From high ranked and highly paid, to an echo chamber of hatred. Want to support me further? I now have a Patreon. / kirayt ------------------------------------------------------------ #leagueoflegends #2023 #kira
I used to be like shaclone when i was about 14 years old. League was taking a toll on my mental and it sucked even more cause i was addicted. I still play it from time to time. like a couple of games every other month or so. but i have almost 0 joy while playing the game.
@@SaintNyx Nah, for me it's definitely the game itself. Been playing since season 4 and the game just doesn't have been feeling as fun as it did back then for years. All the champs i started to like got reworked massively, the old versatile rune and mastery system got reworked. Basically getting rid of a lot theory crafting. The game is riddled with bugs and it takes them too long to fix anything.
The saddest part about these kinds of people is that over such a long course of years, they haven't changed one bit, they still hold the same mentality and it honestly baffles my mind.
sometimes people dont want to change. they stay stuck in the same routine with the same people and there is nothing pushing them to do so. that prevents their own personal growth
This also is because the game didnt changed a bit, so if the condition and all the "injustice" you think u see didnt changed, u think ur right, and with the state of poisoning this dude reached, its really hard to get to the point and understand what the situation is. T1 redemption was that he kept a lot of succes during his "dark age", shaclone didnt and so he victimize himself more and more all the way downhill
@@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188 the game has changed constantly, from balance changes to entire map and champion reworks, new items, all sorts of things. This person is a narcissist and would bring this mentality to any competative game that he put this.much care into
Wait seriously? I mean I wouldn't doubt it after all this but goddamn that's a big accusation to throw against a RU-vid whose more popular than him, very easily able to take down that.
i wanna know if he believes the accusations he made or not. cuz that's what'll tell me if he's a malignant narcissist or an actual freakin psychopath lol
@@micahfoley9572 well he showed no actual evidence to the claims, and said it so offhand it's like he'd thought of it on the spot, so you can take that how you will
When you mentioned your own history with League, that hit hard, man. I had something similar, but not for League. I was just a toxic, rude person for most of my late teen years, but I eventually had stuff happen that made me rethink my life, and I decided I didn't want to be that way anymore. And when I see it still happening, all I can think is "thank God that isn't me."
I briefly felt sorry for the guy when Kira mentioned the 9 year gap. Then listened to him and realise he is a POS. Id be interested to know his background, family life n all cos, he seems to get popular with none of the consequences of talking crap to people. Apart from his bans, id love to have seen him get slapped about in public for talking like such a degenerate. Cancer like? suicide too? What a POS.
makes me remember my old best friend who was a dick all around until I just told him man I dont like being around you anymore you make every game(we played football soccer for USA)doesnt matter if we win or lose its just shittier not cause you dk how to play but cause when you f up its always everyone else fault and when you win it was all you ....he changed a lot after that talk and we still hang around like 10 years later glad you stopped before you become a perma dick like some people
I'm an ER nurse. I had a patient once who had cancer. He was a gamer. We were talking about league and other games and the toxic gaming communities. I'll never forget when he said, "I was playing games and was constantly told 'I hope you get cancer.' And here I am." And we both laughed.
@@zaktech7816 i am also a guy who gets paid to derank accounts to iron 4 for other players in higher elos to buy. glad im also causing damage to riot
Thank you for this. I needed to see this and it is a huge wakeup call for me. I'm deleting League of Legends right now and doing more important things in my life instead of wasting time again playing it.
@@KiraTV1 Thanks. It's been 9 months and I've already put on muscle, I'm pretty fit and I've used the time I use for leagues to put into other things like learning spanish, Japanese and playing great single player games and getting through my backlog. 🙂
It's crazy how many people here didn't know kira was well known in league years ago. I'm 30 now and quit the game years ago. It's the best thing I've ever done. Glad to see you are out here doing things kira. The last part where you speak on someone still stuck where they were 9 years ago is a common theme in life unfortunately
bruh them mfs look like they feel uncomfortable when they don't receive attention it's crazy. People that call any insecure self centered person a narcissist have never met true likely NPD case that is Shaclone. you start to see the actual disorder in the person
@@sup13462 tbf there's a difference between npd and narcisstic...a lot of people with big egos are narcisstic, and a narcissistic person can be a nightmare to deal depending on their degree of narcissism. Npd a whole different story it looks like genuine mental disorder of having a massive ego (I have what is likely an npd mother, it's almost surreal how she is)
I used to edit for him. You can see me credited on some of his old videos. It was a pleasant experience at the time. He treated me well and the content was fun to make. This was a couple years ago though.
Damn dude, you should be really proud of the respectable quality and quantity of your videos these last couple of months. I hope this major effort does translate into monetary success and growth for you, you'd deserve it.
I wish he would talk about things that actually mattered, subject and people that effect our everyday lives. Tf am I gonna do knowing about a raging soyboy?
@@twintrbo92 Everybody has his niche and I'm sure you find someone on this vast website that perks your interests. Or someone you like as a storyteller regardless of the subject.
@@feelincrispy7053 the LITTLE difference in your logic is that nobody asked him anything, when people say "i dont care" on their own volition after typing essays cursing someone its a sign they REALLY care lmao
Think about him throwing like this. He made his 4 teammates very unhappy...but he made his 5 opponents happy! It's a net gain of joy. What a great guy!
Reminds me of the time when I played a game 6v4, because one of players (I forget if they were on my team or not) wasn't just feeding, but went as far as to actively sabotaging the other team. Trying to remember if the four players won. lol
I was very unhappy when someone on the enemy team leaves. I just pushed the lanes to end the game if people do not surrender. I didn't even tried to kill anyone. Kicking down someone is just not fun
I really love the direction you've taken your channel Kira. I mean I still enjoy and miss the crypto/kickstarter scam type videos, but this is great too. It's clear how much effort you put into your content. I hope you sometimes still put out content similar to what you used to, but you're great at the video essay format as well. I will say however, I miss you actually being on camera. Whatever direction you go, I and many others will be here to support you.
