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cause it's islam where women have no rights even when they live in Europe. Her husband would've taken everything from her and made sure she's as miserable as she could be
What makes me mad is when people in the comments justify the murder of Saqib because of his blackmailing. Imagine if a 50 year old man had an affair with a 21 year old girl, and later the man murders this young girl for her blackmail. WOULD YOU STILL SAY THAT IT WAS THE GIRL’S FAULT?!
Very true. Hashim lost his life by assisting his cousin when needed. Completely 100% innocent. Heartbreakingly sad. As for Saqib, he shouldn't have resorted to blackmail. This is a highly intense offence in most countries. Saying that, he certainly didn't deserve to die
The ONLY person I feel sorry for is the friend that simply wanted to help his friend out and give him a lift. The person who decided to blackmail the mother didn't deserve to die, but he brought that on himself. I reject the family's description of him being a nice and innocent person.
@@saralintala1473 I would have to re-watch the the beginning, but I believe when he passed he was either 20 or 21. When I was 18 I dated older women in their 30's as well, blackmailing at any age for a sane person shouldn't remotely cross your mid.
He was manipulated and groomed bro. People just don’t want to admit it because an older woman did it. If he was a young woman and she was an older man the narrative would be different.
This is not to victim blame but a cautionary tale to never blackmail a person under any circumstances. You do not know how people will respond when they feel backed into a corner. This was sad and extreme and nobody won in this case. Those women are disgusting and so are the others involved.
@@deusexmachina9776regardless of how bad blackmailing somebody is, what happened here absolutely DOES NOT justify and lead to blaming of a guy who ended up being murdered, plus murdering somebody who was completely innocent in all of it
@@StardustRains he didnt just blackmail. he had an affair with a married woman. then dragged his friend into it. how where they supposed to know the friend knew nothing. even if they succeeded in the plan of roughing him up. the friend would have gotten beaten too. also the car chase got out of control so it is not like they violently murdered him by beating him - just shows when you do dumb shit things get out of control. he created the situation. cuz he died by accident people overlooking a gross character.
Lessons: 1. Don't force marriages. Let people be whatever they want. 2. Don't cheat. Divorce. 3. Don't involve your children to solve adult affairs. Your children are not your Friends. You are a parent. 4. Don't blackmail and extort money. She was right in finishing that affair. If you think he would've stopped after the 1st "payment", think again; who ask back for money used in dates? No one with good intentions.
@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 stfu, people can divorce if they want. She was forced to a unwanted marriage by her family when she was young. Nobody marry for life, grow the F up.
this is so true. something wrong one person is doing can have a massive impact on anyone around them. from any side. do harm, harm will follow, something to that effect.
My heart deeply hurts for Hashim's family😢😢😢. He did not deserve to die. No one did. His kindness cost him. May his family find semblance and closure. Its so so painful
How interesting, that Saqib was "such a sunshine, marvelous and loved by everyone" person, while harassing and blackmailing a woman. A proud heir to his family, he was.
Crqzy how the mother was probably considered "loving and caring" all the while cheating on her husband. This video condensed a lot of info but this also wasnt her first affair. Its easy to throw stones of judgement but maybe think of widening your range.
@@a_kmza Stones of federal and state judgement suggest that you can get a year of prison for blackmailing, which is a felony. How exactly wide should my range be in order to consider blackmailing and harassment to be excusable for whatever reasons?
@a_kmza And she will spend her life in prison as a consequence of her actions. Remarkably, if Saqib was indeed such a "kind, compassionate, caring and sensible" person that his family claims he was, he might still be alive. So he too faced the consequence of his actions (altho he clearly got more than he bargained for). He clearly didnt deserve to die, but he clearly was a lowball abusive cockroach and not a cherub.
@@ТихонК-е1ь you don't know what happened between the guy and the older woman. Maybe she promised him the world and showed him dreams of a wonderful future together. At the age of 21 he was quite young and possibly dreamy. It's very difficult to let go relationships which have worked really well and end up for no fault of your own but only because your partner was manipulating you from the beginning. The older woman is clearly more responsible for the tragedy. She was mature, married for a long time, bore children who were almost the same age as the guy she was cheating his husband with. She had seen the world far more and understood much better the consequences of the extramarital affair.
