Half of this top 10 is about SKT's opponents having to be creative to defeat SKT. (the other half is about TSM's opponnents trolling them and winning anyway)
ItsMorphinTime1518 Tbh on the second point, TSM is extremely reactive on their game plans (look up how TSM coaches make all players keep track of their mistakes during games, so players are afraid to take risks and make pro active plays). Since TSM plays so passive and rigid, wildcard strats work really well on them because they are so used to playing the passive game, and just let the strats take over.
I laughed when he called TSM one of na's titans, they are inconsistent beyond all belief and have never been close to titan position outside maybe season 2
I think you missed why the Leona pick was so insane. Yes the rune choice was wild but it was also in the ardent meta where people thought you could only play ardent supports. They decided to move the ardent builder into the jungler with Ivern so they would run Leona bot lane.
I think they already documented that in another video(or a partner of game leap) that's why they didn't mentioned it because it's just going to be redundant at least thats what i think
well vayne is THE anti-tank champion of the game and he was facing Sion top, Galio mid and Alistar Supp, so even if uncomon, it's not that much of a troll pick, if the team want to be super tanky and let their adc deal tons of damage, if you have a tank piercer you can stop that strat !
"Look at the cleanse, look at the moves! FAKER, WHAT WAS THAT!? " "PEKE DOES IT! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!" "KaBuM are DESTROYING Alliance!" "And the faithful shall be rewarded!" There are many lines that are more iconic.
It wasn't Faker that crumbled, it was his teammates. They had very poor decision making on the early stages. The teleport by Marin into the bottom lane, knowing that 4 members are coming, Wolf coming to to help Marin(which is dead for sure) and many more. Early game leads are what killed them.
@@chupasaurus solo bot urgot was a coolest thing. legends say that Genja was trying to dodge a soloq game and left with locked urgot. Urgot turned out to be strong enough to beat duolanes.
I feel like you missed the reason why the pyke was so insane on G2 : They literally played him at any role, not only support or top. Also, would have loved to see the Levi nocturne funneling strat and a honorable to all the old UOL drafts, with shacos, poppys and udyrs being thrown in.
I'm a little sad to not see the Nocturne exp funneling strat Levi used at worlds. That was an amazing strat and honestly the precursor to funneling. I mean who expects a nocturne ult at 6 mins?
There was funnelling in pro games like 5 months before levi and his team did that at worlds. it honestly wasn't that insane of a strategy. a good one? Sure. but an INSANE one? Nope.
I had the chance to witness MF support in person and that made the entire thing worth it. The crowd was going NUTS as soon as he locked it and every time he made a play the whole arena erupted. Didn't know that I was gonna be witnessing essentially one of the greatest best of 5s (if not the greatest) in league history.
Yup. I've been to league events since season 2 and nothing has compared to that moment with that mix of excitement and confusion. Easily the best Bo5 I've ever watched.
The smite Heimer with Blitz/Cait mid and the solo Olaf was a master class in cheese. Cj Entus was still able to make a couple plays but they never got a look at anything but a couple kills.
yeah and if you look at the stats at 16:02 it doesn't seem like they lost because faker couldn't do anything with that lb... He is the only one with good stats, he had 2 of his teams 25 deaths...
Yeah the whole video looks like it was pretty rushed, with no explanation whatsoever. They didn't explain the "funneling gold to one champion strat", yes they showed 3 secs of Taric + Yii jungle which was the birth of this strat and the bane of soloQ for some time but they didn't explain shit about why it is so powerfull and how it works. They also showed Khalista top as it was something no one did. Every cheeser toplane in soloQ play Khalista/Vayne/Quinn top in order to outrange their opponent, what was special is that a purely SoloQ strat worked in competitive league and they didn't even explained that... For someone that doesn't play the game, this video is incomprehensible and lacks informations.
Ok, so Maokai prevents faker from being within 525 units of his fatass because Mao cc outright counters leblanc's distortion return move as he intangibly follows and cc locks her down regardless of where she goes. After that, the comp can cc chain off of maokai well with long-range morg q and also morg aoe r (625 range) to force leblanc to move (especially good on defense as leblanc is assassin). Their adc is sivir which stops more than half of leblanc's damage (in a frantic burst) as her spellshield can stop LB's q empowered trigger and another damaging ability at the same time eating it. Morgana also prevents some more burst with black shield and can ensure maokai/ali isn't cc'd, to confirmed cc the LB. Ali also can break off of cc with his r to ensure leblanc stays cc'd as well. All of this is important because a lot of LB's damage is close up from her distortion if she wants a oneshot without missing chains (compared to other mages). Sivir also gives huge team speed up on r to make playing around (even chasing after) distortion even easier but that's just icing. I don't think Eve adds too much there but she does have sneaky burst which makes LB more scared off cc.
