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@alexcomeau4919
@alexcomeau4919 9 месяцев назад
The epiphone thunderbird was my first bass, wish i would have started on anything else of equal value instead. However, it does look cool af.
@design1of470
@design1of470 8 месяцев назад
Same. I'm not even sure why I picked it, but it was in my price range.
@WilDBeestMF
@WilDBeestMF 7 месяцев назад
Hahaha. Same. The minute I picked up a jazz bass, that poor Tbird collected dust..
@flingonber
@flingonber 7 месяцев назад
It was my first bass too, and even at 6'8" I had trouble with it. I actually really like the sound, it has a unique tone that's very distinctive, but it was such a hassle to play. When I was playing a show in my teens it actually swung up and hit me in the face and split my lip during a song 😂
@richardharrold9736
@richardharrold9736 7 месяцев назад
​@@WilDBeestMFNo Fender ever sounded as good as the T-bird, though!
@WilDBeestMF
@WilDBeestMF 7 месяцев назад
@@richardharrold9736 Hahahaha....ahhhh....that's funny...
@jeffmason8401
@jeffmason8401 9 месяцев назад
I am 6'6". I have a Gibson Thunderbird but it's basically my favorite bass. For my size and arm length, it's perfect. I replaced the three point bridge with a Babicz and that's the only mod. I love it.
@prosegold
@prosegold 7 месяцев назад
So my music partner and I have years of experience and he owns a professional state of the art studio. We are both multi instrumentalists. I am primarily a guitarist and he is primarily a keyboard player. That being said we can both play a little of everything when we have to. Drums, piano, guitars .. whatever. The only modern instrument we are both beginners at is, you guessed it, bass! When we write and produce he usually just covers bass in the daw. It always comes out fantastic. Long story short, he picked up a thunderbird a couple weeks ago. We both got heavily into post punk recently and are huge Nirvana fans so it was a no brainer. That being said, this is the first time ive ever heard all these negative aspects bass players believe about it. I just finished playing bass on a projecy for the first time in my 15 years of recording. Its the first time i ever was even interested in doing so. Also, the experiences ive had with basses always lead me to believe it wasnt for me. The strings are just so huge and the necks are always so big that holding the frets down for any length of time always hurt and i just said screw it. The thunderbird changed all that. Strings arent huge. Neck is slim kinda like a guitar. I could play it all day. I absolutely love it. So much so that im commenting on a BASS channel. Lol. My 2 cents. 😂
@markkeneson6806
@markkeneson6806 6 месяцев назад
​@prosegold6510 , you should try out some other basses at a store you may like them as well. My suggestions are: Epiphone Allen Woody Rumblekat Bass, Gibson SG Standard Bass, and Guild Starfire II Bass. All of these are slim necked, short scale length basses. They should be comfortable for your hands.
@7171jay
@7171jay 6 месяцев назад
@prosegold I get your comment about neck width (there are other skinny neck basses like the Fender Jazz for example) but I really don't follow you comment about strings. You know you can put any gauge string you want on any bass right??? The Thunderbird doesn't necessarily have lighter strings than any other bass, it's what you (or somebody) happened to put on it. Currently Thunderbirds ship with 45-105 strings which is pretty middle of the road. The Thunderbird you are playing could have had lighter gauge strings put on it at some point and some strings do have higher or lower tension due to other factors than simply the string gauge. This is why just like with guitar strings one needs to find the right bass strings for both the particular instrument and the player.
@swayrage7884
@swayrage7884 5 месяцев назад
I’m also 6’6 and these are amazing
@poopsock7991
@poopsock7991 5 месяцев назад
Are you sure you’re not krist novoselic
@IanThatMetalBassist
@IanThatMetalBassist 8 месяцев назад
This video just made me want a Thunderbird even more
@markafichuk6250
@markafichuk6250 3 месяца назад
I'll be buying myself a rex brown sig as a present, and this video doesn't discourage me even a slightest bit
@phipschi4255
@phipschi4255 Месяц назад
@@markafichuk6250 If you really want to be miserable all power to you mate
@freakalishess
@freakalishess 9 месяцев назад
I just bought an Epiphone Thunderbird Vintage Pro and was setting it up last night with La Bella flatwound strings. I'm 5'6 and was a bit hesitant to get a bass that big but I'm so happy I did. The tone alone was enough to convince me I need one and it looks super cool too. If you're a shorter person just wear the bass at 45 degree angle, it helps with balance too. Using a suede leather strap my Thunderbird doesn't really neck dive, haven't tried with a regular though. This is coming from a guy who's been playing a short scale Squier Mustang for a while now. I love my Mustang but the Thunderbird just looks and sounds amazing.
