The Teenage Laundromat Killers (True Crime Documentary) | Real Stories 

That's a good point. Kids need love and guidance. It's nature.

Exactly right

Hate to tell you but kids from good, loving home commit crimes as well, even murder. It's not only children who come from homes with less than ideal situations

@@viyannalangager4039 nobody said that either, right? Regardless of whether you are rich or poor, it is all about upbringing. On the wrong path (drugs or crime can always get you under certain circumstances but at the age of 13 or 14? .

@@intoxicated_girL I disagree with you completely. As a mental health worker and as a human being, I see people who had ideal upbringings who are not good nor kind people. Have a great evening and it is awesome to be able to disagree and still behave as adults.

The bodega in NYC?

@@butter7734 That's what I thought he was referring to. It was brutal to watch that.

Is It The One That He Was Standing For Someone They Were Bullying?

If it is the incident that I think you are talking about, the young man walking to his friend's place then was attacked and ran into the Bodega for help. That hurt so bad to watch! You know it was incredibly hard on his family. The guys that attacked him just threw their lives away! For what?

If this is about the case in NY this one hit us hard in the Dominican community

Unfortunately these families let the streets raise the boys and then everyone is shocked when they make bad choices. It isn't a valid excuse in my opinion. I work with boys just like these young men. Variety of disabilities, family lives are not great, impulse control issues. With all these things stacked up against them they are still able to learn right from wrong and succeed in their own way. Great job teaching your kids to grow into awesome people. More parents need to put in the hard work for their kids like that!

I hate how people insinuate those with ADHD have low IQs and aunt excuse for stupidity 😭. We know right from wrong and what things are wrong to say. Yes we have a hard time understanding things and paying attention for a large time spam but we can feel remorse. When people feel remorse they won't make jokes, we know when things are serious. These boys just didn't care about their actions or felt remorse.

When your Where are the parents to these kids?

My son is 44yrs. old and was first dx. in elementary school. He is the most independent person I know (besides me). No one could ever talk him into anything he did not want to do. He struggled in school with his studies but not his behavior. His family and God gave him a good grounding on his decisions. He is also dyslexic. By the time they could test his IQ he tested 2 points from genius level. So disabilities have little to do with actions. But character does!

They do that all the time. Either that or “he’s on the spectrum.”

EXACTLY‼️‼️🤬🤬🤬

One of the James bulgar killers is in a uk jail for sexual offences .

@@stubromac2711 are you sure!? They’re both in Australia under new personas last I knew!! I didn’t know one of them went back to the UK

@@stubromac2711 omgosh! I’ve just googled! That’s HORRIBLE! They should just tell his identity. He would only get everything he deserved! :(

life in the netherlands is 10 it doesnt mean forever its just the word for a sentence

So if the longest sentence is 18 years...does parole play into this?

Remember these are the goofy Brits

I'm glad aswell, however it's a shame they weren't sentenced for longer

Why do you want to hug her? Do you think your hug will make a difference to her? Please keep your hugs to yourself. They only make you feel better.

I think this is what made this story even more sad. Those boys disrespected the entire court system and made a mockery of her sons death even after the fact. These kids had no remorse for this woman or for what they did to her child.

@@rabbit3212010 Rude.

I never cry

The thing is, is that even if raised right, they'll still cause harm to another. It all comes down to choices made! Imagine one of yours caught in a situation! Would you be ok going down for their choices?

@@marklawson5542 if you didn’t do your job as a parent then it’s fair

@@c.o3301 yeah, but to look down on every parent when the kids are stupid - however isn't! Good thing I'm not one👍

I agree. The children are a product of thier parents failing to raise them to be responsible, productive and accountable human beings.

Totally agree, plenty of people are from low income areas, and they were never like this... they're old enough to know right from wrong...

Peer pressure is a powerful force. Even good parents fail to keep their kids out of gangs. The group violence cements their bonds.

The parents just allow the kids to act out in court, just shows what's going on. During court you best believe my kids are going to do and act exactly what I tell them, the judge having to reprimand the kids, what the heck were the parents doing?

Yea if I recall that incident happened in Bronx, New York

I totally agree, in prison til their last breath.

Exactly!! They said one would have a hard time telling right from wrong due to his low IQ but I know people with down syndrome with similar IQs and they can tell you right from wrong.

You should stay in jail

I respectfully disagree with you Doris. Some people are too young to truly understand. At age 13 there's an argument for there to actually be no criminal punishment at all.

@@lenhowl sadly that'll never happen

Cowards ,

To kill, Group-pressure ain't enough. Either u are already a psychopath, or have a different Psychotic defect. Or for Kids killing their Family Members, Teachers ect. Being mistreated and abused is also a trigger to kill. Freeing urself of the pain in that Way. If ur Brain works normal murder in affect noone is unable to do that. But planed murder is a definite sing of Psychopaths and other Psychological Deffects.

