Kurogiri said it best: whether you agree with him or not his methods are effective: whenever the Hero Killer struck, the crime rate for that city actually decreased.
blackdranzer1 yeah but probably only temporarily. Hero’s were in a state of emergency looking for stain and calling in backup to look for stain. All those extra hero’s and patrols would have discouraged normal crime until stain they went back to normal working order. Then I imagine they’d go back to normal
kamron spencer but by that logic, even the peace brought on by All Might was temporary. Temporary peace and drop in crime rate is still peace. That’s crimes that would have happened that didn’t.
Daren Colby it was temporary. It crumbled the second he stopped being able to do what he was doing. If you wanna create lasting peace you need to take actions and set up systems you and others can follow forever. Stains peace is especially not valid though because he’s killing innocent people also trying to maintain peace for like 4 weeks to a month of slightly more peace maximum.
kamron spencer do you think that some “state appointed thugs” are going to deter any petty criminals compared to the “Hero Killer” someone who’s actually killing the weak heroes for a greater cause, you’re forgetting a key detail of this world: All Might is the only “Hero” that villains and criminals are actually scared of the rest are just “fakes” as Stain says.
In a world where you are deemed a villain due to looks and the fact that most”hero’s” Couldn’t care less about the people they save, stains ideology is one I respect
@@rexerator yup and their quirk's also if don't have a quirk that can destroy entire city's your called a villin if you have one that can destroy entire city's your called a hero. Also if your parents are villins your aromatically a villin no buts at all. If you have a misunderstood quirk you are cast out of society if have no quirk your just a plaything for those with quirk's
Stain: YO OVERHAUL Overhaul: boi what the fuck Stain: YOU GOT NO HANDS HA FUCKING NOOB Overhaul: :’) Shigaraki: *comes in* HA FUCKING NOOB *the story of overhaul’s abuse*
@@kingofhearts3185 but didn't he say that he would never be satisfied until he saved a million lives? That's what Lemillion means. Isn't being a hero giving everything for one? I thought Mirio was supposed to represent Nighteye and Deku was supposed to represent All Might.
@@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776 not everything for one, but one for everyone. Mirio was the perfect person to inherit one for all, even more than Deku. He had the charisma and the priority to save people over any other desire. If Stain approved Todoroki even without the strong determination that Deku had, I'm sure he would approve Mirio as an authentic hero.
the problem with Stain's philosophy: it was about people having "imperfect" motivations. But the Universe does not care about your motivations. If the city is burning, and you are a hero, it doesn't matter whether you're in it for fortune and fame or faith or anything else-- all that matters is that YOU ARE THERE.
I wholeheartedly agree, but self-sacrifice is a more effective drive than desire for success, as simply wanting to be rich, popular and famous won't always compel you to sacrifice what's important to you to save what's important to others. I don't know if this is exactly what Stain was thinking, but in a society of heroes that won't help civilians when they are sure they'll lose their life or something else of equal value, innocent lives will be lost, while self-proclaimed heroes will keep living to cash in their next wage. This reasoning is often seen in people who have seen soneone dear to them die while the authorities hesitated because of bureaucracy or other inherently useless crap.
@scott overholt Yes but money have driven humans wayyy more to bad than good. Also Stain is correct the only way humans listen is if you take action and they can SEE it. Power, Action, And Fear are the most effective ways to get people to listen. Even people who try using different ways to get others to listen usually agree that power, action, and fear is the most effective.
@@200subchallengewnovideos9 But you realize that Stain isn't actually accomplishing anything, right? He can think that these heroes are fake and all and are doing it for the money, that's great and all, but they're still doing the job of saving people. So he's murdering people who would've prevented innocent people from getting murdered, and the fact that heroes are getting murdered, is just going to result in an influx of more heroes as they try and respond. We saw this after All Might retired. Also Scott is right, when talking about a paying job, profit motive is more than likely going to lead to higher quality performance in a job because you have more incentive to actually try at your job. So whether or not you agree with his flawed ideology, there's absolute no way you can justify what he's doing, it's one of the most counter productive stupid things I've seen.
