The Top 10 Most Ridiculous MPAA Ratings!

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I count down the MPAA movie ratings that were either too harsh or too lenient and explain why the movies didn't deserve them.
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@acehaverford 2 года назад

"i doubt many ten year olds were begging their parents to take them to see the king's speech" i like how he said many and not all. Makes me feel seen

@wesleyhunt7599 2 года назад

I was 15 so I had to wait for the DVD.

@Alex_DC413 2 года назад

You already know what a pet peeve it is for me that PG has essentially taken over the G-rating. Regarding the King's Speech, in the 70's All the President's Men got a PG despite its profanity because they felt it was historically significant. If only the MPAA kept that attitude.

@abelarmstrong8054 5 месяцев назад

Even that was originally R. They had to appeal a PG.

@Starwarsfanboy0928 2 года назад

I say the most ridiculous MPAA rating is The Hunchback of Notre Dame having a G rating.

@BlythePennyBicycle21 2 года назад

I'm guessing it got a G rating because, other than the more action oriented movies like Atlantis The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet, Disney only started doing PG animated movies in 2004 with Home On The Range.

@MrAndrewsaccount92 2 года назад

I think Disney fought for the MPAA to give it a G rating. Even if PG was getting more family-oriented in 90s, it would still be a risk for an animated film at the time to get that. Families probably would have thought "Disney's next animated film is rated PG? It must be too dark and violent for children. No way we're gonna see it!" The Black Cauldron probably tanked at the box office for that very reason.

@MrCoat 2 года назад

You're not wrong. There was a recent retrospective article about Hunchback in the New York Times and the filmmakers talked about how they got away with a G, as Disney (like you said) felt a PG would hurt the movie at the box-office. They said the two things the MPAA primarily objected to and said would result in Hunchback receiving a PG was the word "sin" (which they slightly covered up with a sound effect) and a sound Frollo makes when he sniffs Esmeralda's hair in one scene, which they removed.

@locomotivetrainstation6053 5 месяцев назад

I'd say its Watership Down getting a PG rating

@Mrmoviefan123 2 года назад

Toy Story 3 has a G rating, but I would've given it a PG for the incinerator scene alone.

@martingargaro4855 2 года назад

I seem to recall you doing a similar video a couple years back regarding the strangest reasons why the MPAA rated certain movies. For a minute, I thought I was having deja vu

@MrGabeanator 2 года назад

the hunchback of notre dame and spirit stallion of cimarron shoulda been rated PG i think they probably would be if they were made today

@MrGabeanator 2 года назад

@marianne mccrank yep exactly

@gerawallstar3487 2 года назад

10:30 you could argue that the head trauma scene in the movie was also the reason for the rating. Still no excuse to the whole movie PG though.

@trevonpernell0814 2 года назад

Stand By Me being rated R, despite the fact that it has little violence and no sex scenes.

@yosephdawson7045 2 года назад

I agree with you. Well, there was the "dead body" theme and the mountain of language, but I still think it could warrant for a PG-13. (Because no kid has ever heard fuck or shit before, right?)

@nicholasnardone4139 2 года назад

I already brought this up when I commented on the MPAA rating reasons video, but I have issues with the rating for Batman: Soul of The Dragon. It's a fairly calm martial arts film with some swearing and mostly bloodless fight scenes in it. It's a hard PG-13 at worst. But all because of a single scene with some slightly brutal violence and blood in it, it attained an R rating for "some violence." Meanwhile, to bring up another DC animated movie, Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox contains scenes of on-screen stabbings, killings and, hell they even show a decapitated head at one point in the film, as well as a gunshot wound through the head. Yet it's only a PG-13 for "sci-fi violence and action throughout." The MPAA is freakin' weird...

@maxythekitty 2 года назад

Bean. The only reason that movie was PG-13 was because of one joke in the movie and it's near the end. It's when Mr. Bean takes a picture of a biker and the biker flips the bird at him. Bean proceeds to think of it as a good and positive gesture, so he then puts up his middle finger every time he passes by someone. There are other gross out jokes, but they're tame and kids won't even get it at all including the middle finger scene. There was the surgery scene, but we don't see the patient's open wound. Just some blood with a bizarre joke and that's it. It's something out of a hard PG movie. Barely close to PG-13 imo. There's little to no profanity either. No F-bombs. It's funny cause Speed Racer got a PG rating, it's more violent than Bean, and had a character briefly flipping their finger. It's weird.

