The Tragedy of Gen 3 Dragonite.

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Pokemon Competitive Singles has been kind to Dragonite over the years. One of the most iconic Pokemon of all time and the original "Pseudo Legendary", Dragonite seems to receive both direct and indirect buffs as each new generation releases.
However, there was a time when Dragonite really struggled. Back in Gen 3 OU, Salamence was released who completely outclassed Dragonite. Salamence had identical typing with higher speed and a superior ability.
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@jimothycool 27 дней назад

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@AlviNoor-jv9gx 26 дней назад

Fake gameplay 💀💀

@blahtest 7 дней назад

@@AlviNoor-jv9gx no?

@MeatKisser 27 дней назад

Hey man, just because Salamence has a better jawline does NOT give you the right to make fun of dragonite

@lunarionion 27 дней назад

Goofy fat dragon.

@kingambitreal 27 дней назад

Salamewnce (Hidden Ability: Mogsie)

@BandedMetagrossMeteorMash 27 дней назад

Salamewnce mogging betanite

@ANGST.ARGENTINA 27 дней назад

Salamence is such a skibidi toilet, he destroyed Dragonite's mewing streak!

@naberal 27 дней назад

Viabilitymaxxing

@b1uezje 27 дней назад

Dragonite Dhursday. Let's freaking go, gamers.

@Naxafa 27 дней назад

Doomsday

@tsawy6 27 дней назад

Its a dragonite day of the week folks

@RohanJoshi910 27 дней назад

Dragonite ThursDAY 😱

@substitutedoll5224 25 дней назад

damers*

@KingStr0ng 24 дня назад

*Det's dreaking do, damers.

@kaboissonneault 27 дней назад

It's so weird how Extremespeed skipped a gen

@niXourbis 27 дней назад

It's because only the one gift Dratini in Johto could learn extreme speed, it didn't come back until HG/SS

@raulvalledor8935 26 дней назад

@@niXourbisDidn't know that, thanks for explaining

@williamdrum9899 26 дней назад

@@niXourbis Still weird that they didn't give Dratini a way to learn it in Gen 3 though

@breloommaster12 25 дней назад

@@williamdrum9899 many people don't realize that the transition from GSC to Ruby/Sapphire was the _first_ Dexit; all those legacy GSC moves lost until the Virtual Console Crystal version brought back some of them (but not the event moves still)

@shoogles_ 27 дней назад

I'm glad Showdown is back up. Now I can go back to rubbing my chin and musing "of course, good point" on RU-vid videos while never actually playing the damn game myself

@Serperior1212 26 дней назад

Real

@incendiaryvicis 26 дней назад

Hey knowledge is knowledge largely same like I’ll play occasionally with friends but I don’t play competetive I still have fun learning how yugioh which I also like to watch some videos on sometimes I don’t play that in any capacity but hey knowledge is knowledge so I feel ya haha

@justadummy8076 23 дня назад

So real, I don’t play competitive or even casual online Pokémon, but you bet your sweet bippity I still watch WolfeyVGC

@peacebone8112 26 дней назад

Dragonite gets inner focus and still loses focus when people hit it after a focus punch. This is insane.

@GIR177 24 дня назад

There's an IQ skill in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon called No-Charger which allows you to use charge moves without delay. Inner Focus should've had a bonus effect like that.

@vera-ej6kj 27 дней назад

Don’t let this video distract you from the fact that Jimothy Cool lost to a Squirtle team.

@sheban777 27 дней назад

When I need to see this

@Lobster222 27 дней назад

@@sheban777 on Jimothy gaming

@vladfi1 27 дней назад

Wasn't it actually Squirtle + Pikachu?

@jaketerpening3284 26 дней назад

@@sheban777 It was in his monkey monday video. Squirtle did nothing. He was running a team without Tyranitar and got swept by endure reversal Heracross.

@3godzilla3 26 дней назад

Jimothy Not So Cool

@sekaihunter9378 27 дней назад

Dragonite's suffering in Gen 3 was just a set up for the greatest training arc in gen 4, followed by the greatest tournament arc in gen 5 and the best redemption arc in Gen 9.

@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 26 дней назад

Turns out Dragonite is the main character.

