@@ANB433 that wasn't sarcastic that was a genuine comment. I'm glad he cleared it up about how he became an adult or I'd of been stumped watching it lol.
Pitt was perfect with his "paranoia". Everyone in the movie great! The movie made me feel like I was right there in 1882 watching Jesse's demise unfold! Truly a masterpiece in my opinion.
it was because he did not want to be a coward. shooting someone from behind back then was very looked down upon. at least when you had a beef with them. jesse killed nearly all his victims from behind, but the reason why most dont see him as a coward was because he was calculated. it takes balls and brains to survive the bloodbath of a civil war and live life on the run as an outlaw and still manage to kill 17 people. there are always grey areas to things like this, but i think alot of the reason bob was considered a coward was because he was close to jesse, a fan even, so it almost seemed like he was betraying jesse. therefore the coward thing seemed even more likely.
@@gravejames7221 if you idolize the guy and he turns out not to be the man you thought he would be and cause of that begin to snitch and later shoot him in the back in his own house with his family makes you in my book a straight up coward.
Just finished reading Jesse James: The Last Rebel of the Civil War by T.J Stiles, and I honestly couldn’t recommend it enough. If you are even slightly interested in Jesse James, The U.S Civil War, Reconstruction etc, then you should totally read it. Brilliant biography of a man shrouded in myth. The Civil War shaped and created Jesse. From the moment he was dragged through the family land by militiamen as a fifteen year old and he witnessed his step-father being hanged; Jesse’s bitterness and hatred of the Union was cemented. There is no Jesse James without the political element.
Absolutely.And I will look out for that book.Thanks.We do ACW Reenactments (& others)There is such a lot of interest in it & so many people discuss the James Boys & the Youngers & feel they got a raw deal.
Thabk you im going to read it. I agree to look at Jesse without taking into account the brutal nature of war and how he was dragged into it by murdering and torturing his family is not an accurate assesment of his life and some accountability for those atrocities and how they woykd impact anyone in his shoes has to be addressed
You are so right.But most people don't see it that way & call him a murderer,psycho & many other things.And are you aware about the hell the Youngers also went thru?It was a time out of hell.As all wars r.But those in power r always too dumb to see it.Will humans ever reach maturity?
My family on my Dad's side were neighbors of the James family in Missouri. My family moved to Campbellsville, Ky about the same time that they moved off. My great, great grandmother was around 6'2" and could shoot a crow out of the sky with a pistol at great range according to my Dad who remembers her doing this when he was a kid. At around 80 years old she beat the shit out of a goat with her cane for butting my Dad and his brother around the yard. Poor bastard never came out of the barn till he died. The bank hold up in Kentucky happened in Columbia, KY. That robbery happened a month after my family moved to Campbellsville. It's long been speculated that "Granny" may have helped them at times, not confirmed. My Dad's brother swears she did, him being passed away can't debate it with him. Granny killed a man at 13 years of age with a shotgun while they were trying rape/rob her mother. Life was hard back then and made the people hard as well. The Pinkerton agency were some of the shittiest convicts with badges ever created. The people that hired them tried getting meaner people than the outlaws.
That is a crazy story. Easy to forget how wild it was back then. My 2nd great grandfather was stationed in Texas alongside the original rangers. His son wrote down some of his stories. Crazy how it wasn’t even too long ago. Thanks for sharing
I'm NOT! My folks would leave their enemies hanging by their thumbs in the barn and then go to Church. Jesse would just go to Baptist Church Sunday morning.
Honestly, I love the documentary BUT I can't stand the background music. WHY background music? WHAT possible function does it serve except to distract, annoy, and grate on the nerves? AND, for people who suffer form tinnitus or hearing loss it makes it so hard to hear the words.
Turns out I am a decendent of Jessie James via Emmitt Vestal Sr aka Texas Slim.... sounds like James got a bad rap then just kept on going for revenge... we can't demonize these men. Im reading Emmits Book... it takes you back in time... these men did what they needed to do to survive.
I enjoyed the movie with Pitt. I really liked the part where the narrator was saying Ford imagined visiting the victims families who’d been killed by James. I honestly think he should have.
I live where his stomping grounds were. I once had a look at a picture of Jesse on a mule. The picture was taken in front of a late friends house. To leave Clay county was only about ten miles . The picture of Jesse was from the late 1890s How true was the picture. My friends grand father was a minister. My late friends ( his grandfathers) house is still there.
@@jiveassturkey8849 I know, it’s just not true. There’s a photograph taken of Jesse after he was shot dead by Robert Ford, he was shot in the back of the head in 1882
Psalms 55:23 But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.
Jesse or his family never had to leave Clay County or Kearney even after his “atrocities”. Later after marrying Zerelda he moved. I live about a mile from his Kearney home.
I never heard that he married before Zelda. I’ll have to check that out. I live in Kearney-his home town-my house not being a mile from his family farm. So everything is Jesse James around here. I met a man that actually met Frank James a couple times as a child. That blew my mind -thinking it was not actually that long ago in history.