@seankoontz4235 2 года назад

Gnomeo & Juliet (the first one) had some pretty harsh violence and several innuendos and got away with a G, but Home on the Range got a PG just for that. Very weird

@Sandlot1992 2 года назад

speaking of "Little Monsters", a young Doug Walker (of the Nostalgia Critic) has seen this movie before back in 1989 when he talked about it in his the Worst Movies the Nostalgia Critic Reviewed back in 2012 and was put at the number 3 spot!

@rastergrafx4210 2 года назад

For me, the crown jewel of the MPAA's inconsistent hypocrisy would be Watership Down, a notoriously gory film that got a G rating.

@abelarmstrong8054 2 года назад

It actually got a PG, but that’s probably not much better.

@Flamquill 2 года назад

@@abelarmstrong8054 Of course, there was no PG-13 in 1978.

@cetrata1993 2 года назад

Speaking of bbfc (the UK rating board), they did recently rerate little monsters from the PG it got in the UK to a 12

@josepharmstrong1788 2 года назад

Any PG rated that has ‘some’ or ‘mild’ IMO need to be rated G. It really shows how messed up the system is when I am willing to pay full admission to see Paw Patrol The Movie just because it’s rated G.

@Zacman1123 2 года назад

That's how I felt with the recent "My Little Pony" movie. Nothing in that film warranted a PG rating.

@cradica 2 года назад

@@Zacman1123 not to mention the show is rated TV-Y

@joshuaW5621 28 дней назад

I don’t even know if I should be surprised that Toy Story 3 and Cars 2 were given G ratings despite their dark nature.

@sasamichan 2 года назад

Any one who knows Don Bluth or Gremlins knows a G or PG can screech a long way. Ive seen too many G rated PG films and PG rated PG13 rated films. I wonder if one could make a scene for scene live action remake of American Tale and still get a G rating today?

@nicholasharvey1232 9 месяцев назад

P.S. I also felt that Honey, I Shrunk The Kids (1989) should have been rated G, but I guess the MPAA raters felt that certain scenes (e.g. the scorpion attack) were too scary to qualify for the G rating.

@Father_of_Death 5 месяцев назад

I think on Cartoon Network that was rated TV-PG-V I think the main reason that got a PG rating is because of the fact that the kids almost got mutilated by the lawn mower.

@nicholasharvey1232 5 месяцев назад

@@Father_of_Death There's also the bee attack, Amy nearly drowning in a mud puddle... the film has its share of scenes that could unnerve younger viewers. But what's a good adventure movie without a few tense moments.

@Father_of_Death 5 месяцев назад

@@nicholasharvey1232I think if rating reasons existed back then it probably would have been rated PG for Some Mild Peril.

@nathanforester5993 2 года назад

The MPAA tends to have a messed up thing regarding blood, they're okay with blood but if it's red...yeah, that's why Tarantino made the vampire blood green in From Dusk Till Dawn. Yet there have been horror movies before and after that have had blood be red, apparently the fact they don't like that blood is red.

@MrCoat 2 года назад

I remember that's also the reason why one of the fight scenes in "Kill Bill Vol. 1" switches to black-and-white all of a sudden, because the MPAA felt the goriness of the scene warranted a NC-17. Which is funny, because a) the gore in Kill Bill is intentionally over-the-top and ridiculous and b) it's not like the rest of the movie is lacking in extremely violent and gory sequences.

@nathanforester5993 3 месяца назад

@@MrCoat The MPPA has no problem with blood, they just don't like blood is red despite you know...red being the color that human blood is in real life.

