All the tories have done is lie. Blame the poor. Blame the councils who they have witheld money from. Blame the junior doctors who they are unwilling to give a fair pay increase rise to. Blame migrants they let in.Blame labour who have not been in power for fourteen years. Blame the sick who are to poorly to work. Blame the war in Ukraine while big business made whopping prots from peoples financial despair.
@@sonofsomerset1695 "It's like remainers that blame Brexit Brexit for every problem" Only in your imagination. Remainers are very realistic, that's why we are remainers. We recognise that not all problems are due to Brexit, the pandemic, the Ukraine war & etc. But we can see that Brexit has made bad situations a lot worse than they would be otherwise.
It's been over a century since the Liberal Party was replaced by Labour as one of the two main parties. Not entirely impossible for the Conservatives to lose entirely and be replaced.
Which is why its best for Labour voters to consider Reform as they would be a good opposition unlike the Tories and the alternative is keeping the Tories around like a bad stink and them returning at the next election 2029.
A super manority is an amercican thing. You only need a majority of 1 to have all the power in the UK. More MPs give you some protection against rebels, up to a point. Wish supposed experts would stop talking about a supermajority as if its a thing in the UK. It isnt.
One, I would define it as any majority of 100 or more seats. Two, I support Labour having a very large majority. However, If a party has that amount it would take more than 80 rebel members of that party to disrupt any legislation that the party wished to pass. Since the usual number of rebels in any party -left or right - is about 30-40 members the ruling party not only does not have to worry about the opposition but it also does not have to worry about upsetting its own somewhat more ideological MPs. That can lead to some unusual legislation.
..... I hate that they won't answer a question with a straight answer!!!!! I accept sometimes it will be bad news { on the economy, for instance }, but, just tell us straight, fer goodness sake!!!!! We hate the waffle & BS more than anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sunak distory the Conservative party don’t know what the chairs man are doing and he distory country structure and border how come Tory become so careless .wear is value of tory party.
@@royboy565 Lets see, North Sea windfall tax: Labour-Tory both agree. Unnecessary lockdowns that ruined the economy: Lab-Tory both agreed. The Net zero scam that will send energy and fuel bills through the roof for no effect on climate: Labour and tories both agree. Ignoring vaccine harms: Labour and Tory both agree. Both allowed mass immigration. So what exactly do Reform have more in common with the Tories than Labour do?
@@JohnTaylor-b5z Best bet is voting Reform then you get a decent opposition party to keep labour in check and guarantee that the Tories wont be coming back in future elections because at some point people will want to get rid of Labour.
His lack of decency is best evidenced by his throwing, what, 250 of his colleagues under the electoral bus to save himself from a leadership challenge. That is truly sociopathic behaviour.
@@Hydraargyrum Someone should asked how many contracts info systems have gained since he was Chancellor and Prime minister. Tech services biz Infosys enjoyed a 49 per cent increase in its invoices from the UK government for 2023, according to research figures. The Indian company, founded by the father-in-law of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, has come under scrutiny as research from Tussell showed it billed £7 million ($8.87 million) in 2023, up from £4.7 million ($5.96 million) the previous year. The figure was higher in 2020 (£6.1 million / $7.73 million) and then dropped off.
Electoral Calculus have a very interesting prediction: Labour 450, Lib Dem 71, Conservative 60, SNP 23. Reform 19, Plaid 4, Green 4 It also has Rishi Sunak losing his seat in Richmond & Northallerton by 0.1%!
Interesting. It was also conducted before Farage dropped his Putin-fanboy bombshell, and is completely out of step with all the other MRP polls, and with more recent snapshot polls, which have all been showing a noticable drop in Reform support since that incident. But a poll conducted on behalf of GB News should be treated just the same as every other poll, with caution - and as giving a view of trends not of absolutes.
@marktrotter8971 the whole Russia thing has been overinflated. If you listen to what he actually said the West gave Putin an excuse to his people to invade, which is true and the same thing Boris said. The difference is that Farage will say what he thinks where other politicians say what will get them the most votes.
