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The Times Crossword Friday Masterclass: 19 July 2024

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@annastevenson27 Месяц назад

My favourite comments: 1) "Hang on, I have to deal with the teaification of my phone." 2) And on finishing the Times Quick Cryptic in 3mins 28 secs, "It's depressing, quite frankly."

@Anne_Mahoney Месяц назад

It didn't look like the de-teaification was especially efficacious -- Simon just gave it a quick shake. I hope the phone survives. 😸

@walterxplinge3867 Месяц назад

Yogi Berra came out with some notable quotations. One of my favourites is "It's deja vu all over again"

@amoswittenbergsmusings Месяц назад

Predictions are difficult, especially about the future. No one goes there anymore; it is far too busy.

@amoswittenbergsmusings Месяц назад

Just checked. The first quote is from Niels Bohr!

@danielmarkelon7807 Месяц назад

he never said most of the things he said.

@angec9908 Месяц назад

Some of my faves: "The future ain't what it used to be." "When you come to a fork in the road, take it."

@mikeking1163 Месяц назад

23A "American behind" = back end of American = CAN 🙂

@KingdomCome811 Месяц назад

One of my favourite weekly videos, great to see the quick cryptic done quickly.

@JyotiDas-72 Месяц назад

Re: “news” becoming nn, I interpret this as coming from the convention that doubling a letter of an abbreviation indicates plural, e.g. p for page, pp for pages, l for line, ll for lines, etc. It’s originally from Latin and has influenced most languages that Latin has influenced, and I believe is a generally applicable convention even if the abbreviation nn isn’t routinely used

@peterbiddlecombe1939 Месяц назад

I think the idea is that if one new is "n", it makes enough sense for "news" to indicate nn (or even nnn if there are words containing it). Some think that's OK and some don't. (I can't think of anything that belongs to the "etc" after ll and pp.)

@milesrout Месяц назад

@@peterbiddlecombe1939sections = ss.

@B1GB1RDB4G3L Месяц назад

WOOOO CRYPTIC CROSSWORD DAY

@ServantOfSatania Месяц назад

Plural abbreviation schism, the most contentious issue in the Cryptic Crosswordland

@bhz919 Месяц назад

Just wanted to say thank you. Since I stumbled across your channel I have started to attempt the Telegraph cryptic each day (with varied success), but so far my best streak is 3 days. So again thank you for igniting my curiosity.

@cloudbringer104 Месяц назад

Simon, thank you. I'm lying in bed with covid. I've been to ill to watch your last 3 sudoku's. Which I'll watch when I can concentrate more. I hope they are easy one's. Thanks for all you do x

@longwaytotipperary Месяц назад

Get better soon!!! 🎈

@cloudbringer104 Месяц назад

@@longwaytotipperary Thank you x

@sue3458 Месяц назад

22a - I thought it was IN for current (i.e. in vogue) and then N for news

@icecreamandsadness Месяц назад

This is what I thought too

@missioncardiac7599 Месяц назад

Great solve as always, and very entertaining. Highlight of my Friday/Saturday morning. Got a few points today; somehow knowing Urtext and Il Penseroso. Current news could be IN N. In as in "in fashion/current".

@longwaytotipperary Месяц назад

Good morning! Happy Friday!! I enjoy both the long version where Simon explains his logic and chats with us, and the quick version where his brain leads the way.

@davidrattner9 Месяц назад

His brain is far and away ahead of us leading the way. 😁

@longwaytotipperary Месяц назад

@@davidrattner9 absolutely!! 😁

@TheQuert678 Месяц назад

Ur is a common german prefix meaning very old or original

@AtoZTrivia 14 дней назад

Top solving, thank you for the cryptic help 👍👍

@timshaw9627 Месяц назад

"News" gets frowned on because Collins doesn't support it, whereas "Lines" is in Collins. Both appear here and in the Guardian and Telegraph fairly frequently. I think if the wordplay works and the solver has a fair chance, have at it.

@jarvisa12345 Месяц назад

24:21 I interpret this as current = IN and news = N

@jasminmai3528 Месяц назад

Yes please, more cryptics!

