The Tremonti Tubescreamer Trick 

I always thought, the best way to get rid of that Mesa bottom flub is to just use a Marshall. Works every time, lol!

Can't say I'm a fan of this setting. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

Gonna thank the youtube algorithm for bringing me to this video. Also got yourself a new sub from it, cheers!

I think Mr Tremonti only uses his Overdrive when he does leads , not on his rhythm sounds

This is pretty common practice in the Axe FX II. A lot of people take the T808 drive pedal block and do this basically. The only difference is there's more eq settings. In my experience I do it to boost mids.

I always loved Mark, I'm a huge fan of his playing and sound, even though I don't like how I sound with Boogies and low end pronounced amps in general.

Plug a TS into a clean amp with Mark's settings and it's apparent that it is NOT a clean boost. I use mine more traditionally: no drive, max level, but with tone all the way down. I'll just call it the Leon Tremonti setting. My favorite is actually a SHO boost with a tone control added. That is clean,& will slam the hell out of any preamp. It can be transparent or it can cut the flub or icepick as well, if desired.

Growing up in the late 80's all the guitar players in my town had the mean green Ibanez pedal it's a pure classic tone used for all styles of music...

Probably stated elsewhere, but Tremonti does not use the Tube Sceamer on rhythms. He goes straight into the amps. For leads/solos, he will use either the Tube Screamer or his signature wah (which has a boost built in), but not both simultaneously. The settings he uses on the Tube Screamer are the same as used by Jerry Cantrell of AIC. Back in his Creed days, Tremonti used a BOSS SD-2 and BOSS BD-2 instead.

Absolutely loving it, please more vids about tremonti from time to time! :))

Wow, I REALLY liked this video. You explained boosted mids perfectly with the “cocked Wah” expression. Most people love that I DON’T. Maybe I don’t know tone yet but I’ve been diming my recto with zero pedals. I just got it. All I have is guitar and amp. I LOVE the tone. I like the idea of boosting what is already there and tightening the low end flub just a bit. Idk if people are running these things loud enough. I keep my masters around 11-noon and Output at 9-11 and 11 is shaking the house and my spine with good tone.

I never really thought to break out of my comfort settings after fine tuning my favourite tones, but I wasn't aware of the full effect of these settings until now! I wish more insightful videos would pop up like this on my feed!

Tried this and this and finally got a true boost sound. I was only noticing a slight boost with my precious TS setting. I also use a OD808. Obviously a different circuit so it sounds different at these settings. I dialed some of the setting back and it almost sounds cleaner. In use a DSL100 and a Gibson LP

OD clean boosts in front of a cranked tube amp have been the sound of metal for A LOT longer than 10 or 15 years.

I think Mark's settings sound gnarly for rhythms, it sounds like it's going to blow up, which I kinda dig. I actually don't use a regular overdrive. Instead I use an EHX Hot Tubes since I run solid state and can't turn up super loud. It gives the guitar more body, kinda like a compressor and a saturator in one. It can go from a clean boost to sounding like an old Marshall cranked all the way up. It gets pretty muddy when you slam the gain and the volume and gain knobs drastically change the volume so you need to find a happy medium. Overall I think it's a nice alternative.

Hmm i don't like how congested it becomes with his settings. Its almost like there's too much signal hitting the front of the amp and it makes it sound flubbier almost. Maybe if you have a bright guitar this could work? thanks for posting though! Mark's settings sound more like a saturator instead of a clean boost.

Thanks Leon, I love this kind of video!

Historically I've always ran them like you... and I think that sounds better than the Tremonti method :)

I can't stand the feel of playing my amp without a boost. The Tube screamer just makes the amp feel so much better.

I've started using a Klon type pedal with my KSR and I'm using the distortion up about 3-4 then the treble a bit higher than noon and output almost full on. It keeps my personality of the amp but just gives me more of everything I love.

Love the content. Tried it within the Helix and was not impressed. I agree with you. IF you have a flubby tone, you will have a flubbier tone after using the MT/MAB settings. To me, it defeats the purpose of adding the ts808 before a high gain tone.