@mattwilson317
@mattwilson317 6 месяцев назад
I'm only 5'5 but the epiphone thunderbird is not my main bass. But in my opinion it's a decent bass
@frankscassi4960
@frankscassi4960 5 месяцев назад
Exactely! The strap helps a lot. Buy an extra wide leather/suede strap and that will fix most of your neck dive problems
@GorfDevotee
@GorfDevotee 9 месяцев назад
Honestly, I've always loved the Thunderbird. It has a lot of flaws but the sound and the looks make up for that for me. It feels like you're playing an absolute monster of an instrument and it has so much power. It's too big for me and neck dive sucks but the feeling is unmatched.
@michaelmiami
@michaelmiami 9 месяцев назад
T-birds aren’t flawed anymore than a 1976 Corvette is “flawed”. Every bass is a compromise of form and function. There’s always an emotional component involved when picking a bass. That said, Thunderbirds aren’t for everyone (anymore than P basses).
@philandfriends3769
@philandfriends3769 9 месяцев назад
Yay an entire video of AMP complaining about thunderbirds
@lewisyouknow
@lewisyouknow 9 месяцев назад
Yeah..... I cant see the point in this, he's completely missed the point of a thunderbird
@ampthebassplayer
@ampthebassplayer 9 месяцев назад
@lewisyoules1964 What’s the point of a Thunderbird then?
@thierry18
@thierry18 8 месяцев назад
​@@ampthebassplayerLook cool, duh
@333jobforacowboy
@333jobforacowboy 8 месяцев назад
@@lewisyouknow alright then go ahead and tell us what point you are trying to claim he missed.
@Liminal.Headspace
@Liminal.Headspace 8 месяцев назад
@@ampthebassplayer It's absolutely just to look cool at this point in time. The Embassy does a much better thunderbird than the Epiphone Thunderbirds, all while actually being playable.
@williammurray8542
@williammurray8542 8 месяцев назад
I have an Epiphone Thunderbird. Added a strap button to the plate at the back of the neck. It helped the neck dive to a certain degree, but you still have to take a bus to reach the tuners.
@morganahoff2242
@morganahoff2242 9 месяцев назад
You're right about the balance, and about the bridge, but there's one more amazing thing about the Thunderbird you didn't mention: that neck! Slim and graceful. I worked in a guitar shop and bought an Epiphone Thunderbird that a customer traded in. I did a lot of work to it, but now it's awesome. I chatted with a customer who plays bass, and we agreed that the Thunderbird neck on a P-bass body would make a remarkable instrument. And that little step between the neck-thru and the wings of the body is a nice, unique detail. They even kept it on old bolt-on Epiphones like mine. I notice the current Epiphone Thunderbird has an actual neck thru, like the real thing. But just regular tuners. Hey, they had to keep the cost down somehow!
@lillehammerexperimental
@lillehammerexperimental 6 месяцев назад
Agree - I bought the same bass purely off of how nice the neck was to play on - all the other problems are true - but the playability and that awesome vibe make it hard for me to let go of it still all these years later and with low usage these days
@raihidara
@raihidara 6 месяцев назад
That's what matters most to me, and it's why my Epiphone Thunderbird bass is my favorite instrument even compared to my 1‐2k Fender, Gibson and Ibanez guitars. It FEELS AMAZING to play. Who honestly gives a crap about the nitpicks if it excels at its primary function.