@fatha2092 Месяц назад

I think for 22 across the Yogi Berra is correct and behind America is Canada, which shorten it to Can, and Canberra is the capital city of Australia

@dibbydoda Месяц назад

@@fatha2092 it's simpler than that. The clue is American, the 'behind' of that word, is the last three letters CAN

@alanward4346 Месяц назад

Always a treat!

@fredrikwidlund4945 Месяц назад

As many others this is the video of the week I am looking forward to. Both to see the explanation of the clues and also when you have tried the puzzle yourself. These videos inspire me so much. It actually made me construct my very own first cryptic crossword some months ago. I will very likely start to work on another cryptic myself. Keep up the fantastic work with these videos, please.

@MissMaraJoy Месяц назад

23:10 the appearance of URTEXT in this puzzle is so bizarre!! I *only* know the word because I used it to write my own cryptic clue like last year (2nd clue I've ever written, so it's pretty simple :-) Guide to Urtext containing deviation (6)

@Prazzie Месяц назад

Absolutely love these Friday cryptic videos. Wouldn't mind watching daily cryptic solves too, even if they're only the QC without explanation.

@mathematicskid Месяц назад

also I will forever support your cryptic crossword videos

@milesrout Месяц назад

"news" as nn is consistent with "sections" being abbreviated to ss, pages to pp, etc. it is a general rule in English that you can double a single letter abbreviation to pluralise it.

@altreusplays Месяц назад

Interpreting "news" as "more than one new" seems perfectly cromulent to me

@angec9908 Месяц назад

I need to use cromulent in conversation today

@davidfranklin5426 Месяц назад

I’ve known the word Ur-text for years but always assumed the etymology had to do with the ancient Mesopotamian city of Ur!

@andrewgrant6516 Месяц назад

Screenplay for a caveman, originally. (6)

@Anne_Mahoney Месяц назад

The word is quite common in my area, though Anglophone scholars will also say "archetype." In classics we deal with texts that have gone through dozens of generations of copying by hand. Sophocles writes "Antigone" and gives copies of the script to his actors. After the show, their friends borrow the script and make their own copies, then the next circle of friends gets in on it, and so on -- all the way down to the development of the printing press in the west. All those people making copies are humans and they make mistakes. All the copies we have of "Antigone" date from hundreds of years after Sophocles died, so you can imagine how many mistakes have crept in. There's a whole sub-discipline within classics (and other literary studies of course) working on un-doing those mistakes to get back to the archetype or Urtext, parent of all the existing copies. I also know the term from (classical/concert) music, where an Urtext edition just contains what the composer wrote, but you can also get more or less heavily edited editions with notes about expression or technique -- useful for getting started with a new piece.

@rscotthalls Месяц назад

I love these weekly videos, I always learn something. Thank you so much for doing them

@d4r4butler74 Месяц назад

I always look forwards to the Crossword videos. And I always learn something new (or maybe the same thing over and over again?).

@user-py8kl5gh2q Месяц назад

There is definitely an audience for these videos!!! Please carry on making them!

@user-og4le9tq4l Месяц назад

Isn't "American behind" just the end of the word "American"?

@limegreenelevator Месяц назад

In this case I think it refers to "can" being US slang for one's butt.

@creaghant Месяц назад

Great solve Simon - my favourite clue was 10 across - I would never have understood that one, without your explanation. As always, I learn so much from these masterclasses - Thank you. and your solve of the quick was fantastic - my times on the quick as getting a lot better 👍

@peterbiddlecombe1939 Месяц назад

Historical snippet: "Part of a Milton title" was a clue to PENSEROSO in Times Crossword No 1, back in 1930.

@DaShikuXI Месяц назад

Would it not make more sense that current = 'in', and news is just one 'n'?

@elizabethL8n Месяц назад

Love these solves - please continue them!!! Amazing!

@debrabowen4276 Месяц назад

I look forward to the Friday cryptic crossword every week. Such a great way to start my weekend!

@xildinoth5707 Месяц назад

I was JUST about to look for last week's and saw this pop up x) good morning Simon😊

@MarcMcMillin Месяц назад

Yes, it's Friday!

@adrever1986 Месяц назад

These videos provide invaluable instruction in crosswordese. I can't believe I didn't know Henry = H before!

@philipbrooks402 Месяц назад

Once again, many thanks for the time and effort you put in.