@GoldStorm07 27 дней назад

If Dragonite had just held onto Shed Skin from its preevolutions instead of getting Inner Focus, it would have been very good at shrugging off paralysis and burns while doing its thing as a bulky attacker. Fly might have become a staple of its sets earlier by giving more opportunities to stall out status effects.

@Wgar1 27 дней назад

Or if the recent buffs to inner focus were there from the beginning

@GoldGuard 27 дней назад

It's crazy seeing how many Pokemon in ADV OU can get away with running no STAB.

@iantaakalla8180 27 дней назад

That is what I like about ADV meta. There are powerful moves and STAB combos, but there is no expectation of Pokémon minmaxing because it just is not there yet, so Pokemon teams, with individual Pokemon and other stuff, have to be creative.

@feelsokayman5656 26 дней назад

The lower power level my dude, no Skill Combat or Skillrage (120p/100ac) moves who only pros can click it

@omo_cat1362 27 дней назад

dragonite is lovely, he deserves a hug

@boa386 26 дней назад

Double Magcargo is something the world would never be ready for

@99sonder 27 дней назад

Imagine if for Focus punch, what would stop it from working is that you get flinched when you take damage. So Inner Focus mons with Focus Punch would get free access to a 150 BP minus priority move

@leonardobarbosatelles2779 27 дней назад

I don’t know if anyone here watched/read Baki, but my mental image for Focus Punch being used is Kaoru Hanayama’s strongest punch

@e-duh3529 27 дней назад

And no Yujiro to tank it

@chilitofu3512 27 дней назад

he made the biggest reversal during gen 9

@FatherAbroham 27 дней назад

He may have lost the battle, but he's won the war.

@lilythebluespheresfan2897 27 дней назад

I Know you despise post-multiscale dragonite, but honestly the boi deserves it, he struggled in your favorite generation 🥺

@aldwych285 27 дней назад

Dragonite: You Salamence: The guy she tells you not to worry about

@donttrustnoone3921 27 дней назад

And now in more recent metas Dragonite has outgrown Salamence Theres a moral here somehwere folks

@an8790 27 дней назад

@@donttrustnoone3921Every dragon has its night.

@an8790 27 дней назад

Dragonite Watch him take flight A stellar might, an ace in the fight Although in gen 3, he's simply alright

@snakexpert552 27 дней назад

@@donttrustnoone3921 nice guys/Cute Bois finish last

@feelsokayman5656 26 дней назад

In my case im Slakoth and the other guy is Mewtwo

@LikeZoinks774 26 дней назад

Too many times I have tried to put 2 Macargo on my teams 😔😔

@reicem3840 26 дней назад

Mom, can we get a Salamance? No Son, we have a dragonite at home

@harb1ng3r82 27 дней назад

I personally think that it’s cool that Dnite isn’t very good in Gen 3 and is only used in edge cases to compress roles or run interesting coverage with a wide movepool, because it’s really obnoxious to deal with in so many other generations. Even when it’s not great, it’s usually still fairly linear and takes advantage of uninteractive tools or powerful generational gimmicks. ADV is one of very few generations where it’s both fun to use and fun to play against.

@aldrichunfaithful3589 27 дней назад

i've actually used dragonite on a superman stall build and it's really good there, it fills a similar role to articuno but it has some actual resistances which i personally prefer. the set i use is hp fly, rest, sleep talk and heal bell, and it can switch into a pretty wide variety of mons like fighting types, water types (as long as you scout for ice beam first), fire types, celebi, flygon and rachi if it doesn't have ice punch. it can sit on anything by rest talking, and it heals its own sleep if it calls heal bell which makes it even better. it functions similarly to wish mence but it has a lot more longevity, and you're trading wish for heal bell so you'd either need lots of recovery or another mon with wish.

@snakexpert552 27 дней назад

I always miss my Gen 5 rain team Dragonite with Draco Meteor, Thunder, Hurricane, and Surf and a surprise Choice Scarf. It was such a beast that Dragonite overtook Salamence as my favorite pokemon. Respect my GOAT

@CalebSmith-gg1dt 27 дней назад

This provided really good insight into Dragonite. Thank you, Jim!

@derealiiqwq2152 27 дней назад

Its so cool what you're doing for the community with gen 3 revival. One of the best pokemon youtubers for sure :)

@user-fu5uc7cj1m 26 дней назад

I love that dragonite had the last laugh

@tomasuzateguiorchard5190 19 дней назад

Love the Pilot wings briefing song used in your videos!