Mob mentality

This was honestly disgusting to see

@@MoYoTVOfficial i agree . their behavior is disgusting

Ditto

Tbf you are female there's no peer pressure or expectation in that way , although its not unheard of

Stay strong girl.. We all love you for whoever you are.. ❤️

@Karishma H Niazkilam thank you this means a lot to me.

If you were hardly ever in school, you were extremely lazy.

These criminals have “rights”. Never mind the fact they don’t give a crap about others rights. It’s total BS.

Evidence?

Agree . Parents and environment has everything to do with how you turn out. Ultimately though we are the masters of our own destiny . Blame is a cheap way out

I just posted a similar comment. We all have choices in life, you dont have to be a product of your environment. There's always a way out, to go up or down. To prosper, educate and work to achieve things in life. Or in this sad case to join a gang and commit murder for a stupid reason. The choice is yours!

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

They're probably all back at home already bcoz they don't believe in punishing criminals over there! They chased that poor boy & when they couldn't get the door open they left and came back so for these ppl to try and make it seem like they just didn't know what they were doing is PURE BULL! They need to stay locked H*"LL UP

@@samoday2992 I disagree. From multiple experiences in my life I’ve seen great parents in good situations have a kid born that is just evil from day one. It’s not all black and white.

Very likely to reofend. Letting them out means anorher person will die.

@@thetruthwillsetyoufree9209 I also believe that.

The sentence was far too short

You're a consumer who knows the story from a 45min documentary, not a judge. Your opinion is irrelevant.

@@thetruthwillsetyoufree9209 In a civilized society, the law decides what should happen to criminals, not the average Joe like you. Shut your mouth and respect the law.

Im sure if / when they get out, they’ll do it again

*Should HAVE

Yeah 13 year old boys whom are damn near mentally retarded should pay with their lives for stabbing another kid once in the leg... Because clearly they were raised correctly, had fully developed brains, complete understanding of life and its value and had good parents to guide them... right? But in all seriousness these kids need help and rehabilitation. 1 life is gone forever, lets not make it 6 because we are emotional.

@@OAwesomeO Your comment is spot on correct & I couldn't agree with you more. The #1 reason jury's are unpredictable is because many times they will go with emotions instead of everything raised at trial.

Also, the sky is blue.

Bull crap

sometimes, the only good punishment for these people is a one way trip to the firing squad. And that is the best and only way

This is the most “duh” comment I’ve ever read. Thanks Captain Obvious.

One of the hardest, the hardest parts about parenting, is fighting peer pressure. I tell my soon to be 11year old son "you and your age mates are idiots. Except for class subjects, there is nothing you can teach each other. Before you consult your fellow underage idiot, consult your parent."

Is* not wasn’t

Its up close and personal. You have to touch someone to stab them. I cringe when I think of plunging a knife into another human, but somehow thinking of shooting a person feels more detached, not as risky. I’m a Yank though.....so, yeah. I have a loaded glock 19 under my bed right now.

Yeah. I always think there's so many shootings here in the US because it's so easy. All you have to do and pull a trigger. To stab. You need to touch someone, you need use your body to force a knife into someone. Very personal. Which is why I think there's a lot less stabbings than there is shootings. :(

It's far easier to point a gun and pull a trigger than it is to stab somebody. The desensitisation to gun violence in the USA is alarming and the main reason I would never visit the states. The UK has a problem with knife crime, but it's not on any level close the scale of the problem of gun violence in the USA. In 2020, there were 275 stabbing deaths in the UK. (pop. 70m) In 2020 there were over 43,500 shooting deaths in the USA, including 610 mass shootings. (pop. 331m)

@@Miss_ESL these stats are so wrong. Almost two mass shootings a day? Glad you stay out of the states…

@@nightb4thestorm quoted as of May 2021. . “So far in 2021, we've already seen 232 mass shootings. According to the Gun Violence Archive, there were 417 mass shootings in 2019. The total number of people killed in America because of gun violence that year was close to 40,000. In 2020, there were 610 mass shootings across the nation. Roughly 43,000 people died because of gun violence in 2020.”

NOT FOR JUVENILE.

Yeah, why even use the term "life" when it's not actually life.