Andrew are you a descendent of his son? Or sons? I think I read one moved to California. Idk. Many around here try to claim they are related but they aren’t. Sadly I think my ex husband is a distant relative of Bob Ford! Jesse’s killer. They aren’t proud of that.
One of the best I've seen. Thank you for your accuracy. Bob and Charlie are my second uncles. Hollywood never seems to get it right. Look up follow your past a lion TV of New York special that aired on the Travel Channel. For more on the James and Fords.
They must have had a huge family, or every one in Missouri is related. I've met hundreds of people who claim to be related to either Jesse James or members of his gang... who were mostly cousins of his.
Watch the movie ( alpha dog.) It's about the second most famous Jessie James Hollywood. I went to school with him in junior high. Messed up story but they only tell half if that in the movie... Thanks for the video... I never new this story.
He reputedly told Ford, after you shoot me in the back, I want Tyrone Power to portray me in a 20th Century Fox movie. Throw in Henry Fonda for good measure.
The Robin Hood question always makes me chuckle, he was as far from that as you can get. He robbed, stole and murdered his entire adult life, likely turned insane by the actions of the union soldiers when he was a young man. He systematically went through his entire friendship circle and shot them.
Poor Sandra! In Hollywood, "bad boys" are always supposed to be wonderful at heart, and changed by the love of a good woman... I think she thought that, and didn't realize he was really a sleaze to the bone...
Jesse James is my great grandfather, I'm the outlaw chairman. I'm from braxton county West Virginia. My grandmother is Colombian. Jimmy Skidmore and his brothers Mark Skidmore, Timmy Skidmore, Richard Skidmore and they're sister Connie Skidmore are all from West Virginia and grand children of Jesse James.
I live in the town of the bank he was finally stopped at, we hold a “Jesse James day” every year where actors play the cops and actors play James gang and a shootout occurs. It’s honestly a amazing experience
I live in Clay County, Missouri, and only a few miles from Kearney, MO, Jesse's hometown. One of my distant cousins, Ballentine Munkirs, was friends with Frank and Jesse in the 1870s. Ballentine's family farm was only a half mile away from the James farm and Ballentine was a Bushwhacker during the Civil War. When Jesse and Frank robbed the Clay County Savings Bank in Liberty, MO (their first robbery), the sheriff arrested Ballentine. He thought Ballentine was a part of the gang. He wasn't; he was innocent. After the arrest Ballentine stayed clear of Frank and Jesse.
I'm from southwest Missouri. The border war region known as the "burnt district" per Ewings "general order #11". Frank James actually sold shoes in my home town in the 1880s-1890s, after the "James gang" was finished. Somewhere around 400 "Bushwackers" held control over most of the southern half of Missouri throughout the war, despite some 50,000 U.S. troops dedicated to run them out. Jesse James grew up during that. He had immunity from the law because the people here seen his bank and train robbing as a continuation of the war. Robbing and killing federals, northern business owners, pinkertons, and their hired guns only earned the loyalty of the local population. Mostly because it was something they took great pleasure in doing themselves when the opportunity arose.
But the lumbee gang ran by Henry Barry Lowry was more badass made up of Indians and some African Americans, they were more wanted than Jesse James gang and had a bigger bounty on their heads , they mostly stuck to the swamp lands to pick off their enemies and to escape , that's who u need to do your next video on.
I agree! I have heard a little about this gang, I believe, and it was very obscure and wild. I'd love to see that next! Thanks for the suggestion, it's a good one!
@@christineparis5607 oh yeah it's a great story and one that needs to be explored more and your welcome kinda getting tired of hearing about Jesse James and Billy the kid , don't get me wrong their story is cool and all but the lumbee gang I'm more interested in and they had a bigger bounty on their heads than the James gang and just want to know more about them .
