The True Cost of Living in Portugal (Might Shock You)

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Josh and Kalie from ExpatsEverywhere logged their expenses for 30 days. They wrote down everything they spent money on and put it in categories. How expensive is Porto and is Portugal still worth moving to? How much should you budget?
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Context to our Expenses:
-Josh (39)
-Kalie (36)
-Cia (3)
-Pincho (14) dog
Stats behind our cost of living in these 30 days
-Rental contract signed in September 2021
-Two top ups for Josh and one top up for Kalie (Porto Metro)
-17 separate ride share trips (€3.73 avg per trip)
-3 sports entertainment events attended
-21 coffee/snack breaks (€5.99 avg per snack break)
-22 times one, two, or three of us had dinner/drinks out. 19 times we spent money. 2 of those our friends paid for us and we dropped the tip. (Irish Pub dinner and drinks for 3, €65 whereas, a Portuguese dinner for 3 €20 but we didn't drink there. However, their beer and wine by the glass was 2-3 euros.)
Percentage of our total expenses
20% Rent
13.6% Dinner/Drinks
11% Cia's Things (School Fees are a huge part of this expense)
10.7% Groceries
9.6% Health Care
6.6% Tithe/Charitable Giving
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@lokimikko3516 Год назад

Wife and I were soooo looking forward to this video after having our consultation with Kalie this Wed!! Incredibly informative and high quality. The thing everyone needs to understand: this video is to show the overall cost of goods and services. In all likelihood, you're not going to Lisbon every month...but you want to see how much a trip costs. You're not getting your teeth cleaned every month, but (hopefully) will get them cleaned at least once a year. For married people like us (no kids, but pets), we took out and/or adjusted costs at the end of the video.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

What an awesome comment! Thanks for incapsulating the reason we do these videos once a year. You've got it! - Josh & Kalie

@mameira Год назад

Total month expending: 3500 euro Total without coffee: 70 euro

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

HAHAHAHA - Josh & Kalie

@tinglestingles Год назад

We've been in Portugal for about 13 months. For us two - in Setubal, 3-bed apartment rental, €1060. In total, it has been €2,500, each month for us on average - (needs and wants - so everything!). We do not miss out on anything.

@alexsalamah7140 Год назад

Hi currently my wife and I currently live in Dallas Texas. We seriously considering retiring early to Portugal with no kids. Does D7 visa qualifies us for Portugal’s health system or do we need to account for buying health insurance? If so, do you happen to have a range or an estimate for health for 2? Thx for your response in advance.

@tinglestingles Год назад

@@alexsalamah7140 hi, once you’re a resident you can use the health system. We have purchased health insurance but will probably cancel at renewal. The cost of a years insurance - we’re both over 60 was around €1000 each per year. My wife joined a doctors surgery and had high BP and high cholesterol - she was given over 24 tests including mammogram, chest x-ray, ultrasound and blood tests - all on the public health service. All without cost. Yes, free. She also got a prescription which she had to pay for which was less than €4. Dentistry and prescriptions or not free but are reasonably priced. And she pays for spectacles these tend to be a higher price than the UK, where we are from. When she takes a trip back to the UK she normally buys them there.

@tinglestingles Год назад

@@alexsalamah7140 She also had to see a chiropodist (as we call it in the UK), she had some foot issues, and this was handled privately. She had a 50-minute appointment which cost €50, the issues were corrected, and she would certainly visit again, should she need to.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Nice! Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

If you can afford private health insurance, it can really come in handy if you need it when the public system gets overwhelmed. Alex on a D7, you're going to need some coverage initially. You'll need an insurance that meets the current requirements according to SEF/the consulate you need to go through. - Josh & Kalie

@estevaocunha5302 Год назад

Now just imagine that most of us Portuguese live on a minimum wage. So this is very out of the ordinary.

@diogorodrigues747 Год назад

I mean, that's not true. Only like 20% of the Portuguese live on minimum wage. However, indeed, wages are very low.

@sportinguista09 9 месяцев назад

@@diogorodrigues74720% where you get those numbers from? Almost everyone I know makes minimum wage in Portugal ..

@diogorodrigues747 9 месяцев назад

@@sportinguista09 It's literally coming from the National Statistics Bureau of Portugal, and it's data from 2023.

@Hdio99 Год назад

I am a Portuguese that follow your channel, I am 51 live near Lisbon (Cascais) work in Lisbon, so everyday commute with my car, similar to Josh and Kalie, we are a couple me and my wife 47 and my dauther 8 and a cat, the difference is we live in a 3 bedrrom apartment being purchased to the bank and for that I pay 385€ to the bank instead of the renting , we normally spend between 1800€ and 2000€ at the higher end per month, BUT differences compared to this month displayed by Josh is we dont travel so much , we dont go out to eat a lot , I think Josh and kalie go out a lot at least this month , we dont eat so much in coffees compared with them taking so much expensive cakes, pasteis de nada are not so often , A RECOMENDATION is that JOSH your insurance is way to high you dont need that you are still a young couple very healthy and your dauther is not a baby any more so out of that worry zone...you have a lot of insurances that cover you as much as you need on private for far less... BUT yes in General if you go out more than normal , if you dont take back a little , if you GO TO SPORT EVNTS and the like, its easy to spend more 1000€ easily with the abundace of offer...and the great weather that invites you to go out!!! BUT SUPER WELL DONE VIDEO ( ha and we dont have a video editor... :) )

@tinglestingles Год назад

We travelled to Cascais and Estoril yesterday. Lovely place! Easy for us to travel from our home in Setubal.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you for sharing a glimpse into your budget! We're shopping for a new insurance. :-) - Josh & Kalie

@cookmaster3626 Год назад

Cascais was a great place to visit and the festival of lights during christmas time, the giant wheel, the street cafes outdoor dining etc was great. Loved that place. Lucky you to be living there.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@Ivan Ivanov it's possible. www.idealista.pt/en/arrendar-casas/lisboa/com-preco-max_1000/?ordem=precos-asc

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@Ivan Ivanov not sure what you mean by realistic prices now. Are they baits? That's something that you're going to have to vet and discern yourself (or with the help of a company or friend to visit the apartment if you're trying to do this remotely).

