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The Surprisingly Utopian Movies Of World War Two 

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@bgarvey21
@bgarvey21 5 месяцев назад
Terry I couldn't agree with you more. People ask me why I tend not to watch Zombie/End of the World Movies and TV shows. I grew up watching Star Trek the original series that portrayed a future without war or poverty. Living in America during an election year I can get depressed enough. I don't choose to believe that the future is without hope.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
If you think the future is without hope, you're part of the reason why it is. I prefer optimism. It takes less effort. 😀
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 5 месяцев назад
... sounds like they're cut from the same cloth as, A Matter of Life and Death, which is one of my all-time favourites.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Another humanist movie of the era.
@creech54
@creech54 5 месяцев назад
Had no idea Mervyn Johns was Glynis Johns' father. Learn something new every day! Both of these movies sound like winners! Thanks for the review!
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it. The first movie was a serendipitous discovery, which made it even better for me.
@jackfriend4u
@jackfriend4u 5 месяцев назад
"Dead of Night" still gives me a chill that many contemporary horror films cannot. Keen to check out those other recommendations.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Hope you like them, mate.
@georges8348
@georges8348 5 месяцев назад
I watched "They Came To A City" a few months ago on USA Tubi. It sucked me in! I found it to be riveting. I'd stop every once in a while and ponder what they were discussing. Once I'd pondered enough I couldn't wait to get back to it. I've always thought that if the cast, the dialog, the story were strong enough that people sitting in a room could be fascinating. They are few and far between and you have to keep digging to find them. When I've done the work I got the reward. Thoughts in my head that I had previous thought were now in some mysterious way changed. As I watched it the concept reminded me of "The Man From Earth". It also reminded me of how much I liked going to community theaters and seeing a play, Pre-C. Excellent work again Terry . George
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Thanks so much, George. I think there's a yearning for utopia in most people but a powerful and loud minority of us scoff at the idea.
@williamblakehall5566
@williamblakehall5566 5 месяцев назад
Excellent subject! I think utopias get dismissed these days as being impossible and inherently unnatural, vanity projects doomed to be merely some dystopia with a deceptive eerie veneer of superficial beauty, but I believe that the creation and discussion of utopias, done intelligently, can be very gutsy, really spelling out what you want most and best in life. From Looking Backward: 2000-1887 to Lost Horizon, speculations into utopia were once quite popular, and I hope we haven't lost that curiosity. Thanks, Ter.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
I love the OG Lost Horizon. There's also an interesting gay subtext to two of the characters, too.
@dougsims4242
@dougsims4242 5 месяцев назад
This is the beauty of your channel undiscovered gems. I thought I knew movies ,but once again you have introduced me to a new experience. I found an ok copy of "They Came to a City" on RU-vid ( which I am about to watch,) for those who don't have access to this on Tubi. I've always liked Basil Dearden. His name rarely comes up as an influential Producer Director , but with a body of work ranging from producing George Formby films, to directing social justice movies like Sapphire and Victim he should. For me his name pops up on "comfort food" Films and TV that make me very nostalgic. The Blue Lamp, Man in the Moon, The Mind Benders and The Assassination Bureau are favourites. He also directed my favourite episodes of The Persuaders a true nostalgic treat for me. Cheers again Terry
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Dearden did so many varied genres of movies.
@neilbrown9922
@neilbrown9922 5 месяцев назад
I did just see They Came to a City on Tubi(Canada), and loved it. Another great movie on Tubi is All Night Long, with Patrick McGoohan and Richard Attenborough, from Rank in 1962. It's Othello set in the jazz scene in 1962 London. Also in it are Charles Mingus, Dave Brubeck, and a number of British jazz musicians.I loved that one as well.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
All Night Long really works. I love the mutability of Shakespeare's work. 😀
@fje6902
@fje6902 5 месяцев назад
Actually today is a milestone birthday for me. (65) We are going to watch a favorite ensemble comedy. It's free on RU-vid now, "Murder By Death."
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Good choice. I also like The Cheap Detective , if you want a double feature. Happy birthday. Misbehave.
@taker68
@taker68 5 месяцев назад
Found They Came to A City on Prime but with a Cohen Media Group subscription. And Halfway House is on BFI. Ever saw Went the Day Well? where a small English town deals with an advance party of German soldiers in disguise as part of their invasion of Britain. Made during the war, it's kind of speculation of an event that could have happened. Odd to think of a film made dur8ng an event that wouldn't be resolved for years.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
I did a video on Went The Day Well? If you search, it's definitely there.
