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There's lies, then there's damn Tory Brextard lies

But the problem is that people don't want to be Told the truth, they will still vote for the scumbags who got them into this mess. Wait until the tories start to dismantled the NHS, what happens then.

Not the £400billion spent by Sunak and the closing down the economy for 2 years? It was a couple of week of Truss who didn't change anything? Are you mentally okay?

This says it all, a nation full of simpletons.

They’re nothing but votes to her

They should put her forward for election.

@@stewgai The EU is struggling, too. German here. But uniting is always a good idea. I was so devasted, when England left. A good partner and neighbour lost.

Leaving it wasn’t the answer was it!

@@stewgai “EU isn’t the answer though is it…” Actually it is. It will help the flagging UK economy grow and recover. More growth, more money, more food.

They took a lot of fish granted, from us in Ireland too, and our rivers are destroyed producing milk for the EU, but they made up for it in other ways, not least in trade, grants and even paying the fishermen to stop fishing (not a great solution, but it saved them from the foodbanks shown above) The EU is far from perfect, but it is backup when you get as low as these people have.

Same here. I was taken aback by the guy saying 'freedom'! We're full of that idiocy here.

Free to starve and live on the street, if you call that freedom.

I didn’t get it when he said “freedom!” either. As part of the EU, you are free to travel, live and work anywhere in Europe, to trade and run businesses. If anything, brexit has caused a total lack of freedom, and shackled people’s hands behind their backs

@@skylar_kada well one group became a lot more free; large corporations didn't have to comply with many of the EUs market regulations, labour legislation and consumer protection policies. Oh they're free alright, free to make a killing at the expense of the living standards of the British working class.

Here in the US "freedom" is a code word for something else. The people who use the word "freedom" in the US are mostly white people.

You mean fishing gave Grimsby its raison d'etre. Brussels extended the sea borders when Britain joined EEC in 1973 and effectively grabbed the fish that way. British governments of both complexions have been feeble and betrayed the fishermen though in theory we have the power to rebuild that industry. EU takes, it never funds nations to operate independently.

Maritime laws - Which the Tories don't own...

What are you talking about the EU killed Grimsby after 73 Grimsby never recovered it was betrayed and then brexit destroying whatever is left

@@chazzerbox131 British governments killed British industries. Not the EU, the British. Every single time, and you're still falling for it.

​@@chazzerbox131I'm sorry to hear that it happened here in America too we have a rust belt and lots of people lost high paying working class jobs

100% behind you there mate. Shame that some people will blindly defend the indefensible even when the facts and truth are laid out on the table.

@@myce-liam we call them Remainers, desperately trying to make out that everything bad is due to Brexit, whereas we're actually suffering because of the Tories, global events, and the legacy of the EU

Won't change a thing, though. Sometimes there's no 2nd chance, or at least not for 2 generations. Greetings from the EU

@@EllieD.Violet agreed

But do you have any respect for the other way around? Remainers who would vote leave should there be another referendum , there's plenty of them.

It's the Univesa; Credit start. They make you wait 5 weeks with no money. Cruel.

It's a disgrace 😕

It's even worse here in the United States. I know not everyone is happy in the UK about NHS, but here we have nothing like that.

@@allenmaa7064 That's why even though the NHS is struggling, I still appreciate the fact that we have it.

Sorry everybody matters,soldiers no more or less than anyone else,stand together because the Cons rely on people being divided.

And sadly, if you watch this video, its clear that a lot of people who voted for Brexit were already in dire strates and were promised things wold get better if they voted for it, and then were promised a similar thing with Johnson in 2019. Both times these people were lied to and were duped. Its cruel tbh.

Because Brexit didn't cause this, a reluctance to pursue British independence did this. Britain surrendered its fishing waters to continentals, destroyed its own energy grid, and locked the economy down for two years while recklessly debasing the Pound. This is a result of a failure to deliver on Brexit, not of Brexit itself.

Spot on. The leave campaigners abused the abused, people with low sense of self worth, had difficult life from an early age. The tragedy is they are vulnerable and will continue to be.

@@thenneklkt7786 What is "deliver on brexit"? UK broke its ties with EU ie it brexited. The final nail in that coffin was nailed in 2020 when the transition period ended. How many more years will be needed to "deliver on brexit" and what is it that has not yet been delivered?