Obviously he didn’t deserve to be killed but let’s not forget he was threatening to destroy a woman’s entire life with blackmail because he wanted to punish her for not sleeping with him. Are we really gonna call that guy kind, caring, sensible and all that other BS his family said 😅
She ruined her own life by having an affair with kid that her daughters age. She's a grown ass woman who played with fire cause of her promiscuity. Sharing nude and xratad videos with her lover boy. She's a disgusting wife and a disgusting mother.
@@msfruityface Yeah, too many people on the internet think that the moment somebody becomes a crime victim it erases all the things that person did that was wrong.
I was thinking the same thing.... kind, caring and sensible? I mean it's a tragedy that he was murdered yes, but are we really going to casually gloss over the fact that he messed with a married woman and tried to extort money from her by treatening to expose her and make her private images/vids public? Everyone involved with this case seems awful, except maybe the friend that was driving and had no idea what was going on.
Hey Adrian, I’m not sure if I spelt it right but I would just like to let you know that I drive for a living. I am a para transit driver and I put your videos on to just chill during stand still traffic or long drives and I just want to say thank you for being awesome and making awesome videos. You make my day at work go by quick thank you lol
The police-work in the UK constantly amazes me. The CCTV cams everywhere unlock most secrets, not all, and that's only a matter of time. Thanks Adrian. Great show.
Do you think living in a surveillance state is a good thing? I don’t say this to be mean I’m just curious…. I wonder how this happened to England and if people are on board with it… seems like such a violation of life to me. I think we should be able to live of lies without the government monitoring us.
@@dallasdobson8831 The government? Forget about the government. It's the police that have extra eyes on the ground. You've got guns aimed all over the place in the States and you're okay with that? CCTV is only consulted when something awful happens in a community. So, you're thinking that it's an unfair advantage for the police? What are you talking about?
@@dallasdobson8831Surveillance is everywhere since 9/11 and became even more severe since the London 7/7 attacks, especially if you live in a city. The moment I step out of my apartment door until I come back home I’m being surveilled. I moved here from Switzerland and it took me a while to get used to it. Now I don’t even notice the cameras
I feel really, really bad for Hashim. To be murdered for taking your friend to a grocery store is unfathomable and I'm glad that whole lot will be in jail for a very, very long time. Not so much for Saqib. Did he deserve to be murdered? No because murder is wrong but it's real hard to find any sympathy for someone who decided to try to ruin a woman's life because he couldn't own them.
@@RealSlendyBoia cheater who for onve was free to choose, instead of being forced. A forced marriage and a forced life, cos he dreams didn't matter to her family.
@@Uapa500 and she was also free to choose to confess to her Husband what she had done. She was also free to make the decision to leave her Husband before she started the affair. As far as I'm concerned any cheater deserves to have the affair partner threaten to expose what they did to the other person's spouse, and especially to follow through with it.
I do wonder why more isn’t being made of the fact Ansreen started an affair with a teenage boy. She was old enough to be his mother, and from what I have read there seems to have been some type of grooming going on. If a 40+ woman has a years long relationship with a teenager, it’s not all that surprising to me that he went crazy and started blackmailing her when she ended it. He’d become dependent on her, that’s what happens in romantic relationships between someone who could be a parent figure and a child. It’s sick.
Shut it. This was IN NO WAY GROOMING. You need to stop being a coconut. It was in NO WAY grooming. It was simply that no girl his own age, wanted to be anywhere near him, including mahek. And he found older women confident and attractive which a lot of young men do. Good riddance to him.
this right here exatly my thoughts ...of cours hes young of course he gonna fall in love with a married woman the whole TABOO thing is very personal and intimate and against the rules wich is why its a rush when you do it .. geting off the rolle coaster would have takin him time to get used to but he would have gotten used to it and maybe returning the money would have put out the fire but hiring a gang of dudes and committing murder an thinking this is the right course of action is insane .. and the person to ploit is only 4 years older then the guy she was sleepiung with of course there clueless solution was to kill innocent people here the mom sititng in the corner saying "yea yea lets kill em " they deserve there time for being absenminded
@@AbdullahHashi-kw3qj why’s that, what’s behind that conclusion? Girls actually develop to maturity way quicker than boys. You’re very very wrong with this silly assumption.