@@treycotter1917 actually he did and even good guys acknowledged him. And just money is a terrible reason. So if something happens and the heroes can be paid enough most of them will stop helping people. The heroes that died that could've saved someone there's a high chance of that someone being saved by a different hero. Heroes even attack or disable other heroes by trapping them or getting eachother stuck so that one of them gets more fame. Also I never justified him killing people is ok. But Stain had already tried using his voice nobody listened so he's taking action and now people are actually listening. Taking ACTION is one of the most effective ways to be heard and listened too. Even heroes listened and agreed to Stain. Look at the BLM protests that a huge example of taking action to be heard. Sadly for Stain he didn't have many people around him or ppl who cared about him. If heroes do everything for money when a huge fight happens and they can't get paid since they are rebuilding or a economic decline more than half the heroes would quit. Which is exactly why money and fame is a bad reason to do things
@@treycotter1917 Also he did accomplish things. All he wanted was to be heard and listened to. And that's exactly what happened he completed his goal entirely
Knuckle Duster got introduced and came after Stains appearance, so I doubt Horikoshi would base Stains design around another, not yet released, mangas story or characters
Well the maker of vigilantes might have used stains design to work around on KD's design so he could tell this part of the story with a little more underlying volume. Which we can say KD's action that night created an impact on what Stain has become later on. "atleast in vigilantes universe"
Agreed. What are your thoughts on all might. My thoughts are hes the reason society as a whole went down the shitter. Oh yeah I forgot not all villains need to die only the ones that enjoy slaughtering innocents or causing mass genocide. Also Some are villains because of a mental illness. Not saying you need to agree but im just putting it out their.
Stain thought Ingenium was a false hero just because he inherited the family's mantle instead of being forced into the position, despite how well his service or intentions were. His philosophy is far from perfect.
Yung Toto Really.? It Seems Like That Wrote Him To Have Impact But Didnt Actually Establish Authentic Impact.. His Back Story Seemed Like An After Thought.. I Hate When Writers Do Stuff Like This..
アマンタラツAmuntaratsu i mean I guess but overall I still personally liked the character of stain and what he did in the story even tho what you say is for sure not wrong
The heroes stand and sit idly when someone is in trouble and thinks how far and how strong his opponent is but stain without no hesitation rushes to that enemy and assasinates em stain is the real guy to be called a hero others r just fake
I cannot wait for Stain to finally come back, I wonder what he will do when Tartaros is taken over by AFO. Will he temporaly join forces with him or go on his own?
yennox stain was only good because he came in quick served his purpose and then left. If he has to be long running the cracks in him that we’re hidden would become obvious and he wouldn’t be seen as well anymore
It's going to be very interesting to see if and how Stain's philosophy has changed since meeting Midoriya. I hope he comes back as a Hannibal Lecter type character who gives the heroes information, but also exposes their hypocrisy and makes them doubt themselves.
His ideals were right but I disagreed about the killings. It’s not right even if a fake hero is there. Prove it by being better then the fake heroes like Mumen rider 😂
One thing I love about MHA is that all heroes are professional, no matter why they became a hero, whether it's for money or fame, they all take their job seriously and are willing to sacrifice their live to save others. It's not like One Punch Man where the whole "fake hero" argument is so in your face, in MHA hero is a job, so of course people who are bad will probably be fired
@@kamronspencer4910 You kidding me, right? Stain's ideology is that the only people who're worthy of the tile of hero are those who are selfless, so literally anyone who wants to be hero for any other reasons, no matter what intentions behind them are fake, like Uraraka, Mineta, Mt. Lady, or Iida's brother. Uraraka wants to make money for her parents, Mineta wants to be popular, Mt. Lady wants to be famous (in the spin-off said it's because she grew up in a farm), abd Iida's brother do it cause it's a family business. Stain's ideology is flawed from the beginning, not everyone can be a hero like Rorschach who literally devoted everything into hero works that he's a homeless at day
tang roro yeah and that’s bullshit. People can have other motives and still do great things for the world and society. Hero’s save thousands of lives and catch criminals left and right. If they also are normal ass people and want money and attention that doesn’t invalidate what they do and who they are. Their heroes
@@ahkafkhan4512 while she's 100% in it for fame she still did some good without gaining anything from it (when she stopped mr.compress from getting bakugo)
God I love this backstory. I remember when I first saw stain in the anime his arc was kinda quick( in and out) and then that was it and was really dying for a backstory on where this guy came from. This vid is much appreciated :)
Nah Deathstroke is a mercenarry, he can be on the side of good or on the side of evil at the right price. Stendal is more of a Punisher before he became full fledged stain.