@@trident6547 I literally listed some of the shortcomings. Britain was to be competitive in its own fishing waters again, and be free of extensive regulation. The red tape hasn't gone away, and institutions like the ECHR continue to overrule British institutions.

The people who voted for them and for Brexit have done this.

It's not just the Tories, nor is it predominantly Brexit, but rather 40 years of neoliberal policy and the financialisation of the broader economy. Of course Labour would borrow more for less austerity, but that's just kicking the can down the road. Probably less pain in the short term but not a solution in the current economic climate. There's really no way out of this that doesn't involve a massive reset. Unfortunately it's the assetless class that will bear the brunt of it.

Financial Crash -> Austerity -> blaming the EU for the consequences of Austerity -> Brexit -> Tory political collapse -> Austerity 2.0? 🤔 Summary of Britain since 2008.

The realisation of tory government curruption Is not easy for people but part of the healing process is getting rid of them.

@@chekhovian3226 If you voted for Brexit, you need to take responsibility. This wasn’t just the Tories

Xenophobia mostly, coupled with lies from political elites desperate to stop EU taxation laws from being introduced.

That's a billion dollars?

Greed and racism

Most people are either not remotely engaged in politics outside of elections and/or not well educated enough (thanks to the government and lack of funding & opportunities more so than anything else) so they are easily impressionable. That's why a good communicator and someone who seems relatable - the sort of lad you'd grab a drink with eg Boris, Farage) - easily win elections, while the likes of Starmer, Miliband, Brown and others struggle. The former spout stuff that you and I know to be total bollocks but a lot of people easily fall for it because the message is full of hope and easily digestable, I'm not trying to denigrate anyone with this narrative of "oh look how smart I am, you're so thick" but it's how it goes. Then, those of us who voted for Remain or not-the-Tories feel massively pissed off and release our justifiable anger at those that voted the "wrong" way instead of the people who misled them in the first place, the divisions in society increase, and the cycle repeats itself all over again.

It made apparent sense for the fishermen because when the UK joined the EU it had to open its territorial waters to fishermen from the rest of the EU. That ended up undermining the viability of the UK fishing fleet. However that was a long time ago and the industry has evolved. So leaving the EU didn't turn back the clock but simply made the current situation even more difficult.

I visited England in summer of 1999. I was surprised the at the level of poverty in this 1st world country, especially in the north.

Thanks for your sympathy. It's needed.

@@carylhalfwassen8555 there has always and will always be a level poorer families there has been since the turn of the 20th century and this has nothing to do with Brexit, but lack of education, too many children being born, lack of respect for your area. And before you judge me my family would be regarded as living in poverty but we had no benefits that today's families have today, my mum just went to the grocers/butchers and got the off cuts and vegetables that would have been thrown out, and she didn't turn up in a Mercedes car to a food bank, which I have witnessed myself.

@@digitd4663 Your mam kept one of the vegetables ?

@@petermclelland278 Quelle?

You may join Europe again but you must remain in the UK.

It's up to themselves if they want to stay in the UK with a referendum. But of the 3 I think it would be impossible for Wales to join the EU on itself because of the borders.

That was a lie Johnson told. I’m not English but do remember Johnson saying nothing will change.

It's right up there with the thought that you can permanently reduce the tax base and greatly increase state borrowing without seeing the market add on a risk premium to gilt yields.

best club is the world club- thats the 169countries not in the EU

But the brits are special. They are invites in for free everywhere surely.

@@jonsimmons4150 I have no idea that your recent club stopped you from enjoying other clubs?

There's pet experts of lobby groups though, like Minging Minford who favoured Brexit when his model predicted British manufacturing would cease after Brexit

@@RobBCactive As always. Yet the vast majority of experts, specially independent ones, agreed Brexit would have terrible consequences in the UK. One of Boris Johnson's greatest lies was to convince voters to be their own experts. Even when the majority of them barely new anything about the EU beyond Wikipedia.

@@RobBCactive aren't they in a minority though, usually? THere are also pet "scientists" who ignore climate change, but it's a very small but vocal group.

The experts that said BLM protests are alright because racism is “a public health issue”, while people’s relatives were dying in isolation?