Yeah, he still does much of the same on the other channel that's just called Kira. Props to the guy for being honest about sometimes putting out stuff because it's what the people want and brings in the cash, other times looking at whatever waifu games are on Kickstarter just because he feels like it. The content on crypto/scams will continue for as long as those things exist, i.e., forever.
What they say: "You're among 0.006% of players negative enough to get banned" What it means: "You're among 0.006% of players that has been granted salvation and saved from self-destruction"
Quitting League for good was one of the best experiences I've ever had in my gaming history. It felt like I removed a heavy weight from my soul. I couldn't say I was addicted to the game, but I felt the need to play it regularly. And it always ended in the same way. I was playing the game for a couple of months and then I was becoming bored of it or frustrated with it. Now this is not happening anymore. On the contrary, quitting League actually gave me more time to try new games and to focus on my personal life. Although, one thing needs to be clear. The game itself is not even that bad; what makes it insufferable is the awful community that surrounds it. And the adjacent parts of League, such as champion themes and animated shows like Arcane, are amazing and I believe they will remain this way for years to come.
@@blank2541 Thing is, almost none of my friends play League anymore. And even if they do, they rarely play. So the only way for me was to go solo, which is such a degrading experience.
I also think League is a great brand on it self, but ranked is so hard to get into. After you get into it its so hard to stop. I used to play like 6 hours a day raging and denying it was my fault that i was hardstuck gold. Thank god I stopped playing regularly when I started going to college.
eh league is ruined by the counity but by riot balancing the game in a toxic way that suits korean and chinese playstiles. these flashy new champs with 100 different abilities, evety champ can 1 shot everyone and so on. riot brought this upon themselves, and their refusal to add voice coms to the game just dehumanizes the game eve further and then half of the playerbase reaches a point where this shaclone is.
There should be a term "League disorder". I used to play lol and there are so many people who behave the same way in chat. This can't be normal. No other community, that I'm aware of, reaches these insane volumes of toxicity. I guess the game is just extremely addictive and people can't stop even when they hate it.
@@lillyie yea those weebs get really angry and breathe really heavy while smacking insults into their keyboards cause you dared to question why they jerk it to a "2000 year old" goddess that happens to have the body of a 6 year old girl
I remember Shaclone. He was blaming the game and Riot for his mental health and unhealthy lifestyle. I did too, but unlike him, I stopped playing the victim and quit the game. He really opened my eyes in one of his many rants/monologues when he said “I haven’t eaten healthy, something like an apple, because of this game for more than a month”. I literally talked to the screen and said “That’s is YOUR problem, look within. You can’t blame your diet on Riot Games”. He’s truly a crazy clown no pun intended.
I truly believe Shaclone is better than the players he plays with as I used to watch his games. But in this game you have be alot better than the others to climb out of your rank especially if you are playing many games. I had one account stuck in silver and another in low Plat that goes to show you the algorithm is not perfect.
@@coldprince130 It's not hard to climb if you're good enough.There are hundreds of players hitting chall back to back, or doing unranked to chall every season in multiple accounts. Your anecdotal experience doesn't reflect the reality.If you're a plat player it is impossible to be stuck in silver.
@@A-TALKING-TOASTERsome people don't like them. Nothing is hard about eating them. People choose to eat things they prefer the taste of. You ask stupid questions.
That narcissist prayer, damn, that's really good. I know a lot of people that fit this bill to a T. For those that missed it: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
man, this video has to be one of the more relatable ones. I remember playing league quite a lot back then and watching Shaclone for all the Shaco gameplay.
@@solo.99 I never watched or played LoL, but it makes me chuckle thinking how things are nostalgic even when they're trashy, which is common Ahhh the good Ole Days of LoL when you could call someone a f*ggot and tell them to KYS and no one batted an eye 🤣🤣🤣 For the record, I do miss how thick skinned people were when trade chats were cesspools of edgelords. Barren chat anyone?
The terrifying thing is I can see this person really hurting other people, that amount of rage and narcissism has no good outcome without help he will never look for.
No that's stupid. Saying dumb shit and hurting people are worlds apart. Trying to gauge whether a person is violent by the stupid shit they say leads to authoritarianism, and then worse violence enacted in the name of morals and ethics.
If he can even access it. People are always saying reach out! reach out! But then you can't afford any of the doctors, insurance, medications, or therapies then what? You can try and apply for government aide but it takes ages to even get a reply (the entire time you're not being treated) and they'll most likely deny you anyways. Still don't get why Americans wonder why there is a public mass shooting every week when this is the mental health system they have access too.
Well if they got hurt they should get over it and grow simple nd if they are bad at the game quit nd stop bring other players down you shouldn't make a mistake more than twice.
Quitting league of legends alongside with FIFA were the best gaming decisions I've made in my life. Those games destroyed so many days of my life, I couldn't deal with the competitiveness of those games and like any other addiction I couldn't stop and ended up feeling disgusted with myself. Gaming addiction is horrible.
It's not the competitiveness. League and similar games with less skill barrier to entry attracts players who want to dominate the game fast. Fighting games and RTS have high skill barrier to entry yet the community is less toxic because everyone wants to improve their own skill first and enjoys challenging matches
In my experience, you should considered add Yugioh Duel Links to the list. That game was a time and money sink, there was a time I cost 25% of my salary to it for 6 continously months but still cannot build a proper meta deck due to some needed character to grind and constant N-word during rank due to how a full meta deck wipe my deck. Finally, I gave up chasing new box and I got easier life.
As a shaco OTP I remember looking forward to this guys' videos back in 2016 and also slowly losing interest because of the toxicity. I mean you can always expect a certain amount of flame for the game but he was always an eyebrow raise.
I too can remember this guy. Watched a bunch of videos for a while, but eventually stopped, because he was so toxic. It completely ruined his videos for me.
Exactly. Its ok to be flawed, as long as you recognize it and try to be better. But Shaclone still (just watched him on Twitch to check) is still blaming everyone else. All of his favorite buzz words were used, subhuman, cancer, garbage, etc... And he was blaming "people like Kira" for his low viewship. He said all they do is try to ruin peoples careers with a garbage documentary, lol.