@cradica 2 года назад

There is a similar situation to the 8th Grade. Carole and Tuesday got rated TV-MA just for 1 scene where the Mermaid sisters sing the f word 11 times in a row. I am glad that Yen Press decided to give the manga a T for teen rating

@laurencevicar5798 2 года назад

opposite case: Christopher Nolan movies almost ALWAYS get PG-13 despite being dark and gritty, especially the dark knight and dunkirk

@Memethatnoonetalksaboutman 9 месяцев назад

8:57 the kings speech was originally rated 15 in the UK (basically an R but without the adult accompaniment and movies like the Jackass or Saw movies or given an 18, an NC-17 equivalent) but was withdrawn and was given an 12A/12

@TheSEMAJ1117 2 года назад

The MPAA makes strange decisions sometimes. I entirely disagree with their policy on language with only 1 F-Word allowed for a PG-13. Granted if the language becomes excessive and used in a sexual way that should be R. However, I think teenagers can handle a little swearing from a character in a movie. I'm surprised Beetlejuice was rated PG in the States since it's always been M in Australia, sort of our equivalent of PG-13, for its horror and language. Another movie that was PG and I was surprised to have an F-Word was Big. I think I've only ever seen the movie on television with this brief scene cut out but when I recently watched it on Disney + it was there and I was taken aback since I wasn't expecting it.

@money05mayhem 2 года назад

Another PG film with the F Word is Spaceballs, and like Beetlejuice, it was after 1984

@knightfuryproductions 2 года назад

What about films like All Dogs Goes To Heaven? It's rated G, but it has dark tones, and alcohol.

@redscyther7725 2 года назад

Maybe it doesn't really deserve a lower rating, but Army of Darkness felt tame for an R-rated movie to me. The official reason for its R rating is "terror and violence", but the horror elements aren't as pronounced as in some films that got lower ratings and AOD was also an action film with comedic elements, and there were only two scenes with blood in them: -A geyser of blood from an offscreen death. Something that On Her Majesty's Secret Service also did and got a PG (and while that one was given an M before it was called PG, it was re-rated PG in 1994) -A decapitation with blood smearing on the camera, but is otherwise totally clean of graphic detail Then again, there is a Director's Cut that I haven't seen, and maybe that one has more R-rated content in it.

@thejoker0123 2 года назад

i would have added The Cat In The Hat 2003 on that list

@stagelinedpro 2 года назад

Birds of Prey had some reshoots to get an R rating. Honestly that movie did not have to be rated R. All they do is drop some random f-bombs and some CGI blood splatters. Usually R rated films are edited down to be PG-13, but Birds of Prey seem to be the antithesis of that.

@MrCoat 2 года назад

I thought Birds of Prey was very much a PG-13 and I actually think the film being released with a R rating slightly hurt it at the box-office, as that's the kind of movie that would probably appeal a lot to teenagers.

@adamdavis1648 2 года назад

I hope you can forgive my ignorance as I've never seen either film, but what's the difference between the conversations about sex in "Eighth Grade" and the ones in "Clerks" that warrant different ratings for each film? Also, is it true that "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" helped create the PG-13 rating?

@MrCoat 2 года назад

In Eighth Grade, Bo Burnham made a point of making sure the conversations about sex were things that any thirteen year old would have already heard at that point. It's not a vulgar movie and is perfectly acceptable for teenage viewers. The conversations in Clerks are far more crass. For example, there's a scene where one of the main characters lists off a bunch of pornographic film titles, each one dirtier than the last. Characters also discuss things in rather graphic detail. And yes, both Temple of Doom and Gremlins came out the same summer and were seen as far too violent and scary for a PG, although also not graphic enough to receive a R. So Spielberg suggested the new rating.

@nicholasharvey1232 9 месяцев назад

I don't see why the Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023) couldn't have gotten a G. The 1993 version really could have gotten a G as well, but I guess the MPAA believed that the darker atmosphere of Dinohattan (and the de-evolution sequences) could be too scary for small children.

@locomotivetrainstation6053 5 месяцев назад

Mario movie and Elemental should be rated G

@RadioLaPrincess 27 дней назад

The one I think of is the Blues Brothers. Yes this is before the PG-13 but it has a scene with a lot of swearing but not much else. This sticks out because it was filming near me (I shopped at the mall all the time when it was open) yet couldn't see it because my parents never took me to R films. Meanwhile Jaws was violent at gets a PG.

@r66f80 2 года назад

I've heard that the MPA messed up on the rating for the movie Toy Story 3. The movie was rated G, but some people, including, I think, the MPA, said it should have been rated PG due to the incinerator scene.