@PaulStrizhevsky Год назад

Amazing video! You have no idea how helpful your transparency and realistic costs are to families planning to live abroad. Thanks so much, guys! P.S. The burger Kalie ate looked divine!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Paul! We appreciate hearing that. We're happy to do it! - Josh & Kalie

@divegirl4811 10 месяцев назад

Love the info and the format. I think you guys live your life to have fun, be social, and aren’t crazy extravagant but also don’t hold back. Sure you could spend less, but your quality of life might suffer too. And believe me - your costs are pretty reasonable for a middleclass lifestyle.

@ApenasUmSenhor Год назад

Hey, being a european, I am really curious. Why is it that so many people are trying to leave the US, which for centuries was the deram destination for refugees driven by poverty and government oppression from all over the world? Isn't there something fundamentally wrong if people from that country, which has literally everything to offer in terms of natural resources, flock in troves to a tiny country on the south-western edge of europe? If you look at it realistically, the type of migration we are talking about here is mostly that of people who have a decent amount of money at their disposal and are either retirees or "digital nomads". Both are not types of people with which you can build or uphold up a country, and portugal's own population is shrinking. Even though they bring money with them, this effect does not matter much as it goes into the pockets of the already rich, while the poor often get even poorer (think of rising rental cost in Lisbon). The native portuguese are often not fond of these developments at all, and their interest should come first. Regarding the health system: the phrase "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" counts in portugal as well as everywhere. My experience is that the state system is chronically underfunded and difficult to access for foreigners. I look at it as the refuge for poor natives (there are a lot of them, be sure of that. Even though they may not look like it, many are "living" on pensions of a few hundered euros ) who cannot afford an insurance. In our case, the "centro de saude" (local health center) is simply not assigning "family doctors" to foreigners. And without the assigned doctor, all you can do is come to the center on sundays for the "free-for-all" service hour, waiting easily 4 hours, or go to the hospital emergency in the next town (also waiting). Even our (well-to-do) portuguese friends don't bother with this and rather go to a private doctor or hospital instead (still affordable). And one final remark: if europe goes down economically, which IMO is anything but unthinkable (cracks are already showing) portugal, being largely dependent on external funding, will go first and end up where it once was, or God knows where... just my 2 cents.

@yumyumkitty2104 10 месяцев назад

Mass shootings are becoming more frequent; political and racial divisiveness is stressful and draining; healthcare costs & medical deductibles are through the roof; homes & rent and EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

@ApenasUmSenhor 10 месяцев назад

@@yumyumkitty2104 uh. Something is telling me that like almost all trends in the past decades, these issues will also spill over to the old continent before too long. In fact, they are already here, with portugal being the least affected for now. Health insurance costs, for example have already risen by 40%, which is most likely due to the increased influx of high-risk customers. If we keep running from the problem, it will eventually catch up with us. Sooner or later we have to face it head on

@ApenasUmSenhor 10 месяцев назад

@@yumyumkitty2104 funny that so many people mention the mass shootings, although hardly anyone has been affected by one. My guess is that in reality, it is high taxation, rampant street crime, homelessnes and drug abuse that are driving people out. At least that is what I hear from many US cities. The reason everybody blames the mass shootings is that this is more fashionable as it can be passed on to right wing politics (and, most importantly, orange man) and weak arms control. But in reality, it is the left (or "woke") wing's "defund the police" and identity politics nonsense that is most detrimental. Not?

@Applelikesme Год назад

3000 basically 1500 each lol, Portugal is becoming or rather has become a country for foreigners not us Portuguese because ain't no way we're spending 1500 every month, I mean we can but basically that means we're saving 0€ every month. Ridiculous.

@Mr.DJones 11 месяцев назад

The American way... :)

@roxane1237 Год назад

I noticed that some cultures outside of Europe tend to eat out a lot (Americans, Asians). Don't do this in Europe. Eat at home. Eating out is for special occasions. Bring your own lunch at work (if your workplace doesn't have a cafeteria like in France for instance). Don't have coffees all the time. Also the tipping. A couple of euros is more than enough. When you move to another country, you will have this feeling of being on holidays so of course during your first months your bills will be off the charts. Once you settle in a more integrated lifestyle you'll have bills that are closer to the average bills of the locals. A Portugese family would probably spend half of what you guys are spending. That being said, really good video with a good break down and honest recap on all the spendings. Wish you well in your adventure !!

@Mr.DJones 11 месяцев назад

Really true about Americans. It is interesting how videos are presented in an American standard (way of life) for other countries. I've found this out no matter what country it is. One reason why prices go up where Americans start to gather. :)

@karadizon4299 Год назад

We were in Portugal for three weeks last moneth traveling through algarve, Lisbon, Porto, nazares, madeira island and aviero, we had so much fun. Food and grocery was not too expensive. Pingo Doce is definitely my favorite grocery store in Portugal as 6L of water was under €3. We walked a lot in Lisbon and Porto. Bolt was inexpensive

@marksherwood5241 Год назад

Thanks guys. I really enjoyed this video. I've been watching for 9+ months now. This video was not just about finance... it was also about your lifestyle. As always, I appreciate your sharing. Mark & Joan (we are in the early part of our Golden Visa process) :)

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome, Mark! Thanks for following us for 9+ months. We appreciate it. You hit the nail on the head with the intention of the video. If you disconnect the lifestyle from the finances meaning is lost. It's like when people say, "I pay €350 for rent." But you don't know what city it's in, if it has been renovated, how big it is or other important factors that affect price and impact ones lifestyle. - Josh & Kalie

@chuckmurray1825 7 месяцев назад

We stayed at Mamas Shelter in Lisbon when we visited in 2022. It was our favorite hotel in our four weeks in Europe. The rooftop bar was amazing. The restaurant was good and apparently very popular. The rooms were small but very well done! It was quirky but fun. Also, very close to a Metro station and easy to get anywhere.