Cool video, thanks! FYI, I saw MAB at a clinic a few months ago and he's using a signature Overdrive by tom'sline. The gain was at full, the volume was at full and the tone was at 1 o'clock.

You would do a video like this Leon!! I LOVE it! And you know I’m a massive Tremonti fan, so this has to be for me right😉🤘🏻

I’m new to your channel, love music and play basic acoustic songs and even tho I play 4 chord songs and basic blues riffs and ac dc , I pick up my $100 guitar everyday it’s so soothing, love listening to your stuff very interesting keep it up!

Got to get on stage with mark tremonti last month. Real basic set up. Pretty much just uses his way pedal. Controls his gain and clean drive with the knobs.

Lmao I have never been a “set it at noon” kind of guy. Turn that fucker up and wake up the neighbors!

Well done and thanks for sharing brother! Be Well Leon!

Leon youre a fucking legend, such a genuinly lovely bloke!! Could watch youre vids all day. Much love braaa x x x

i love my recto, run it in tandem with my V3 and have mxr 108s in the rectos loop and turn it on for solos to boost mids cut bass and the nasty 8k range that makes it bad for solos but oh so good for rhythm

Related question: would the "Tremonti trick" with the tone *up* and/or the "pre-EQ filter" methods you demonstrated make for a good de facto Treble Booster, or is that completely different territory? I'm considering flogging off my OC44-based TB's and getting something less signal-path dependent to do the same or similar job. I'm looking at a Suhr Koko Boost or an MI Boost 'n Buff V5 (I have the V2 and love it but it's seen better days, unreliable) - but if my 'Screamer(s) could do the job, it'd save me a few bucks. Amps: Fender Bassbreaker15 (mid-gain setting, Marshall crunch) and Laney Cub12r (same, set for a nice crunch) run in wet/dry, wet FX to the Laney. 112 extension cab for the Laney as the combo is too boxy on its own. Guitars: Strat, SG, Gretsch Streamliner, Schecter PT Fastback 2. Hope that makes sense and helps you answer my question. Cheers mate, keep up the good work.

I love the recto but there is no master volume. You get all the channels tweaked and at the right volume then have to adjust every channel. Same with the 5150 amp.

Tremonti is such an overlooked player.

You have so much gain on your amp that I can’t even really hear that the tubescreamer is even doing much....

lots of people talk about the flabbiness of the rec. I run my single rec with bass at 3, or 9 o'clock. it seems fine then, though I don't really play the extreme high gain stuff. gain under 12 o'clock for modern and vintage gets me all the grind I need for punk rock. clean boost for solo, or ts pedal, for mid cut.

Having the wampler tumnus, I use it in a similar sense as Tremonti. It being very much so more of an OD than a boost, my typical TS were no bueno.

Don't have a tubescreamer but I use an sd1 full level no gain and full tone and it works almost like a treble booster

I always have my TS set with Level at 3 o'clock, Gain at 9 o'clock, and Tone at 11 o'clock. Close to the classic settings, but with a smidge of gain added and some of the brightness tamed. But I also used the classic settings you use as well. Gonna try the Tremonti settings for sure. Always have to be open to a new tone idea.

Hi! Does anyone here know how Mark use two amps (Mesa+Bogner) at the same time? In chain or stereo? Thanks!

I think by "Clean Boost" you mean full range boost. with the gained maxed it's hardly clean haha

I think he only kicks this on during leads to get some extra sustain and saturation.

This is a really great video! I’ve got two TS pedals, I need to try this :)

whatever settings that sounds good to you, go for it.

I played mark's amp during soundcheck, All I Was tour in 2013 (Triple recto and Ubershall). The TS was used only during solo parts, it give more gain and makes soloing easier. Mark's sound was tighter as hell, I think he compensated the flabbiness of the recto with the sharpness of the ubershall, never had a tone like this! Last but not least.. he was loud as fuck.