@MrCoat 2 года назад

Yes, I've read they got complaints from parents about that. I also read an interview with the former head of the ratings board who said one of her biggest regrets was giving Cars 2 a G rating. It was a very split decision among the raters, but they ultimately passed it with a G. "We had a divided vote on Cars 2 but the G’s won. I had misgivings because as they’re going around the track, there’s a lot of ‘kill em’, kill em,’ but I thought, ‘OK, well, it’s animated’ and I talked myself down the cliff. The parents did not. They felt very very misled. It was our fault." That probably explains why the MPAA has gotten harsher towards Pixar over the last decade.

@cetrata1993 2 года назад

@@MrCoat I had mentioned this a few years ago but it's still weird cars 3 got a G rating despite a crash scene and planes (not pixar) had nothing as scary yet got a PG

@MrCoat 2 года назад

Planes probably got a PG for the World War II flashback scene (not unlike what happened with Christopher Robin).

@matthewm.986 2 года назад

@@MrCoat Personally, as someone who was scared for years of Babyface, the leader of the Mutant Toys, I think "Toy Story" should have been PG.

@wesleyhunt7599 2 года назад

Frozen got a PG for a way too subtle dick joke I would have let slide. I thought Clash/Wrath of the Titans should have been R. Way too violent. Likewise, Casino Royale 06 had a torture scene that should have bumped it up. Pre-PG-13, but I think Raging Bull didn't warrant an R either. A little swearing and boxing stuff, that's it.

@batatavada7843 Год назад

Who Framed Roger Rabbit should've received a PG-13 but somehow got away with a PG rating.

@michaeldavis1879 2 года назад

I'm surprised Airplane! still has a PG rating despite the blow-up doll joke, pedophilic jokes, bare breasts, beastiality, suicide jokes, drug jokes (including sniffing glue), and dark comedy scattered throughout. On the opposite side of the spectrum, I don't think Ed Wood deserved an R. It has foul language but not much else. Even the plot of Bela Legosi dealing with his morphine addiction, and the withdraws he goes through, should probably be shown to younger audiences to scare younger viewers away from drugs.

@andywinslow9638 2 года назад

I get the sense crossdressing by the lead character also contributed to that R of the latter which is also a stupid reason.

@cetrata1993 2 года назад

2 examples came to mind recently. 1. Cruella: The worst thing that happens in the movie is that a character was pushed over the cliff to her death. At worst, this would be PG material since for The Lion King (both the original and remake), scar threw mufassa over the cliff and were G and PG respectively. And yet Cruella is PG 13. This would be no worse than PG in my opinion. 2. Nomadland. Already, this is a light Pg 13 at best since it contains little profanity and no sex or violence. And yet this got an R rating only because of a brief out of focus shot of nudity when the lead was swimming. It isn't sexualized at any way, was out of focus, and lasts for a few seconds yet apparently, kids needed to be guarded by their parents while watching it. Other than those 2, out of the animated films I watched this year,, soul, luca, boss baby 2, and spirit untamed should have all been G with only Raya deserving of the PG.

@andywinslow9638 2 года назад

Well on the bright side with Cruella, it's now on Disney plus and you even can actually if you don't have Disney+ it's cheaper if you get the package for less than a theater once. As a nudist, Nomandland is an example of how nudity is different from natural and sexual. In the case with Fern, she's just a free spirit who does different things across the country and one is a swim in the creek as you said. That's it. I was going to say the rest of the film is quite touching about who she meets and what's she does but honestly you might as well say that scene is no different. I saw a seen on a show 9 perfect Strangers where all you see is a couple shoulders and that seemed more sexual.

@andywinslow9638 2 года назад

Also out of Francis McDermott 3 Oscars films, Nomandland is the one I literally see the most family friendly. Fargo obviously for violence and Three Billboards for woman beating. If you want to introduce your kid to a wonderful actress like FM defiantly do Nomandland

@darkclawsdomain7148 2 года назад

Oh boy do I have one that most people don't even know about. Ballistic: Ecks VS. Sever (2002) The movie received an R rating for "Strong Violence", but the violence shown in the movie is nothing that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie, seeing as there is hardly any blood or gore at all in the flick. It's not graphic in the slightest. The movie doesn't have that much profanity, and when it does, it's nothing you wouldn't hear in a PG-13 movie, and there is no sexual dialogue to speak of whatsoever. Just goes to show that even the MPAA screws up on their ratings when it comes to violence. The way I see it, no movie is safe from getting harsher ratings than necessary.