@@bluemyst42 i was WONDERING if he was going to throw a fit about this video ahahaha thanks for doing the work and checking for us so we don't have to poison our brains listening to him
I used to be so toxic. League was my life. I still struggle today when that part of me comes out. It's sickening. That degenerate shadow of what I once was is disheartening to look at. It all starts within yourself. You have to want the change.
@@Johnny-yx2qx I've never played LoL, but I'd say that it is not Leage or any other game doing that to you, but that they have the potential of bringing out the worst in you and it's you who decides if he allows this to happen or not.
@@Johnny-yx2qx Not really, league is just environment in which its easier for it to show up but if you worked on yourself before playing league and you are a chill person, league wont make you toxic. Everyone gets frustrated, the problem is that teens and children play this game when their brains are not fully developed yet and they have little impulse control, so when they get frustrated (as one will in League of Legends, that is a frustrating game) they act on it instead of just rationalise it and deal with those emotions. Im 28, Ive been playing for 3 years and sometimes I do get annoyed and talk to myself outloud to release the steam but I never write it down to teammates.
@@katie98711 same here mobas in general are quite toxic, just play it with the sport manship mentality you'll your highs and lows just dont push it too fair. And for me these type games are much more enjoyable with friends and the only thing keeping me around is my friends too.
Man, this was almost me about 3 years back when I was grinding this game almost daily, missed college, screwed up friendships because of my anger and toxicity in games and was always just a bit above Diamond. At one point I stopped and looked at myself and saw just how screwed up it all was, left the game for 4-5 months, only doing TFT, then came back and managed to separate the competitive side to the reality of it being just a game. Since then I play League from time to time and still get snappy, but I'll never, ever, get into that dark toxic place again. I feel sorry for this lad.
The thing is gaming is usless i almost throwed my life by not going to high school.but now i want to go uni, im not playing for 4 months now becaus i broke my finger my rank was master euw but i dont care about the game any more
Point made bruv... I've been watching you for a couple years now and I had no idea you played league. I know you've no doubt mentioned it or even made entire videos, but I missed it. I like what your doing now, and your vibe is refreshing to me. Congrats on recovery my dude! Addiction is addiction, and one former addict to another that shit ain't easy. And good luck with the health, I think we have the same thing going on.
@Just Chill it’s a pretty big deal losing all your skins, money 1000+ for most people, rare stuff, friends, champions, mastery, time spent and games, rank, general attachment to your account and more.
I remember watching him way back in season 3, 4, and 5. Man was it fun to watch him in the beginning but i noticed the cracks of the toxicity of him after a while. I was as well consumed by this game down to my core which made me play it for over 6 years and losing over 6000 hours in it. I left it behind and i'm happy i did since it made me a worse person. I'm sad that he is still in this circle of pain and suffering and i hope that he will at some point break it and get to live a better life.
I went thru this game as well, but i wouldnt call it as lost time, it was time enjoyed. Everybody had a game where there was no time to play cause you had to 'discuss' with your lane partner, but thats just lol... In my case, i would say it made me a better person, i can insult people with finesse without using insults, im resistant to most kind of this abuse and dont mind it, also able to strike back - simply im not a snowflake in this matter. Thats what lol does, it breaks people or forge them :D
same, League made me toxic to the point where the people who I used to play with just completely hated me because of how toxic I was while playing the game, its a very sad thing and took me years to overcome it :
I think this was a well put together video and i'm glad that you managed to pull yourself out of your pit of despair. Takes a lot of will power to do and even more to share. Gg dude.
Without sounding like a tin-foil-hat lord. The algorithm is more than "just another word for people". Key people/orgs/marketers/NGOs/lobbyists/governments DO have vested interests (granted, not in shaclown) but most certainly in curtailing and controling what is popular or even available on the interwebs (but, not shaclown). Through this sleight-of-hand on so many levels, subtle changes go un-noticed and become the norm, making a bird in the hand of us. Great video, awesome content, eye opening. Subscribed.
I hope he watches this video in its entirety, gets counseling and watches this video again. It won’t be easy, with him having avoided accountability for so long, but he should start now.
He did bro, watch it in his channel. Why that many people cares about shaclone business is my guestion. I didn't see him as the most toxic player on lol, not if compare with hastad and tyler1. Seing videos like that remembers me that one movie anger manager that everybody overeacting about everything.
@@tvbuu i see some racism in chat and people telling others to commit suicide and those players didn't get ban for months, yeah, he was toxic, but who never did it on stressfull games? It's natural to react agressively against agressive people right?
This video was put together SUPER well and it gave me a good perspective. You can be stuck in your ways for the time being but in the long run it wont ever benefit you. I legit just checked his channel and its so crazy to me how he has not changed at all. How can you go from getting 100k views per video to barley scratching 4k views and NOT think to yourself "damn I should really change how I am huh?" Like that's so crazy to me. I know tons of smaller channels(myself included) who bust their ass for their content and there are people like shaclone who has what others dream of and just piss it away.
Being the most toxic League of Legends player to the point that even the LoL community thinks you're bad is... well, not an accomplishment, but something. The journey to becoming the most toxic LoL player sounds like it'd make a great movie. Just a dude slowly self-destructing, in a community where everyone is erupting, and becoming lost in his own toxicity. I would unironically watch it with the right creators attached.
I cant believe i was soo deep into League ever. After quitting for 4 months i really never looked back at it ever and this video just proved to me that it was the best decision i ve made. My life is 10/10 much better without League and its sad seeing people like that wasting their life for that shit .... its insane. He really needs a reality check but i am afrait he is too deep into it
As a person that used to watch shaclone stream and watch his RU-vid videos every single day. I would stop doing everything to watch him. It's kinda sad to see somebody still going for this long and not realize what needs to be done :/
When you've reached the point you've told 1000s of people to off themselves for being bad at a game... how do you then acknowledge that you're the problem? I can't imagine any time he comes close to self-reflection, there wouldn't be a voice in his head saying all those vile things to himself that he said to other people. That seems like an extraordinary mountain to climb.