He is an ex Hero but on gruesome way ... Killing the villains is he's specialty ... Stain never become a villain.. he never kill someone who is innocent civilians. ...
Spades but most of them aren’t corrupt, and he’s also attacking heroes without knowing their intentions, like he could assume tensei was only a hero to keep his family rich and to build their brand but after we learn about his personality in Vig we can see it’s not like that at all. Stain is just an idiotic lunatic
Actually, I feel like with the right costume, they'd be really well liked. For one, they're extremely powerful. For another, their themes could be considered cool. If not, well they have underground hero work
We are probably going to see him after this War Arc. Villains are most likely to win, it's almost fully guaranteed. They'll probably break out everyone out from Tartarus soon after.
He would. My man Mumen Rider is ready to sacrifice himself to protect civilians at all costs even though he isn't the strongest or has no superpower. But that doesn't stop him from facing demon level monsters. I RESPECT Mumen Rider.
What i like about stain: he was the first person to be announced to have a blood quirk He was the most fearfull villain He is epik And also.. hes probibly the realest one out there :/
do you wanna know how I know that stain's philosophy really resonated with people? We are still quoting him in 2021. He didn't even show up for a long time in the anime or in the manga. And yet, his words are still being quoted by us and by the characters in BNHA. While I don't think killing every hero that isn't All Might is right, I do think that Stain's philosophy, even though extreme, was very necessary for hero society to finally confront its issues. Hero Society needs to be broken before it restarts.
Only reason I read vigilantes was for his backstory. Hes best villain of the series for me in my opinion and top 5 of my favorite villains of all time I love this guy and hope to see him again [SPOILER] down below so mad they postponed stains meeting with all might
It's a good analysis, especially where he learns that having half of his identity hidden while the other is widely notorious was holding him back, where he forfeit his regular identity to solely become his beliefs. That right there is downright inspirational, if we all did that, we'd be living our dreams. Stain is living his Stain is cool as hell, he comes off as a 4th wall type of personality, his outlook steps outside of the show itself, he likely would even mock his own creator if he knew. And from what I could tell In this very diverse show, stain is one of kind.
I love this character, it gives that background theme of doing good for the sake of good versus for profit, it only gives the show more depth, it’s like how In one piece there’s the theme with the world nobles who abuse their power with complete disregard for the subjects under them. Themes that still resonate greatly in real life
The things I love that staying in his ark is that everybody knew the way he did it was wrong but after it ended everyone kind of agree that he was right even the heroes
I can't help but look at the Stendhal to Stain change as a similarity to Red Hood to Joker change. As they were already dangerous/villainous before, but after the events that changed them, they took on an even more dangerous/villainous persona.
If there is someone interested, there is a fan fic series called "Blank Canvas", where Stain convinces Midoriya that he can be a hero without a quirk and so he goes on. Chizome becomes sort of a mentor figure to him, as much as he can being a villain and Izuku being a hero. He goes as far as saying Izuku is more of a true hero than All Might after seeing how far he goes. Honestly, the fic is funny, heartwarming, sad, awesome and needs more recognition. Take a look.
I reckon it'd be dope if during the war izuku get seruously injured and it's stain who saves him. The heroes then lose and izuku is helpless to do anything due to his injuries and is forced to watch on. Stain would then nurture him back to health before training him ruthlessly. That prolly won't happen but I'd be fine with any stain action tbh
Man this was awesome I love it you gave very vivid details with out all the theatrics and buffer Info I love the vid I can’t wait to hear or watch more from you........😊👍🏾
Stain is an extension of All Might. Bundled and wrapped in violence since, he never achieved a high status so that people can take him seriously. His view on the world, heroes and people in all of their essence, is absolutely the best view, imo - it's utopic and that's where his contradiction starts - or at least, matches my ideals and points of view. Stain is the All Might of brutal acts and methods hut still, following the same trail as All Might, in its core. He can be viewed as All Might's mirror but from a darker lens.
One thing I love about MHA is that all heroes are professional, no matter why they became a hero, whether it's for money or fame, they all take their job seriously and are willing to sacrifice their live to save others, which makes Stain's ideology actually debatable and questionable, there's no clear cut. It's not like One Punch Man where the whole "fake hero" argument is so in your face. In MHA hero is a job, so of course people who are bad will probably be fired, if Stain is in One Punch Man I would actually root for him to kill all the tax-wasting jerks.