Great work , Adrian, as always! Such a sad case with senseless murders. My sympathy to both the victim’s families. I can imagine what they are going through. May they both rest in peace
I blame the mother in all this more than anyone else. What on earth was she thinking starting a relationship with someone younger than her own children. And when she decided to confide in her daughter, why didn’t she try to prevent her from taking the law into her own hands? She was the adult. Their stupid decisions have affected the lives of so many people. Two families lost their sons in the most horrific circumstances. Mahek’s brother and father probably had to relocate to a different city because of shame and embarrassment. Even the families of all those young people who stupidly decided to get involved in this mess must be heartbroken.
This is such a sad case. I'm glad the sentencing was matching to their crimes. Usually UK sentencing is quite lenient. I'm glad it wasn't the case in this one. May both boys rest in piece.
I'm very surprised at the length of the sentences too. Thought they would probably get something like 8-10 years. Mind you, if they appeal, those sentences could be reduced, so not holding my breath.
Wow, did none of the commenters below watch the video to its entirety? OPs’ 3 digit IQ joke was in reference to the same sarcastic joke Coffeehouse Crime made. It was in the beginning parts of the video.
It's awful.. as someone from Banbury I was following the events closely and it's so sad how people think they have the right to take someone else's life.. 😢
Maaaaan you got me good with that Sarcasm Meter bit. I usually listen to your videos in the background while I cook or eat, so when I heard that I had to do a double take😂😂😂😂 Way to grab someone's attention
@@ChuckPalomo agreed but it might be a bit harder to convince new generations to idolize “career narcissists” rather than “influencers” so I imagine that’s part of why they’re called how they are. This world is seriously sick
Got to feel SO bad for Maheks father. You didnt say much about him or anything, but he had to be devistated about all this stuff. He had to feel like 5 or 6 different emotions at one time finding all this out lmao
In my head I pictured someones mind actually exploding from hearing all the stuff they actually did. Thats what made me think of that part as funny. Not the whole situation. I clearly said you have to feel bad for the man. His ENTIRE household was completely screwed mentally. Whats funny about that? Nothing. Obviously @@abubakr4401
People deal with emotions differently, for instance, laughing hysterically when someone you care for dies. It was awkward placement, but I feel that your phrasing might’ve possibly been a bit rigid.
Hey CoffeehouseCrime, I have a suggestion for a case that is still unsolved but really worth looking into. It’s about a girl named Tair Rada and there was even a Netflix show about it years ago. The person who was guilty, got released in 2023 and it’s going unsolved now for many years. It’s very fascinating
i recently read about this and wow. what makes these cases worse sre the cases that NEVER are mentioned or given light. be the change. if you see this comment please look at your local missing persons and unsolved cases and vote locally say their names. be the change.
I find it quite sad that people are saying saqib deserved what he got. He didn’t deserve to die. He was a young lad, don’t forget when you were young when you had your heart broken you never knew how to deal with your feelings. She was a married woman who was more mature. He wasn’t innocent but for people to say he got was coming is disgusting. I feel for him. Poor hashim as well. They should have went to police saying she was being blackmailed.
The truth, he didn't deserve to die. Whilst one of the killers was also a rapist (got convicted of that but was not allowed to be reported so as not to affect outcome of the murder case)
Well said. I did a LOT of stupid and immoral things when I was his age (even though blackmail wasn't among them). He was just a young lad, making dumb decisions, as we all do at that age. He didn't deserve to get brutally beaten with a tire iron by a mob for his crime, much less murdered.
*What's up with the big ol' tarantula eyelashes?* Looks so bad...makes you wonder if the woman who wear them have mirrors! _and the eyebrows and the claw fingernails...ugh_ Glad they were all sent to prison. She could have just said no to the blackmail...better yet, how about NOT cheating on your husband.
When you're ugly and full of yourself on the inside, it manifests itself on the outside. My gut tells me to stay farrrrrrrr away from such people. I'm at least happy they make it so easy to spot them.
What a sad case. He shouldn’t have threatened to release her photos, but the punishment for that should not have been the loss of his life and his friend’s life! Truly awful.
@@RABITOY21an innocent man who knew nothing about what happened with his friend didn't deserve to die because of things he was completely unaware of. As far as he knew, he was just trying to help his friend.