@peet-janissen5838 27 дней назад

It would make a lot of sense if innerfocus pokemon had extra benifits to using focus punch and focus blast

@doopness785 25 дней назад

I remember using Dragonite in gen3 OU with Substitute Focus Punch Flamethrower Roar it worked quite well for me.

@timothyvandyke9511 26 дней назад

Imagine it, Wish Salamence alongside Heal Bell Dragonite

@freecomet 7 дней назад

"there's nothing preventing you from running Dragonite and Salamence." Lance moment

@teeonezee 3 часа назад

imagine if Inner Focus Ability actually negated the flinch from Focus Punch charge

@alberthrenzocuaylamarca4195 27 дней назад

Can you do a Focus Punch 👊 Video? I think that only in gen 3 is so prominent just like Gen 1 Hyper beam

@Max-dm2iw 27 дней назад

great video as always jim. also I was wondering what your thoughts were on the leaked past paradox form of marcargo, "macarstop"?

@jaketerpening3284 26 дней назад

Personally, I prefer the future paradox form, Macargone

@calook1334 26 дней назад

I am a firm Dragonite believer. It has better defensive stats, boltbeam coverage, and access to Heal Bell. I believe the proper way to use it is to use it with a defensive special attacking Heal Bell set on slower teams. I have a Superman team that I run with Dragonite and it’s a menace. Thunder Wave cripples opponents, Heal Bell keeps the rest of your team healthy (especially Flygon), and BoltBeam coverage makes sure the enemy can’t get too comfortable. Overall, I think Dragonite has enough of a niche to separate itself from Salamence in that regard. It’s frankly insane.

@mozeez102 26 дней назад

On a typing theme continuation, it would be cool to see a video covering altaria

@Fredysaurus 27 дней назад

Next game I would like it if we would get another psuedo like meta or ttar that's not dragon type, just for some variety tbh

@alexman159 26 дней назад

Thank god the world will never have to face jimmy’s unstoppable 6 macargo team

@tysondennis1016 11 дней назад

Thunder Wave Starmie? My Starmie OHKOs Mences with Ice Beam!

@charmandenator5686 27 дней назад

The dragonite team is very interesting looking. Do you have a pokepaste link for it? I'm bad at EV spreads so I'm curious what was put.

@Elfman126 27 дней назад

Hi Jimothy Cool, I have wanted to say this for a while now but your favourite channel when it comes to Pokémon and, keep up the good work. Btw, love your made up Pokémon like Iron Mugulus and Iron Fridge, Sorry if I got the names wrong.

@Lazerbalde 26 дней назад

Wow! New tournament ❤

@armorbearer9702 27 дней назад

I have to say that I never thought about combining Heal Bell with Rest before.

@jammyman7085 27 дней назад

Surprised there was no mention of the loss of extreme speed in the genrational shift. If Dragonite still had that it would have a geninue niech that Mence couldn't replicate and give it a shot of being a real part of OU.

@agiruda8380 26 дней назад

The Dinosaur Council is meeting to discuss Dragonite’s viability within their ecosystem

@marvalice3455 26 дней назад

Dragonites stunning innovation of having not just one, but multiple scales would later allow him to surpass his rival, salamance.

@virtualcolt 26 дней назад

I have a lot of nostalgia for Dragonite. I used to think it was the most powerful none legendary dragon in the game because of fighting the 3 Dragonites Lance uses in Soul Silver. Until I went to postgame and met lead Salamence.... those where the good times when I used to only train my starter.

@TectonicImprov 26 дней назад

It's honestly really cool that Dragonite can still hang with the big boys over twenty years later with a few really good tools every other gen or so. It's like surprising the oldest son with a new car on their birthday.

@Fosta_ 27 дней назад

Whoa there jim, what about the multi hit moves to break sub and then the users focus?

@xtinaxendrix 26 дней назад

agility + a large amount of physical defense investment lets you live any common +1 rock slide (except tar's) and inner focus lets you ignore flinch, if you pass dnite a cm you can set up in aero's face and ohko it with bolt or beam (or raw ohko it with blizzard or thunder); agility lets you get away with investing almost nothing in speed, it's a fun set

@IrfanFakhrianto 27 дней назад

i wish theres a metagame where its current gen (or natdex) but specifically without the newest gen mons, just to see how much of power creep is the new mons vs everything else

@krislee3155 26 дней назад

Still have not to this day have built a Dragonite, late alone even used one for a playthrough.