Hi Leon, Brilliant Video, big Tremonti fan his Solo Album Dust is excellent as are his others.👍👍👍 My Mesa 25 Mini can get a slight amount of flub, I have been using a MXR Zakk Wylde OD, among others, it does sound sensational! I noticed on Rig Rundown that he uses a Hand Wired TS, do you know if there is a difference between the TS808 pro reissue and the Hand Wired besides the $400-$500 price tag? Take care mate ♥️. Melbourne, Australia.

I used to use just a little bit of gain on my tubescreamer when I was playing into a 5150II. It was before I knew how you’re “supposed” to use it so I just dialed it by ear. Gain 10 o’clock Tone 1 o’clock Level 3 o’clock

Interesting video. I will speak for the Maxon OD808, not the Tubescreamer TS808. I e-mailed Maxon in Japan to ask them about the tone knob and they said that it is a boost / cut knob, with the noon setting being no cut or boost. It is not a high pass filter which cuts low frequencies like the tone knob on a guitar which fully turned up means there's no attenuation and fully turned down means full attenuation. I just thought I'd share this with you since you say it's a high pass filter in the video, which it may be in the case of Tubescreamers.

Interesting. Great video man!

I once set my low wattage Epi Valve Jr with a 4/12 Marshall cab with TS setting gain max tone max and level to taste and got a fabulous tone Didn't get to try with a band situation but was very pleased Experiment is the ticket cause you just never know

No one gonna talk about how this guy looks like Ralf fiennes aka voldermort?

How would you translate these settings to the tubescreamer based drive in the Axe FX? Dime the drive and level and tone to 0?

I roll off the tone of the tubescreamer with my marshall jubilee (which tends to be too bright sometimes) for chunky rhythm parts, it sounds amazing

Thanks for this! Let see how it’ll sound on my single rec.

Came out of the Gothenburg sound and it should be a TS9 (much happens louder).

On my ‘94 recto I prefer cloning the red channel to vintage over boosting the modern mode with my od808. They are similar sounds imo but I think the vintage mode feels just a bit better than TS boosted modern.

On the rhythm sound the Tremonti / MAB settings add a bit too much flub and fuzz for my liking. It sounds pretty good when you play lead though.

Neat. Gonna have to try this.

This is a really useful trick Leon! OK - here is my absolute novice amp modeler question - If one is using an Axe Fx III, then you simply EQ the sound to do what the Tube Screamer is doing in your demonstration? (massive eye rolling from the technologically advanced folks is allowed!) Kind of funny, I remember when the Tube Screamer was a new pedal!!

Marshall's need Tube screamers, to become Recto. Bit o Gain, dime the Tone, push the level. To wake up the sleeping Marshall. Or boost a Fender Up Hot.

Hey everyone has their ideas but I tend to like it with all three on 12 noon.

Hey! Did you tried mixing both type of boost? Haha. 1 with Mark settings, and 1 with the settings you always used.

Perfect testing of this. I really like Mark's and am surprised this is what he does. Have you heard the PRS mt15 amp? I haven't but online, sounds like a monster.

I saw Tremonti live last year, when he was playing before Iron Maiden. I don't know if it was because of the technical difficulties that occured, but his tone suuuuuuucked. All bass, no definition whatsoever, leads sounded super messy, I even got worried if the venue's a problem here. Then Iron Maiden went on stage and sounded AMAZING. Creamy leads, crisp articulate rhythm sections, tight bass guitar, full of life. Yeah, it wasn't the venue.

Thanks Leon! ;-) What do you think about Fortin 33 booster? (Fredrik Thordendal)

I set my dials like a 15 yr old 🤘🏻

What I like to do with my marshall and 808 that i just turn the gain all the way down on the pedal and just leave the level and the tone at 12oclock. I like a nice thumpy but not too saturated tone, so I don't like to boost much, it just does something good

Thoughts on tremonti prs signature amp?