@@operaforlife6551 Yes, the problem though is climate denial "scientists" were given equal platform despite being unqualified in the subject area and paid for by fossil fuel lobbyists. Media needs competent people to weigh up the field, distinguish between the good and the misleading.

I felt for him

but you see the upside, the Tories love it if he gets killed as a hero, who told you they want him back alive and needing food!

They didn't believe this would happen.

Yup. There's a reason why house owners are rapidly putting solar panels up, even when it means that you have to get a loan

@@berniethekiwidragon4382 because they ignored all the experts and believed the BS peddlers. is that my fault?

@@kanedNunable Not at all.

@@kanedNunableyes

I've no sympathy for them

It’s not the countryside… and u do know that the rest of the country has been in managed decline since thatcher, benefitting London and forcing everyone to move there to find a decent job because other places don’t have the same investment. It’s not just down to Brexit and u can’t blame normal ppl when it’s been happening for decades

this is also happening in the US too. The poorest 9 states are deeply conservative and controlled by MAGA Trumpists. But what funny is that, they aware that they kinda vote against their own will (i.e. economic and welfare policies) just so they can disagree with liberal social issues like abortion and LGBTQ issue. All is disguised under the name of "Jesus" and the church. The whole church and GOP are responsible behind this.

They were warned, but they still kamikazied themselves.

Yeah, it was widely known that Brexit was going to disproportionately impact poor areas

What a crap comment, no real knowledge of its origin at all.

its crimbo 365 days a year for the brits! yay!!!!

I had to read twice to get it...😂😂

@@edbernie9675 As a Brit I shouldn't be laughing at that but...........

Germans usually live well

The "great" Imperial times were paid for by the colonies, certainly not by anything much generated within Britain.

@@johnhammond5379 If thats the case, why do those old colonies keep demanding more "developmental money" from britian? Shouldnt they be rolling in cash and not needing britains constant funding? Lets cut all the foreign grants we make

@@johnhammond5379 Which colonies? Many of our former colonial projects were more of a deficit than a benefit; look at the revenue generated for our African possessions.

@@AndrewArminRyan It wasn't tho, if you look at pure official statistics for tax and administration costs, maybe. But you're not taking over Nigeria because you want tax money, you go there for the resources. The real benefit from the colonies came in through the forms of mining concessions and other such stuff.

@@laqueefasteinberg4981 During the colonial era, Britain siphoned off resources and commodities from the colonies to benefit our own economic interests. By the time we left these colonies to return to nations of their own, there were often either pre-existing (pre-colonial) or newly created (during/post colonial) divides that hindered growth and caused war that we’re still experiencing today. Even if these conflicts resolve themselves, new ones arise and/or governments destabilise because there’s no longer any resources left, no commodities left to sell, and no foundations to join the global economy that former colonial countries created because their economies weren’t only built on their own resources, but the resources of others. And if by ‘foreign grants’ you mean foreign aid, I guess you’re sitting happy knowing that most of the UK’s foreign aid budget isn’t in fact going to foreign countries to provide basic infrastructure that we take for granted, but is in fact going towards the housing of asylum seekers in hotels because our pathetic government can’t sort out the immigration system and correctly fund policing of people smugglers.

Blame the tories

@@marcusgarvey7588 I do !

@@marcusgarvey7588 Wrong. Blame the voters.

Europe is broke with no commodities to trade from From west Africa 🦅

Europe is broke with no commodities to trade from From west Africa 🦅

The E.U isn't just a trading block but a political union where its law is supreme it has its own diplomatic service with ambassadors around the world essentially a government without a country.

@@nudgenudgewinkwink3212 this is what Brexidiots actually believe.

@@nudgenudgewinkwink3212 Which of your new freedoms are you enjoying most?

@@gavinw3277 Being able to have a say about if we want to keep VAT or replace it with something else, Or how about the rules on state aid in which the U.K has a much freer hand to help a struggling company or industry.

@@nudgenudgewinkwink3212 Yes, these are some *theoretical* benefits. How have they impacted you? We have seen the economic chaos brought about by leaving pretty clearly, and it's only beginning. I was hoping to hear about how you had *in practice* benefited from Brexit.

We're worse off. We have less industry and resources per person AND more mouths to feed due to 90 years of population increase.