@lbr7248 Год назад

Thank you for sharing this great info. It is very helpful in researching costs for living in Portugal.

@ExpatsEverywhere 11 месяцев назад

You're welcome. Our pleasure. - Josh & Kalie

@cheersfromginnysteve8725 Год назад

Great information throughout the video! Very realistic assessment at the end allowing for extra expenses, but you did an excellent job illustrating how much to expect if you live your life to the fullest. Thank you, and keep up the great work!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you all! You saw the heart of the video! - Josh & Kalie

@MAKunle Год назад

Am coming to Portugal by October am very happy to take this bold step

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Congratulations. All the best! - Josh & Kalie

@pablobulldog Год назад

Crazy amount of detail! Thank you so much for the work you put into this. Cannot tell you how useful it was. Blessings.

@georgd3013 Год назад

Thanks for sharing your COL, i love how often you go for coffee, pastries, and beer!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome, Gerog. Honestly, it's part of the reason we moved. We wanted to be in a culture where it's normal to pause life and have a coffee, pasty, beer or all 3. We did notice that this month we went to more non-traditional places, which is a super accurate look at our life 365. - Josh & Kalie

@Skyflakes-q7c Год назад

What a great video! Thanks for the transparency, and invitation into your financial lives.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you, Eric. We've got to be vulnerable to be authentic. - Josh & Kalie

@sandyp4821 Год назад

Awesome video! Love the daily play by play. Thanks for the realistic outlook on expenses. Keep it up ❤

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Sandy! We appreciate the love. And we'll definitely keep it up. - Josh & Kalie

@Take5North Год назад

Thanks! Great to see a REAL budget happen in real time and compare to California prices

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you 🙏 That was our approach so people could get an idea and say “No way we’ll go out to eat as much as them and our rent is definitely going to be higher”. We felt like numbers on a blog only tell you so much. You’ve gotta see a glimpse of the lifestyle those numbers represent.

@FantasySoldier Год назад

Great video! Realistic, and happy that you itemized it near the end to make it easier to figure out my cost. Appreciate you guys doing these videos for us!!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Carlos. We're glad you didn't skip to the end. :-) We appreciate your comment. - Josh & Kalie

@Hide_and_silk Год назад

Wow that's a lot! We're expats in the south of France, retired with pets but still running two homes and we spend way less than half that each month.

@vanhalen45 Год назад

Amazingly lower cost for you out there in France...and with two homes as well. I wish I could learn more about how you pull this off.

@cal9112 Год назад

I think this couple a big spenders😮

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Great job! How do you spend your money? How big are houses, where exactly are the located? Are they on mortgages? How much are the mortgages? How often do you go out? - Josh & Kalie

@mikeabbott8521 Год назад

Great info as always. I appreciate the data-driven aspect of your videos; too many expat-oriented content is subjective and hard to relate to. The big takeaway, however, came at 5.54 mins into the video: there is at least one good Mexican restaurant in Portugal.

@sarahann530 Год назад

What's the difference between an ex-pat and an emigrant ?

@mikeabbott8521 Год назад

@@sarahann530 Three letters and a hyphen. Seriously though, to me an emigrant is leaving his old country behind forever; an expatriate maintains closer ties to his place of origin. Semantics. If/when we move to PT it will involve becoming citizens, so we'll be more immigrants than expats at that stage.

@sarahann530 Год назад

@Mike Abbott So an ex-pat doesn't embrace the culture or integrate . They just want to take advantage .

@sarahann530 Год назад

@F S So the UK passport would now be weak and they would be emigrants .

@imeandmyself525 Год назад

@@fs5775Better saying, the power of your bank account, and your credit card. In Portugal there are Angolan expatriates and immigrants, the passport is the same, the economic power very different

@Nordkapp65 Год назад

Thank you for this, you just made me reconsider my retirement expenses. Seriously I would have expected much lower expenses given Portugal is a lot cheaper than many other European States but it gave me food for thought as I would like to be similarly carefree in spending when I retire. I really need to up my savings or buy another property to rent out! Your mission if you choose to accept it, is to spend less than €5,500 per month with a similar spend but here in Dublin Ireland!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome and thank you for the comment. In Dublin?! I'm not sure we could even do this in Cork. :-) Even the Guinness there is more expensive than here in Porto. - Josh & Kalie

@PedroLamyLaranjeira 7 месяцев назад

Sorry, but for coffee in Portugal ask for a "galao" instead of 'Latte". You save money and is better.

@jsoxendine Год назад

Great video. Very helpful and instructive in understanding monthly costs.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Johnny. We're glad it was helpful. - Josh & Kalie

@abirmaliyanker4740 Год назад

Thanks! We, a couple, one 2 yo and a dog live in private house in Aveiro in the last year after we lived in Lisbon for a year. We spend around 2500 a month with a car and rent similar to yours. You are paying way to much for private health insurance, to the bank which I would recommend to change and for the hair cut;). Nice video though. Thanks again

@user-vx2wp1ez5s Год назад

Nearly choked when I saw the bottle of wine for €2.29. Overall, that looks like a pretty good deal.