@@vageera218 Funny thing is that game he was craps, he fed in lane. His team basically carried his ass 4v5 until very late game where Vayne just auto wins against tanks anyways
"for reasons no one can explain, caps picked vayne" dude thescore i love you guys. but its obvious that it shits on a tank that specializes in neutralizing magic damage and stacks hp items. even a bronze v player could figure that out.
I dont know why in their mind anyone would think it's a "troll pick". Nowadays there's so much ADC played toplane that it wasnt anything surprising. Just next ADC added to the list of Lucian, Vayne etc. If they wanted to add something recent from toplane, Soraka would be better. I remember when Wunder picked her in season 9 everyone was talking how "competition in EU is so bad that he can pick such trash champs and win" and suddenly half a year later people realized this shit is atually OP and everyone started playing it.
Kalista solo lane isn't even a new pick. There is a Korean one trick that played primarily Kalista mid for over a year on a high level. Korean players are just really slow in picking up new things or experimenting, so it took some time until someone (in this case the Shy in China) had the balls to actually try it and see how it went.
I’m here just looking for the GAM’s Nocturne at Worlds 2017. The lane swap, the duo jungle, off-meta nocturne got his lv6 after 5 minutes. Everything is just INSANE.
Haha true. Shows just how much teams fear SKT they pull out their cheese strats for them. Also cheese strats mainly come out in international events that teams are saving them for and who goes to more international events than SKT.
remember when faker picked olaf mid to counter irelia mid back in like season 6. neither champ ever had been mid before and faker first blooded irelia at lvl 1 lmfao
"Faker crumbled..." jesus what??? skt's botlane played like dogsht, actually everyone played like dogsht except Faker, but it's still his fault? Great script score esports.
They twisted reality to fit their narrative, like the Teemo pick actually served no purpose and wasn't OP at all in the patch but hey you gotta do you what you gotta do to rack up these noice views.
@@PeaneutzTV They just didn't highlight why the Teemo was oppressive. He was strong because of his shrooms, which forced TSM off objectives and into their own base, because if they walked out and got shroomed they would lose half their HP. Teemo was nerfed the following patch I believe. Be real yourself.
so u telling me that EDG comp was targeting faker. even edg said it was design for faker and they think faker will pick lebanc one game. and when it was game 5 they let it out. fakers lebanc was 100% winrate at that time.
Heya, you've got an error, Sona-Taric was invented by EUW players Schuhbart and Calmsky. I'd link to the reddit thread they made way back, but I don't know if youtube comments filter links.
I couldn’t believe UoL’s Yorick + Cassiopeia S5 against FNC wasn’t on here. I never even dreamed of that comp but they blew FNC out of the water. One of my favorite games to rewatch.
KT was already losing that game hard. Faker styling on Ryu was just the icing on the cake. Meanwhile, Hai was getting dumped on by bjerg and the game was going 50/50 between C9 and TSM. That game was totally winnable by TSM but they lost.
@@zenon351 That's facts, even though Ryu must be haunted by that 1v1 till this day and it might not be the same case for TSM, but yeah, you are right my dude
thats the problem he did prolly the best he could but against that comp he cant really do much so i think they counterd him but if his team would have played decent they could have won this game
Lot of inaccuracies, embelishment and bending of facts just to fit the narrative on this video. Rather disappointed. #10 teemo was not op that patch. Hai just tried out teemo mid because he wanted to try a strat used by a challenger teemo OTP named mahcash$, where he uses shrooms instead of wards for vision and zone control even if the champ himself was useless in that level of play. He mentioned it in the post game lobby as well. #6 the vayne mid by caps actually didn't work. He died 4 times throughout the game and had no map pressure at all, his team had to 4v5 while he farmed up from the deficit. The only reason it paid off was in the last team fight since msf had drafted 4 tanks and 1 dmg, caps was finally able to dive in and assassinate the adc before dying himself. #2 syndra bot wasn't really 'insane', since that year saw a lot of mages play bot. It was even more expected since perkz was a mid who had just swapped to adc that year. The pyke was also quite popularly flexed to solo lanes that year by many other teams. The really 'insane' part of that strat was combining those 2 with a Lissandra mid for huge aoe dmg and slow from her exploding ice zombie passive. Apick that caps usually never plays. #1 By the time EDG finally managed a shut down on faker (which was the sole purpose of their whole comp) he was already 3/0/3.. lol. So the strat decidedly didn't work. The reason they won that game was because of the crazy amount of crowd control they had which led to SKT's bot lane getting owned instead. Also.. LeBlanc being nigh unkillable and still getting kills vs a team designed only to negate you = 'crumbled'..? *Slow claps*
Aceinine yeah I’m only at #9 and was surprised to see kalista since I’m pretty sure kalista top was played in the past and now it’s being said that recently was the first time. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure kalista top isn’t as surprising as he was trying to make it seem
Pyke wasnt played by aby team in pro play on mid or top. There were some people who tried it in soloq but it wasnt popular at all. 90% of people was like "wtf" when Wunder pulled it off. People knew Syndra can be played bot but she became popular AFTER Perkz picked it here.