@piscada1829
@piscada1829 Месяц назад
much better than the video just this comment lol
@norbicsek
@norbicsek 8 месяцев назад
I love the way you presented this, with the serene bass-playing in the background, and this sorta "inspirational" tone in your voice. Makes the whole thing feel like "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed". Personally never played a Thunderbird, and I never really felt a desire to do so - I don't think they look particularly cool, I think they look just as awkward and uncomfortable, as they apparently are.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 9 месяцев назад
I love your vids, my friend. Keep em coming!
@Tocu360
@Tocu360 8 месяцев назад
The whole time i was thinking "but it sounds cool af" i was happy you addressed it hahaha
@pilummurialis6490
@pilummurialis6490 9 месяцев назад
the bridge is the biggest atrocity that was designed
@c.a.t.732
@c.a.t.732 8 месяцев назад
I had a '76 Thunderbird that I fixed the problem of neck-dive with by moving the strap button from the upper bout to the neck heel. I see some of the bassists shown in this video did the same thing.
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths 9 месяцев назад
I'd never thought much about this bass. Now I know that I would need that specific tone enough to put up with the downsides.
@JeffSmithbureau13
@JeffSmithbureau13 9 месяцев назад
I can't really disagree with your complaints, but you missed one critical factor in why one would go to the (pretty minor, actually) effort to address the flaws: The bass is just cool AF. It just is! No other bass looks as cool IMO. So: Looks great, sounds great if you are into that sound.... Yeah I think I can replace the bridge and get a decent strap. To me, the biggest negative is that perceived neck length. It really does feel long. But still worth it. 😊
@gloriouspeanut
@gloriouspeanut 8 месяцев назад
I find the balance great when sitting since I can just position the flat horn up my leg, and when standing I can throw it over my right shoulder instead of my left (avoids aggravating my shoulder problems). Great bass for me!
@unclecrunch9581
@unclecrunch9581 9 месяцев назад
I've been rocking my unmodded thunderbird for 10 years and have never experienced neck dive. The only thing I don't like about the ergonomics is limited access to higher frets. The raised portion of the body that runs along the strings works as a great thumb rest. Seriously, playing fingerstyle on my thunderbird feels like a dream. I can't say much on the classic bridge because mine was built with a fully adjustable one that is mounted on the bass properly.
@johnsilver8059
@johnsilver8059 8 месяцев назад
I have no idea which model you have, but my 2012 Thunderbird has no neck dive. Bridge replacement is easy peasy. I’ve also replaced bridges on Fender/Fender clones so that’s a non-issue for me. I believe you can play any kind of music (that uses bass guitars) on a Tbird, so sonic versatility isn’t an issue for me either.
@klaymeister
@klaymeister 9 месяцев назад
I like the style of video! Agreed the tone is the main draw of a T bird. I found a lot of ceramic bass soapbars get kind of close in tone though!
@alanjameshorner
@alanjameshorner 6 месяцев назад
im sure we could all find issues with other things we love. our kids, pets, parents, cars etc, but we still love them, and the sound of TB is the overall redeeming feature. i have a reverse and non-reverse and they are both amazing and sound incredible!
@SamLazier
@SamLazier 8 месяцев назад
The only advice for ppl thinking about getting a thuderbird is: Just get the Rex Brown model, the other ones don't exist.
@djf817
@djf817 9 месяцев назад
Totally agree with your assessment. I love the look of the thunderbird, but at 5'7 it is not designed for me. The embassy is much lighter and player friendly while retaining most of the tone.
@NoahShreve
@NoahShreve 9 месяцев назад
I took the Squier Jaguar H bass and turned it into a ThunderJag a couple weeks ago. It looks and sounds awesome.
@sirbenjaminarthuriv4019
@sirbenjaminarthuriv4019 8 месяцев назад
It's the looks and the tone for me. I rarely use it live because of the neck dive (and also because I only play 5 string basses live) but it's at the top of the list when it comes to recording, or doing promo shoots!
@tullyDT
@tullyDT 8 месяцев назад
Put a new strap button on the back of it around the heel of the neck and that will eliminate the neck dive issue.