Just think of the love-in at PMQs - Sir Ed Starmer asks Sir Kier Davies a question about how a policy doing good for the country could be better implemented, rather than a confrontation about why on earth the incompetant LizRishiBoris SunakJohnsonTruss is wasting public money on some divisive dogwhistling far-right anti-wokism culture-war policy that brings no benefits to anyone - except perhaps those in the far-right hierarchy or the Kremlin.
Lib-Dems support totally open borders. How well will that go down with the rest of the country? To be a 'liberal' and a 'democrat' is a contradiction in terms. Don't we already live in a 'liberal-democracy'? Democracy has been reduced to meaninglessness, because of the 'tyranny of the majority' argument. Freedom of speech has been reduced to 'correct speech' or else you'll lose your job or be imprisoned. Liberals support absolute control of our economy by the neoliberals. So, economic democracy is non-existent. Want loads more of the same, do you? Tyrannical liberalism? I asked a liberal about this and he said 'Oh well, sometimes it's necessary'. Yeah, who for? Sorry about the bold text.
raising VAT overnight crushed any chance of economic recovery. quote GEORGE Osborne's decision to hike VAT will shave 0.3 per cent off GDP in 2011-12, the official independent forecaster said yesterday. Quote George Osborne's VAT rise illustrates an unbending truth of politics: it's easier to raise £13bn from the poor than upset VIPs
What do the tories expect? Whenever the UK is in trouble the first lever the tories pull is make the poor and vulnerable pay the price. Cut benefits, cut public spending, demonise the unemployed, demonise the asylum seekers, demonise the disabled. It worked for a long time but at last people are now seeing the light.
@@RRR4847-o9g what a complete crock of ****. If you want economic growth a vibrant economy you give money to poor people because the spend it. Give it to millionaires and it ends up locked in assets and savings doing zero for the economy. Example low corporation tax nearly all of the additional money was spent on share buy backs a complete and utter waste of tax.
To all those people who complain about a lack of "charisma" in our leaders: perhaps you need to reflect on what "charisma" actually is, and all those people who have had it and nothing else. A lot of people thought, and some still do, that Johnson - God help us - had "charisma".
He did but of a narcissistic kind, and he was always dodgy and any Tory clinging onto his political resurrection as one that may cause the same to happen at the ballot box is a wotsit.
Demagogues have unlimited charisma, however, I am more interested in actions and results. The say judge people by their actions, so if I am to judge on the past years then the conservatives are a steaming pile of horse manure
Shouty rude and forked tongued.........thats Sunak...............and that bloke who asked are you two the best we have.........typical Farage question....Reform Party ..Plant.
@@sonofsomerset1695yes, but the Tory’s have been in power 75% of that time, people forget how little labour have actually been in power over the last 150 years. In reality closer to a one party system!
@@chickenbites8877The Labour party didn't exist 150 years ago they weren't founded until 1900 and didn't form a Labour government until 1924 (and that was a minority government which only lasted from January 1924 to November 1924). Before that the two parties which had taken turns at governing were the Conservative party and Liberal party. It would be quite possible for it to be Labour and the LibDems being the two main parties taking turns at governing in the future with the Conservatives reduced to being the third party just as the Liberals were reduced to being the third party after the 1920s.
Politics isnt rocket science. As a country Our debt has trebled ..at the same time millionaires and billionaires have trebled their wealth....while ordinary people have seen their incomes nosedive comparatively.....this is where things have to change !!
"Unprecedented swing - could easily swing back" keeps getting trotted out but largely misses the point. It's not "the swing", it's half the Tory voters abandoning the Tory party because they're too disgusted to carry on voting for them. Until that changes disappointment with Starmer will not be enough to revive them.
Starmer had no option but to join in the shouting due to an undisciplined PM and a totally ineffective adjudicator or was she as right wing as they could manage!!??
@glynsmith4590 Sunak's answer to everything is repeating utter lies and when challenged, raising his voice and shouting the same lies. It's breath taking this man is anywhere near government.
I wonder who the left will blame when Labour sends energy and fuel prices through the roof with their ignorant net zero plans, Brexit or Russia I guess, and the gullible will still swallow it and keep voting Labour.