@MattyBGAMINGUK Месяц назад

Urtext I did know as I buy urtext editions of sheet music

@bristolrovers27 Месяц назад

Brilliant video, keep them coming, RU-vid highlight of the week

@Astervista Месяц назад

For 22A, couldn’t it be current = IN (as in fashionable) and news = N, instead of I + NN? It would be less controversial for the news = double new = NN

@thescrewfly Месяц назад

That does make more sense.

@mikechappell5849 Месяц назад

no, because n only stands for new, not news

@Astervista Месяц назад

@@mikechappell5849 i don't know, I have seen some channels using N as an abbreviation for news, first of all ITN. I don't have Chambers to check though, just going by logic

@mikechappell5849 Месяц назад

@@Astervista don't think it's in Chambers

@leehazell7633 Месяц назад

Lovely stuff 😊

@nsrikand1 Месяц назад

Excellent, Simon!! Thanks!

@vinyl1Earthlink Месяц назад

The puzzle is much easier if you've heard of urtext and read Il Penseroso in grad school.

@annastevenson27 Месяц назад

🤣🤣

@jufriol8733 Месяц назад

Happy Friday everyone

@mjkluck Месяц назад

Loved it. Keep 'em coming.

@dibbydoda Месяц назад

For 23 across, I interpreted it as referring to the 'behind' of the word American, ie the letters CAN.

@mbstart Месяц назад

The fun is watching an expert solver solve a very hard puzzle. I have watched all these master classes and enjoy them a lot. BUT if this was really about tuition and guidance, Simon would pick an easier cryptic to solve. Its rather like teaching maths by starting off with calculus. yes, I know the basics are the same.

@archivist17 Месяц назад

Skinny is also a colloquial synonym for news.

@DarrenNakamura Месяц назад

Definitely keep these videos going! I can solve a lot of logic puzzles now without watching the videos, but I'm still pretty baffled by cryptics.

@danjones9224 Месяц назад

Lovely stuff Simon.

@archivist17 Месяц назад

'Ur-' is originally a German prefix meaning original. In camera snob circles, the Ur-Leica is revered

@bluerizlagirl Месяц назад

16:29 "In commission" being the opposite of "out of commission" as in "not working" ..... it just does not seem to get used anything like as often as its opposite. At least, not in general -- although maybe there are fields where it is less rare.

@mikeking1163 Месяц назад

22A - Current (IN) news (N) surrounded by SKY 🙂

@davidrattner9 Месяц назад

Welcome to beautiful Friday where Simon continues to provide us with his masterful solving of cryptics.

@PassionPopsicle Месяц назад

I'm watching outside, and I keep trying to tilt my phone, to get the sun out of Simon's eyes 😂

@tomaltmann9483 Месяц назад

22 across, SKY surrounds IN for current, and then N for need...

@archivist17 Месяц назад

28:00 I would not have guessed that Simon knew two rap artists! 😂

@icecreamandsadness Месяц назад

I've just learned that Henry is an SI unit. How ridiculous! 😂

@billsimoni Месяц назад

Dr Dre actually did have a song called Rat-tat-tat. 😂

@Illithien Месяц назад

Hmm... news ends up being nn, but runs ends up being a single r... I'll never be able to do these myself.

@ryanbing-ez5eh Месяц назад

a comment for the algo! thanks again simon

@mikeking1163 Месяц назад

19D Wittered on = BABBLED so now you can move the L up for BLABBED :-)

@etienneschramm83 Месяц назад

As I understand the clue, "news" counts for 1 "N", and "current" codes "IN"

@Ruddigore Месяц назад

The dictionary helped you to dodge a bullet today. 😁

@BenWKnowles Месяц назад

Nails the quick one in 3.5 minutes and apologies for how long it took… meanwhile I take longer than that on one clue 😂

@manjus3 Месяц назад

Regarding 22 across, could it be this way - "current" = in, and "news" = n. So we have "inn" inside "sky"?

@MattSwain1 Месяц назад

I suppose the argument against news = nn might be the inconsistency that it brings because Friends of Winnie runs round and round should therefore be rroo not just roo! Personally I’m not going lose sleep over it, just note it among the many gotchas to watch out for 😊

@christhecyclist5998 Месяц назад

The R on a cricket score sheet only very occasionally refers to a single run.