I wish you were correct, but I am afraid it varies from state to state and judge to judge and how the sentence is worded. Rather than retyping an answer I already gave, I am going to copy and paste it for you. Our laws are messed up in many ways, especially when it comes to convictions. ...some states that have sentences worded 20yrs to life, meaning that after the convicted person has served 20 years they can be considered for parole but not before. This is why judges often hand down consecutive sentences when they (the defendant) is found guilty for multiple counts, basically ensuring that the convicted person never gets out. There is also "life without parole" where that defendant will never be allowed to apply for parole. That's why it's important to listen to a sentence very carefully because life does not always mean "life". Worse yet, 5 to 15 years means the defendant could apply for parole after the first 5 years is up, and if denied parole they will serve no more than 15 yrs. Judges can hand down for example 20 years for each count and if there are 6 counts then it's actually 120 years because it's consecutive (one ends and the new begins) not concurrent where a sentence means that time for two or more of the convictions will all be served at once using the same example if those 6 counts are 20 years each, concurrent, then only a total of 20 years is served and parole could be considered prior to those 20 yrs being up for "good behavior". Are we all confused yet? LOL It could be more confusing, such as time being taken off a sentence for "good behavior"... UGH!!!!! To make it even messier, the sentences imposed can vary from judge to judge within the same state. Some judges are softer than others or tougher, that's why some states have mandatory sentences for certain crimes or circumstances. Each state also varies with what is or is not an adult.

@@roseyannette2030 Excellent explanation. Thanks for the additional information.

That's why they are not afraid of killing because the laws are so lack it makes no sense

I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who heard that and said wtf? Where do you find such a thing just laying around?

In Jail for life not 18 years, LIFE, ALL OF THIER WORTHLESS LIFE

You know the typical thing oh my baby would never hurt someone he's the sweets thing.

Not a good idea to throw blame on parents. They may be fabulous parents. Kids do mob mentality crap just because they work each other up and then it feels exciting to be part of the group. It’s sad!

Life sentence isn't life like it is here in the US. The judge makes it so they can get out within like 20 years or even less sometimes

Even the USA is iffy on what is Life. Its really bad out in 18 type deal. Its role of the dice. Then ppl in for weed or assault with a weapon are doing 30 or 40 years. Its all uneven.

You can be the best parent in the world and still have a scummy, criminal kid.

@@rullmourn1142 Not every parent is an angel. Most young adults nowadays have depression from childhood abuse.

I agree , no matter how hard you try to raise children, you never stop, you get help if youve tried every measure. Some people just have kids for the money, the parents must have some responsibility in these cases and held accountable. They’re all under the legal age

Sounds like California

Thank you for this comment. The "experts" in the vid are analyzing it like the kids were living in a third world country and had no option other than join a fake gang. Not even a word about their parents, you mean to tell me none of them had a clue what was going on and their kids are walking around with knifes and swords

I grew up in a violent, drug addicted, gang neighborhood in Winnipeg. 15 or so years on the street. I don't use hard drugs. And I made a choice. Im not violent. So whatever you say to me will not be valid. Have a nice day!🤪

Alcohol doesn't cause accidents in cars. See? I just drove home without an accident after drinking 3 liters of beer. No way alcohol could cause accidents. That's the same logic. Good for you for getting out unharmed. Not everyone is that lucky

@@andro6670 Stop being idiotic, people know the difference between right and wrong, these kids aren't victims.

@@meepmop9662 It's not nice to call people idiotic ;) Stop trying so hard to be edgy. People can be victims and perpetrators. It's not an exclusive thing. And yes environment plays a huge role in how people turn out. It doesn't excuse the actions of individuals though.

@@andro6670 yes environment does play a role, but everyone has a choice. I will give you an example. I served with a man in the Marines, he was from Boston, father beat him and his siblings, his mother was a junkie, his brother in jail at 16 for double murder. He graduated highschool, joined the Corps, worked hard enough the Corps paid for him to go to school at UNC for 4 years. He just retired from the Corps a Captain! So anyone with enough drive can change their situation, you just have to want it!

and I'm sure now they've all learned boundaries

Amen!! And many bars of dropped soap to boot.

Channel is 6 years old

Absolutely right!

@Chino T. I could not agree with you more

Same here.

That doesn't make any sense.

@J van Sevenhoven I don't think it works that way.

So these children murdered because they weren’t beaten enough? That seems illogical.

You're wrong. Keep on believing it tho, I am too tired to be arsed to explain it to you ^^

It depends of the society in a country and where you live. Living in a deprived area, a social hotspot makes it very hard for parents taking care of their children.

Very true

I don't take parenting advice from a fairytale book written thousands of years ago and edited throughout the ages. Hitting kids means you are on the same mental and emotional level as the children.

In all probability, single-parent kids

They might be working multiple jobs just to keep their heads above water financially. Don't judge situations you don't know.

I totally agree.

So, there are no murderous rich kids, you think ? Mental issues don't know no socio economic boundaries: you'll find psychopaths and sociopaths in all strata of society. Eliminating poverty is not a bad program, but I'm sure that if wealth would be distributed equally, within one year some folks will have doubled what they have, including bar tenders and night shop owners, while others will have "lost" virtually everything.