@@L608-u7n And? Everyone plays everything in soloq. You will probably find even some top Yuumi high elo one tricks, but that doesnt change a fact Pyke was never played by any team mid or top until G2 did it, so OP is obviously wrong. And even after them I think there might be only few instances of Pyke solo lane later. Maybe I shouldnt used phrase "wasnt popular at all" since there were of course people who played it, but it wasnt popular or successful enough in high elo for anyone to even think about using it top in pro play until G2 did it
If i don't see some old UOL stuff like "old poppy vs mundo" or "jungle on hit twisted fate" i'm going to be extremely disappointed. Edit: i'm proud of you
I am really sad that they didn't actually highlighted why TF was such a great idea. Xerath at the time was hard counter to twisted fate, so UoL baited Bjergsen into picking Xerath so they picked LeBlanc against which Xerath is pretty much useless, because nobody expected him at a different position.
You missed a big one, i think it was in the Finals of Season 2. Urgot Adc solo laner vs Jana and Corki bot, plus Shaco and Alistar jungle. Urgot dominated the lane 1v2. It was an amazing game.
Good idea for a video, and I agree with all the choices, overall ! But it would have been better if you had quickly explained for every strat. TF especially would have been good to know. Some explanations that were lacking, imo : - Teemo allowed C9 to control an entire half of the map while they were pressuring the rest. It definitely was not OP, proof is that Teemo never appeared again and kinda sucked in this game too. That's also why it was a "one time" strategy: once you understand that, it's easy to counter at their level. - The idea of Pyke solo lane is that he can sustain easily the pressure with his regen and, no matter how bad your laning phase is, his ultimate gives so much gold that you'll come back in mid game. It wasn't a especially a "comfort pick". Also, your choice for "best insane strat ever" is to put a mid laner in a mid lane? I get that it was risky strat to let Faker picks LB, especially in the 2-2 MSI finals context. But 1st place... ? Well, I guess everyone has its own view on what is an "insane strat"! The most important is that the 10 choices are good !
Literally shows caps explaining that vayne will be good vs 4 tanks: *and noone could explain why he picked vayne till this day, such a trollpick should get demolished by other midlaners*
Crazy to watch this older gameplay with so much less healing it's insane. No healthbars suddenly spiking back to full, no ADCs pumping their little cringebow bicycle pumps, crazy shit.
The very second a meta becomes established is the same second in which the counter meta is also born. This works by definition of how metas work, as they themselves are counters to the current most typical play styles. It takes a certain intelligence and knowledge of the game to identify these things, but it’s fucking glorious when somebody does.
It ain't garbage, as it was a Game 5. Faker had a 100% win rate with LB which was pretty OP back then. So what they did was counter Faker. At that time, he was all over the place. If you hunt him down, SKT are lost. That's what they've changed later on. Khan was given so many opportunities, Teddy is now carrying hard too.
he didn't even try to explain how these off meta picks worked with the current meta. Very informative and professional video, nice work theScore esports🙂👍
2 out of 10 of these aren't strats there just off picks 1 is about picking a rune what a joke most of them are just champions being used in a different position like there was only 1 strat and that was the gold funnel mention
Two points: 1. No Garen/Yuumi botlane mention (Fnatic). 2. The Turkish League is often regarded as the popularizer of the Sona/Taric botlane (and it appeared there in pro play even before TSM Academy played it).
There was a game where they basically went all mid with a hard siege comp when the enemy team had poor wave clear. I was pretty sure it was anchored by a Heimerdinger mid, but I'm having a hell of a time finding it. I was kind of expecting to see it here.
2:08 "most embarrassing loss" i think SKT's 16 minute loss to iG at MSI 2019 might disagree with you there And I think it's really interesting that more than 1 of these stats have been from teams with PowerOfEvil on them, but not by PoE himself. At his best, he's so stable that his team can get away with all kinds of shenanigans. 15:36 "Faker crumbled" he ended the game 4/2/3 and had the most CS in the game. That L was NOT on Faker by any means lmao
8:36 sona taric technically wasn't popularized by TSMA. it was a bot lane boosting strat which was first started seeing in EUW soloq. the LEC pro teams catched up on to it and then abused it on stage on how broken it was.
