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The Toxic Side of Fandoms - FanTea 

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Welcome to FanTea, the show where we discuss all the hot fandom drama!
This week we are discussing the difference between reality and fantasy. Where is the line? Can you enjoy something toxic in fiction and still hate it in non-fictional environments? Are we policing fantasy a bit too much now a days? Are we far too easily offended?
Grab a cup of tea! Share your opinions! Lets sip on it together!

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Комментарии : 43   
@daxyoung6487
@daxyoung6487 5 лет назад
You should do a FanTea about people being shamed for cosplaying characters who's race/body type isn't canon/fanon.
@themeltdown342
@themeltdown342 5 лет назад
people constantly shame me for liking the makara's and the ampora's as a whole. and i find ignoring them works best. i know the makara's as a whole are murderer clowns and i know that at least eridan and dualscar are bad people but it's in fantasy. i would never want a bunch of murderer clowns or fish running around in real life. i would stay far away from them, but i like them as characters in the fantasy world that was made for them. and i will never stop liking them in their fantasy world just cause someone tells me they are bad characters or because they are horrible people or because they just dont like them. i like these characters for my own reasons. and i was drinking mint tea for this~ cold and dark mesh well together i think~
@Smug_Wolf
@Smug_Wolf 5 лет назад
JESUS CHRIST ME TOO. People hate me for shipping John x Eridan also like holy fuck dude calm down they arent real people asfjfsgdkdjafj
@Cannedtun4
@Cannedtun4 5 лет назад
That's the tea sis
@jeremyjuilsana1287
@jeremyjuilsana1287 5 лет назад
IM SO SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE COME BACK!THESE FANTEA EPISODES WILL BE GREAT AND YOUR DOING AMAZINGLY! IM SO PROUD IF YOU AND KEEP IT UP!!
@pokemonlover55434
@pokemonlover55434 5 лет назад
I know how that feels in people policing fandoms, bout 3 or 4 years ago i was getting that hate because of the couples id have shipped or what kind of AU i wrote/write. But thankfully after the change that happened with AUs and the fandoms becoming more opened and accepting its become much easier to make friends and be accepted by readers. (I also think it helped when i got smarter in how i write lol) Thankfully i can now a days, go on and update a story / AU without being shamed or told such and such is wrong and that i should ship such and such together instead. But at the same time its not always avoidable as there are those people who refuse to read what ever fandoms AUs with an open mind. But thankfully that sort of thinking is dying at a modest pace and everyone is slowly becoming more accepting as like myself many of us like to mix or read mixed fandom AUs...i know im happy more people are more accepting and such to where i dont write things only to delete it because i feel its wrong to others....now a day i usually just think "yeah you dont like this? Then you may leave this an find another story to your liking if you please"...almost said that to many people on Wattpad lately lol
@ndav970
@ndav970 5 лет назад
This is very well thought out, KW. I'm going to have to share this with my daughter tomorrow. She is a shipper and gets told some of these things a lot. I hope she gets as much out of this as I have. Thanks for sharing!
@phe.mp3
@phe.mp3 5 лет назад
i’m so glad to see you posting
@TheInkyForestSystem
@TheInkyForestSystem 5 лет назад
wow I was on amino while watching this and you made me think
@taylothlorien
@taylothlorien 5 лет назад
I came back to this channel just to see what you’re up to. I was a fan back in the Homestuck cosplay video days (hell I even had you on my podcast at the time to talk about it!) and here I am, writing about Homestuck for my masters, remembering you and thinking, hey, I should check up on him. Let me just give you the biggest round of applause I can. Bravo for how you’ve grown in life and how you’ve respected yourself enough to push forth and conquer. I’ll be subbing again. Much love, KW!
@Keebles8
@Keebles8 5 лет назад
I started watching this and immediately burnt my tongue on the tea
@mightyfinefilmmaker
@mightyfinefilmmaker 5 лет назад
the editing in this video is so good!
@imalmosteverywhere7439
@imalmosteverywhere7439 5 лет назад
Random Question: *What Fandom Do You Think Is The Most Mature?*
@HexManiacQuinn
@HexManiacQuinn 5 лет назад
I've had great times in the Vampire Chronicles fandom. Of course, just about every character in those books has done something horrible, or many things.
@HexManiacQuinn
@HexManiacQuinn 5 лет назад
Oh, only caveat though is that the writer doesn't like fan fiction spread around, or erotic art. But plenty of other art and discussion is accepted by the fans themselves. And I may or may not have an unfinished crossover fan fiction I wrote in college.
@taytrash5938
@taytrash5938 5 лет назад
Jenna Marbles has to have the most supportive, mature fan base anywhere, but remember, every fandom has it's crazy side.
@probablynotdad6553
@probablynotdad6553 5 лет назад
The ones that don't refer to themselves as fandoms typically. No hivemind, group think, us vs them, or mob mentality in those communities...usually.