@braveknave24 27 дней назад

fantastic stuff lately, jim. I might even forgive you for the whole google stuff, perhaps after dragon types throughout the generations I will.

@ThatGuyThai 26 дней назад

Imagine if Inner Focus allowed unbroken Focus Punches.

@Dr.Deluxe 26 дней назад

Heal Bell Dragonite and Refresh Salamence were both from purifying them as Shadow Pokemon in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness if I recall. I'm kinda curious how big an impact XD's purification moves were on the meta overall cause I remember alot of random Pokemon getting moves like Refresh and Baton Pass.

@noysam3570 26 дней назад

If inner focus also neglected flinch from focus punch, dragonite would probably be OU ranked

@coralanturn 26 дней назад

i wish dragonite got extremespeed in adv, it would be such a cool option to give it it's own identity

@boop53 26 дней назад

i think its access to heal bell is cool but idk when you’d use it - because if you’re using physical offence you’d probably have an sd pass celebi, right? and that can fit heal bell

@kokirikid817 27 дней назад

Dragonite is far from bad in gen 3. More people should give him a try 😊 I'd like to hear about my favorite UUBL mon in ADV OU, Alakazam.

@dylanf3108 26 дней назад

It’s just a worse Salamence honestly. It’s not bad it’s just there’s a very narrow instance you would ever want to use it over Mence.

@cjer6040 27 дней назад

TIL Zapdos fell to UU so long sweet prince

@BluThundr 27 дней назад

Jimothy what did you do while Showdown was down, I went insane.

@AI-DreigonGPT 27 дней назад

That why that Dragonite is my favorite pseudo legendary

@BeforeThePast 26 дней назад

You actually can break focus punch behind a sub. Rock blast! A very niche interaction, but it's possible.

@se44th 27 дней назад

can’t wait for babymariofan to tear it in up the jimvitational

@That_Guy_From 27 дней назад

Is the comedy of Altaria next?

@evancherpeski1876 26 дней назад

Every Dragon has its Nite.

@et34t34fdf 27 дней назад

It's not a story gamefreak will tell you.

@nitro5247 24 дня назад

Now I need to think of my best anti-Dragonite strategies for low ladder

@wishcraft8036 26 дней назад

Super unrelated to the video, but thinking about substitute made me wonder why Ninjask is allowed to run it? If it's not considered as a stat boost, I think it probably should be, since it gets passed by baton pass. Perhaps this could be an alternative to banning Ninjask outright

@ToastandFrys 27 дней назад

Thank the lord you can’t run double magcargo. Altho I’ve heard some talk of players using slugma as a second, slightly worse magcargo

@williamdrum9899 26 дней назад

DK64 music is much appreciated

@EarselBill-bi4xr 26 дней назад

It’s kinda fun using Dragonite as a simple special attacker, especially if you can pass a Calm Mind to it. Flamethrower or Fire Blast Thunderbolt or Thunder Ice Beam or Blizzard HP Grass It can hit everything pretty hard and is immune to Intimidate…..Dragonite can be a pretty decent Pokémon in Gen 3

@williamdrum9899 26 дней назад

Inner Focus didn't make you immune to intimidate in gen 3. That was only added later after Game Freak realized how broken Intimidate is

@AndrewRKenny 26 дней назад

You know what they say though, every Drag has its Onite.

@egbertmilton4003 27 дней назад

Well, doesn’t matter in the end, seeing how badly it exceeded anything Salamence could do on its own

@danielcardenas8266 26 дней назад

Gen 3 Dragonite is almost as tragic as Rattrock's losing streak against Fake Gameplay. We must root for them to turn the tables sooner rather than later.

@ShadowLady1 27 дней назад

I just watched last dragonite video 20 minutes ago

@joe_the_zombie 27 дней назад

Love the thumb

@cadesummers5866 26 дней назад

Can you do a vid about registeel in gen 3v

@Ultimewtum 26 дней назад

i wish i had the stones to play Showdown. I cant ever bring myself to do it because i fear being at the bottom of the ladder

@doma3554 26 дней назад

Kind of off-topic, but, if Pokemon Showdown implemented all the in-game entry animations, and true battle animations, for at least Gen 3 and Gen 2, it would be incredible and practically an unbeatable experience, for me, in terms of battling others.