@LNHOUSE Год назад

and you would be even more choked if you tried that wine, because its quite good!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

It's dangerous. :-) - Josh & Kalie

@uuuuttta Год назад

Thanks enjoyed that- Josh comment about Kalie spending is perhaps rich ...given his spend on the sports lol! We have been in Portugal for 7 weeks, all over and I don't know how your grocery budget is just 388 euro's. The two of us eat a lot of veggies, with some form of protein (not too expensive) and admittedly enjoy a decent bottle of red wine each evening (5-7 eurp's each) - but we eat our very seldom- due the home cooking being so good. Our food bill is about 20 EU a day for all three meals.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

What you didn't see is that Kalie was at all the sports events with me. We have season tickets to FC Porto but on day 1 the kickoff was late and we didn't have a sitter so we couldn't take Cia and Kalie stayed back with her so I took friends in their place. Regarding groceries, €388 was our 30 day total and if you cost that out per day, it's about €13/day for 3 people so your numbers sound pretty good despite 25 to 33% of your grocery budget going to a nice bottle of wine. - Josh & Kalie

@uuuuttta Год назад

For anyone considering living in Portugal your monthly costs are really valuable to consider. Thank you! Your dinner, drinks coffee snacks budget is just shy of being 160% more than your grocery budget. Thus the comment about being 'rich' when all is taken into account I am guessing you both have an equal hand in general food, drinks etc budget- its probably more equal then you may realise. My 2c :-) thanks for a great channel! @@ExpatsEverywhere

@JenShea Год назад

Thank you for sharing so honestly. You had a the trip to Lisboa & Aveiro & the two football games. They add up and like you mentioned, you don't take Pincho every month or have dental work done every month. This is good for people to get an 'idea' of the costs and they can determine what they likely would or might not have done themselves. Cheers ~

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome. Thanks, Jen. We feel like people can gauge how their cost of living might be using the suggested prices we show here. We know not everyone has our lifestyle. We know some people spend more and others spend less. That's normal. We're so glad that you get the heart of this video. - Josh & Kalie

@APV2013 Год назад

My wife and I (in our early 60s, just recently moved to Braga) enjoyed and appreciated this video, a great comparison tool for us. Terrific work, please keep it up!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Awe, thank you very much. We appreciate hearing that. :-) We create videos for people it you. - Josh & Kalie

@alexsalamah7140 Год назад

Hi my wife and I live in Dallas Texas are planning to retire early, when I turn 60, two years from now. We are considering Portugal as a potential retirement country. Since you guys are very close to our age and I hope you don’t mind me asking this question, but I wanted to ask what do you guys spend a month on the average? And what are you doing for health insurance. Do you have any trusted resources we can consult with regarding visas, taxes, and health care? Thank you very much ,

@APV2013 Год назад

@@alexsalamah7140 Hi, We are only 2 months into this adventure so we haven't settled into a firm budget yet. We are estimating 5-700 euros for groceries and restaurants. Utilities are far cheaper than in central Texas and that is acknowledging we have not gone through a summer and winter yet. With internet, phones, TV, electric/ gas, and water figure another 200. We have military insurance but supplemented it with a cheap policy with Medis (Millenium Bank) in order to cover us for our SEF appointment. A one year policy was 924.00. A complete one year auto insurance policy was 632. Otherwise, it all depends on your lifestyle (and how big your social circle is) to measure whether Portugal is really cheaper than where you are coming from, (If it's Dallas, then definitely!)

@alexsalamah7140 Год назад

@APV2013 thanks for your response! I really wish you the best in Portugal!

@AkishaAnthony 11 месяцев назад

This was very helpful. I am moving with my daughter so having this kind of statistics is really helpful.

@ExpatsEverywhere 11 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful! Stay tuned. We'll do another update in Feb or March. - Josh & Kalie

@sharondurant3273 Год назад

€3600 a month is about €43k a year. Living reasonably! You couldn’t do that in a Porto-like city in the US! Muito bom!

@jw841 Год назад

There are many places in the world you could live like a king on that amount. For example my girlfriend and I live well in Osaka Japan on about $2000 a month. And we eat out most nights. Medical care is also excellent and pretty affordable. We were considering Portugal but I think we get a lot more bang for our buck in Asia and life in general is pretty good here.

@sharilove8780 Год назад

@@jw841 how hard is it to learn Japanese? My husband loves all things Japanese and I have heard wonderful things about living in Japan....I just assumed it was super expensive to do so.

@jw841 Год назад

@@sharilove8780 I found learning to speak and understand Japanese fairly easy. It took me less than 6 months to be conversational. What is very difficult is reading and writing Japanese. This can take a longtime to learn. Yes Tokyo is expensive but Japan is not. There are lots of great places to stay in Japan thats very affordable. We are in Osaka and the cost of living is differently lower than Portugal and most European countries, except maybe for some Eastern Europe countries and the Balkans. But what we have is a fantastic quality of life here in Osaka. We are always doing something and haven't gotten bored yet. I spent a bit of time in Lisbon to check it out and found it very expensive to do much there. Once you've seen the old architecture and done a few walking tours and visited a number of cafes. It gets boring pretty quick. Whereas for us there is always something to do and see in Osaka and the surrounding areas. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

@portuguesetraveller Год назад

Great video, really shows random expenses that show up every month+ the main expenses that are guaranteed. Life in Porto is expensive but its still much cheaper than in Lisbon.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you, Helder. Yes, those guaranteed expenses like for like are higher in Lisbon. - Josh & Kalie

@markrodgers9527 Год назад

“Eating 🎉and Dinking 🍷with Josh & Katie!! Great video, very helpful and realistic expense tracking! Thanks Mark ❤️

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

It did feel that way, didn't it, Mark. Whoops. Thanks for your feedback. - Josh & Kalie

@danielsemyck7683 Год назад

Love your cost of living videos - great detail!!

@kathykaz3027 Год назад

It's so funny that Pincho's haircut costs 3x as much as Josh's lol. Great video. Would love to see the travel costs and comparisons (flight vs train to Lisbon etc)

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Now that you mention it, you're right! That is crazy. I don't bite Thiago though so that could be part of the price. When we did the plane v train vlog, the prices were about the same for the first class train and the budget airline plane. Had we all flown, it would have been a lot more because of the cost to take a dog in cabin plus paying individually for cabin bags. - Josh & Kalie

@wendywilliams8739 11 месяцев назад

Blimey, that's a huge cost of living for Portugal. Nearly twice the average monthly salary here.😮

@ExpatsEverywhere 11 месяцев назад

How much do you spend here? - Josh & Kalie

@samanthafromme Год назад

Awww! This video makes us miss you even more. Miss hanging out with you guys!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Awww, we miss you and love you guys too. Where in the world where we hang out next? - Josh & Kalie

@samanthafromme Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@@samanthafromme Surely it's a couple thousand dollar answer. - Josh

@PrtyNeal 9 месяцев назад

This video has hell sell me on moving to Portugal.