@henrymockingbird9645 2 года назад

sinbad eye of the tiger is rated g it has nudity and violences

@aaronwalakay Год назад

What about the old planet of the apes movies. Way too violent for g rated

@matthewmooney4301 2 года назад

Percy Jackson is somehow rated PG instead of PG-13.

@bychrischannel 2 года назад

9 and Mulan 2020 both should've been PG. Some scary scenes and violence, sure, but no bloodshed or anything too shocking for PG-rated family films. Heck, if these came out in 1982, these would've been *G!* Also, Billy Elliot is on here, yet not Planes, Trains & Automobiles? That movie was MUCH tamer than Billy Elliot was! Both in terms of F-bomb usage and other thematic elements! The Angry Birds Movie was pretty crass for a modern-day PG. I would've given it a PG-13 instead.

@MrCoat 2 года назад

Planes, Trains and Automobiles is a great example. I agree. It doesn't deserve a R, which it only got because of the famous car rental scene. But the MPAA really hates the f-word for some reason.

@cetrata1993 2 года назад

@@MrCoat Although I wonder if paramount or John Hughes wanted to add the scene in just to get an R

@ProbablySoon-pv6ee 16 дней назад

The Angry Birds Movie being PG is understandable, if anything it should be rated G, everything goes over the kids heads

@JaredGriffiths2000 2 года назад

I'm from the UK and over here most of these films have a more appropriate rating.

@wilbourke4188 2 года назад

The stupidest MPAA rating for me would be the godawful Mulan remake which was too dumbdown, juvenile and downright sloppy for a PG13!

@desrgamersqumpai7764 Год назад

PG is the new g and pg-13 is the new pg

@josephrowe849 11 месяцев назад

Well, Pocahontas had a G rating despite the references to colonization, the mistreatment of Native people (with the word "Savage" used frequently) and the one scene where Kocoum dies by gunshot. No blood is seen but it doesn't make it any less intense.

@diddyphukkingkong393 5 месяцев назад

There was also some kissing.

@josephrowe849 5 месяцев назад

@@diddyphukkingkong393 Other Disney films have it too (Aladdin, Little Mermaid, etc.) but the rating systems don't seem to care that much since they don't get all "touchy-feely" with each other.

@Father_of_Death 5 месяцев назад

@@josephrowe849"Beauty and the Beast" has blood and some gruesome images. Yet it still got a G rating.

@josephrowe849 5 месяцев назад

@@Father_of_Death Believe it or not, it originally had more gruesome stuff in it that got later cut from the drawing board due to being too extreme. One was The Beast dragging a dead deer carcass into the castle which would've painted him in an even worse light. Another was Gaston's fight with Beast taking place in the woods instead of the castle. That scene was about to have Belle bash Gaston's head with a giant rock and he slides down the hill where he gets mauled to death by the wolves from earlier which of course was too much even for a villain like him. It was recycled for Scar's death in The Lion King where the hyenas mauled him to death after overhearing his plan to betray them.

@someonenow1 7 месяцев назад

Surprised that Gunner Palace was not given a section: 42 f-bombs and still a PG-13 rating.

@cradica 2 года назад

I find it interesting that they have a PG ratings for manga it’s like the old movie ratings A-G T-PG OT-R M-X

@jbird_inc Год назад

The MPAA needs to overhaul their rating system as it doesn't work. For a lot of these films the British rating system (BBFC) made better decisions. Billy Elliot and Eighth Grade were given the 15+ rating while The Kings Speech was given a 12+. In my opinion having these films rated 12+ or 15+ is better than them being rated 17+

@tayloredwards4968 2 года назад

You forgot Watership Down because how is that rated PG for kids🐰

@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 2 года назад

Do you mean the original or remake?