@@2thre3 yeah blame it on population don’t forget next time the moon as well 🫵

My Grandparents were in their 30s in the 1930s and lived on the opposite side of the Humber, and I think you're correct. I see some strong similarities. But my Grandparents never voted for their own poverty.

Only without strong unions, so many will end up relatively worse off.

but more people supported remain than leave so why didn't they vote they avoided the polling booths in their masses.

I'd also say the lack of awareness of what's happening... The woman who said she avoids watching the news is probably the most effected by what's on it. Just a shame people are so checked out that they are making things worse by not caring.

Apathy in everything is the hall mark of Britain .They sit and watch TV , drink a cuppa and whine .Pro -. active they are not and few ever were .Let someone else do it .Any conman is OK with them .

No, voting for the Tories and Labour is what keeps this country in the shit.

Yes I agree with you about this in the USA the Republicans have armed tugs keeping people from voting. People must own the problem and vote accordingly.

Problem is that the Labour Party cater to the same interests as the Tory party and still don't offer the correct solutions. Working class people in places like Grimsby are more likely to recognise this than middle and upper class people as their needs become ever more urgent.

We’re watching a country being destroyed from within. They can’t point the finger at the EU anymore.

Please please tell me this is a joke.

@@maryknight6431 United Ireland, and independent Scotland. 😂😂 Go out and support your Heat banks.

@@maryknight6431 It's a joke with a serious intention Mary.

@@capedcrusadergrimsby Is it a joke?

look at the press. they lose millions a year to corrupt the public's opinions.

it still astonishes me how people in the foodbank queue (pink coat) can afford ciggies or why somebody in the foodbank queue hide their face so as not to be recognised.

@@davidlancaster4476 Because a smoke or a cuppa tea are a great comfort to any man or woman ..Are you so far out of touch with t he working class that you dont know that ,

@@johnlittle2406Are these people working?

What happened to "I'd rather eat grass!"

Nothing to do with covid lock downs! Forgotten all that already? Also nothing to do with the fact that all the EU is feeling exactly the same at this moment, funny how people who 'love' the EU are completely oblivious to anything that is actually happening over there right now.

nothing to do with Brexit, Grimsby has always been like this, I've never known it any different

@@elwoodbluesmorris2120 Wake up from planet Tabloid! Fishermen were warned of loss of markets. The OBR report puts Brexit -4% GDP, Britains are £1,000's worse off. Europe grew again after Covid, the UK has been in last place since 2016. People like you have done REAL damage and should be subject to massive tax surcharges.

Grimsby was always kinda like this but it's now worse than ever due to Brexit and the resulting chaos since. Both takes are valid.

I have crazy Brextarded relations who were in farming, believed all sorts of BS and thought Brexit was "going alright" in 2018. Now .. conspicuous silence.

Brexshit and boris is the rallying cry of a failed country.

Its really due to alot of racism in the North that voted for Brexit rather than logic. David Cameron's fault was to bet on the better instincts of people.

@@RobBCactive This is what baffles me. Farmers were collecting £thousands in EU subsidies, plus grants and other assistance, and were able to sell their goods within one of the biggest trading blocs on the planet, right next door, without reams and reams of paperwork (except the essential documents, of course), and all the EU asked in return was to follow basic food hygiene standards. Four decades later, farmers voted to throw all that away for a vague "promise" of no paperwork and global markets for their food. Instead, they got more paperwork for their biggest markets, lost their subsidies (did they REALLY believe a Tory Gov't would pay equal subsidies?) and the promised global markets never appeared. Then EU customers got p*ssed off with the paperwork and bought from other EU countries..... The sad thing is all this was so predictable and predicted, but dismissed as "Project Fear".....

Then voted Tory!

lets face it, the EU got now more money for less people to take care of...so thx a lot for Brexshit!

Guess what?- Tories are getting close to ZERO SEATS this upcoming election as punishment!

Did they get what they voted for? Didn't they vote to stuff the rest of Europe, stuff solidarity, take back what's "ours" ? Well they've got it. They should be happy. Pity the people who are suffering who didn't vote for the shitshow.

The problems in the UK have nothing to do with Brexit. It's about war, money creation and debt. Inflation in the EU is worse than the UK.

