The Total War You've Always Wanted 

Empire Total War era, it is an era that spans the whole world while line infantry battles still occurring and there is still lots of asymmetric armies around the world so you get lots of variety and different tactics

1400-1699 A.D.

1630 - 1900

new medieval game

Late Middle Age Europe but Japan/China alliance travelled west and Rome SPQR opened a portal time travelled to reclaim Italian peninsula. 4 games in 1

they just wanted to focush and when briatin was the main power... :P

@@AlejandroNievas1 An interesting theory. backed by the number of games and DLC they have produced from the 19th Century when the UK was the richest and most powerful nation on the planet. /s

The period is a bit boring military wise to be honest. By boring I mean that it basically used Pike and Shot, as the title says with some cavalry and artillery added. This made the battles way less dynamic compared to the middle ages/renaissance or the napoleon wars. I suspect this is the reason they have not used this setting.

@@Prophed2301 emm? is actually the opposite , a combination of medieval and moder warfare ... with huge emphasys on mobility of the divisions and brigades, across battlefields, and in campaing the strat of supply networks , and the creation of the nation states as we know today

@@Prophed2301 so pikes together with muskets and artillery with knights on top is boring compared to knights with archers and spearmen?

Keep up the good work !

Can’t wait for the campaign. I know it’s a long ways down the road but you’re doing Gods work

yes and a campaign right? 😄

What is your discord?

my brother in christ the japanese voicelines need to go keep up the good work

This mod actually takes place some 100 years after the tercios' glory days, this is the era of Dutch and Swedish brigades with pike-to-shot proportions basically reversed.

Other way around actually, the tercios started with a relatively even split of pikemen, swordsmen and crossbowmen, and as they went on they gradually replaced the swordsmen with more pikemen and the crossbowmen with arquebusiers, since pikemen countered cavalry, which were the biggest threat to the arquebusiers. When two tercios met in melee combat that was called a push of pike. As firearms became better and better, the arquebusiers started replacing more and more pikemen, and eventually they dropped the pikemen altogether and evolved into line infantry.

Final battle of Alatriste starring Viggo Mortensen depicts it very well.

Great to know! @@joaogomes9405, Thanks!

Yes like someone already said the tercios were already pretty outdated during the time of the 30 years war. Most had switched to a mix of Maurician or Gustavian tactics.

Actualy in eastern Europe as well. Uskoks, hussars, hayduks etc

@@kristijangrgic9841 I think the Haiduk style of coat in Poland was introduced by King Stefan Bathory in the 1500s. He was previously Prince of Transylvania.

That's how they wore it in history so why not give them that?

@@pl-AthEE_Three It's a lot of extra development that isn't necessary for gameplay.

@@volatile100 It's a community-driven mod whose explicit purpose is to provide an accurate pike-and-shot experience. So (1) they don't owe anyone efficiency, they can focus on whatever _they_ deem important, and (2) it is necessary for achieving the mod's stated mission which goes beyond gameplay.

@@pl-AthEE_Three You asked why *not* give them that. I gave a reason to not give what would otherwise be considered a minor detail. If this weren't a mod, it wouldn't have been included, we known what CA is like. In normal game development it would be a post launch addition sold for $5.

@@volatile100 That reason is only applicable if getting the thing out quickly and efficiently was the main stated goal though. But yes, I do see your point.

That would be nice, but i think that it would apply if the unit is more experienced, so a rank 1 would take longer to reload than a rank 2 so to speak.

proper pike and shotte formations do not translate to a game so good :p a game is too fast.

We've all been waiting, we've all been hoping

Gothic and Milanese plate armoured knights with pistols, arquebusiers, pikemen etc etc would be awesome before transitioning into full pike and shot.

@@Poggle_der_Geringere yeah I'd love to have modern Total War with all that, Spanish Tercio, Italian Condottiere, French Gendarmes, Polish Hussars etc.

wait ww1?

@astartesfanboy5294 yeh there was a ww1 mod for napoleon total war

Its called the Great War mod for Napoleon Total war.