No. Labours millstone was Corbyn. They could not shake off the incessant barrage of Anti Semitism slurs every day from the TV and print media and Corbyn didn't help by not standing up to them
@@loud-and-proud-patriot No_ the media and the establishment didn't like Corbyn. Remember what Theresa May said to him in Parliament? "WE will ensure you do not win". Plain as day
@@pip1723 Labour manifesto will be ignored, all you will get is high taxes. They had to have an ED Stone in order to stick to their manifesto as they are know for ignoring it. The green taxes will particularly bite, forget having a future.
@@graemeyetts3465 So truth's a constant. Don't expect constant innovation from me, please, I try to find a path forwards, but in this case, DNR is on the top page of the case notes. Something must follow, but with a strict bar on anyone mixed up in this crash. They cannot be trusted, have no judgment, and the first step is to get this election done. Once we know where we are, then we can find a path forwards.
That isn't really the problem what we've seen along with Liz Truss is the complete failure of Thatcherism, the current bunch are so welded to that ideology they cannot comprehend why deregulation and trickle down tax cuts has turned our economy into a stagnant cesspool yet their answer is to double down on the very thing that has failed for 14 years.
Improvements in life expectancy have slowed in the UK since the early 2010s. A recent study argued there have been over 300,000 excess deaths during this period, when comparing trends in life expectancy with those from before 2011. The authors of the study argue this is a result of austerity policies pursued by the government
The elderly man who asked are you two the best your parties have got was interviewed in the spin room. His two major concerns were inheritance tax and fuel duty. Obviously concerned about the state of the country and his fellow citizens NOT. Tories still have further to fall. Shy tories yes because they cannot look themselves in the mirror.
This time, it's Alzheimers. Their thinkers have deserted them, and if the only argument is duty, they're unelectable. Many don't consider Sunak decent, after crashing the economy for a quick cash raid in 2008, and then presuming we identify with them. In a way, this call to loyalty is a form of patriotism, defined in the first dictionary as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Who is the male presenter, he sits there with a self satisfied smug look on his face all the time, I take it he's the most intelligent person in the country and knows everything
Spare a thought for journalists who must be running out of ways to say that the Tories are heading for a wallop the scale of which keeps looking worse and worse for them.
Won't another election loss for the Tories be Tony Gallagher as editor of The Times? He is so out of step with the readership; post election map Times times sales to constituency colour and it overlay red and yellow. Bet there aren't many sales in Clacton. Something has to be done as the paper is currently heading down the path of the Telegraph, which will not exist come the next election.
If only Screaming Lord Such was still around to stand against the PM - there is a fighting chance he'd have got in. Not Sunak's fault though, he was always the sacrificial lamb - handed a poison chalice in the run up to the election, pre-determined by Johnson and Truss to be a monster disaster for the Tories.
This supermajority thing is a load of guff. It’s just a majority. Supermajorities aren’t a thing in British politics. However if we get a Tory superminority I’ll be pleased to see that exist…..
I’m looking forward to contributing to the Tories having their worst ever defeat. They need to be taught a lesson they won’t forget that a torrent of lies, venal cruelty and off the charts corruption won’t go unpunished in an election.
@adblocker276 It's a very good question, we have millions of intelligent able bodied adults in this country and like he said these two are the best we can come up with. Doesn't say a lot about the people of this country, when anyone is looking at either of these two to lead us!!!
@@johnburniston6525 I don't understand the first six words of your comment, I am the last person to use the term gammon and I'm not a Reform supporter...
In the US we have 2 unelectable candidates, the first an old old man, the second an old dishonest man. In the UK we have a 2 unelectable candidates, the first an political coward who had the power to fix problems and chose not to, and the second an pathetic lefty. What has the world come to......?
Populations of voters that are the mother lode of low awareness, low education, & high xenophobic public. That is when they began to use the same tactics on both sides of the pond. Drum-up anger at immigrants, cultural wars, “others” keeping “you” in fly-over country or the Red Wall down, etc. Why do you think a significant part of the Tories are now fervent far-right wingers just like our Repubs? Even your media is following the same “socialism is evil” mantra.