@user-pn4px5lr8w : I don't believe he knew nothing about it. I'm not going to ride with someone to pick up money in an empty parking lot at 2 in the morning without finding out why we're going there.
I want to thank Adrian for all his hard work. I love this channel and am always keen when I see a new post. This story is a difficult one for me, though. Did the victims deserve what happened to them,? No, of course not. No one deserves to be met with violence of that or any magnitude. That being said, I couldn't help but feel like the fact that he was blackmailing the mother, someone he purported to love, is far from the 'good person' image that he has been given. Maybe it's because there is a lack of objective information, but I feel like there are pieces missing to this case that may never come fully to light.
Hi Adrian! Just wanted to say that I love watching your videos while prepping/unwinding my day. I’ve been watching your videos since the start of this year and have always looked forward to your videos ☺️ Your journalism and narration is very informative and soothing; thank you for your hard work!
As a Yank, I know very little about life in the UK, however, I for sure know that nothing, at all, ever, good has happened in the early morning hours in a Tesco parking lot.
Great content, Adrian, as usual. Thoughts and prayers for the victims. If the mother went to the police to say she was being blackmailed then this tragedy would have been avoided. Instead, 2 lads have lost their lives, and multiple people are going to be in jail for most of their lives.
If she did, she would have risked him releasing the nudes. At most, he would have gotten a slap on the wrist. Hopefully, this acts as a cautionary tale for those as stupid as he was.
I'm glad this young man was smart enough to call emergency services. Because of his call, he solved his and his friends' deaths. These two young men died a horrible death. May they RIP. I don't understand why this evil women's social media hasn't been shut down.
Idk why they don’t take it down either… Maybe TikTok and YT don’t have a formal scanning process that detects convicted murderers. They prolly only take down profiles if they get a bunch of requests from the public to do so. And the sad part is, they’re likely gonna get more views post murder… But at the end of the day, all we care about is that they aren’t still making money off the videos!
Do you have plans to cover the Lucy Letby case? I'd really like to see you cover it and I'm interested in your thoughts on it. Thanks for all the great videos!
It seems that just when I got it out of my head the first time, it was back in the news again for sentencing and it hit me even worse. For my own well being, I'm not interested in hearing it over again. Maybe new developments would be tempting enough, but it was also super traumatic. I gotta try and ignore that one
@@JK-gm6kk I can understand it being too hard to watch. I was curious since it is in the UK and it happened in the 90s with another nurse- Beverly Allitt. It just strikes me as interesting since I've seen 2 cases that happened in my whole lifetime that were really similar. But I understand needing to protect yourself from something so awful like this.
this is a sad story, that women should be ashamed of herself. Cheating on her husband and having a relationship with a young man/boy he couldn't even drive. Shame on her.
He probably couldn't drive because like the 2 males driving the Audi & Saab, their licences had been cancelled. He also had history of stalking and threatening another woman who went to the police. He was no little innocent.
The amazing calm needed to read and recite the license plates on an emergency call. Like many people call and just scream but this man gave them the plates. Very sad situation but thankfully his calm mind brought them justice after death.
you must work EMS. because youre absolutely correct. most people are screaming, cursing, and give little to no identifying info. it hurts. it hurts taking those calls and hearing them, it hurts responding to them, and people dont consider that. this case is a breakthrough case because it showcases how one bad thought/ action can cascade into an avalanche and all hope is lost
Death is always on the table when your choose to use blackmail. People will go to great lengths to protect themselves. I personally have no sympathy for the type of character that uses blackmail. I feel for his friend.
Saqib was not your average blackmailer. He just wanted his money back. Wasn’t that much for them to give. Of course, as you put it, he was young and could not let go
"Kind, compassionate, caring, and sensible" I understand the guy didn't deserve the die, but he isn't a saint. This started from the guy blackmailing someone and extorting money, still wasn't deserved though. I do however feel badly for the family of the guy that was just being a good person by giving his friend a ride.
Thank you DA If only more people of this country saw it how it is.. keep doing what you do to educate the masses. You are the only hope for this once beautiful country😢
I think that when a relationship is over, a person needs to accept this, and certainly any money either party spent on each other was something that was a gift. I'm very happy that all the people in jail got what they deserved for harming other humans. They should have just gone to the police and reported the threats.- no person owns another human being.