Pretty on topic given the period and mode of warfare

There’s war and roses mod ? U know how badly I want a game set on that period ? Is that mod full of content or still barebones ?

@@MrGeorge7823Yup

Get Medieval 2.

yes. They had something called Rodoleros, sword and shield units meant to kind of break pike formations. But it was short lived.

Cavalry right now is the main balancing factors. Musketeers break moral very easily and pike men prevents that. Go ahead current version is on mod db

We may get the old days back again

@definelogic4803 Even though I'd like to hope so, I'm the type of person that's once burned, will immediately keep a grudge or memory and stick to my principles as best as I can. I have no faith in CA or any new games and have lost faith since they moved to warhammer 1. I never played Rome or Attila but have tried it and found it lacking, even in the year. I still go back to play Shogun 2 just because I prefer the time period and the systems are a little more solid than the newest games. Trust; once broken cannot be fixed.

@@thesaintsrowspartan got it so you’re a loser who thinks everything is gonna be Arcady forever because of fantasy titles everyone in the community begged for

​@@thesaintsrowspartanMaybe we will get a good total war after Warhammer Total War 16.

@Mike3to or another Total War Arena type game. Troy, Pharaoh, Three Kingdoms were all disgusting. The art style, the gameplay and lack of features are just disappointing if not infuriating. I was excited for three kingdoms and am glad I didn't buy it when it came out. Give me a historical title already, CA! Fuck your apologies!

Confidently incorrect ... The mod is literally called Pike and Shot 2 and is for Shogun 2 and not Attila

Thanks. That's what links are for. For some reason my Google search didn't take me to the right steam workshop. Perhaps because the words were reversed.

@@sculptor682 take the mod db download though. That's the current version. Workshop one is not updated yet. Guys added the Ottoman Empire and PLC with the last update. Also FINALLY Daylo put Pappenheim into the Bavarian roster too Edit: Just checked the workshop is up to date now but only links to mod db

Wait a tick, the Talking Balaclava is a Total War nerd and a Pike and Shot nerd? Surprised no one else spotted you.

@@demomanchaos wish tercio gameplay was better in MTW2. It's a sick part of history that gets overlooked a lot.

@@AdministrativeResults The problem with pikes in M2 is their secondary weapon, the soldier AI loves to swap to it over keeping their pike out which makes vanilla pikemen so weak. Mods like Conquest and others revoke that backup weapon forcing them to keep their pikes out. That change alone makes a HUGE difference in their viability. I need to try this mod out though, was pondering making one of my own (Kind of did with the old Portugal mod, modded that one a fair bit as a basis) but mine would use vanilla assets since I can't do more than fuss with the data files.

@@demomanchaos I'd like to use a mod, to use them now I double stack them. Usually helps in vanilla

@@AdministrativeResultsDo you straight double stack on top of each other or make the frontline of the second unit just behind the frontline of the first?

This guns are in this early Period Hellas inaccurate. There where jokes about Muskets that came later that it is safer to stand in Front of the Barrel then far away from it

@@pascalheinrich3990 i know that. It just looks weird in this form, especially when this was a period where some gunners would purposely miss, because of religious reasons, they where afraid to kill other people. You would only really get this close if one party was charging the other, like would be seen later around the 1700s. Muskets in base shogun 2 have always had poor range however

Because New Spain and La Habana in Cuba were so much rich than the poor broke ass 13th colonies that they dont like that. Also, in europe, as it was ruled by Spain in the west and Ottos in the east, englad was a minor power, and as they rule the propaganda, they dont like that

Its the right one ...

Just battles for now

Campaign is apparently coming... Someday.

Were added 2 weeks ago

Older version is, current one is coming in couple days.

Yes

i bought it but thy speak japanese@@therac197

Were added back in August...

Of course it doesn't. There is no pike and shot focused Total War that has the proper mechanics to represent this style of warfare.

@@pl-AthEE_Three exactly

Not if there were actual pike and shot mechanics in the game. Thus far a game like that just doesn't exist.

It would be the most interesting total war, not just in equipment, but it geopolitics, religions, naval, tactics, if you haven’t, study some of the battles and especially sieges of the 16th and 17th centuries.