@tayloredwards4968 2 года назад

The original

@MrCoat 2 года назад

Like I said in the video, I only included films released after the creation of the PG-13 rating.

@SilverShine-tr5kr 2 года назад

That film was made long before the PG-13 rating existed, so that was the closest rating they could give it since it wasn't graphic enough to be rated R.

@ama-ri_vox 2 года назад

@@MrCoat The one line in Home on the Range is PG, but all of the deaths in Cars 2 is G

@TommyPezMaster 2 года назад

Are you surprised that Paw Patrol: The Movie got a G since that rating is a rareity?

@MrCoat 2 года назад

After the Shaun the Sheep Movie and My Little Pony: The Movie got a PG, yes. And based on the trailer, it looks like there are a few action scenes, which is usually enough for them to slap a PG on something. So the G is indeed refreshing to see.

@joshmontemayor6098 Год назад

The Polar Express got the G-rating & that movie came out the same year as Home on the Range. I guess that MPAA thought that The Polar Express is cleaner than Home on the Range.

@MrCoat Год назад

I re-watched The Polar Express last month and was surprised it got a G rating. You would think the scenes of characters in peril or a few potentially scary moments like the marionette scene would have gotten it a PG.

@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme 11 месяцев назад

German Tarzan is a PG despite it playing things safe, while Tarzan 1999 is G despite a baby gorrila getting eating alive on screen.

@Father_of_Death 5 месяцев назад

There's old archived evidence that they didn't feel comfortable with a G rating. When ABC aired "Tarzan" in 2003 it was TV-PG-V

@TommyDeonauthsArchives 2 года назад

If you think that's ridiculous, see the esrb ratings on certain games!

@ryandt2623 2 года назад

I've also mentioned before how it irritated me that Frozen gets a PG rating just for a scene where Kristoff asks Anna what Prince Hans's foot size is. Again, that moment's so quick, I'm sure it'll just fly over little kids's head, and they won't think anything of that line.

@redscyther7725 2 года назад

I saw that movie when I was 10 back when it first came out and even I didn't get that joke

@jakedebruin2246 23 дня назад

Fricking paw patrol the mighty movie is PG, a movie for toddlers isn’t tame enough for the G rating these days…

@forrestdupre87 2 года назад

What about Coming to America?

@ama-ri_vox 2 года назад

Care to explain

@MrCoat 2 года назад

There is some swearing and a scene with nudity, but it's otherwise a very light R. I remember people were upset at the sequel being rated PG-13, but the first film got a R for the lightest of offences.

@smcauley600 2 года назад

boogie night shoudl of been a G

@chadhawksworth2809 2 года назад

I think that C U N T word should give you an NC - 17 rating

@cradica 2 года назад

I've seen it said on TV-14 show(not on TV of course). Also IT'S JUST A WORD!!!!

@Memethatnoonetalksaboutman 11 месяцев назад

Actually you can say the word cunt because in Shaun of the dead it was used once and was given a r rating Even the angels’ share which says is 15/16 times was given a r rating I think the mpaa views cunt the same way as fuck but without the one use rule and there’s probably a limit and then you get an NC-17

@Nightman221k 2 года назад

I wish I was allowed to watch Billy Elliot when I was a kid. The R rating kept me from seeing it

@maniacaldude 2 года назад

I wish the MPAA was better handled, because the way they rate films is flawed and ridiculous. I saw Ernest and Celestine once and questioned why it was given a PG rating. There is nothing in that movie that the majority of kids wouldn't be able to handle.

@locomotivetrainstation6053 5 месяцев назад

Now a G rating is very rare. Finding Dory, Frozen, Sing, Home, Despicable Me, Mario, Elemental and more are PG when there's no reason for them not to be G

@ryandt2623 2 года назад

It's interesting that you have both Beetlejuce and Little Monsters on the same list as I honestly think Little Monsters is a thinely veiled Beetlejuice. In your Letterboxed review, you said that Maurice is a completely obnoxious character. Well... I think the reason why he's so obnoxious, is cause I think they were trying a little bit too hard to make him like Beetlejuice. Doug Walker mentioned this, but it kinda seems like when Beetlejuice came along, everybody was just trying to do Beetlejuice but unfortunately... not as successfully.