If you are master and above you are already better than most other players but honestly one can get there through various means, otp-ing is one of the many ways but the things about otp-s is that they know their champion inside and out. From an otp player perspective you are one of the best. I myself was rank 1 Soraka when I was Chall and reached #3. Realizing my childish dream and moving onto new games, after a while I did come back to league and although I am master in EUW I can easily tell who is inting or performing incredibly poorly. I no longer have the passion to carry games, I play to have fun and my fun is very easily ruined with incompetent decisions made by unexperienced players. Ranked for me is normal but with visible mmr.
Riot encourages toxicity. Example: I got jungle role Lock Lillia My ADC bans Lillia and picks Thresh They were a premade of 4 and all picked supports, they were trying to make me dodge so I picked Xayah with no smite They all went mid, feed nonstop Did I insult them? Yes. Once. I didn't say anything super toxic like cancer or drop dead or things like that. End result? They all 4 reported me and I got banned for 15 days So 4 guys decide to not play the game, troll the rest 6 players in the game, hijack me for 20 minutes. All withe one objective: ruin the game experience. And who gets punished? Ofc me!
This scenario is similar to what happened to videogamedunkey almost 10 years ago A malphite was inting and after dunkey raged on the chat he got suspended while the malphite was still allowed to keep playing the Game and after that he decided to quit league and everything got better for him not only on his channel,but on his personal life too Till this day some people on the comment section mentions that the malphite that caused that is still playing the Game.
What a fantastic video, very interesting view into a way of thinking foreign to me. When I used to play overwatch, the higher you climb the more unhappy teammates you get, never realized a lot of them were stuck in a negative feedback loop. I hope this guy can find peace one day
Gaming addition is tough. I have found a lot more balance in my life nowadays but I remember having a really difficult time with gaming addiction in my teens. I dunno if I just matured or whatever but I am able to moderate myself much better these days.
A wise man once said "It's just a game, why you have to be mad." I too was once incredibly addicted to league, i hit masters as my peak but after a week in masters the toxicity of the players seems to have skyrocketed. I wasn't having fun anymore, and i literally deleted my account to stop myself from playing a game i didn't have fun playing anymore. Edit: this was when league was still good in the season 5-8 days.
I'm a Dota player and i've only played LoL for about 6 months when it was first released, but still i can relate with the toxicity-argument and i believe it is an issue across-the-board when it comes to the MOBA genre... but i do believe there are different levels when it comes to toxicity and LoL is, no doubt, the highest level of it when it comes to MOBA games. Still, considering all the experiences i've had in both games, this guy seems to truly be on a league of his own.
Dota is just as bad imo - I still remember trying to get back into it, and just hear russians flaming me in voice chat for not perfectly denying enemy creeps, like wtf xd ppl are generally like this, no matter the game, as long as it is competetive
Great video. I've never heard of this guy, but as someone who played this game for about 10 years and is 4 months sober now (yay), it doesn't surprise me that League did this to a person. It just seems like a miserable game for EVERYBODY, whether you are a good asset to the community or not. Let me give you an example. Yesterday I tuned into Nemesis's stream (he's like in the top 100 players on EUW server) and watched him basically single-handedly carry his team to victory. It seemed hopeless, but he kept trying, kept advising his teammates on what to do, what items to buy, without being rude and flaming anybody. He didn't give up. After nearly 40 minutes of play and a hard earned victory screen, he wasn't even able to crack a smile. First words that left his mouth were something in the line of: "Man this was so tiring", or "Man this game gives me a headache". So, for the most rewarding feeling a player can have in League, he barely felt anything. Now I know Nemesis has been vocal about not enjoying Legue anymore and only streaming it for money, but damn it hurt to see a man having so little passion for something he's so good at, especially when he is also very respectful to others in the process. I took Nemesis as an example, but honestly every popular League streamer seems miserable playing this game. Conceptually, it is a fun game, but it just doesn't seem to be worth everything you have to endure. Thanks for taking time to read this comment. If you have any thoughts, feel free to reply. :)
Kira. I just discovered your channel today and have watched several of your videos and decided to subscribe because of your amazing content and story telling abilities and this video is my favorite so far. This video showcases what's wrong with so many people nowadays, it's the fact the so many people place the blame on the 'bad' events in their life on some outside factor when the reality is that 80% or more of the events that happen in our lives happen because of a decision that we made in the past. I know this is true because this is how I used to be. I used to place the blame on 'bad luck' or anything else I could think of, but as soon as I realized that almost every single thing that happened to me in life was my fault my life took an amazing turn to good. I'm the happiest I've ever been and have the most fulfilling life in every way imaginable and I didn't do anything different, all I did was begin to take responsibility. I hope this video helps other to realize the YOU'RE in control of your life, take ownership of it and watch it blossom.
Man as a cancer patient it's tough hearing this asshole yell at people to get cancer, I can't even imagine having to edit a video full of it. You've got balls of steel, Kira. Wishing you the best of health.
i mean yea.. hes talking about wanting to punch people in the face while weighing like 50 kilos or something. (at least it seems like hes pretty small and thin)
ACTUALLY, just remembered something lol. Knew a guy back in the day, we went to the same highschool and in like, 2012 (kinda early league) he hit challenger as a support... he left college to play league competitively in a team but he was SO TOXIC that he just got kicked out of the team, dude coulda been big nowadays.
I searched for how to quit league videos since I believe I am an addict and found this. It left me horrified, the pure hatred, the twisted mind which is a result of the addiction just made me feel so utterly sad for this man even though he would deserve a good beating. I think I never want to fall into a pit of misery and despair this man has fallen into. Now I know it's individual for every person but this just made my emotions go on a roller coaster. So sad what can become of a human being under the influence of an addiction.
Eyy, good on you for searching for help! It seems you found some in this video and I hope you're able to pull back on this game or just quit entirely. Wishing you good (mental) health!