@bascujorge9900 Год назад

looking as portuguese, u have some very different spending style....very low rent,very high eating out spending, no retail consumption at all. transportwise u are probably at same cost of owning a half decent car. I do own health insurance, you dont want to spend 10 hours in the emergency room just cause u dont know if u have a strained ankle or a broken one :) cool video, cheers

@milancollin1819 Год назад

Great video. I believe you have many options to spend or to save. In your video is food covering almost the whole video (probably around 1000euro) and I believe also your transportation cost more because your using public transport for everything (probably around 750euros). We live in Setubal and spend around 4500euros with two boys in private school, rent 1500euro, a car and a dog. The beginning in a country is mostly more expensive as you have to find out all the steps. Your videos is a good reference for people to look at.

@faithbee1878 Год назад

Loved this. Please do more of these👍🏼

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you! We have been doing 1 update per year 3 years in a row now. How's that sound? :-) Any more frequent and Kalie might kill me. - Josh

@filipegodinho Год назад

Hey, thing is I think it could be half of that amount to upwards that total. Spot on were the variables 1-eating out 2-health insurance(people here use the public system or some alternative provided by the employer)

@kathyw9439 Год назад

A popular FB group recently published a "realistic" middle/upper class budget in Lisbon in excess of $6000 (maybe even $7K, I don't recall). Relieved to see your figures. Thanks for continuing to present your budget once or twice a year!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome, Kathy! You know that budget seems high for middle class but not for upper class. Upper class to me says €3000 apartment (or a lot more) and international school fees around €1,000 per month per kid and in that regard, it could be €6,000 no problem. - Josh & Kalie

@chriskasprzyk6235 Год назад

Repping the HEB bag in Pingo Doce. Nice. Take it you have done some grocery shopping in Texas? We just returned to Texas from a 3 week scouting trip to Portugal. Can't wait to get back.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Hey Chris, some friends of our brought us some goodies from their favorite grocery store in Texas and we gladly took it and have been reusing the bag ever since. It's a sturdy bag! - Josh & Kalie

@homyce Год назад

Wow Americans do eat out a lot! Luckily for me, I love to cook. I also don't drink, I hate sports, and I actually enjoy cleaning. I think I should be fine budget-wise in Porto. Can't wait!

@Mr.DJones 11 месяцев назад

Same here, I don't do half the things most Americans do, and I'm American. I'm thinking about Portugal, not sold yet. Tried Equador but didn't like it. Best of luck.

@homyce 11 месяцев назад

@@Mr.DJones thank you! How about Mexico, or maybe Uruguay? There are many options in Europe as well like Spain or Croatia.

@jennifermello8063 Год назад

You did eat out a lot, enjoyed quite a few snacks, the games, and travel. All extras. It seems like bolt was used quite a bit. The good news is you can balance all that out with your low cost of rent. Thank you for sharing.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie

@imirim Год назад

Excellent video. It encourages me still. Although the trend/uptick in strikes of various kinds has me concerned, not gonna lie. We are tracking to arrive on D7 in May next year. Having another trial run in September this year after two months there last year.

@allia6374 Год назад

Yeah, the food is not cheap there... unfortunately, it's almost same like in USA, or maybe more priced!!

@RussellT1304 Год назад

I love this video so much! But as a parent my favorite part was “Valencia’s in there somewhere.” 😂😂

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

LOL Thanks for the love, Russell. - Josh & Kalie

@robinbailey55 Год назад

Super useful as usual

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Robin! - Josh & Kalie

@Mr.DJones 11 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for your time and posting. Thinking about Portugal. I didn't like Equador, too much graffiti, petty theft, and smog, and the food was pretty bland. :) I freeze-framed on the wine prices, 2EUR - 8EUR, great prices, and I happen to love port. :) I'm by myself; no kids, pets, or exes, and I don't like coffee or sweets (just lucky?). :) For me, my US$2,700 should be enough. I live a pretty simple life. Thank you again for your time, really good quality videos. PS. The editing is excellent and you should take out your part-time editor to dinner next time. ;)

@mdavis8093 Год назад

You mentioned a 10 earlier tip for the Mexican food. I thought tipping was not normal in Portugal. In fact my Portuguese friend said do not tip. Do not bring that part of American culture here. We're you just "rounding up"?

@Hdio99 Год назад

I am Portuguese, well yes we dont tip often, but when you go out to more expensive restaurants I will say that 70 to 80% of Portuguese will tip...between 1 to 4, or 5€ when the bill is high....I never tip above 2,3 € and I tip like that once in every 2 month I would say, I am not a tiping guy....I never tip in cofee places, never...

@sarahann530 Год назад

Just raise the price of real estate instead so locals can't afford it . Typical arrogance

@mdavis8093 Год назад

@Hdio99 Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate it. I am going to a nice restaurant this evening so now I know! Obrigada.

@imeandmyself525 Год назад

@@mdavis8093 and there will probably be a "suggestion" on the bill to add a 5% tip, which is already included in the total, pay attention to what you actually want to pay

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

We were out with friends and they like to tip. We knew that so since they offered to pay, we offered to tip. The service at this place was exceptional. The recommendations and attentiveness was outstanding. I probably could have tipped €5 and everyone would have been cool but a €10 was my smallest note. It was probably 10-15% of the bill due to amount of food and drink for the 5 of us. - Josh & Kalie

@USagainstTHEM85 Год назад

Great video guys! Love that you're UFC fans as well! 🇧🇷🥋 Wow, Cia is so big now! 🤯 #AmazingExPatParents

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Thiago! We do love UFC. MMA is our 2nd favorite sport. Cia is getting big. - Josh & Kalie

@mkoschara Год назад

Still an amazing life for less than 4000 dollars a month :) Thanks for sharing.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Truly amazing life and to be fair most months we do it for less. :-) You're welcome and thank you for watching. - Josh & Kalie

@mkoschara Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere Yes, Diana and I are 4+ years in Costa Rica (San Jose area) and our costs are remarkably similar. We've had significant inflation and a recently weak dollar (Against the colon, which is hard to believe) so costs have really jumped up in the last 12 months. I absolutely love Portugal but making Costa Rica permanent was much easier. Pura Vida!