@jonathanhorne6503
@jonathanhorne6503 2 дня назад
My 67 Gibson EB-0 did the neck dive thing too. As a bass player teenager in a band in 1968 I got used to it real easily. It’s not a huge issue.
@killmaker96
@killmaker96 9 месяцев назад
I agree that the tbird has a lot of problems, but I've been using it for about 5 years and it's one of the best basses I've ever played XD The tone is heavenly, raising the action of the strings allows for very easy slap and pops. Another downside is that the bastard is heavy, so playing a two-hour show may cause some back pain XD
@Jeltz0658
@Jeltz0658 6 месяцев назад
Great video. I bought one today and I have to say a few things. The tone is amazing and it looks great so I definitely agree with that. The neck dive could be a problem if you use the wrong straps. Mine has no neck dive and that's maybe because my top strap pin is at the back instead too. As someone who is below average in height, the first fret doesn't feel like a huge stretch but it's still there. The only kinda problem is the weight, which makes the strap occasionally fall off from the top. But the absolutely perfect growly tone and looks make it worth it.
@phipschi4255
@phipschi4255 9 месяцев назад
Designers at Gibson HQ ca. 1960 something: What could possibly go wrong if we put a 10" longer neck with tuners 4 times as heavy on an already poorly balanced guitar body? The gibson/epiphone thunderbird is probably the one of the best looking but worst playing basses out there. They sound great too, i still prefer a P/PJ/PP bass but its still good
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who calls a bass with two split pickups a PP bass.
@phipschi4255
@phipschi4255 9 месяцев назад
@@CHEWYCHEWYQQ Gotta say the word at every opportunity i get 😂
@gregellevsen5280
@gregellevsen5280 9 месяцев назад
What were those four basses you showed at the end, that you said provided a similar tone to the TBird?
@remusredbone1214
@remusredbone1214 5 месяцев назад
Tbirds require some imagination to play comfortably. The thing that most bassists want to do is raise the bass up so they can reach first few frets. That’s the wrong move. First, make sure the strap button on the neck end is in the back of the bass at the neck heel. Get a longer strap than you usually use. When you put the strap on the bass, run the strap going to the bridge end of the body OVER THE TOP OF THE BODY. The end of the strap going to the neck heel should go on the strap button with the same side of the strap that is against your shoulder staying against your belly. Raise the neck up to at least a 45° angle or higher by rotating the bass on the neck end strap button. This will mostly eliminate neck dive. View some 1987 & later Lynyrd Skynyrd videos and see how Leon Wilkerson held his Thunderbird that had a bracket on it to help.
@Battyphil1
@Battyphil1 9 месяцев назад
It was my first pro bass! I fixed the neck dive by putting the strap button at the back of the neck, fine, but I never liked the tone. I sold it in 1982 and got a Steinberger L2! Big change!
@justinkey4895
@justinkey4895 8 месяцев назад
Spot on. I have a friend who only plays these. I played one of his and loved the tone. So I bought one. Then I realized how terrible literally everything else on it is. And you didn't even mention that it doesn't fit in most gig bags, won't stay in tune, and I could never find a strap adjustment length that was comfortable. I sold mine fairly quickly. I can get similar tones without fighting my bass from other instruments.
@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931
@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 6 месяцев назад
There is a European luthier who makes a Thunderbird style bass that supposedly addresses the issues that you mention (notably neck dive). It is called the Lowlander by De Gier basses. There is a cool demo here on RU-vid.
@aminahmed2220
@aminahmed2220 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely fantastic video ❤😊
@HipsterNgariman
@HipsterNgariman 9 месяцев назад
I do enjoy the quirky ergonomics of the wing, where your forearm sits. I play with the strap very high, and that counters the neck dive issue as I rest my arm on the instrument. However it does make the size of the bass even worse, I'm 5'7 and I actually can't...really reach the G string tuner...If maybe the bridge was closer to the back.
@Undead__Octopus
@Undead__Octopus 18 дней назад
What's the alternative bass shown at about the four minute mark? It looks cool and if it's got a similar tone I'd like to go check one out at my local music shop.