We have a Leicester here in Massachusetts. It's hilarious listening to non-residents try to pronounce it. Same applies to all of the English town names we have.
Its amazing what tiktok users find entertaining. Look! I made hand gestures! Look at my so called dance! Look! I made a weird noise or drank a drink. Wow! Top notch.
I just don't get tiktok either but than I am 63y and only have WhatsApp I have no social media and no interested in seeing what people eat, holidays ect even when we had real photos and people would bring them into work and say would u like to see my photos i would always say no 😅 🇬🇧
I can understand Mahek wanting to help and protect her Mother but they went wayyyyy over the top and as a result, two young, decent people died. Mahek and her mother should of gone to the police in the first place. There actions made them go from victims to victimizers and it was senseless. They got what they deserved and will have a long time to think about it. Thank you Adrian for another great and compassionate video!😊😊
@@mrsmerilyyeah, and they could have contacted the cops instead of resorting to murder that led to them being in jail for potentially the rest of their lives. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong, but the hand he was dealt was far worse than it had to be, leading to a needless life sentence for those two women because of a heat of the moment plan they decided to act on instead of getting the police involved.
What two young decent people the one threatening to release nudes and blackmailing. He wasn’t decent. He was literally on his way to do a crime and bad thing sometimes happen to bad people.
I don’t want to shift the blame onto the victim but he literally had illegal images of the mum and blackmailed her for money (knowing she was married and had a family). He took his innocent cousin to something where he would try to settle his “deal”, which blackmailing is illegal so he should’ve known better. I believe he shouldn’t have passed away and that’s unfortunate end but he’s not the innocent one here.
Glad this untalented, attention seeking TikTok "influencer" Mahek will be behind bars for the rest of her life. No one except for Hashim, who only wanted to help his friend, was fully innocent in this case, but Saqib definitely didn't deserve to die for blackmailing. This generation is so messed up (and I'm part of this generation myself). Social media really can cause a lot of trouble and even death in the most extreme cases. I'm happy Mahek and some of her accomplishes won't see daylight ever, or for a long time. My prayers and thoughts go out to Hashim's family and friends and Saqib (although not totally innocent, but definitely didn't deserve to die for this) his family. People like Mahek are a disgrace to society.
finally someone with a brain saqib been getting a lot of shi some ppl saying he deserved to die which is mental he wasnt innocent but killing him was wayyyyy too far he was also groomed by her at 17 rip both lads the mf who are defending the girls got no brain
Having an affair is generally not advisable, but definitely don't have one with a person who is too young to have had enough life experience to deal with the relationship falling apart. Affairs aren't known for ending happily ever after.
Love how those Bobbies solve so many crimes with the help of CCTV. While Canada still respects the "privacy act", which literally means the privacy of the criminals. Cos if ur not doing anything illegal u have nothing to lose by this third eye on the streets. But unitedly invading the privacy of a senior woman to demonize and terrorize her is ok? O Canada
very sad. human by nature should be kind and should have a desire to help. Where does this sensation of killing somone come from? It is not natural. God created us to be kind and good hearted.
Poor Hashim, the only decent person in this murderous saga. It all stemmed from that trash Mahek and her equally trash mother. Being of Pakistani descent myself living in England, I wish our community wasn't such a shameful embarrassment. Constantly showing off and consumed by vacuous lifestyle choices. Meanwhile I love my volunteer work in animal rescue and with a local group that cleans up rubbish from tow paths and streams.
Ok, so they must've known that he can't drive, and an innocent person is going to give him a lift. Their lifestyle was an embarrassment to the family and community in the 1st place, but this is just evil.
This is so similar to my brother case instead of car, they beat my brother out just because my brother trying to help his friend after my brother go there the friend of my brother running away leave my brother alone, and to this day nobody is arrest because of corruption im so piss right now. My brother passed away at the age of 23, right now my age is 23 same age as my brother before passed away
I’m glad the guilty got the punishment they deserved. As for Hashim it’s sad how his best friend didn’t tell him the whole story behind his meeting at Tesco car park. He lost his life because he trusted his best friend and because he was there for him.