@MamaLlama007 Год назад

Great info!! Love the details!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you! - Josh & Kalie

@csd1449 Год назад

Now a realistic view: a couple with no children earning the minimum national wage and renting a one-bed flat can live comfortably in Portugal. This is the case for so many people. If you are retired you are exempt of pay for a lot of stuff, so can't manage on a similar income you're doing something wrong. It may be harder for a single individual, but that is the case in any country.

@vanhalen45 Год назад

I support the idea of getting that monthly figure down to around $2400 to $2600 range. To folks here in the U.S. this would sound like a bargain. $3600 seems a bit steep to me,...oh well.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

€3,600. It's more than I would have liked to spend, but it's usually around €3000. - Josh & Kalie

@PrtyNeal 9 месяцев назад

For a family of 3 that's a bargain here in the US

@marinagarcia8524 Год назад

As a português citizen who grew up in Massachusetts. Trust me when I say you do not need private health insurance.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks for sharing. We're not sure that we agree with that absolute but appreciate your opinion. - Josh & Kalie

@Lion-fj3wp Год назад

Thanks for sharing 👏 Cia is adorable 🌎

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome. Thank you. We love her. - Josh & Kalie

@username42 Год назад

I enjoyed watching the video that detailed daily expenses. I'm curious to know how much it would cost for someone who doesn't eat out often, cooks at home, and uses either a bike or public transportation to commute to work. This is especially relevant for recent graduates who may not have a high salary as expat non eu citizen.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you. If you're living alone in a city like Porto, rent can be pretty pricey. For basic cost of living think about €1,500-2,000 if you're having to get a rental right now because prices are so high in the city. If you live somewhere else that's cheaper, it can be much, much less. Public transportation could cost you around €35 per month. - Josh & Kalie

@username42 Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere thanks for the answer so having an offer of about 35 to 40k gross annual salary as usual for a eng salary, it won't be enough to survive after taxes by living alone?

@moward301 Год назад

I missed these videos! Thanks for your transparency, and sharing guys! Great video, as always, you rock!❤

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome, Mo! We do it for you. Thank you. - Josh & Kalie

@rezzob Год назад

that cost correlates with top 10% of earners (ie you need to make €90k to live like that) and without any saving or investment or retirement included. that’s a lot for an average family.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

We make half of that. 😉 - Josh & Kalie

@rezzob Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere I promise you that you guys make closer to €90k than €45k ;) But I should be more clear, I meant gross amount. If you don’t pay income tax then maybe €70k could work

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@@rezzob We each take $2,000 distributions each month. 🙂

@rezzob Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere hey mate, I appreciate the content as someone who wants to live in Portugal (just came back from a scouting trip to Portugal). So I hope I didn't come across the wrong way. I was trying to say that figure is a lot vs Portuguese median income for an average family or retiree (more than 5 times minimum wage). Probably you are running a business (in form of a trust or incorporated) and of course it doesn't make sense to draw more contribution than your average living cost (tax rules etc.). Again thank you for the excellent content (trust me I have watched a lot of other channels on Portugal too. Only other one comes close imho is David in Portugal).

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@@rezzob Hey. I didn't take any offense at all. Thank you. We appreciate the support and viewership. Dave's been producing some nice stuff and we hope to catch up with him at some point. We haven't reached out to him yet. Yes, statistically, we're making more than the average Portuguese. Thanks for connecting, Rex. Take care. - Josh

@UnSeRv Год назад

well i was expecting a lot more, i live alone in a tiny city close to aveiro, no kids, no rent to pay, i don't travel often and i spend on average 1300 per month... so in the heart of porto that's actually cheap :p

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks for sharing! - Josh & Kalie

@honeybeejourney Год назад

Why do you have no rent to pay?

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@@honeybeejourney likely because they bought a house with cash.

@bobtapper Год назад

This was great! I lived in Portugal for 10 months during the pandemic, and spent 3 months in Porto. I loved Base too! I miss Portugal and plan to return soon. Stay happy guys!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Bob! We're super happy. Have a safe trip back. - Josh & Kalie

@SirJackOcean Год назад

Thanks!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you very much as always for the awesome channel support! You're a rockstar. - Josh & Kalie

@rafaelfonsecaportugal Год назад

Excellent video as usual 😊

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, friend! - Josh & Kalie

@wendylmorris3872 Год назад

Interesting video! Thanks for being so honest, .. I'm not good at budgeting either! 😆

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Wendy! How about construction budgeting?

@davidmartinspresents Год назад

Question: Kalie mentioned it's free delivery for online ordering of groceries iff total is over 100EUR. If you order a total of 105 EUR but ends up being 98 EUR because they did not have all the items, will they still give you free delivery?