@perryborn2777
@perryborn2777 8 месяцев назад
I'm a jazz bass guy myself, but I love my epiphone tbird pro as well. Definitely had to fix a couple problems on it, but man is it a cool bass, and of course, it looks badass
@antonslayeranton6665
@antonslayeranton6665 8 месяцев назад
I am very happy with my epiphone T-Bird, as a guitar player it's my first and only bass at the moment. It's what I learned to slap on and play bass like a bassist and not a guitarist on, so I feel like Goku taking off the weighted boots when i play a J-Bass. But I am 6'2, so the size isn't an issue, it is just so cool looking and I love the phat and surprisingly versatile tones in it
@floofthebassplayer
@floofthebassplayer 9 месяцев назад
Wow what a beautiful video. Honestly the neck dive and bridge aren't even the worst part about a TBird to me, it's that MOTHERFUCKING WING WHERE MY RIGHT ARM IS SUPPOSED TO GO! For a design so cool, it really never had the person holding it in mind, which is equal parts sad and funny to me. Great vid AMP
@Hollambaby
@Hollambaby 8 месяцев назад
The Thunderbird is my go to. I love how long and awkward it is. I'm a tall guy, so that helps. But it sounds like nothing else. It makes me play in a way that my Jazz and P bass don't. You have to play it with aggression because of how awkward it can be to play. I've modded mine to hell and back, the next thing to do is the bridge, but I agree 100% with what you say and I love it for that. 🤟
@shannonvanpatten8341
@shannonvanpatten8341 7 месяцев назад
I had one slapped a set of Roto Sound strings on pigtailed the cord through the treble and bass channels on my Ampeg SVT and blew the walls down at most clubs. And yeah, I moved the pegs and changed the bridge
@ivan65t
@ivan65t 6 месяцев назад
Yep! I played them for many years. Struggled with all of these issues mentioned. Not to mention having to lug it around in tight spaces. Still a great sounding bass though!
@GregStraub42
@GregStraub42 9 месяцев назад
I love firebirds and the ones I've played never had that problem. I picked up a thunderbird for the first time (at 16) and almost threw it on the ground just because of surprise. I'm kind of surprised that they've never tried to make a short scale Tbird.
@Bukkie661
@Bukkie661 8 месяцев назад
Fazley has a short-scale TB knock-off. Fazley 'Vintage Series'. I don't regret buying it at all.
@zomborgband
@zomborgband 6 месяцев назад
gibson made a short scale tbird
@cxx6474
@cxx6474 7 месяцев назад
I have the harley Benton version. But there's 2 things you can do to help with the neck dive. You can drape the bottom strap kind of over it and it'll hold it. Or you can do the sixties thing of the strap going to the head. You can either tie it on there or put another strap nUT on the back
@tylerjohnson2470
@tylerjohnson2470 2 месяца назад
What kinda of basses are you highlighting at 3:57 as an alternative to the Thunderbird?
@angeldiaz762
@angeldiaz762 8 месяцев назад
Would installing a strap button on the other side where it makes more sense balance it better?
@wastedqba
@wastedqba 8 месяцев назад
I have 11 years old Epi Pro Thunderbid 4 string. The strap button is located at the neck joint and it has propper bridge from the factory. Regular Gibsons used to have such setup as well in some model years. If you are crazy with stage moves, your unsuported headstock will eventualy hit the floor... But for regular playing it is fine. Not sure about 5 string as it has issues with too short pickups. I suspect it to neck dive more.
@RavenRP
@RavenRP 7 месяцев назад
Things get way more rock N roll when they fight back.
@lewisyouknow
@lewisyouknow 9 месяцев назад
I got a gibson thunderbird, completely different animal to an epiphone i can attest. Sounds completely different, and neck dive is sorted with a leather strap
@polarisoutdoors3105
@polarisoutdoors3105 22 дня назад
I love this bass! The looks of it drew me in. It fit me perfectly and felt great. Everything just fell into place. The tone was the final check mark. Very happy with my purchase
@alexanderhemming9148
@alexanderhemming9148 9 месяцев назад
I like Thunderbirds, really great sound. The old ones are amazing. Yeah the bridge is so so, I have issues with Fender vintage style bridges too though with the saddles moving considerably when I play so what do I know
@kanderson772
@kanderson772 6 месяцев назад
I had a love hate relationship with my old tbird. The neck was too clunky for my stubby fingers, and it sometimes got to the point of gnarly cramps for my hands. I'm not big on picks, so that aggressive tone was elusive.... But the thing was beautiful.