@ralt61
@ralt61 5 месяцев назад
I second the recommendation of 'Went the Day Well? Those British are brutal! A good movie to compare and contrast with 'The Eagle has Landed"
@brettcoster4781
@brettcoster4781 5 месяцев назад
I too caught They Came to a City on Tubi and thought it was terrific. Really well done at showing the possibilities following the war. And of course, it was so possible to be in Britain and feel optimistic, which I think was part of the reason that Churchill got the boot and Labour became the new government. As distinct from people in Germany at the same time. Pity it didn't really work in Britain, I think it was much better here in Australia. They Came to a City is available from BFI as a dual-format DVD/Blu-Ray. I vaguely recall having seen The Halfway House (also available from BFI) but not Dead of Night so will try to soon remedy that. As for what I watch on Tubi I'm working through as many silents as I can find, they've got a pretty good selection (under Classics mainly) and regularly add new ones. Many of the old classics are there (Phantom of the Opera, Metropolis, etc) but they've had some really good films. 7th Heaven, Asphalt, The Unholy Three, Hands of Orlac, Joan the Woman, Lang's Spiders etc.
@keithf_
@keithf_ 5 месяцев назад
You absolutely MUST see Dead Of Night. A British horror movie classic
@obscurecomics5849
@obscurecomics5849 5 месяцев назад
They Came to a City almost sounds like a gritty reboot of Gilligan's Island.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Nothing like it. Also, it predates Gilligan. 😀
@operationgoldfish8331
@operationgoldfish8331 5 месяцев назад
The sad thing is that things really improved for the common people of Britain after WW2, but the old Establishment didn't like losing power and, over the last 75 years have been waging a war of propaganda and deception against us. I grew up in a Britain which had abundant social housing, an excellent free at point of access NHS, free higher education and a decent safety net for if you fell off the work ladder at any point. Compared to the UK of today, it was Utopian, and what we've been conned into by decades of elitist crap stinks. It's the same in other places too, especially the US.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Yep. The kleptocrats swarmed back. Best of luck at the Federal Election this year. You guys deserve much better.
@Randall1001
@Randall1001 5 месяцев назад
I've had the very same thought for quite a while now... that we've had quite enough of dystopia and bleak futures in pop culture. We need some hope. Of course art reflects reality and the concerns that we have on our minds in the moment. But it can and should be used, also, to uplift and bring us back out of the pits of cynicism. Nothing wrong with some healthy cynicism... but like anything else, too much of it can cause great harm in the long run. The survival of society and civilization requires optimism. We need that fuel for our minds and souls.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Utopia forever!
@carlrenzi
@carlrenzi 5 месяцев назад
Greetings; I saw Dead of Night many years ago and was enthralled by it and now I have finally seen it again. I have also learned it was the inspiration for Fred Hoyle's steady state model of the universe, I haven't seen Luna for quite some time. How is she doing?
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
She's great. She's outside enjoying the morning in the yard.
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 5 месяцев назад
I can't wait to see the first two! I saw Dead of Night years ago, but may do a rewatch.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
They should all be worth the effort.
@ralt61
@ralt61 5 месяцев назад
These late war utopian British movies point to a real social revolution sweeping through Britain. The intermixing of social classes under wartime duress and the the publication of the Beveridge Report putting the case for a post-war welfare state were a big part of this. Another very good movie (imho) similar to 'They Came to a City' is 'The Way We Live'. This is a docudrama about the hopes and dreams of Plymouth residents and public planning officials seeking to rebuild a better city from bombed out remains. Very powerful, optimistic, and yet poignant.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Yep but the rich and powerful seized control again after the war and kept it ever since.
@brewstergallery
@brewstergallery 5 месяцев назад
Dead of Night is a masterpiece. The other 2 films we have never seen but will watch them immediately!💋💋💋
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Enjoy the ride!
@the-trusteeship
@the-trusteeship 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Terry for your insightful commentary! The consequences of writing have been so powerful, one wonders how we'll ever escape our past with immersive film?
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
My pleasure. These movies have something to say to modern audiences, too.
@the-trusteeship
@the-trusteeship 5 месяцев назад
@@terrytalksmovies And the future.
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 5 месяцев назад
It's possibly because I'm a sucker for English thesps talking in capital letters, but I love all three of these movies. My favourite, for the very simple reason that the first time I saw it, in my late teens, is 'Dead Of Night' - it scared the living shit out of me - and by that time I had seen a lot of horror movies, but this creeped me out, big time. It got under my skin, and stayed there for ages - even the lesser segments have a tangible darkness about them. The bridging story, unusually, is the darkest of all - it's cyclical nature means that whatever Mervyn Johns' character does - he's locked into that nightmare. Forever. And that's utterly terrifying. It's a beautifully made movie, and I don't think that many folk who were fond of Ealing's witty comedies, and well made dramas, were expecting something so shockingly dark - each segment gets a little more grim, as the movie progresses - and you cannot look away. It's genuinely awesome, and I have watched it many times, over the years, and it never fails to make my flesh creep. Every damn time. And that's a good thing. Cheers, Terry. 👍👍👍
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
My pleasure. DON really works and the stories are all different in tone in a great way, from broad comedy to existential horror.