@johnm2012 Месяц назад

24:13 Is that a subliminal plug for Sky from The Times?

@otterotterottercid Месяц назад

totally random question.. but who says their toasts AFTER a dinner? haha

@mikechappell5849 Месяц назад

I thought that was the usual time

@jeremydavis3631 Месяц назад

My first thought when seeing "current news" becoming "inn" was that "current" was cluing "in" (e.g. current fashion). Is "n" a valid abbreviation for "news"?

@mathematicskid Месяц назад

36:15 where does the "or" come from? Can somebody explain

@stevehill6263 Месяц назад

How are you supposed to know which word(s) the anagram indicator is pointing to? I always struggle with this

@ConManAU 22 дня назад

Watching this three weeks late from the city of Canberra, I’m only a little sad Simon wasn’t sure how to spell it.

@BryanLu0 Месяц назад

From the quick cryptic Place of great beauty, old and new, exotic, welcoming King Place of great beauty (Wonderland) old and new (just the letters) exotic (anagram) welcoming King (R for rex)

@thescrewfly Месяц назад

Never heard an educated English person pronounce the "h" in heir before. I'm still coming to terms with non-northerners calling that letter "haitch", but the world is changing I suppose...

@mikechappell5849 Месяц назад

I think that's just a Simon thing, I've never heard anyone else say it like that

@Anne_Mahoney Месяц назад

Simon has also been heard to say "herb" with an "h" sound, FWIW.

@mikechappell5849 Месяц назад

@@Anne_Mahoney everyone in Britain says herb with an h sound

@thescrewfly Месяц назад

@@Anne_Mahoney Herb with an audiblle aitch is the standard British pronunciation.

@Anne_Mahoney Месяц назад

@@mikechappell5849 Fair enough -- I guess I'd never noticed that. You'd think I would have heard the word on Great British Baking Show or something!

@andrewgrant6516 Месяц назад

I just went with current news = what's the skinny?

@filkube8540 Месяц назад

Some of the quick cryptics i can't decipher? Daily fare in legislature - - i get the literal def but not the cryptic Fellow, international player, embracing Henry - - in what way does international player = cap? Enthusiastic European person (strong) that is not heartless - - European = E, strong = bull? But the end of the word eludes me. In centre, gorgeous small sign -- 😅 I'm lost completely on the cryptic

@Gorm169 Месяц назад

An player's appearance at an international game is called a "cap" (see Wikipedia for "Cap (Sport)"). For the third one: "that is" = IE (common abbreviation, from Latin "id est") "not heartless" =NT ("not" without its central letter) Last one: "In centre, gorgeous" = GE (central letters of "gorGEous", I think) "small" = MINI

@filkube8540 Месяц назад

@@Gorm169 thank you so much!

@charliejoseph6465 Месяц назад

I accept your apology for only being the sixth best in the world at that puzzle.

@VonBlade Месяц назад

41:30 Yes you're right. Canberra. Yogi Berra a famous baseball catcher and person to whom many witty comments have been ascribed. And the Yanks can call your backside your can. Plus Canberra is a capital city. Australia.

@VonBlade Месяц назад

Don't ever apologise for completing in 210 seconds something I'd spend half an hour on, without the pressure of live recording and explaining either.

@user-ek4cf9qd8u Месяц назад

Capital city of Australia is CANberra. At the time, its location was selected as halfway between Melbourne and Sydney. 😊

@B1GB1RDB4G3L Месяц назад

Maybe you need to try more unique video titles to please the algorithm? Like your Sudoku videos?

@williambarnes3868 Месяц назад

Simon, you need to brush up on Capital cities and American slang! I rather think your Australian viewers will be less than impressed!

@AO968 Месяц назад

He may have gotten duped by the slang one, though. Someone suggested that he should have cut up the word "American" to leave only its "behind" (aka the last few letters), which form the word "can".

@BryanLu0 Месяц назад

@@AO968Simon has said in previous videos that usually beginning or end only allows one letter

@AO968 Месяц назад

@@BryanLu0 Usually doesn't mean always. Sometimes, the setters like to throw you for a loop and slightly mix things up.

@filkube8540 Месяц назад

Nah it's chill. We pronounce Canberra as "cambra" so I get it.