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Yes, it's still free delivery. - Josh & Kalie

@cynthiamcknight9002 Год назад

Eating out is always the category that we say we need to cut back on! And it’s so expensive now!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Yes! It was especially bad this month, but we've gotten it under control. 😁 - Josh & Kalie

@HoneymoonAlways Год назад

Love it! Now just add an extra 1000 for rent and another 250 or so for everything else and you get a Lisbon cost of living.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

:-) Thanks! Yeah and honestly our rent is cheap compared to 2023 prices for a T1+1. - Josh & Kalie

@pures1n Год назад

In contrast I wonder how much it would cost you to live where you came from in America. Every restaurant for instance, add tips 20%. Health care coverage would drastically change. Safety drastically change(no price on this

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

We would have to live in a different way for sure. One thing is certain, Mexican food would be cheaper in the US where I'm from. LOL - Josh & Kalie

@stevenmarcus8933 Год назад

Considering how often you ate out, had coffee and snacks, went to sporting events, etc., $3,600 for a family of 3 and a pet seems very reasonable. You are enjoying your lives as you should. How much would that month have cost in a major U.S. city? My only suggestion: Stop going to Starbucks. There has to be better coffee there. 😃

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Yeah, Steven, we're not shocked by it. We did realize during this 30 day window that we ate at foreign restaurants a lot compared to Portuguese. We're definitely enjoying our lives. I'm not sure how much it would cost in a major US city. We've never lived in a major US city. The Starbucks thing is a funny one. The reason for it happening so often is it's in a central area where several ladies commute to for their meet up and it's right by a metro. SO is where we go for good coffee. - Josh & Kalie

@honeybeejourney Год назад

I think to have that lifestyle in my city in the central coast of CA would easily be $5,000 or more.

@anam708 Год назад

Kalie - I think you are awesome and brave for sharing into these open forums. Ignore the negative comments directed your way. Josh’s included!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Awww, Ana, I'm going to share this comment with you. We really appreciate it. It's really sweet of you and it's nice for us to read. Much love! - Josh & Kalie

@TheSimArchitect Год назад

Interesting you chose to fly/take a train instead of just driving. Roads are pretty good and the country is so small. Plus, with a small child and a pet it's much easier to rent a car (if you don't own one) and "go"... 🤔

@scottsorenson1859 Год назад

Very useful information. A couple of points to clarify. €750 for rent in Porto seems quite low. Would the same apartment rent for that price today after the dramatic increases in recent years? For example we rented a nice unfurnished two bedroom in Lisboa (Avenidas Novas) three years ago, on a three year lease, for €1500 (though our gracious landlord is raising it now to only €1650). Similar apartments now rent quickly for over €3000. Also with regard to grocery prices I've read that the one year increase has been 25% and that has certainly been our experience. Still groceries are much cheaper than the US though.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks, Scott. The thing about our rent was discussed at the end. We got our contract in 2021. Our rent has gone up €50 in that time, which is fine by us, but we fully acknowledge and have discussed on the channel about how a T1+1 like we have would be closer to €1,000 in today's current market. Regarding grocery prices, I would be interested in reading what you read. Our grocery bill was slightly lower than last years, but it's also due in part to eating out more and therefore, we cooked a bit less in these 30 days. The best thing we could do from a like for like perspective would be to go back to a video we did in 2021 when we compared prices in 3 grocery stores shopping using the same list and we go back to maybe one of them and see what the price difference is. I'll have to think about how to shot that video and see if people are interested in seeing that. That gives me some food for thought. - Josh

@scottsorenson1859 Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks for the information Josh. It looks like real estate prices in Lisbon have increased quite a bit more in Lisboa than Porto. The information on food prices came from an article I read in The Portugal News citing a monthly survey of 63 essential food item prices conducted by Deco Proteste. This was a couple of months ago. I just checked with them and they now say food prices have dropped a little since then (the last two months). As of now since the war in Ukraine began (February last year) the basket has increased by 19.86%. NB We've been here for three years but still get a lot of value from watching your videos. Keep up the good work!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@@scottsorenson1859 Hey, thanks for the reply! Yeah, definitely prices have increased more there by percentage than anywhere else. We were recently quoted for a renovation project from a company based in Lisbon. I'm sure the number quoted would work in Lisbon no problem, but here it would be tight. You know? The quote came in a good 50% more than a bid with a really good company based in Porto. We're happy to hear that you're still getting value out of our videos. That's cool. We'll definitely try to keep it up. We're blessed to be able to do this full-time. - Josh & Kalie

@mufana1 Год назад

O_o When i left Porto in 2017, i was paying 325€ for a T1+1 right in the city center....

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

@@mufana1 was it fully renovated?

@clago57 Год назад

@17:06 You took an HEB bag to Portugal??? OMG You got my subscription!

@jtp1984 Год назад

Was thinking of Portugal originally but now Spain is my preference to retire. Better infrastructure, more options of living areas & comparable or even lower costs.

@natalias8305 Год назад

Yes. Portugal not an attractive choice any more. We need to wait till the war in Ukraine is over and all those Russian and Ukrainian back to their countries. Prices will drop .

@jroar123 11 месяцев назад

Interesting following you guys around in Porto. I lived down in Morocco a few years back and I saw my monthly costs at about $800. That was with myself and my wife at the time. We moved to Las Vegas and while I was working in Saudi Arabia, she dumped me for an Italian man. As an expat, these things happen. So, I am on my own and thinking about moving to either Portugal (in the countryside) or Ifran, Morocco. The Portugal countryside from what I have heard is much more affordable than Porto. Ifran is a college town up in the Atlas mountains of Morocco. It's affordable and the place looks like a European German town that sees lots of snow to ski.

@ExpatsEverywhere 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear about your wife at the time. For sure, outside of the cities it's cheaper. We've also got private insurance, which isn't necessary per se and we have a kid in school. - Josh & Kalie

@AO-jm5ep 4 месяца назад

If you are old and alone, Portugal is not the right country. Portugal is characterized by family. You need a country that has surplus young people to help support the foreign elderly. Money doesn't replace people. Then there are not enough family doctors in the interior of the country. You must be able to drive a car very well until you die. The roads inland are often narrow and winding. There are no Uber drivers there and of course no one speaks English there. If you're lucky, French.