"Rishi's performance" was one of a petulant, spoilt prep school child. "It wasn't me Right, look at him right, he's worse ,right. "He'll eat your Labrador's sack your servants and burn your stables, Right".
To expand on the point about why the two major parties have a lower vote share these days, I think it was borne out of the Brexit referendum, as we all realised, that politics was no longer just a battle of Left-versus-Right, but that other parties may also have specific policies, which appealed to us, so the broad-church parties became less appealing. What should a Tory Remainer or a Labour Leaver do, and what about social values, be they liberal or conservative? Voters are asking which party understands their demographic in terms of age, social class, educational level, etc. All those factors have driven people to look beyond the battle between the two big parties, and that was much less the case before the Brexit referendum, as we all knew then that we were either right-of-centre or left-of-centre, and that was largely as far as it went!
Tories do not want to vote for Sunak as his agenda is way off line. Labour are deeply unhappy with Starmer as the old Corbanista now is a pale shadow of what he really once was & is aimless. Farage is mainly Immigration focused & Davey acts like a clown. Greens take in Islamist & have lost the plot. So voting is not obvious is it?
None on me, I'd already decided to vote tactically against the Conservative in my area. I like Starmer though no one is perfect, but I detest Sunak and the current Conservative party. I don't think Sunak is decent or doing what he thinks is best for the country at all I keep hearing that particularly on your channel, I just don't see it that way.
These so called debate are a waste of time. With one week to go, if you have not already decided, then tis debate will not alter that fact. From now until the election, the poles are not going to move that much. But the whole format of the debate as unbelievable and a to total embarrassment. You have Sunak repeat prevent lies like they are facts, shout over the chair and opposition, he looked like he was reading from notes provide. He look petulant and weasel like, “don’t Surrender” the new plea mantra, begging for people to like him, a school boy in a playground that no one wants to play with. The audience seemed a one sided demographic asking what looked like planted questions. The chair was weak and had no control. I found the whole debate to be unprofessional and an insult to the British people who wanted a clear discussion on the merits of both parties and policies, and not a p!ssing match. Both candidates and the BBC did not come over at all well.
You broadcasters and interviewers should have been asking Sir K whether he believes in trickle-down. His whole schtick being wealth creation contingent on growth is little more than prettily repackaged trickle-down.
Neither are decent men, Starmer refuses to publish the report into racism within Labour or distance himself from the genocidal friends of Israel group instead removing anti genocide candidates and replacing them with ethno nationalists..Sunak is the inheritor and part architect of 14 years of misery and austerity
im voting labour this time because labour have a plan, that seems like it could work. we need growth and the labour party are the only ones talking about it. refuk immigration and privatising the NHS and the tories are tax tax and tax, oh did i mention tax, tax tax and tax, then tax tax tax tax tax,
@@shaun906 Labour have a plan alright, the same as the tories, to push net zero for their global masters, making everyone poorer to transfer money to the rich.
Good luck. Sunak was absolutely terrible in that debate (among the worst I've seen), so bad in fact that I could only watch the first 30 minutes or so. I've never seen someone who is apparently professional behave so childishly. Just shouting soundbite over soundbite, making stuff up, shouting over Kier, openly lying about various things (mostly track record related) with an appalling host who gave Sunak free reign. I actually felt sorry for Starmer having to put up with it all, he really looked like he was trying his best.
being in opposition is a platform to rebuild but from 3rd place it would be a lot harder to rebuild whereas if the liberals are the opposition they could build their base somewhat
One consequence, and a question of mine of a Labour super majority, would be that there would not be enough space on the Government benches for Labour MPs to sit. This is due to the layout and arrangement of the House of Commons. Would the future Leader of the House need to write to the Speaker for permission for Labour MPs to be overflowed to the Opposition benches so that future Labour MPs can have confidence of speaking in debates?
Sunak made his fortune betting against the UK in 2008 he has no decency it's why he still hasn't apologised for party gate or his wife's non Dom status
1) He made his fortune from his wife's shares in Infosys, if he made money from the financial crisis before his political career then good for him as long as he paid his taxes. 2) He did apologize 3) His wife pays taxes after her status was revealed when she had no legal right to do so😮