@@Leo-sx1ds You poor soul. There aint too many food banks in Ireland. There are some but it is a minority issue.

only just started Raymond- Albania, and north Macedonia are inbound to the EU shortly- and they ain't a gonna be heading easily soon to the UK-to get to the UK it will be visas etc.. they'll be heading to Ireland. to live an a work..

@@jonsimmons4150 We are badly short of labour but we are badly short of housing. Strangely, the biggest influx of people over the last 10 years has been English. There are 230,000 English nationals in Ireland with 180,000 employed. It outstrips all other immigrants.

No no they had the same information available that the rest of us did. Google has mass information if you do the research. You don’t need a GCSE in politics to understand how catastrophic Brexit was going to be for the country. Conservatives NEVER serve the people, that’s been true through out history. These people were led by their anti-immigration views . I have no empathy for people who voted Tories and Brexit because the whole country/people are suffering because of their choices.

As time goes on, i'm of the increasing opinion that people should do a basic examination before they are allowed to vote. Especially if democracy is to survive in this murkey future of social media driving populism. Otherwise, people simply hinge the future of a country based on a Prime Minister's personal charisma and 3 word slogans.

@@Monkeyatemysoul23 Many of us could see what was happening - but millions only see politics out of the corner of their eyes. Hence the need for education.

The lack of general education in Britain is more apparent than ever. The education system in this country seems to be really poor. It fails to teach critical thinking.

@@AK-zh1co They love con artists and here is the result .Were the toxic clown to return with his act they'd vote again ..

I've heard of the Irish Gaelic language and have no idea what that is

the UK hard times coming from 12 years of Tory government...

And the most Googled terms in the UK one day after Brexit were 'what is the EU' and 'what does the EU do'.

Europe is broke with no commodities to trade from From west Africa 🦅

Right-wing media is all-powerful. Thank Rupert Murdoch.

i can't figure out anything about this place, and i live here. Give up, or you'll waste fifty years on it!

Truss was pro remain in 2016. She picked whichever side she thought would win.

The will of the people. Don't blame politicians.

@@jerryorange6983 The politicians just used the strong resentment towards neoliberalism and the 2008 crisis to rile up the masses. Brexit is just another example of the big lie...

It's the whole notion of 'this great nation' that got us in to this mess. That notion can be shoved where the sun never shines.

@@jerryorange6983 49% to 51%, any sane politician would have called it a draw, but the people in power wanted Brexit so they let it stand.

That’s what the government does, uses you and then spits you out. You end up with nothing.

Ex servicemen get A1priority on housing when they leave the forces. If he is homeless he has other problems that have led him the re

@@tutorsteve he didn't say he was homeless, just skint

Serving his country or serving western oligarchy by invading, pillaging and destroying foreign countries who never hurt the UK?

It's the same in the U.S. There are people willing to work. I have a job, and my hours have been cut back drastically. We have a large available workforce but each person is only being allowed 15-20 hours a week, at a low wage. The corporation is trying to get by, using the minimum workforce, and making the workload so much harder on each person. This is a company that can afford to be fully staffed. Their managers and mid management are the ones getting full time hours.

Dreaming is what caused these problems. Try thinking, planning and working instead.

They cannot stop that .Learn a second language / have a skill and go .Chasing dreams is for children You need a plan and a second language .As you are in France I'm in Germany and have been a teacher here for years .Return to UK NEVER

I hope you will be able to return to a independent Scotland soon my friend and give Thatcher the two fingers. Saor Alba from Ireland.

@@Rampart.X well my Dream lead me to the Alps and then a whole lot of positive thinking, energy, planning and working followed suit. No regrets. go try open a business or be a British Ski/Snowboard instructor in the Alps now m8.

@@lostinfrance9830 so you followed your dreams for your own enjoyment. Well done. Very civic minded.

My thoughts exactly. This sort of compassionate, human truth-telling is much needed to break the bubble that politicans live in.

It's from the trenches and it's heartfelt, it's a pity tory members haven't the bottle to come and see how lies affect people, and how giving false hope, does nothing but create despair.

@@neurojitsu It's not a "bubble", they're not the ones who are "out-of-touch" like that guy said, when will you guys figure this out? *They played you* It's as simple as that, you guys are out-of-touch and need to learn Stop believing the Tories and thinking they're just making mistakes when they rob you blind The gullible brexitters dragged us all down by following a political character, just like the MAGAts

@@fredzep01 My comment applies to you, too

As long as they accept that bit of adversity, and don't expect Remain voters to share the burden!