He wasn’t no innocent angel his family is making him out to be but they didn’t needed to die that way especially his really innocent friend. Blackmail is a horrible thing to revenge and she’s no lady for her participation. There’s a lesson to be learned here.
Hashim is the only truly innocent person here. It’s a tragedy that he lost his life. Other than him, I don’t feel bad for anyone else. Mahek and her mother deserves prison. Everyone else deserved prison as well. Causing a crash and not caring about the lives of those in the crash tells a lot about someone. Saqib didn’t deserve to die, but his actions led to his death. Blackmailing someone is not a good idea in any country. You don’t know who you’re dealing with and if they are crazier than you. So in any relationship, it’s better to just let things go. I understand his age, but that’s still not an excuse to let him off the hook. There are always consequences for actions.
That's one for a midlife crisis! You know I think it's got something to do with the timing in the world because I've seen moms getting stupid thinking they're young and sisterly rather than the mom they were ten years ago.
I love seeing cases like this when things aren't entirely black and white. The guy had an affair with a married woman, blackmailed her when she ended things (blackmail is never just one off either, he would have continued to do it), brought a male backup to, what was in his mind, a meeting with 2 helpless women. Did he or his friend deserve to die? Absolutely not. But their deaths were more accidental than intentional too. And most likely if they wouldn't have ran and stayed to take the beating, they would probably still be alive.
I agree about them not plotting to murder, it was more like they were going to rough him up & scare the daylights out of the mother's lover. Then things got out of control with the car chase.
@@Freckle_Face2247think he is saying... Best show teens this story and see how a young woman lost her young age to prison cell....let them know what it's all about..
@@Freckle_Face2247Mahek’s friends all joined in because they felt peer pressure and now they are in jail even tho they didn’t do much and were just passengers in the car
When I hear about a crime that involves several accomplices, I can never understand how people know, and are able to gather, so many others with equally dark hearts, willing to help with hurting someone. I don't know anyone I can call and ask for help doing anything like this. It's just crazy to me.
There's a surprisingly high amount of people that would "go with the flow" whether that be doing good or bad deeds. The milgram experience I think it was called, suggested that people are highly influenced by authority, and highly obedient. So I guess if you have somebody of high status, in this case a social media influencer, many 'ordinary' people could be sucked into doing wicked things for her without much thought. It's the same thought process of why Nazi's did horrific things themselves, simply saying afterwards "I was _just_ following orders".
I didn't look through the trial (is it public?) but I am just thinking maybe these 2 bitches told their accomplices that they are just going to scare these 2 guys.
People like this do tend to group together. Even crappy people don't like to be judged, in this case about how far they'll go when they feel like they've been wronged.
@@skycloud4802 don't forget the other, rather infamous experiment, the Stanford prison one, whereby when presented with (the illusion) of power, a pretty normal student population (ie. not scoring high on the tests where they were looking for signs of psychopathy) went crazy drunk on power acting as prison guards (food for thought on police brutality btw..) and started torturing their colleagues who played the prisoners. Their treatment of the ''prisoners'' got so bad and extreme that the students started to show signs of trauma, and they had to stop the experiment altogether. Lesson to take away....Give a man (people) power and watch what they do with it..
Blackmailing an ex partner like that is unforgivable but these two young men did not deserve such a violent and fatal response. Yet another example of reacting without thinking of the possible consequences. Sad and pointless all round.
@@melonmelon7427that’s still an ex partner. Partner has multiple meanings especially with context and the man she was having the affair with would be an ex sexual partner
@@bayoe-emmanuel6610 most people consider a partner someone you are with in a partnership with serious stakes like kids and a place and shared pets. thats not an ex partner. the news wouldnt mess that up even lol. at least not in the west. also to retro...i dont feel bad for the men at all. these dudes are bullies and many of you dont understand this. these men could have scammed random people or even physically taken from other men. they were cowards and instead chose to not only steal from people who likely wouldnt physically harm them, they chose women, but also chose someone who he had had intimate moments with which is scummy as fuck. play stupid games.....
@@lowlowseesee they would still call them an ex partner. There are many news articles(English speaking) that do it as they were in a relationship, whether the relationship is sexual, romantic, marriage or even professional. Most wouldn’t blink an eye at the use of it because the idea of a partner changes and is interchangeable depending on the context of the people you’re talking about.