@TheoAndHisPedals
@TheoAndHisPedals 7 месяцев назад
I always felt that a short scale t-bird would be great and help with the overall balance (maybe with a stripped down headstock). Gibson have made them infrequently. Could be a hit on the Epiphone line though.
@GuitarIv69
@GuitarIv69 8 месяцев назад
Cowboy Bepop theme in the epilogue? Subbed and liked!
@sonyskywalker9508
@sonyskywalker9508 8 месяцев назад
I actually played it and had one and it really wasn't that bad. I didn't find it that uncomfortable I'm only like 5'4 definitely one of the best I've used. I think the problems of of this bass are greatly overstated.
@DioStreams
@DioStreams 2 месяца назад
being 5'5 and an owner of a T-Bird myself, the bass is comically large on me. But the tone is the reason why I never sold it
@maciejbrusio8321
@maciejbrusio8321 8 месяцев назад
I feel the same about ergonomics of a Warwick Thumb. Completely different bass, the same long distance to the 1st fret.
@thierry18
@thierry18 8 месяцев назад
Spector and Dingwall make much more premium models that are very similar to the thunderbird's shape.
@llnn5112
@llnn5112 8 месяцев назад
But they have that horrible active sound. For rock an roll you need passive.
@Foges6694
@Foges6694 9 месяцев назад
What's that bass alternative you should near the end in all those colors? Those look great
@ampthebassplayer
@ampthebassplayer 9 месяцев назад
That’s the Epiphone Embassy.
@wildesage4172
@wildesage4172 7 месяцев назад
Gibson: Only the most out of date designs for the highest price. Guaranteed.
@craignightingale8022
@craignightingale8022 8 месяцев назад
Isn't there a reversed version of the T-bird, or is that just by Epiphone? If there is a reversed one, does that still have a neck dive problem?
@user-qo1wx1ic4w
@user-qo1wx1ic4w 6 месяцев назад
Damn taking this off my wishlist now, thanks for saving me money
@ampthebassplayer
@ampthebassplayer 6 месяцев назад
My work here is done.
@jimlondos6943
@jimlondos6943 7 месяцев назад
What bass did Leo Fender Play?
@pd1jdw630
@pd1jdw630 8 месяцев назад
I always loved that sound of a Thunderbird into a slightly overdriven SVT.
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ 9 месяцев назад
Thoughts on the d-roc by dingwall? Not everyone likes fanned frets, but the deck dive seems mostly fixed.
@ampthebassplayer
@ampthebassplayer 9 месяцев назад
I’ve never played one, but I want to!
@jordansim6776
@jordansim6776 8 месяцев назад
What is the bass model shown at 3:48?
@TheSupy96
@TheSupy96 9 месяцев назад
I have an Epiphone Blackbird and had to go with the Hipshot Supertone bc the original was lifting out of the body. Also relocated my strap button to a neck screw. Other than that, its great. Lol
@cgMichellecg
@cgMichellecg 8 месяцев назад
May I please ask you what brand is the stand? I would like to find and buy exactly this one for my Tbird. Thanks a lot💋
@martindoman6385
@martindoman6385 7 месяцев назад
I bought a Fender adjustable stand for mine, a little more expensive but it does the job.
@martindoman6385
@martindoman6385 7 месяцев назад
P.S. I really like the look and the sound.
@adamfindlay7091
@adamfindlay7091 6 месяцев назад
My brother, a fanatastic bassist/ songwriter, once had a cool Gibson SG bass with a finish ive never seen since and theaction was incredible.
@bjoerniboi
@bjoerniboi Месяц назад
I don't own a thunderbird but something very similar, and I just moved the screw for the strap on the backside of the guitar - no more neck diving. It works for me, because I don't care for the little remaining hole (somehow all my instruments look very worn just after a short period of time), but it probably won't be the solution for everyone.