Guilty on this sign of pond. Didnt get fooled second time. PRAISE GOD

"There's an old saying in Tennessee-I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee-that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me-you can't get fooled again.

Most have never heard of it. Or Libertarianism. Or Ayn Rand, whose books Sajid Javid apparently used to read aloud to his fiancee, before she told him that if he persisted the wedding was off ......

They basically forgot their own history of how they've got their wealth

Yep, no need of experts (sarcasm). Selfmedicate, build your own house, build your own car, tailor your own clothes, grow your own food. Why need experts! Sadly, this attitude towards educated people expert in their area of knowledge is more and more widespread in the entire world. What happenned to respecting education?

Agree!

"Who would’ve thought it’ll turn England into a third world country..." Everyone who voted Remain.

There is no instant fix for any of this.

if we were not paying billions of £ a year for illegal/financial immigrants that money would be free for other more necessary and valuable causes. !!!!!!

@@richardwilson5330 If Rishi Sunak hadn't given tens of billions to his mates in fraudulent PPE contracts (with the blessing of Boris), we'd also have a lot more money for more necessary and valuable causes. If Truss hadn't caused almost 40% of pensions to become bankrupt, who were only saved by billions being given by the Bank Of England, then we'd also have a lot more money.

You've hit the nail on the head there

Just hope your pension is secure - many aren’t.

Good luck to you , have a happy life 😊.

Have you relinquished your British passport?

. Good 👍 on you.......

I envy you. Empty shelves. Food banks everywhere. Now we have 'warm' banks so that people don't freeze. It's absolutely unbelievable.

And dragged the rest of us down.

Well done, mate. I started Spanish lessons the day after the referendum, and moved here 18 months later. No need to waste your sympathy on people who "were not informed". Why don't you feel aggrieved that they didn't inform themselves. Are they more stupid than you, or me, or 16 million people who voted Remain? Or were they blinded by their own greed and national self-importance, their lack of solidarity, lack of empathy. ¿No?

This isn't because of brexit bud....! It's because of the greedy.

@@kashukichu No the root cause of the social and economic problems in the UK is BREXIT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

so- when Catalan votes in a referendum to become independent, independence gets it over the line, fully legal.. you have it cancelled then? sure you are in spain and not a south American country somewhere??

@@jonsimmons4150 Are you replying to me mate? Catalonia already declared independence, so for me they can sod off already. I accept their declaration. I will never visit there, I endeavour not to do business with there.

Every country lost people to covid but most had a decent government ---

Duped over Brexit and duped by anti-vax/Covid denial. Double happiness !

Are they, though? I never heard that opinion voiced in the whole report. They feel sorry for themselves, for not getting what they were promised. Not one of them said, "Now I see the benefits of being a Member of the EU". I don't think that thought will ever occur to them.

True, but they very loudly,and many aggressively, resisted any education whatsoever. Any understanding or empathy is hard to find.They were told time and again how important to them trade with Europe was and is.

You're correct. At the same time, what a mass failure to do your basic democratic duty to be an informed voter. I don't know how much sympathy I have for people who willingly shoot themselves in the foot. There are many people elsewhere in the world who deserve that compassion far more

Spot on ! One never knows what one has ...... until it's gone !!

@@sandybowyer7941 Unless we've taken the trouble to find out! I doubt that a tenth of the electorate really looked into the costs and benefits of EU membership before voting. I read a book about it that seemed to cover most of the bases but even that failed to mention the special situation that Northern Ireland is in. But at least some of us made an effort. I ended up 60:40 in favour of Remain; these days I'd be 90:10. I hadn't realised just how bad it would be. So I suppose you are right!

Blame globalisation and the Internet

@@nudgenudgewinkwink3212 Rubbish. Go to any middle sized town in western Europe. They are booming.

@@kirishima638 evidence please I was in Italy 2 weeks ago and it ain't!

@@kirishima638 That's complete rubbish, there are huge protests all over Europe against the cost of living.