*There's far more to the story* of the James Brothers, their family, and families of the era, and particularly in the area of Missouri, Kansas, Northern Arkansas, Western Kentucky, and Nebraska. It also was affecting all of the Industrial States and West to California. This story had the true individuals that were at the core of most all 8f the tragic history around the Civil War, and the post war ramp up of the aggressions against the Native Peoples. The initiator of these conflicts were 3 divisions of extreme wealth: 1) *The elite Owners of the Business and Industries that were point focused on the known wealth potentials in natural resources, Metals/Minerals, the Railroad Industry, and the expansion West.* 2) The *Southern extreme elite,* and their ownership of the enslaved free labor, this peaking at an average of 1200 - 1400, owners 9f Cotton, Tobacco, and Sugar Plantations, "the 1% elite Plantations of the South then being the wealthiest people in the world. 3) *Their elite counterparts, the International Bankers and Financiers of Britain whom desired the control and profits of the USA Banking, Stock Market, and Financing of Loans, in a fast paced growing nation. These were and remain the Family that financed all wars in/for the Western Hemisphere since the time of Napoleon and Wellington, the same that later were awarded the ownership of the "Federal Reserve Bank Corporation")* These efforts were obvious to those whom were in the path of their expansion: the Native Peoples; the landowners affected by forced sales and/or removal from their homes/land; the smaller businesses that got consumed by the Elite Industrialists and their Monopolies; those whom watched the growth of profits by the Plantation Owners, and those Americans whom were "Educated, Alert, Business Minded". ... and 8n the same manner as today, the News Medias we're largely privately owned and used for the agendas of the elite, to invite the naive Public towards preoccupied chaos, while they carried out their own aggressive acts for profits, for feeding the Ego Mind's Greed. The James Brothers, Dalton's, and others got caught up in these elite aggressions, and while many of the local folks understood the scenarios, the mass Public believed the drama stories of a more criminal outlaw produced story. Likely they were w/o choice but to become outlaws, once they began to retaliate, but the Public deserves to finally get the greater clarity on the era and subject. Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist Historian PS: *"History"* vs Based on Historical Events. There's no go-to Written History Book, that I'm aware of, to read the more accurate facts. Makes one wonder, Why? But with vast research and studies, this is the greater Facts I have discovered and observed through the Records.
At last an intelligent person makes comment! Thank you Beth. Just remember DNA is an inherited trait. My people were REB's. You can guess what part of the DNA I received While others in my line are liberal democrats I lean toward that big fat red headed blow hard up state New York Yankee Trump. Maybe he's a rebel? I don't know?
I live in the town Jesse James was shot in and it's still a tourist trap lol. It is interesting to view the home and the bullet hole where he was killed. The home is super tiny though. Maybe four rooms. Room size around 12ft X 12ft at most. Ford had to be close when he pulled the trigger.
@@greybeast8089 Jesse James never faked his death, I beilive Brushy bill was The kid, but he died at the age of 71. Not in his 90s, That guy in the 1950s wasn’t Jesse James, there are multiple pictures of his courpse
At the end of the day Jessi James and his gang were nothing but ruthless thieves and murderers. I never knew he shot unarmed men, namely bank clerks, before until l saw this. But, like most outlaws history tends to portray them as some kind of romantic heroes of the people through books and films, rather than the cruel, heartless people they really were
@@danielblackburn1241 nope. It was a legend created by the guy who opened the cave for tourists. The story doesnt even make sense, considering how far those chests would need to be hauled UNDER WATER to get to the so called "Loot Rock". They had to dynamite a LOT of rock just to open up that part of the cave.
Who knows what he was? History is written and rewritten constantly by people who were not there. Just like your video, you were not there, yet we are to believe you this far into the future? No, I’m more inclined to believe the exact opposite, simply because you said it.
@@Cyrus83842 there’s an abundance of sources and oral histories passed down that say he was not simply a villain in a black hat fighting good guys in white hats. History is written by the victor in the immediate aftermath of conflict and then years and years later is rewritten again by often just the loudest group. It’s sickening.
Tee Culture why ? For being born with a Baptist reverend for a father? For being confederate sympathizers? For not having a father figure growing up? For being tortured by union soldiers? I’d be a monster too
Any fan of Louis L'Amour Westerns knows he was a villain. L'Amour did extensive research, including his vast collection of contemporary diaries. James's nickname was "Dingus," which had a bad connotation, even among outlaws.
If I had a nickel for every fool on here claiming that they're related to Jesse James, I'd be rich. I guess technically, I'm related to Jesse too because if you go all the way back in history to the first humans we all descend from them. So actually I'm related to Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Queen of England, Obama, Bush...well hell I'm related to every human on the planet and so are you.
So just were so I'd you get your info from ? Let me guess the books that were written by people who want to sell books. Unless you were there. It's all speculation.!!
This is just awful, and the timeline is so out of sync it's making me dizzy. Here are just a few of the errors... Jesse and Zee's daughter was Mary Susan James, born June 16 1879, not Ethel Louise. Charlie and Bob ford were NOT guerrillas with Jesse, as they were 4 and -1 respectively when the war broke out,and it only lasted four years. Jesse's wife never wrote a book, and Bob Ford was killed in 1892, not 1894. Two thumbs down on this mini bio.
How are you related? I am a Cole thru my Grandmother. Her father was born in 1874. When Jesse was murdered by Bob Ford, my Great Grandpa Cole went w/ his father to pick Jesse’s body to prepare for burial. I still have Cole’s & some Golden’s in Missouri. Btw - Great Grandpa Cole was first cousins w/ Jesse, Frank & Sarah. The Younger brothers are also cousins of mine. I named my son Cole after my Grandmothers family.
@stagga lee He was a outlaw, that's how he made a living. Look at Freeway Ricky Ross and El Chapo, They were notorious drug lords who were millionaires. Respect to them to. Freeway Ricky Ross is now a entrepreneur who reformed his life whilst he was incarcerated.