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Thanks a lot! I switched to mostly playing non-competitive games that don't get me addicted but mostly don't make me angry. Currently doing well abstaining from LoL and playing Diablo 4 instead and my life and most importantly relationship got 150% better. It's literally noticable how much less irritable I am now and I started bicycling actively and started enjoying my evenings sitting outside on our terrace doing literally nothing but relaxing. 🤗
The story of League of Legends is just very sad. I genuinely think it's an amazing game and when I played in coordinated teams of friends I knew in real life, it was hands down one of the best gaming experiences of my life. But the levels of toxicity render the game unplayable. I would quit and come back to it several times because I just missed the genuinely fun gameplay. Every time I returned, hoping that maybe something has changed, I realised it just got worse and worse. I used to occasionally feel the need to report a player for bad behaviour, once every few games. Last time I tried it maybe 2 years ago and I felt I had to report several players every single game. It's gotten to a point where riot games doesn't even do anything about it because if they banned every toxic player, they'd lose 98% of the playerbase. Last time I played, I got flamed by someone, saying they hope I get cancer and die. I genuinely asked what do they think they achieve with this. I am one of the few players who actually want to play the game to the end instead of giving up the moment something goes slightly wrong. I kept trying to encourage my team to win. I tried explaining that toxicity isn't going to help us win the game. The player's response was simple: "Because if players like you get flamed enough, they will quit the game" and I guess he was right. Every player with a tinge of positivity left in them has quit due to the constant toxicity.
You may want to try again even though toxicity is far from solved Riot finally took some steps against it. Meaning Feedback from Reports is very frequent (showing something happens with them), people that use "zero tolerance words" will automatically be muted and punished, it is now possible to report people during the game and AFK detection is generally pretty good. There is finally a "party only chat" ideal for organized play with friends. And they are working actively on Systems for "Softinting" and subtile trolling. While far from perfect, for me it is finally halfway fun again.
Honestly I feel this, the best way to play solo que is to turn off chat. 99% of the time people aren’t typing anything useful, trust me it makes the game fun again
@@thelyxin I actually did try the game again and I see Riot added the best feature they have ever implemented, which is to set chat to party only! I've been playing with that settings and my games have actually been very enjoyable!
I had a Jhin in a game on my smurf, which was 5-0 at that time. The Jhin had 520 wins, 550 losses, so he had a negative WR overall. He had 250+ games and a KDA on Jhin of around 5/6/8. I was playing LB and ended 22/6/28 but I couldn't carry his inting, non-cooperative 2/18/4 ass. I linked my main afterwards, to tell him I laughed at him all game long and said that I was sorry for his pity, sad and seemingly boring live. He sent me a short vid of him standing in front of the camera screaming about how he would beat my ass and I saw he was a Real life Fiddlesticks. It made me laugh at him even harder.
the worst part is: he isn't the only one in the world who genuinely behaves like this. who believes their own lies and sucks themselves into despair trying to blame it all on others. it happens every day, across many games, across many players who waste their lives trying to make other lives as miserable as possible just for the sake of wanting to be right all the time. even in less toxic games, there are STILL some people who will even deliberately try to drive you off of a game permanently through as much mental abuse as possible. if suicide prevention services and similar had legal authority, and could arrest people for endangering people's lives via their mental health, millions would be arrested every single day, I reckon.
@@GarkKahn you want to experience the complete opposite? try Deep Rock Galactic, that game has next to no toxics, and there is a 99.9% chance that whenever you join a game, the people in it will be friendly.
1:22 ... the starcraft reference. single player games. the idra early GG vs MMA ... a truly knowledgeable reference. i've always liked your channel but now I'm subbed. respect!
At first this game was very fun so I didn't notice the amount of time it was taking. My grades were falling, I was in a terrible mood all the time and personal relationships started getting affected. When some of my college mates started dropping out and getting dumped by their partners, I realized that I was addicted and that the cost was just too high. The stories I kept hearing were the stories I had heard of people who got consumed by WoW.
There is a kind of "birds of a feather" thing going on with this, one's personality is shown in what type of character they like to play (Tho' it's usually not this extreme). There was a survey on WoW in relation with players' personality and their class and race choices years ago, the results showed the most friendly and laid-back players were the ones playing the Tauren race, which is a big, goofy, cow-like creature and the least friendly players were playing Undead, more specifically Undead Rogues..
@My Next Trick I played and mained renekton, sion, nocturne, trundle, etc. I really loved the game and wasn't toxic, I'd grief teemo mains and Brazilians(many of whom were the toxic players in game to begin with)
As someone who had to quit Splatoon because I recognized how toxic I could be when I lost, it breaks my heart to see this. Your life is worth so much more than a game. You don't need to be good at a game to be worth something, or to have a meaning in life. Your life is so much more precious and valuable than that. You're a living, breathing human being--composed of countless tiny cells that all work in unison. You have a heart, a spirit, and a soul. You have a family and a heritage and a place where you're from. You're a real person, not some artificial identity crafted on the internet via an ultimately pointless video game. A simple game is _never, ever_ worth the self-inflicted shame that repeatedly tearing down others and yourself continually brings. You're just making yourself and those around you miserable. All the hurt you wish on others--all that terrible, horrible pain--is not nearly as great as the loneliness, self-loathing, and misery in your own heart. Video games are supposed to be fun and enjoyable, not vectors for a cycle of toxicity. If you're not enjoying a video game, then what good is it anymore? I hope and pray that Shaco someday realizes that he doesn't need LoL and seeks the professional help he so desperately _does_ need. There's no shame in that. It's not too late. It's never too late.
I think this video also highlights the addictive madness that many multiplayer games have become. People with terrible hard drug addictions don’t always get withdrawal symptoms as bad as the reactions these games cause
I'm sure alot of devious developers, especially when alot of money is involved, will aim to play on the same reward receptors. Addiction really is an epidemic, I wonder if there are different ways it can be treated.