Stain is a great villain but the one thing that aggravates me about him is the fact that his sword is chipped to all hell and back I just pissed me off only because I'm a big sword nerd
Stain is one of the villains you can agree with People like mt. Lady Mineta and endeavor want to be hero’s because for selfish reasons and the word hero is given to anyone with a pulse.
Honestly though its kinda disturbing how many people miss that Stain is straight up psycho and villain :p Like whatever point he has about hero society is kinda moot because his main focus is All Might hero worship
What's the old Nietzsche quote? _"Whoever fights _*_monsters_*_ should see to it that in the process he does not become a _*_monster._*_ And if you gaze long enough into an _*_abyss_*_ , the _*_abyss_*_ will gaze back into you.”_ A fair interpretation of Stain, incapable of seeing the shades of grey in any situation, he can only see Black or White. This is the tragedy of a remarkable character going off the deep end into insanity. How much of his original beliefs exist anymore? Would he even judge his previous inspiration (& guide to the epitome of what a hero should be) *All Might* as being too lenient? His *_ravings_* may have been carefully edited into a famous online video (in universe), but I really doubt that many of his fans would enjoy (or survive) the experience of meeting the real him... (Incidentally, if you don't see the influence of *_Frank Miller's_* *Batman* in the creation of *Stain* , you're not looking hard enough.)
if you e ever played pokémon mystery dungeon you know one thing. the main team (yourself) never does the jobs for the reward but to help. there’s always a “bad” team that does it for greed. you’re both helping and are both compensated. focusing on the compensation vs helping the people is the difference between villains and heroes
Stain got his entire mo from his fight with Knuckleduster. Stain essentially offers heroes the same deal: "If you cross the line I have set for you, I am going to hurt you."
Am I the only one that sees binding ropes unwind when stain runs after the noumu that grabs izuku? Also isn't Aisawa looking to talk to stain towards the newer chapter's of the comic? I swear his cop friend commented that it would have to wait for now.
This guy sounds like Eddie Brock, Punisher and a slew of other anti heroes I could mention. It's a unique commentary on the anti-hero genre as a whole.
like this is making me pull my hair out from frustration like i don't agree with the way stain tried proving his point but i don't exactly disagree, his point is valid, but we all know that no one would have acknowledged it, bec he had no power and no support, stain is probably one of the few villains i actually like and respect. im sorry this didn't make much sense, my English is bad too so i apologise you read this whole comment when it doesn't really make sense 😅
you dont need to hit people with it for it to work. if say he got ahold of a heros blood who is faster and stronger then him he now wins that fight. a blood sample or stain is all he needs.
When I first saw stain, it was in one justice and I thought he seemed lame. Then I saw the anime and he became my favorite character, good story telling working it’s magic
woaaaah, i have read the boku no hero og manga and boku no hero vigilante but i did not realize that the masked dude and stain is the same man woaaaaaah
Second time watching this video but I read a book by a old French author with the same name Stendhal and only watching this noticed the similarities and resemblances of his Novel the Red and the Black. You should check out brought a lot more perspective to stain for me
Hey uh can you explain tensei iida. Because he became paralysed from the waist time but people are saying that stain can only paralyse for 8 mins max and higher for people with blood type b like his own. So how is this possible? And what is tenseis blood type? Please explain him.
The thing that has always confused me is why stain targeted ingenium in the first place what was his crime that made it worth paralyzing him for the rest of his life. I know it was probably a small thing or maybe it was something big but having that clarification I think would help us narrow down what stain thought of as a crime
Brandon Maher The Iida family have a family tradition to become the next Ingenium. So when Tensei went down, he wanted Iida to become the next ingenium. Instead of being the next Ingenium to make your wealthy family proud, be your own hero with an other identity, and do it to save people. Or end up like Tensei. That’s what I think of why Stain did what he did
As far as I understood it Stain targeted Ingenium because of the "Fake hero" belief he has. Ingenium's family make money off their work of being heroes whilst saving people and in Stain's mind that makes you a fake hero. Yes that should not matter as both those that get paid and those just saving people because its right are heroes however to Stain only one of those two instances is a proper hero and as thus he attacked and paralyzed him.
Wat I want to know is when endeavor sees him he's rearing to fight but stains mask falls off and all the pro heros back away in fear and wat looked like recognition