@imgone2766
@imgone2766 5 лет назад
It will have to be Mystic Messenger since I have never seen anything bad happening in that fandom
@HexManiacQuinn
@HexManiacQuinn 5 лет назад
Ooh, boy. Where to start. Get ready for a book here. Well, recently I've joined a Harry Potter FB group that doesn't police people to a ridiculous extent as I experienced with another group, but I've been seeing a rather disproportionate amount of Snape hate. I'm personally not a huge Snape fan, but I recognize him as a morally grey character as opposed to someone irredeemably evil. Similarly, I'm a Draco fan. I enjoy him in Drarry, some Dramione every now and then, and the dirty fangirl in myself ships him with myself filling out a young Harry's role (I can more easily identify with Harry than Hermione). Thus, trying to explain what's fascinating about the ships is difficult. Someone compared that to shipping a Nazi with a Jew (what with the allegory around Death Eaters) and I could only answer, "Well that would make for an interesting passion-fueled story, wouldn't it?" As I can see someone mentioning Homestuck below, I can't say I was ever actually shamed for the idea, but I can just FEEL a kind of judgment surrounding blackrom ships. Like, it can be lazily used to have two characters who hate each other hook up. And as a writer, I can see that, yeah. But I can't help it! I still love to black-ship Eridan and Vriska, and I can see myself with a rage-induced pitch-crush on both Eridan and Zebruh (introduced in the HiveSwap FriendSim). Yes, they can be VERY bad. No, I would not like them at all. I hate them very much. But that doesn't mean I can't feel attraction and make some kind of AU rivalry where we have heated discussions (which would most likely boil down to yelling at each other), throw a few punches, and perhaps finish it with a kiss... in. my. head. I have been shamed for being a Homestuck in general, however! By some random person on Twitter. Because it apparently automatically makes us pedophiles. Ignoring the fact that not every fan on earth gets turned on by shipping, there are two huge problems here: 1) attraction to someone who is a minor but has already hit puberty isn't pedophilia; that would be ephebophilia. Confusing the two is a pretty drastic thing which I always discourage, especially since a lot of countries may have a lower age of consent law than the one any given person could be living in. 2) They are FICTIONAL characters. It matters not that most characters are 13-16 years old. In my head, they could be my age or I could be their age or we're both immortals or whatever. For instance, take Danny Phantom. That character is 14. I had a crush on him when I was about 12. I'm currently 22. If I looked at suggestive fan art today? Well, said random person would call me a pedo again, despite Danny being OLDER than me when a small crush happened and him being FICTIONAL. Like... just goddamn. There is so much grey area in situations like this. Does it matter that a hot anime dude or lady isn't 18 in their canon media? They can be in their thirties in fan art. Or they can be drawn along college years, or later teens. Or even if it would be in a situation where it would still be an illegal situation in the real world, we don't need to shame people because they're still fictional! Also, confession time? I used to not be down with gay ships too. But I didn't have "religious" reasons though. I was honestly just young and never heard of a gay before in my life and just found the idea of Spider-Man being with Captain America to be really confusing and I didn't understand how fan fiction worked, really. And uh, surprise surprise. I came out as bi. I didn't have any tea because it was just SPILLED! (I do however have an excellent bag of loose leaves for some Caramel Oolong.)
@CloudsAndDays
@CloudsAndDays 5 лет назад
I’ve just pulled back from fandoms as a whole. It’s probably why I haven’t watched you in forever. I’m a lurker now and focus on my own characters. It’s quiet here.
@khoiphan7744
@khoiphan7744 5 лет назад
This is late but I love this! The begining was THE BEST!!! Love you great video!
@NinjaPunk321
@NinjaPunk321 5 лет назад
Im so happy this is happening
@PheonixStarsx
@PheonixStarsx 5 лет назад
Fandoms are my safe place and I want it to stay that way
@Emilyandlydiaa
@Emilyandlydiaa 4 года назад
Beautiful profile picture!
@Noeggets
@Noeggets 5 лет назад
I wanna see your doger I haven't seen your dog in a while, this very interesting thing to talk about *sips hot water* (I can't make tea)
@peaceloveandcomicdubs172
@peaceloveandcomicdubs172 5 лет назад
Someone actually is constantly picking on my partner and I for shipping a rare ship in a video game. Like, people ship the twins in the game and get no hate. But as soon as we say "Hey we ship Yooran" the hate just pours into our inboxes, and it's honestly getting very annoying for the both of us.
@horrorshortstories7371
@horrorshortstories7371 5 лет назад
In some fandoms, I find myself shipping some form of selfcest and get shammed on it, is that bad?
@HexManiacQuinn
@HexManiacQuinn 5 лет назад
I mean, that's certainly a niche kink. Like masturbation, but not, not to mention how people could reasonably try to write and make it happen without just the "fan fiction magic" excuse. But I still wouldn't shame you for it though. You do you.
@almanotolrado7744
@almanotolrado7744 5 лет назад
Artful, will you be doing any more homestuck “day in the life of”s?
@weirdandrandomcosplay6038
@weirdandrandomcosplay6038 5 лет назад
Once I was just cause I liked psycho characters (junko, kukichi, jason dean, sangwoo etc.) But then I was like "fuck it, they can't judge me"
@mousey3784
@mousey3784 5 лет назад
I HAVE BEEN WOKE
@fujoshiinpink8097
@fujoshiinpink8097 5 лет назад
Loved this 10 out of 10
@numberonebastard
@numberonebastard 5 лет назад
Oh boy here we go
@cosplayklutz5015
@cosplayklutz5015 5 лет назад
Man I’m back here again it’s been at least a year holy sh*t
@tillmancat
@tillmancat 5 лет назад
Canon vs fanon
@aubriblobbles3742
@aubriblobbles3742 5 лет назад
No hate, because you're amazing but you remind me of Neville from iCarly rn It's great
@hannahlaperche2018
@hannahlaperche2018 5 лет назад
Ok queen I see you 👀
@bee9240
@bee9240 5 лет назад
👌👌
@TiedyeHomie
@TiedyeHomie 5 лет назад
Jeez I bet this took so long to edit
@mattdunn4977
@mattdunn4977 5 лет назад
Is this the real life, or is this just fannnteaaa?
@aquariusgonemad3607
@aquariusgonemad3607 3 года назад
My friends make fun of me for liking vriska :(
@strawberryharuka
@strawberryharuka Год назад
Vriska is really cool though!!!
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