@Just Chill I get where you are coming from but you are wrong. Not everyone is strong, and just like drug producers take advantage of the vulnerable, theres companies pumping in tons of money into developing the most addictive product they can make. They release these products not caring about the harm they do to weak people who easilly fall into their traps. Yeah, at the end of the day people are responsible for their choices, but these are severely influenced by personal history, personality, mental health and many other factors. But I totally get you, I probably thought the same thing when I was your age. You give people too much credit man, most folks have just enough brain cells to not shit themselves when they wake up every morning.
I've never understood toxic gamers. I never will. Even if someone explains it to me, I am so far removed from their mindset that it just doesn't compute. Like that one Russian guy once said: "It's only game, why you have to be mad?" And those are words to live by. Or at least to game by. Zero respect for people who vent by telling others to die.
They're mad because they want to enjoy the game but can't, be it due to bad teammates, the game just not being fun, etc etc etc And venting that frustration is people's way to deal with it But I guess basic logic is too hard for you
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 that says alot about you if you find that vitriolic mind state to be *basic logic* telling someone to die over a game is childish at best.. games are ment to be fun if they game makes you rage get a new one lol
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 And clearly hyperbole is too hard for you to grasp. The comment you replied to is a condemnation of toxicity in games. Hyperbolic statements meant to show how ridiculous I think toxicity is.
The worst part of Arcane is it lures new people into LoL. And oh man its like chucking blood into water where there are starving sharks. Edit: Its funny how some people prove how toxic the culture is, even if its not yelling and screaming. Be wary of the micro-transactions in LoL okay? And dont feel pressured to buy a skin if you dont want to or cannot afford it. Learn to avoid the pitfalls of a new multiplayer game
anti leauge people are getting to be as annoying as the hogwarts legecy people though... in many cases they are often the same people. Same polotical ideology. Im tired of people calling me the scum of the earth and such if I say i play league at all. So the antis are just as bad..
anti lol people are argueabely worse. you hate people for no other reason then the clout you get for "dunking on leauge players" and alot of your retoric is just as bad if not worse than the subject of this videos. I've been called sub human. parasite. incel so on and so forth. Had my job threatened irl in the past when a coworker in the staff house saw me playing league and in their termenly online brainwashing figured I must be a toxic person and toxic employee. and so went to the manger and stated that. A manger who also thinks leauge = horrible person. So I got targeted for every little mistake no matter how small. Anti leauge people are not better by proxy you are just as much scumbags as the people you harass.
@@JDReC100 I mean no doubt. But Im more on the side of The game is predatory in how it is designed And the community is pretty toxic, mainly because they choose to be so and and! This is pretty important Once again the design of the game incentivises it. However I am not gonna call someone the scum of the earth for liking the game
I am someone who has played video games basically since i was 10 years old and now i am 26, who has had a long standing with anger management issues in games (used to play call of duty and still play league of legends, so that should know what kind of child i was), where i could literally get so angry that i would spout insanity and hate speech to my opponents, or allies if they were "in the way", or when i broke my hand in anger by punching a concrete pillar in rage. And even with all of this happening in my early teenage years, it baffles me that people can still hold that kind of anger in these types of games. There are so many "tools" to make sure that other peoples toxicity can not get to you, like in league of legends you can full mute people (and have been able to for many years) in call of duty you can also mute people. Of course you can get angry at a certain persons playstyle in cod, or how someone behaves in league or whatever, and i still get annoyed nowadays when we have someone who dies 3 times on lane and then griefs other lanes or goes afk, etc. but for it to affect you so much that you wish literal death upon another person or their loved ones, just because they did not perform to your standard (which in most cases the person flaming is not even doing well himself/herself) is insane. If you like playing the games, but hate the way people act in some games, then mute everyone and everything. There is no reason to increase your chances of a heart attack over a sweaty little 15 year old child screaming at you from the other side of the globe. Deafen/mute/hide chat or whatever other options there is out there, enjoy your favorite games, and don't give yourself a mental illness over a video game. This is spoken from someone who used to be like Shaclone back in my "hayday" of trash talking on the internet. Don't let the opinions and trash talking of others affect your gameplay or your mental health. Take care of yourself, don't let children ruin your gaming experience or ruin your favorite video game. Take care, and have a good one.
As someone who has dated multiple people who have played league, I always asked them “why do you play a game you hate so much?” Because I could see the toxicity spewing from the player base, but could not understand the addiction factor. It is wild to feel like you’re being cheated on with a game. I’m not talking about playing a couple of hours a day, I’m talking waiting through 5-8 hours of game play so I could have 30 minutes of their undivided attention.
they can only get value from those games, everytime they got pissed but still keep playing is the mindset that the next match would be better, i used to trapped in that mindset, but then i realized even next match its better, so what? its just a video game, if it doesn't make you happy in general, let it go, change to a new game or do some real life activity or something. sadly most people cant even understand that.
the worst part is that there's so much content out there that makes fun of girls and show how cool someone is for choosing a video game over their significant other.
Interesting video. I used to love playing Age of Empires and I loved multiplayer when I was a teen. Then I tried again about 2 years ago as an adult - of course, my skills had gotten worse but I thought I could catch up again to what I used to do. But the sheer toxicity of online games really overwhelmed me! It was not what it used to be 20 years ago. Peaple then would play for fun, would play to help and grow others. Now, not a kind word is said in any context. Seriously disappointing!! I hope it changes - but I'm sure it wont.
This hits too close to home man. I am 30 years old, a dad, a husband, and I am also addicted to league of legends and been playing since 2010. I have stopped playing as much since my son but still play as much as my wife will let me. I still blame my team and other a lot of my mistakes and gameplay and can see it under the right circumstance but my mental doesn't let me accept that I am not as good as the person who beat and accept that is okay. but videos like this really help because I don't want to be that guy. I want to be someone that can accept my faults and work to improve them. I want to be someone who is doing things in life that make my family and I happy and yes when I play league with my friends I do have fun but when I grind rank alone I am basically torturing myself. Thank you for this video, it was really an eye opener and I cringed at myself for seeing myself in his actions.