@PhullyNo1
@PhullyNo1 9 месяцев назад
I’ve had a Gibson’s thunderbird since 06, used it for years but it’s a closet queen now to help it survive. It doesn’t have many hours of play left.
@asafdubinsky1017
@asafdubinsky1017 5 месяцев назад
I don't think Gibson thunderbird is a failure at all. It is cool , uniqe and special looking. It has a special and versatile tone and i totally love it. As a long time T-bird player, I never cared about the neck dive because i've never felt it. The neck is a little longer, never been an issue for me. I changed the bridge but fender basses players also change their bridge, so what? The tone is good for almost every genre of music and I don't think that it cannot rock anything you want to play. Yes it is not a fender jazz bass but it slaps good, different and as I said, uniqe for this guitar. People can diss this guitar but I love it's bright with treble boost sound with both pickups on and open tone. T-birds are great, not a failure but a special bass.
@stevec6427
@stevec6427 7 месяцев назад
I absolutely loved my Epiphone vintage pro Thunderbird. I went to buy a Gibson but preferred the Epiphone. I never found neck dive an issue with it
@tannerin
@tannerin 6 месяцев назад
I played a Thunderbird in a band for a few years and it's how I discovered the benefits of using strap locks, it would fall right off me pretty much instantly without them because of the stupid button placement
@oliverkotalik3014
@oliverkotalik3014 8 месяцев назад
Just put the strap around the front of the top back corner of the body, holds it in place. Been running a epi pro for the last 8 years as my main bass. Sometimes you gotta go through pain to be awesome.
@skeeter197140
@skeeter197140 8 месяцев назад
Wouldn't call epi's "awesome", but that's just me. I've always wanted a reverse t-bird, but I've spent my whole life saving for the real deals (Jazz, P bass, Warwick, Stingray, and a 4003 Rick), that I'll probably never own one. I also had REALLY bad experiences with Epiphone over the years. I love all the basses, but the Stingray actually won out and is my main bass.
@ferox965
@ferox965 8 месяцев назад
Never understood the complaints about neck dive. My fretting hand never leaves the neck. My only complaint was that it was too woofy.
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree on neck dive complaints. Ergonomics is an issue of the player not adapting, not flaws in an instrument. People have played double bass for centuries, one of the most ungainly basses imaginable.
@basicstickfigure1087
@basicstickfigure1087 6 месяцев назад
The thunder bird was the first bass to line the strings up. Hence the large head stock. No strings being pulled in odd angles, and no string trees. Which helps intonation and sutain . I'll give credit for that.
@spoons440
@spoons440 Месяц назад
I'm 5'4 as an adult, I started playing bass at 12 so every guitar was big on me. I had a crappy squier p bass and a knock-off stingray, when I was about 16 I bought an EB-3. Bought my Epiphone Thunderbird when I was 19 and it's my favourite I've ever played. When I was short for cash I sold my Fender Jazz over my little epiphone. Maybe it's because of what I've been used to but the length doesn't bother me at all. It feels very comfortable to me and after playing the EB3 the neckdive doesn't feel that bad on the Tbird at all haha.
@math011ful
@math011ful 8 месяцев назад
what basses are that at 3:57 ?
@antifret
@antifret 8 месяцев назад
I miss my Epi Tbird. I got around the neck dive with some duck tape on the back. It could cut through 2 drummers, 2 guitarists, and a keyboard player. The only other bass I've had/have that's nearly as loud is my Music Man.
@NikeaTiber
@NikeaTiber 8 месяцев назад
Tangentially related, but I had a BC Rich Warlock bass when I was in high school. I understand the neck dive problem all too well. The bass sounded great and looked sweet, but damn that neck dive issue made it such a pain in the (b)ass. I can't stand neck dive. I got a stingray and never looked back. The balance and articulate tonality crushes everything else, IMO.
@EdgeofBreakup
@EdgeofBreakup 8 месяцев назад
Rad video!