@beechteeth 24 дня назад

this is insane

@Naxafa 27 дней назад

Still far from the gen3ou elite crew but I'll keep improving

@ryanrowston8977 26 дней назад

If you're actually asking what I'd like to hear about next, it is whether 2 turn moves (fly, dig etc.) have ever seen use. I imagine that they're pretty bad and can be exploited by the opponent, but has there ever been a use for them?

@Imitationist 26 дней назад

See divecats in comments

@oluseyialege 27 дней назад

Could get another video about teams for beginners

@charliebartlett5768 27 дней назад

Inner Focus really should have made it so Focus Punch would activaye even if you got hit whilst charging.

@joao20able 27 дней назад

this so much (it would've been nuts but so cool)

@wheatleythebrick2276 27 дней назад

that sounds insane for gen 3 but actually not rly out there for gen 9 imo

@mrtrollnator123 27 дней назад

Ok that's too broken ngl

@DJFracus 27 дней назад

@@mrtrollnator123 Is it? Only affects like 3 mons (Dragonite/Alakazam/Sneasel), and Focus Punch would still have the significant drawback of being negative priority, so it sort of has anti-synergy with Dragon Dance/high speed stats. I'm not sure it would even make Dragonite better than Salamence still although it would certainly make it closer.

@mrtrollnator123 27 дней назад

@@DJFracus nowadays not really but back in gen 3? Instantly bannable especially for dragonite 💀 the other 2 not so much

@KFLawless1412 27 дней назад

My 5th grade ass thought Inner Focus would allow Dragonite to just already be focused. Gamefreak please allow Dragonite to lock in

@OneMoreDesu 26 дней назад

BKC for Jimvitational wild card entry

@trains3377 27 дней назад

SoulWind and Leech in the same tournament??? we are about to see levels of Heat Previously Thought to be obtainable only by premiere fire type in Gen 3 OU, Macargo

@tehandroidmaster 26 дней назад

Dragonite gets done so fucking dirty, even to this day. Its hidden ability is relatively difficult to come by legitimately. BW, Multiscale is only available via Dream World (discontinued). X/Y/OR/AS, you needed to have a friend safari with Dratini so it's functionally impossible to obtain offline (without PKHeX that is). I say all of this because Inner Focus Dragonites are the Dragonites that get absolutely no fucking love whatsoever. He looks like a Dragon Tales character, he's a touch slow for my liking, but he's a goddamn TANK. I think Dragonite is the only Pokémon who has identical stats across every generation.

@chromaticchrome3746 27 дней назад

Dragonite is a physical attacker that can serve as a cleric in a pinch... So you're saying he's a Dragonborn Paladin?

@ThatGuyThai 26 дней назад

Ice Beam go BRRRR

@_jy1754 27 дней назад

Dragonite was the original pseudo legendary, and it has had a fantastic competitive career over the years.

@politicalmetrics 27 дней назад

Pretty amusing that neither of the gen 1 Pokémon that are still in OU in gen 9 were OU in gen. (Dragonite’s solidly UU in rby, and clefable has bounced between UU and NU)

@baddragonite 27 дней назад

It is funny that the Gamecube games just casually handed out Heal Bell to so many Pokemon lol

@jaydee5312 27 дней назад

Dragonite was the original pseudo legendary

@Culk-kb4fn 27 дней назад

Yes, and?

@vanillaplanifolia2525 27 дней назад

and it has had a fantastic competitive career over the years

@Meridian453 27 дней назад

Ever since generation 5 when dragonite received the ability multi scale

@Aurora_Veill 27 дней назад

Ever since generation 5, when dragonite recieved the ability multiscale, it absolutely soared it popularity and viability

@leonardobarbosatelles2779 27 дней назад

The only old one that has not been updated in some way with a new form

@AttitudeIndicator 20 дней назад

The hatred Timothy has for this pokemon cannot be understated.

@dilliondantin 27 дней назад

Yup yup

@mrundy9351 27 дней назад

Pokemon GO fun fact: Dragonite is good in all leagues and outclassed Salamence in every league. Although in great league it's outclassed by Dragonair.