Like my parents always tell me, “the truth always comes out. It’s up to you to figure out which side to be on it”. They wanted him gone to preserve her mother’s “innocence”, only for it all to come out worse than if she just told the police.
@@ijustneedmyself The mother probably had an abus!ve husband, that is why she felt cornered by the blackmail and forced to turn to her daughter and her friends for help.
They also wanted him gone because he was blackmailing her for money, under threat of exposing the relationship AND SENDING EVERYONE NUDE PICTURES OF HER. *What kind of person does that???* The only possibly innocent person in this whole mess was his friend who died. But who knows what the friend actually knew. This is why you choose your friends and relationships with care, and don't do shady things with shady people. Don't go around having affairs with married people, esp ones you know nothing about. Don't go around blackmailing those people if they end it. Don't go around having affairs with young guys/girls you meet on the internet and know nothing about. Seriously, just put yourselves in "that poor young man's shoes", he wooed an older married woman online, then blackmailed her for $$ with the threat of telling her husband about it AND SENDING OUT HER NUDES TO EVERYONE. We subconsciously choose to think of only the good qualities of anyone who dies, without ever saying the bad. Like Tony Soprano's mom "that man was an angel!" after years of her abusing him for every little thing he did.
@@nardip4999 people act like he was the victim and everyone else was the perpetrator.. but he was a perpetrator too. Threatening to expose the affair AND PICS OF HER NUDE if she didn't give him money. Say she did pay him, what's to stop him from asking for more and more later on? If she went to the cops she'd have to testify in open court, and he'd likely release those images out of spite too.. This is why nobody should go around being a despicable excuse for a human being. It could end up with them being dead.
When multiple people plan a homicide, I do not understand why even one person in the group wasn't reasonable enough to suggest that it is not a good idea.
Unless it's been confirmed but left out of the video we can't say there were plans of taking his life, more likely in my book the plan was to scare and ior rough him up to let him know going through with there would be consequences if he went through with the blackmail. Still a valid point though. When several people get involved you push each other and no one wants to be seen as cowardly or turning their back in friends and family.. Humans in groups can get very irrational and frightening very quickly..
They were going to beat him up so he'd stop the blackmail. It was a car accident, not a murder. They should've got a few years in jail.........not life. Remember to never ever blackmail someone
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 To the brainless and heartless feminists and their simps here, do this litmus test for your hypocrisy. Would you justify if the roles were reversed? If the woman was the blackmailer, would you sympathize with her male killer the same way that you do now?
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 it was definitely not a "car accident".. Regardless of original intent, once the chase was on and they were actively hitting the other car at speeds like that, they were 100% responsible for anything that followed. Given we can be reasonably certain that their plans involved harming him in some way, the fact they chased them down like that at risk to themselves and innocent bystanders even, it feels like they were intending to kill at that point. They were trying to cause a crash and any reasonable person is aware that the outcome was far more likely to be death than bumps and bruises and a good scare. They'll likely get paroled at some point but until that, they deserve every second they spend in prison, this was callous and intentional murder. At least of the intended target, at least intentional manslaughter of the friend
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 never blackmail someone, I agree. In addition to that tho, never fuck someone behind your spouses back if you aren't prepared for the risk of them finding out and the consequences thereof. Or send naked pictures of yourself unless accepting the risk they could end up being spread even without the recipient ever intending for any such thing to happen or causing it in any way.
Natasha Akhtar, one of the 3 who received a manslaughter charge was a 3rd year law student. Wouldn’t she have the most common sense out of the bunch to realise what they were doing was wrong?. But it also highlights that life is so fast paced and that the ability to stop and think clearly is rare and a valuable skill.
Not a brain between them all - even if it went to plan the meeting was arranged to attack someone in a public tesco car park, full cctv coverage and all cars fully registered to the them, all with their mobile phones ect
Natasha the ex-law student's career is finished. She should have known better, but when you are involved with the riffraff friend circle, this is what you get.
The true person was the mother a 41 year old mother. Don’t cheat for 3 years… or if you do and someone is trying to black mail you, do NOT ask your daughter. Just tell your husband, that way you can’t be blackmailed, and go to the police. And don’t forget to no cheat again and don’t pretend you are a teenager. I can’t believe they let their daughter stop her university