@@roguis3451 I do that too but I like playing the same champ and love the competitiveness of ranked. But again. It’s a toxic relationship with league so you still right.
I started lol since 2014 and tried to quit it many times. Now i am like 1 year clean and even though i can't say for sure the reason why, but i guess that i don't see lol as a bad experience but as a game that is fun and it gave me one the best times of my life. Maybe if you change your view on Lol and just see it as too good to be held you may not being dependent on this game. I wish you the best and for your family!
@@khier-eddinehennaoui9783 thank you! Ya I think I have an addictive personality in genera. With weed I smoked it a lot before my son and I wisdom say I was addicted and did it excessively to the point it badly influenced my life. So I do think it’s a me issue not a league issue.
This guy was my favourite streamer back when I started playing League so many years ago! I picked up Shaco and found this guy's stream and really liked his different playstyle. Back then he barely spoke. Over time his attitude really went downhill until I couldn't bare to watch him anymore..
I never would have guessed you were ever a LoL player, with the way you carry yourself in your videos here and in your other channel. That part really hit me hard, as I was on the onset of an addiction myself. I did not want to be that person that I became because of it. I had to change for my mental and physical health. But it wasn't just for me, it was for others around me whom I care for deeply. Thanks for putting yourself out there and showing the human side of these stories. I genuinely hope this man finds a better way, for his sake, and for those around him.
@@MajorJefferson correct. I'm not suggesting other people haven't heard of him. Kira covers a LOT of topics I'm mostly uninformed about. And inevitably his presentation gets me fully engaged.
@@dougray30 oh I wasn't trying to be condescending or something just informing you amd tried to give a little perspective on how well known this guy was/is, back then almost every league player knew the name. Not necessarily the videos but at least the name. :)
@@MajorJefferson no worries I didn't think you were, I just wanted to make sure it was clear that I wasn't suggesting my lack of knowledge was something I thought other people "should" have 🤣
I think you could help a lot of people with a video dedicated to addiction in the context of video games. You've lived it yourself, you've seen what it does, learnt what to look out for, and most importantly, you've found your way out. Your experience could be very valuable! Though, I understand that it would somewhat stand out given the current focus of your channel, and maybe hurt your numbers. But, eh, maybe on another channel, or in collaboration with another one?
I've been playing league for almost 10 years, i just remember the days when i couldn't wait for school to end just so i could play games and test out new champions, nowadays I don't emjoy the game and the direction it's going but I still play it because I'm also addicted, I don't flame anyone, in fact I turned off chat about 3 years ago but I still coudn't enjoy the game even when i was winning. This video showed me the potential danger awaiting me if I don't stop playing this game and I quickly unistalled it afterwards. Wish me luck guys I hope i can quit it for good this time
if you need any game recommendations, I can provide some for pretty much any genre (except for grid-based tactics games, I don't play those much) trust me, there's much better (and much less toxic and addictive) games than League, and I might be able to point you in the right direction if you have a specific genre in mind.
@@pillowmint4622 people who mostly play league really has no interest on other games. When they quit, they just drop gaming at all or just find another competitive online game.
there is no such thing as being addicted to something you don't like, if you really don't like it, uninstall the game and stop searching for content about it, simple
This hit hard. At one point, I was turning down an invite to join CLG's backup roster waaaay back in the day (i chose love like a moron). And then hit a low point in my personal life that overshadowed my gaming life. Poisoning my gameplay in WoW, LoL, and many other games. I took a long break from most of those games. I now play them again. But, I'm much more casual and make more efforts not to allow negativity to permeate my gameplay. I even casually stream a bit now. So, to see this man NOT step back and look at himself and answer to his own choices. Is like looking at an alternate universe for me. I appreciate the time and effort you put into this video. It was a fascinating thing to watch and reflect on.
Worst kind of abuse is self abuse because they can never escape. Heart felt empathy for this lad. teen me was there, but I grew. I hope he can transform his life step one would be go 100% off-line. Reflect, grow, get a job, a gf/bf, irl friends, work on your flaws embrace your strengths then pick up the mouse but in moderation, be humble, be grateful, be giving.
Peope who say "quit videogames quit anime quite sociel meida" whilst still being on soceil media such as yourself are pure hypocritcal D bags to me. Stay in your lane. Nobody asked you
He's chasing the dragon same as a heroin addict, except he's addicted to LOL and the money it once brought him. It's a well known human condition and treatable well if he wants it but 1st he has to find that within himself to get help.
@@Jabarri74 right - speaking as a former heroin addict, you have to genuinely want to get better before you can get better. That's where the willpower comes from as far as I can tell. I don't think the guy even has the capacity to realize he has a problem in the first place. Addiction is treatable... narcissism? Not so sure about that. Some solid life advice in the original comment there - shame this Shaclone guy seems to think he's too good for good stuff like humility and personal responsibility.
Shaclone and Tyler1 were both toxic and were banned by Riot. But while one of them learned his lesson and became a well respected streamer, the other didn't and hit rock bottom.
But tyler1 wasnt banned just for being toxic toh. I agree he changed for the better but he wasnt banned just for the flaming and toxic behaviour. Do you rember the callouts made to riot for the state of the game?
Many players had this turn around. Tyler back in the day was the pinnacle of a toxic player, god knows how many dozens accounts he got banned. Same thing with RatIRL, he used to be as toxic as Shaclone is, wishing cancer on people every game. Multiple players who have been on the verge of ID bans at one point made it into actual League pro play where fans love them. All these players recognized that they are the problem and they can't go on like this, and today, they are very successful and respected streamers, creators, pro players. Shaclone is.. well... just a clown. He will never learn.
Kira I hear you. I have addiction problems myself and I have also moved on. I've had to cut people out because I was getting better while they were still using and were toxic. I feel the same guilt you do.