I use different settings. 1. Maxed out level 2. Tone at 10 o'clock 3. Gain at 8 o'clock

Mark said he borrowed these settings from Michael Angelo of all people lol...that explains it. Not for me, but hey it works for Mark 💁

Recto? knobs at noon? are we talking man-love?

Recto (Spanish) = rectum (English)

I will have to check this video out after I get a good pair of headphones. I have a cheap pair of earbuds and the way I have the eq set on my phone would bogle your mind but it was the only way to listen to music the way it should sound. With that being said, I didn't hear any difference what soever. Maybe if I had studio headphones I would see a difference but for me at this moment you could have pushed a bottle cap and said it works haha

I never used a pedal like that,on my triaxis I have it set up to raise the gain the drive and the master volume all at the same time with one expression pedal, and if I needed more I could add the eq to that expression peda,l so I never tried any pedal in front of it

I use a gt od from mxr bassicly a tubescreamer with more colour. Tone almost all the way down, drive at 1 and otput at 5 to 6 just to colour the tone in parts of songs and leads

tubescreamers being used to tighten the tone on rectos..... not news

Try to place drive max. Tone 0. Level 80% then set the amp at 30% gain. Bass 40%. Mids 65% treble 70%. Presence for riff and 60% and 40% for lead . Then the sounds gets perfect

Wow suprizing ,alway use as the first way you showed , be right back gotta try it out 😀. Have a carol ann tucana 3 ,tube screamer for leads ,gain 0 tone 9 or 10 o’clock and volume at full

He got this trick from Michael Angelo Batio

You dime the overdrive and volume and set the tone at zero so it doesnt affect original. So you can overdrive your leads withouy coloring sound. This is the only setting people used for 60 years.

Tubescreamers are so transparent that I have never seen the point of them using space on my board.

hiho, joe satriani does the same thing with a ds 1. greetings, gunnar

Gee are u really going to notice it in a live mix

Or maybe just put the tone control where it sounds good...

Tremonti setting is like i using boss od1 for boosting amp od channel...level and gain all the way up

Is this like the Richard Gere trick? 🐹

Probably that’s why people think his wah pedal is too trebly. Because it matches his fat tone.

I did this when I had a Triple Rec. Not my favorite setting though.

I literally can't tell any difference when it's on or off.

My 808 tone settings are always 10-12 o clock..never more. Drive off sometimes slightly on...level most times only 14-15 o clock...sometimes full.

That vid preview pic though

I am afraid Tremonti (great player and musician) is wat off with this one. Anyone who has clinically analyzed tubescreamer output frequency settings would know that its typical (boost a recto) eq curve changes drastically as you start turning the drive up - it becomes flatter, totally counter to why you placed a tubescreamer in front of your amp in the first place (for a tight modern heavy tone). Plague Scythe Studios (or smth like that) looks at this in great detail in several videos on boosts)

“Mark Tremonti tubescreamer trick? Like every hard rock/metal guitarist of the past couple or 3 decades has been using a tubescreamer in front of their tube amp for increased definition, low end tightness and generally better tone. I didn’t know tremonti invented it lol

You are an awesome presenter and this is a really good demo of what the TS boosting is all about. Thanks dude, and keep up the great work! \m/

The difference is so negligible that it really doesn't matter

I really dig yer gear our musical tastes differ but you still got alot of relevant information , so thanks man . its not a passive aggressive comment honestly, i like hi gain sounds and tips on acheiving them is appreciated

Honestly with that much gain I feel you lose too much of your articulation. There's hardly any pick attack or feel/dynamics. The best way to get a heavy sound (especially recorded) is to back off the gain and turn the volume up. Make that amp work a little for you. Hit the Tube Screamer with a dab of gain to get sustain on a solo or use a little reverb, but if you overdo it, it just becomes mush.

I can't be the only person who doesn't hear the difference between no boost, regular boost and the tremonti boost... At least clipping wise, it's such an insignificant change, yet people chase and revere these settings. If there's too much low end, there's always EQ...

I prefer the definition without it.

Toob creamer

Interesting.

Marks way sounds thicker