People are poor because they choose to be.

Did the leader of the gang have a job? A trade? He at the least could have had something positive going on. But chose this path.

Mainstream news tells me gang rapes, gang shootings and no-go zones are not real and just a right-wing conspiracy theory so I don’t believe you.

/sarcasm

ADHD does not make you a murder! Their lack of respect for life has nothing to do with that!

@@vonbonbonjager You're looking for the word "MURDERER." You were SOOOOOOO close. Next time. *pats head*

@@Flamsterette Whatever keeps that ego of yours satisfied 😅. I think those who point out flaws in another fail to recognise their own.

@@vonbonbonjager Nope. You're just insecure because you have ADHD. It's okay. Maybe you'll be normal soon.

The UK has a problem with knife crime, but it's not on any level close the scale of the problem of gun violence in the USA. In 2020, there were 275 stabbing deaths in the UK. (pop. 70m) In 2020 there were over 43,500 shooting deaths in the USA, including 610 mass shootings. (pop. 331m) I chose to leave the UK over a decade ago because I didn't feel safe there anymore, but I wouldn't go to the USA either. Much happier in a small, safe town on the coast of Europe.

@@Miss_ESL as a US citizen living in Germany, agreed. I never want to go back.

Study show that where there is a high CC law in the community, crime is on the low side. I’m thinking criminals are wary because their intended victim may be armed😀

It's all nature vs. Nurture

What product of their environment are you talking about? They were wannabe gangsters born in the UK. 😂They were delusional and their parents and community just watched them spiral out of control.

EXACTLY

You think you know what you're talking about but you don't lol

Because people can and have been wrongly convicted and executed by the state.

You probably wouldn't see why you were in a cattletrain going to your work camp, or wouldn't see why you can't turn your tv off or hide from the glow, or wouldn't see why your govt leaders eat steak and lobster every night while you are starving watching your children work themselves to actual death because of a " food shortage" go back to Germany if that's what you want.

So if you or your loved one was wrongfully condemned would you still be ok with that? Doubt it. No justice system is 100% unbiased or perfect and death is permanent.

And in killing people doesn't that also make *you* an animal?

@@WouldntULikeToKnow. you guys realize we are animals. We have to sacrifice our brutal and animal side for society to work. That's why it's illegal to show your animosity, because you pull the veil of illusion back from society for a moment. That's sorta what happened with the protests and stuff since Mike brown riots

Did you even watch the video

You don't know what you're are talking about unfortunately!

MOM AND DAD PROBABLY BUSY WORKING AND NOT TO MENTION THEY ARE POOR.

@@wewenang5167 My father grew up in a very poor family. He didn’t behave like this. He had a job after school to help the family finances. Being poor is not the reason for some behavior.

They knew it was wrong. They just didn’t care at all because they don’t have morals or empathy. They thought they were cool. A “we’ll show THEM!” Kind of attitude.

Where did you get your knowledge? And do you really think you've figured out something that generations of scientists couldn't?

They might seem a bit funny-looking to some people, but they’re British and come from different places than a lot of us. Big deal. Being poor does not indicate that the mothers drank alcohol. They were all old enough and “smart” enough to know better, but they did it anyway. Sure, circumstances may have influenced them badly, but they still made a choice to do wrong.

@@coolgirlfrozenfeet If you watch the documentary, they all had very low IQs.

@@MargaritaMagdalena Yes, that’s what they said, but they all certainly had the capacity to know right from wrong. Having low intelligence doesn’t make someone a criminal.

@@coolgirlfrozenfeet I'd rather listen to the psychiatrists and judges who worked on these boys than to some average Joe who watched a documentary, thank you very much.

Same, and I agree

Exactly

well written Sheri. Completely agree.. They have opportunities, they chose the life they led. They expect everything given to them and have no idea what hard work is. I'm from a rough estate in Salford... I chose to work hard and prospered immensely financially and also through my career. I could have chosen that life, it would have been easier at the time. They had opportunities definitely and I know that for a fact.

Hilarious pfft

You never know when whittling will go wrong its just a matter of time .

So you’re over 600 years old? Are you a vampire?

@@Tiffanygarris LOL! Oops! Thanks for pointing that typo out. :)

This is real

As a mom to two men in their early 20's (who both have large friend groups) this is so true even today! They can be such jerks in a groups, but kind & mindful of others feeling when on their own.

reminds me of young male elephants who start throwing their weight around in the herd. the wise matriarch will attempt to correct their behavior, and if that doesn't work the bull elephant who is usually on the periphery, will step up and send them packing!

moral? Teenagers need responsible adults to teach them right from wrong, and will set clear boundaries of what is acceptable. NO EXCUSES.