@@xeldinn86 you OK fam? Need to talk? One thing you have to realize is that those temptations are always going to be there and it's hard to deal with them because typically we're addicts because we're self medicating; whether it's trauma, some sort of neurodivergence, or both. I can't tell you what will help you, but I can tell you what helped me and that was getting treating for both the addiction and the underlining causes of it. It's not easy, but you can find support. Never give up sib.
in one hour, this video has more than quadrupled the views of Shaclone's newest video has in 10 days. at this point, Shaclone himself isn't even producing the most popular Shaclone content
I was never high ranked but playing League got me through a very rough patch in my life. What you said about League giving your life value, I can really relate to that. It’s obviously not healthy and I was able to move on. But if I didn’t find League to distract me and put all my time into instead of giving in to my dark thoughts, I wouldn’t be here right now. League really is a double edged sword lol
I think I know what you mean. Made it through some really rough times in my own life with the help of drugs... which of course only make the rough times rougher if you're not careful. Glad you were able to move past it yourself. Addiction is sinister in a way people can't fully realize till they see it up close.
@@WK-47 I really hope you were able to move past it as well. Yeah, addiction is no joke. It’s true how it can save you one second and then destroy you the next.
i know many people who are like this. zero selfaware, and incapable to see their behaviour, narsisim and the pure inability to try. its heart breaking to see somebody full of potential and just waste it away
To me its so ironic, that people like shaclone tell other players that their brain is rotten, but if you show his clips to a person outside of the league bubble, one can clearly tell, without a doubt that his mental health isn't just bad, its entirely gone
What is fascinating is that LoL shows the worst sides of humanity on the internet, and Valorant has the polar opposite experience for me. I recently got back in and often get random people in my team who are uncannily supportive. Also isn't it funny that these people think of themselves as important enough to be worth so much effort for Riot.
@@Avendesora No it isnt voice comms. Im literally not sure what it is but voice comms isnt at least THE reason. Day one when I heard someones voice and realized it is unmuted by default I immediately flipped that switch to turn it off. Im from the Mw2, Halo 3, etc. "My dad owns microsoft and I banged your mom now go back in the closet and end it" era of games. It is not more difficult to be mean via voice. So not sure why people are generally more positive or at least less toxic in Valorant cause even via text after a round loss I frequently see NT (Nice try) or hyping up whoever is attempting to clutch and popping off, etc.
@@Avendesora ALSO I was trying to find people to party up with in league so I joined a discord to use voice comms cause maybe it would be fun or help. Nope. It is the same level of toxicity as text.
I love how hes so insecure in his body movements. The hand on the mouth while talking, eyes can not stay still for longer than a second. The constant shifting and inability to keep still. Its like his own body doesnt even agree with his actions.
Homie inspired me to Shaco jungle back in the earlier seasons of LoL, and unfortunately he was also the cause of my quitting the game. His toxic reputation made Shaco Jungle players look like an auto-throw (albeit some players had no idea what they were doing) to some teammates, and others just immediately would dodge the queue if you locked Shaco jg. Sadge.
You know the denial is deep when you think Riot Games and RU-vid are the same exact people who hate you specifically. The idea that he isn't important never crosses his mind. A hero in his own mind.
i feel like once youre past being able to tell how insanely unhinged it is to tell someone to kill themselves because of how they play a videogame, youre lost. To me this is like telling someone to kill themselves because they have the wrong favorite skittles flavor. Its like a complete detachment from what is actually important and what isn't. its insane tbh, i wish these people could step back from themselves and just see how insane they seem to everyone else.
no, the vast majority of ppl are stupid, braindead consumers without producing more value (I'm including every aspect you can think of, not just financily) than they consume/deserve to consume. More and more want privileges and rights, but almost no one wants the responsibility or to put in the actual work or having actual skills. So, yes wishing death on some % of the population - ironically, is not a bad thing. Shaclone is just doing it on a pretty surface level though. Some ppl deserve to die and everything is connected. One example: most ppl if I give them suddenly a ball and command them to dribble through 2 cons, they won't have the coordination and reaction for it - yet, the very same (most) people are allowed to drive (legally) 1, 2, 3 tons machines where coordination + reaction is everything - which turns them into potential death machines driven by not enough skilfull operators. Which is why the major % of auto crashes is human mistakes. They shouldn't be allowed to even drive in the first place, yet they're allowed. The same goes for numerous other things. Won't write, it would be too long. Society is stagnant and there are limited ways it can progress but to simplify it even more I will brake it down to 50-50: Hard or an easy way. Hard way is another World War to clean the population and humanity to learn some lessons. Easy way is global thinking and the majority of humanity evolves to finally start to work together, putting aside petty differences, working better + more together on a global scale plus down to close 100% of every single individual IQ going higher, actively seeking progress + developing skills on every level. imo - 1st way is more possible, 2nd one is close to sci-fi currently and for the near future.
Antis will harass leauge players in the same way though and you will say nothing about that. Despite the fact that there is cross over between people who harass LoL streamers and the hogwarts legecy harassers. The difference is one of those things aligns with YOUR world view and the other does not.
@@6kembe4orba see this is kind of what I mean, I don't think you see how unhinged and insane you sound. I'm obviously not going to take any of that seriously, I just hope that you're either 14 and going through your edgy phase or that you can find help with the emotional issues you are obviously going through. Good luck
@@housemouseshorts wtf or who the fuck is Antis? wtf are you talking about? did you mean to reply to a different comment or do i just not have the always-online emotional issues needed to get what youre trying to say? try taking a few deep breaths
@@TheNosnawS I'm perfectly fine + prolly way smarter + skillful than you. I can make a list of my accomplishments + my skills if you are so curious + I can prove them. But then you would have to do the same. Let's see who is more skillful, smarter and has accomplished more in life. Otherwise it's just talking shit on the internet. The most probable variant is you're just delusional or not having the brain capacity to understand/see it on my level.
The trick is bully them back in the most immature way possible. Imply they kiss with their eyes open or that their dog doesn’t actually love them. It’s surprisingly effective lmao
I'm so glad smart pings exist now so you can manage to play this way. Back when I was playing, you pretty much had to be involved with chat somewhat or you would be a liability to your team