@sigmaramen
@sigmaramen 9 месяцев назад
Weird question, but why do some basses and guitars have the input jack on front of the body, rather than on the side of it? Like the Dean Razorback or the Squier P-bass
@michaelmiami
@michaelmiami 9 месяцев назад
The bass in the video is an Epiphone Thunderbird IV. Some Epiphones (and ALL Gibson Tbirds (that I know off)) do have the Jack on the sides. Not sure what influenced that.
@Doodlebug1996
@Doodlebug1996 8 месяцев назад
Dave ! I am so happy you included dave haha
@djsangre
@djsangre 7 месяцев назад
My bassist has one. He had to move the strap pins locations, the bridge is an horror to adjust, the headstock is extremely fragile, it needs a high stand. But it also has defects.
@JubbLaRacing
@JubbLaRacing 7 месяцев назад
I want a left handed Thunderbird strung right handed 🥺
@johnrosier1686
@johnrosier1686 2 дня назад
I finally got one of these and always considered it my “dream bass” but it wasn’t as good as I expected but then my bass playing isn’t top of the line either. The strap button was already moved when I bought it so that was not a problem. It is also definitely lighter than my ‘78 Peavey. Some of my favorite bass players have played them but I am nowhere near their skill level. Thanks for the video.
@hamzaavdic1454
@hamzaavdic1454 7 месяцев назад
Original T-birds didn't come with 3 point bridges, and I have no clue why they changed it later on.
@chrisbentley3988
@chrisbentley3988 7 месяцев назад
I have one of these and it was the first bass I bought for myself! I've had it for damn near 20 years and it's still my favorite bass guitar! That thing is a monster and has never failed me!... not once!
@niasboiii
@niasboiii 9 месяцев назад
I'm 5.8 and like to play basses usually up high. Was thinking of trying one (second try) but stil not sure about neck dive and ergonomics. The Embassy looks off to me. The Newport looks cool, but as shorty don't know if it gets the t bird tone. Also quality issues and out of phase wiring. Don'tknow if they addressed that. Priced for Newport went up from 399€ to 499€. Because of good sales I guess.. Haha.
@ReignCharger
@ReignCharger 8 месяцев назад
I'm 6'2 and i kinda love fighting it. but im mainly a J and P bass player.
@user-dn5sy7px2h
@user-dn5sy7px2h 2 месяца назад
I am thinking of adding an 22 fret Jackson neck.
@justmedee
@justmedee 9 месяцев назад
great vid but just a suggestion, the volume of the bass backing track is too loud and almost drowns your voice in many parts. Became really hard to focus on what you were saying after 2 minutes.. for future vids maybe turn down the backing track to minimum :) otherwise very interesting vid!
@erwinc.9117
@erwinc.9117 6 месяцев назад
The Thunderbird is my first and only bass. I hate every moment performing with it (thanks neck dive) but the looks and the sounds are just so good. I just haven't found a bass that gives me that, except the new Epiphone embassy, which I'm heavily considering...
@theotherstatesofamericahis5212
@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 6 месяцев назад
A guitarist friend tried to sell his tbird to me, I picked it up, neck dive ensued, and I went right back to my j bass.
@humanbass
@humanbass 8 месяцев назад
Big upper horn became a Fender thing and since guitars dont need one to have proper balance on a strapv (lespaul, firebird, etc), Gibson insisted that this design approach it would be ok for basses too. It was not.
@skaladarrellgodeater1070
@skaladarrellgodeater1070 7 месяцев назад
I played once This bass is so hard n heavy. I had to play it with a pick (seriously, normally I play with my fingers, but this bass was an exception) got tense strings. Also... Sounds pretty good.
@elai3147
@elai3147 8 месяцев назад
nailed it, had one, sounded amazing, but being 5-8 gave me back pains and had to sell it
@timmothymonaghan5236
@timmothymonaghan5236 3 месяца назад
im aPete Way fan UFO and i have 2 Thunderbirds along with many other Bass guitars in my collection i Love them they sound amazing
@AdenMonica
@AdenMonica 6 месяцев назад
You can buy a 3D printed Thunderbird stand to play it standing up it just slides in, works for epiphone iv
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