@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 The cost of living crisis is impacting everyone, yes, but not nearly as badly as in the UK.

hadn't we been throwing billions, (that we don't have), around to pay businesses to stay closed, and for people to sit around and do nothing for the first two+ years of it? Cheered on, & wanting more by the authoritarian, remainer types BTW. Add to that, the astronomical fraudulent cases but unsurprisingly, "the markets" didn't have a meltdown over those costs. I was having many though. Plus we obviously have politicians/ civil servants, & most unions who have never got over us leaving, so are now taking advantage of these pandemic debts & useless leaders, to get their revenge and destroy the country they've always hated so much. You aren't gonna get much "benefit" from that are you?

Oh I feel so sorry for you.

You want him to be miserable with all of us in UK?!! That’s the spirit 🤣😂😅👍

Fine. Stay away.

@@routeman680 I think you have missed the point. We are all from UK stock and don’t want our relatives to be having a hard time.

@@routeman680 many are and will. Leave us in our Grimsby misery

I agree with you

You need more immigration to solve your housing problems.

Spot on.

Andrew, the common trait here is completely ineffective and self serving politicians, proof is here, when left.to.good people things get done, give them the resources and watch them do what needs to be done, every single area both in Ireland and the uk knows whats needed on a local level, not some.gobshite politician.who.spends his / her time in London or Dublin....

Well put.

So almost half of the population...

@@renaissancewooman5807 Half of the electorate. In 2016 there were some 46,5 million voters. Of these 73,2 % turned up on referendum day to vote. Of these rougly 34,5 million votes about 52% were for brexit and some 48% against. Brexit won with some 17,4 million votes while remain had some 16,1 million. At that time uk had a population about 66 million so 25-26% of the population voted for Brexit. No-one has published figures about the alignment of those 27% who did not vote at all. 12,5 million voters did not care what would happen.

Yep, turkeys voting for Christmas.

Absolutely. They KNEW the fishing rights had been sold to the EU decades ago by UK governments, all legally and with consent. They thought they could steal them back like pirates.

leftoids try not to totally despise the british public challenge (impossible)

@@thedemiurge170 When was stating simple facts 'despising' people?

@@alisonwilson9749 left wing people do hate Britain, always have.

Yeah I don't get why they're so unhappy. They were told this would happen and voted for it anyway.

Wasn't Brexit supposed to fix all the labour issues, increase wages and finally bring the 10% of the brits that live off benefits into the labour force? Oh wait, you need people that are actually qualified and actually want to work. What Brexit caused is a shortage of skilled labour, less taxes, companies scaling down or closing, and in the end, decrease in job demand in lots of domains/areas. Now, the lazy brits that live on benefits are still doing so, but the standard of living decreased, businesses and companies suffer from the shortage of qualified labour and state itself struggles due to tax income spiraling down.

tories taking us back to 1770.

Just keep ignoring the covid lock downs. They never impacted our economy at all.

@DoubtingThomas I disagree with you. Grimsby was a fish trading hub, fish from the EU/EEA was brought here for the British market and fish caught by British was sold to the EU. Those who owned British fishing quota sold them to Danish and Dutch fishermen. Brexit made sales to the EU complicated. The catch of Danish and Dutch now goes straight to the continent. Brexit did not cancel the contracts between British and EU fishing companies. Fishermen in Grimsby were already doing bad while in the EU because of big British companies selling their quota. Now, after Brexit, even the trade was hit in an enormous way. The few remaining fishermen cannot get rid of their fish to the EU. So it's a double strike to them. Trade went down to half and value to a third. That took away many jobs. I do agree in the fact that there is a tension to "Told you so, and you wouldn't listen. Now eat your sh*t!". Which is not contributing towards a solution. But it is necessary to make people aware that a wrong choice will have consequences. Especially when they are still in denial. Like an alcoholic who cannot be helped as long as he thinks the bottle will solve his problems. Every investment is a waste of effort. On the other hand, I do not see any structural plans by the left that offer real solutions. The state of the UK at this moment, would be an enormous opportunity to present a completely new approach. But the left doesn't seem to dare turning into another direction. They are stuck in their own 'old fashioned' way of thinking. And I do not see a rise of 'new left' in the UK, it is still in the margins. There are not even plans for political reforms. And being realistic, the message from the left has to be 'we cannot fix this in five years, it will get worse before you notice improvement', and such a campaign will not do well, though deeply needed.

@DoubtingThomas it was a mistake to vote brexit , but it sure looked intended when they voted tories after to "get brexit done" , innit?