Old School M5 comes to mind. Diamondprox making counter-jungling mainstream and Darien picking pushing champs then invading the jungle and stealing camps.
The Froggen Bot Blitzcrank and Krepo Mid Anivia lane/role swap Gamit vs EG was a nice change of pace when pretty sure all EG games at the time if i remeber right where drawn out snoozefests
when Bard released and everyone thought he was troll and then Aphromoo abused him in one professional game and everyone realized how good Bard actually is.
I think they missed a candidate for #1 : the "blue Ezreal" Ezreal used to be a bot lane adc or a mid lane burst mage until TPA started playing comps like Ezreal+Sona duo mid with Janna solo bot. Instead of building an adc, they played the Ezreal with a jungle item?! And with tear of the goddess and iceborn gauntlet, (an armor item). And just moved their duo lane to mid. Also, the meta was very teamfight-focused but with this strategy, they avoided teamfights completely and just kited, disengaged or sieged. These tactics weren't anything like the meta. TPA had huge success with it and their Ezreal build became extremely popular. As far as I remember, they were also probably the first ones to establish the squishy support solo lanes when they did this, because champs like Janna, with their disengages, were able to survive a 1v2 bot lane. TPA's blue Ezreal had SO much impact on league, it re-shaped the champion they were playing. Up to this day, Ezreal is a carry that uses tear/manamune and commonly runs iceborn gauntlet. He is now played for kiting and max CDR. Riot had to nerf the jungle item that Ezreal was building because it was overpowered on him (and eventually reworked their jungle items completely and made them exclusive to champions with smite). Actually, Manamune became a relevant item for ADCs, it's now even popular with carries like Kai'Sa and Twitch. I don't think the item would've evolved that way if TPA hadn't brought it to ADCs. And the solo-support style was eventually picked up by other teams when abusable support items were introduced and has been haunting league for a long time, ( especially looking at you, Soraka top!). Some of the showcased builds were not too special at all. Morgana mid to counterpick LeBlanc? That used to be a standard pick back then because Morgana would be rather unkillable and could waveclear better than LeBlanc, so LeBlanc just couldn't snowball. Morgana's spellvamp in combination with her W waveclear made this a common approach. They just didn't ban LeBlanc. Big deal? The weird blue Ezreal, however, that was either loved or hated by everyone and forced nerfs and everything? That was big. And there were other impactful, weird strategies that come to mind. Like the Taric+Yi funnel that was nerfed again and again. Or maybe no-adc tactics around ap carries like Heimerdinger or Ziggs, simply because it was a move outside of the meta, (talk about funneling your gold to the adc, eh?). So I don't see why stories like "someone picked Teemo" or "they didn't ban LeBlanc" made it into a top 10 list. Imho that isn't very special, we've seen crazier plays. Actually, many of those tactics , like "Kalista top" against a tank, were previously being played in solo queue and elsewhere, weren't they? That was just the first time that it made the gap to professional play, which may be daring but not completely unexpected. It's just a change of positions for one character. Funneling all your gold to the adc when the rest of your team is 3 tanks and an enchanter support? Seems like the only sane thing to do when it's your only source of DPS and the win condition you want to play around. Compared to weird all-new tactics like the blue Ezreal approach, I think much of that list seems just "meh" or anything but insane.
I still remember that 5 game series between SKT and EDG. That year Pawn went crazy and actually outplayed Faker soo many times. But that LeBlanc counter comp was nasty.
there was a kalista one trick in korean challenger who played her mid for the past 3ish years. theshy faced up against him when he got autofilled mid when the dude got autofilled top and theshy tilted his face off
7:04 For reasons no one could explain Caps: its trundle vayne Dylan:you'll have a tank with million armor Caps:and he will die instantly from my w, we're going vayne btw
I'm pretty disappointed Vizicsacsis Poppy pick against Millenium in the EU LCS promotional tournament didn't make the list. It single handedly turned the tides to UOLs favor and they bounced back from a 0-2 deficit to win the series.
I remember top 2 stunned the entire world with that pick. I fell in love with that underdog team, the ROX Tigers and years ago with Unicorns Of Love with Power OF Evil in the midlane, classic teams. There's so much history already in LoL and now i realise how magic it is to revive these type of moments. If only Rox tigers had won that bo5 i would havebeen very happy back then.
I find mindblowing that fnc vayne mid strat "get 6k gold behind and hope ur opponent fuck up" is in the list and the nocturne funnel in 2017 wolrds isn't. That match is not just an upset. GAM legit won playing kassadin mid, no flash lulu support and basically galio and nocturne jungle with noc ulting botlane at 5:20. For me that was the wildest thing I have ever seen in a competitive match. This shit is beyond an unexpected counterpick, this shit is legit
