tangle, shadow, rouge, and gama Edit: also team hooligan, honey, the babylon rouges, silver, rough and tumble, belle, and starline

that's probably why they're doing stuff like a knuckles series, to tell a story the comic is trying to tell, and perhaps tails could get the same treatment

They are rings.

Yeah for the movies not the games

@@tjz3158 either way its more sonic

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