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker 5 месяцев назад
Utopia is an underused theme in fiction and even more so in films. Dystopias may be uncomfortable to live in, but they're dead simple to write and film. (Bad guys iz bad.) Utopian fiction requires a lot more thought and effort.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Our cultural narrative structures in fiction are geared toward dystopian storytelling.
@pipe2devnull
@pipe2devnull 5 месяцев назад
Just watched They Came to a City. I liked it. Like JBP says, some people will like it and some people will hate it. At least its there for those who are open to it.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely. But I still think Priestly's cameo was superfluous.
@rsacchi100
@rsacchi100 5 месяцев назад
There is a lot that work against utopian movies. There's a strong belief it's a zero sum game. If there's a utopia, it must be at the expense of others. A conflict is required. Stories tend to be an advanced society and the protagonist tries to rock the boat.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Written science fiction has some good utopias and Kim Stanley Robinson writes the best ones. There's still conflict and disagreement, but in a utopian context.
@dantreuthart9146
@dantreuthart9146 5 месяцев назад
I viewed the movie 'The Blood of Jesus' 1941, written, directed and produced by Spencer Williams one of the few African American directors back then. It's considered a 'race film' meant for a predominately African American audience. The film is a fantasy. For further info you can google the movie and director.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tip. 😀
@paulrobinson3649
@paulrobinson3649 2 месяца назад
They Came to a City - I just bought it from your review. Thank you.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 2 месяца назад
Hope you like it. 😀
@timeliebe
@timeliebe 5 месяцев назад
THEY CAME TO A CITY is on US Tubi, as well as Amazon Prime. I'll check it out when I have some time, because it sounds interesting, and not the kind of movie I normally see.... You commented on how things went right back after the War, but there was a generation where the UK adopted National Health Care, public welfare, and Trade Unionism. It was like the powers that blocked all that were to exhausted after WWII to try, and maybe felt a bit guilty about being such assholes about it all. Of course, they got their wind back with Thatcher, may she roast in Hell forever! Now I wouldn't trust the Labour Party to put up a fight for the NIH, let alone giving the greed heads what-for....
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Sometimes you have to go with the lesser evil when good isn't available. Lesser evils are easier to defeat.
@keithf_
@keithf_ 5 месяцев назад
3 good movie choices for discussion here, Terry. One movie is simply brilliant, another is a proper hidden gem, the third is an interesting wartime political statement. They Came To A City - I only discovered this movie about a month ago. As it began, I felt sure I was about to see a movie in the style of 'The Halfway House'. The supernatural plotting never quite materialised. But it remained thought provoking and interesting throughout. I did conclude it was JB Priestley's hope for radical social change in a post-WW2 England. He foresaw that alright. Sad that our current Conservative Govt has spent the last 14 yrs trying to undermine those post-war ideals. The Halfway House - I love this movie. A proper hidden gem. My favourite characters, the grieving sea captain and his wife. The sceance scene, with a twist, is a standout. And Mervyn Johns is great, as he is in ... Dead Of Night - Brilliant 1940s horror. Comfortably in my Top Ten horror movies of all time. Yeah the vent dummy story is legendary, but also the haunted mirror segment creeps me out every time I see it. And of course, Dead Of Night has a chef's kiss frame story that is light years ahead of any other frame story in all the movie horror anthologies that followed. Thanks Terry for reviewing three wonderful British 1940s films.
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
My pleasure. 😀
@richardzelenka9437
@richardzelenka9437 5 месяцев назад
They came to a city still on Tubi today.
@richardzelenka9437
@richardzelenka9437 5 месяцев назад
In the USA
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Glad to hear it. The movie deserves more recognition.
@timeliebe
@timeliebe 5 месяцев назад
Tubi...also has lots of really cheap and bad U.S.-produced Cynthia Rothrock movies! Tammy kept trying to watch them because an American woman good enough to be a Chinese martial arts star? Should be able to kick down the gender barrier in the U.S., right? Sadly, no-she was relegated to ultra-cheap, direct to home video features done by studios which made Roger Corman's Concorde Pictures look like Golden Age MGM by contrast! She kicked ass alongside Michelle Yeoh, Sammo Hung, Cory Yuen, Sibelle Hu, and Kara Hui in Hong Kong, but in the U.S. she was in Leo Fong movies and co-starring with Corey Haim. (Mind, I love Leo Fong movies for Fong's IDGaF version of "slo-fu", but they're definitely a acquired taste.)
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
Wuxia movies definitely don't get enough respect or love in the USA.
@timeliebe
@timeliebe 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, the only difference I noticed between the April Fool's video and this was that your cheeks looked a bit redder! MiniDV holds up surprisingly well, all things considered….
@terrytalksmovies
@terrytalksmovies 5 месяцев назад
The mini-DV showed up poorly at my end of things but I thought I'd have some fun with it.
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