@DoubtingThomas i am very tempted to get my citizenship and help them achieve their goals by voting tory.i mean , i have an eu citizenship, i can go back to Europe if things go very , very bad , but boy o boy , what I won't give up on just to hear them say "i regret voting brexit"...

@@dutchman7623 Because people prefer sweet lies to the harsh truth. Hence the suffering.

We had Corbyn. You know how that went 😔.

Forde's report on Labor. Corbyn would have win the elections if not for the heavy artillery from the right and the press AND his own party. The country and the people's day to day lives would be vastly different. See the matress of public helps the frenchs get, even with this banker as their head of state...

@@nadinekhaznadar5758 Yes. Sadly I do know exactly how that went. That's why this ludicrous "first past the post" system has to be reformed.

@@alkante2962 It is a rather sad state of affairs isn't it. We really need an overhaul of the electoral system in this country.

Scotland does thank goodness for the SNP. Now before any Yoons jump on this here's a few facts. The SNP led Scottish Government has done away with Tuition fees, Scrapped the disgusting use of Warrant sales, scrapped having to pay for parking in Hospitals, scrapped prescription charges, scrapped the bedroom tax, has given people under the age of 22 free bus travel and built over 70,000 social housing, given all women free sanitary products and all mothers are given Baby boxes and they have done so much more.

The EU is just a pointless layer of bureaucracy which appears to 'solve' problems which are caused by too much government in the first place.

lol

English people are very tolerant I'm one of them

Decades of conditioning to believe in a natural order. It wasn't even hard. People will walk onto cattle trains now.

Protesting doesn't work in the country. What we need is a revolution.

You can oust the current government in what is called an election. Most people in the UK accept election results.

Why because not everyone is in a desperate situation like this film portrays.

its a shame, no Tory will ever see it!

They certainly hadn't got any better under the EU. You throw about a lot of straw men while offering no facts or evidence to support you own claim. In my experience, this is the typical low level of debate to be expected from an arrogant Remainer.

Yep

Thank you for your contribution. Ignore the ignoramus.

@J LH Sorry, but I am Grimsby born and bred, it was the cod wars with Iceland that destroyed the fishing fleets in Grimsby, long before the EU.

@J LH As I said, I'm from Grimsby, I have family and friends that use to go to sea, I do not need lectures on the fishing industry in Grimsby. The Grimsby fishing fleet use to fish off Iceland, but they decided to increase their territorial waters around Iceland excluding our trawlers from fishing there, the so called "cod wars". This is what led to the decline in the Grimsby and Hull fishing fleets. They lost the rich fishing grounds around Iceland and their livelihoods. On the issue of the decommissioning money, this was given directly to the trawler owners with the idea of paying the fishermen compensation. They won a case in the courts that because the fishermen signed on every trip, they were classed as casual workers and weren't permanent employees and so were not entitled to compensation. So instead of paying the poor fishermen the compensation they deserved and were entitled to, they kept it for themselves. It is still a sore point here in Grimsby, the fishermen that risked their lives fishing in very harsh conditions in the artic in winter were left out of work and penniless while their employers pocketed a fortune that they should have had. Please stop blaming the EU for the decline in the Grimsby and Hull fishing fleets, all this happened in the 60's, long before the EU common fishing policy came into being.

John is the only member of The Guardian prepared to talk to real people. However he has an agenda (surprise!). He could go to Wicklow in Ireland, Germany (Frankfurt is a hole), the suburbs around French cities, ditto the Molenbeek district of Brussels, head north to Malmo, not forgetting Bari in Italy or anywhere in Romania or Bulgaria to put together an even more distressing piece.

But you had the sense to join the EU. We have just left it.

as a Brit, I wouldn't compare the Irish struggle to end colonial occupation of Ireland by Britain to the Brexiteers struggle to end EU domination and political subjugation of Britain (for starters the latter only existed in Brexit voters heads).

The difference being in those times it was just about possible to live on benefits. I have no idea how people manage these days.

We didn’t need or have the internet in those days - one less major expense and many less confusing avenues to go down. Plus much less access to serious drugs which eat you up. And lower expectations.

years of ever increasing prosperity... learn some history

It’s no different from when the English monarchs ruled the Island of peasants