@jroar123 4 месяца назад

@@AO-jm5ep I sort of thought the same thing. I once lived in Kenitra Morocco for a few years and it had everything I needed including doctors, rides, restaurants, banks, entertainment, and affordable housing. I wish I had stayed there instead of moving back to the States. Live and learn I guess. I also happen to be looking at Italy as they have one of the best medical systems in Europe and housing is very affordable although you will have to invest some money to get them up to a livable quality. there only problem I see there is that most homes in Italy are on multiple floors which means stairs. I'm sure there is someplace out there that might be on one level but you do have to hunt for it. Other than that, the food is great and the wine is the best. I would stay in the States however the cost of living is so high that a single-bedroom apartment (safe and nice) starts at about $1000 per month and up. I see so many older people selling off their furniture and moving into RVs (recreational Vehicles) or boats and paying docking fees per month. To say the least, it's challenging to grow old these days and I feel sorry for so many that are struggling just to make ends meet.

@AO-jm5ep 4 месяца назад

@@jroar123 Do you know "Prepper Princess"? She gives inspirations to live in the USA with two dogs. If you watch her, it is quite interesting how she changed her life through the years.

@2minutes2travel 2 месяца назад

Hello! Love the content! I’m curious when you were apartment searching, was it difficult to find pet-friendly options? Did you have to settle in something you’d rather not be in, due to having a pet. Thanks!

@dcole6328 Год назад

Just came back from Lisbon and Porto. Loved Porto and loved this video. I could not find an evangelical church there that was at least partly in English.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks for the love! English speaking churches do exist in Porto. - Josh & Kalie

@PawsomePlanet-1 Год назад

It is a catholic country!!!! Oh please stay in America....

@spiveyg89 Год назад

Have you guys done videos for people single unmarried people

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

We haven't because it's been more than 14 years since we were single and unmarried people. :-) We have a podcast episode with a single guy, Veronica (American in Portugal) has been on our channel, and I'm sure there's a few others that we've spoken to on videos. - Josh & Kalie

@spiveyg89 Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere ok cool! I only ask cause it's something that I'm really looking into. I'm active duty military and looking to live overseas especially in Portugal. I will check out those resources

@Mr.DJones 11 месяцев назад

@@spiveyg89 Side Note spiveyg89. I'm a Vet, have been retired for 6 years, and am on 60% Disability. My suggestion to you is to make sure every time you go to the doctor or clinic, keep a copy of the report. And go to the clinic if something is wrong. I have some problems now that are from the service, but didn't go to the doctor so can't prove it is service-connected. Just saying. Best of luck. 1973-77 Army.

@ricktoews1145 Год назад

Josh & Kaylie! Thanks for the data! Not just the grand total but totals by category. I need to get my ducks in a row and figure out how to make this happen.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Hey, Rick. You're welcome. We felt like this was the "best" way to get this information out instead of just putting grand totals on a screen and then talking about it. - Josh & Kalie

@MTBwithMiguel Год назад

3600 is definitely super high for Porto... You could get by, comfortably with 2500€.

@bismillahhomeoclinic9635 10 месяцев назад

No doubt it's higher than normal!

@thematrixteam5126 Год назад

I'm sure its possible to live off wayyyy less though and still be happy.

@fragilechords5118 Год назад

I was interested in seeing the cost of the hotel. It wasn't listed in the hotel part of the video.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

We had booked the hotel outside of the 30 day tracking window so that money was already spent. - Josh & Kalie

@fragilechords5118 Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere Oh I meant I was interested as a possible place to stay when I visit. Depending on the price.

@pauloferreira1319 4 месяца назад

Paying above 300 euros per month in health insurance in a European country is wild, why would someone do that?

@AO-jm5ep 4 месяца назад

In Germany you have to pay 860 EUR per person for public health care, the public is not very good, if you are working and earning an equal amount. So 1720 EUR for a family of three.

@dickielarue1451 Год назад

Greetings from Estoril...Been a legal resident of Portugal since 2016...Orginally from Texas...Rented in different areas of the country...Ponte de Lima, Alcantara and now Estoril...Pre-pandemic between my gal and I we kept are budget of around €2k euros a month...That is with rent, utilities, groceries and some travel within Portugal...The biggest factor in saving money is not owning a car...The public transport for us is good enough, not perfect but affordable to do almost anything you need...Post pandemic are budget has gone up to between $2,500 and 3k euros a month between 2 people including the cost of inflation...Coming from Austin, Texas I could not live in the areas I want to live in for 3k a month period...It's been a blessing to call Portugal home...Cheers from Beautiful and Sunny Estoril! 🇵🇹🌞😉🐶

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thanks for sharing, Dickie! Enjoy the sun. - Josh & Kalie

@roybrooks2684 8 месяцев назад

@dickielaris1451 how about owning a scooter, is that cost efficient or you still incur costs like owning a car??

@dickielarue1451 8 месяцев назад

@@roybrooks2684 Greetings from Beautiful Braga, today...A lot of folks I know, own scooters some even motorcycles...Very economical in the cities...However for me, I do not own a car...I took the AP train to Braga and used my Taxi driver to take me to a small village in Geres which is a beautiful place to hike and explore...as an example. The cost benefit vs. having transportation is cheaper in the long run, saves time and let's me get on with life so to speak...I do not miss having a car...Boa fim de Semana! 😉👌🇵🇹😉✌️

@joywiggins 4 месяца назад

I’m moving from Austin too! Going to contact you if that’s ok!

@2010katak Год назад

The soccer expenses for Josh balance Kalie’s eating out I think.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Hey Les, Kalie was at the soccer matches too or at least had a ticket. The first match was too late so we used Kalie and Cia's tickets to go with friends. :-) Kalie's not off the hook. - Josh

@2010katak Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere I see, but she’s such a hard worker I think she deserves every treat! You go girl!

@aweedful Год назад

Let me tell you: to earn 3500 net in Porto you would fall under the top 0.5% earner.

@rodatilla Год назад

I think most surprising to me is how cheap car share rides are. For the shortest distance/time in San Francisco I’ve never seen a bill of less than $9.

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Yea, you're right, Aaron. Sometimes we wonder, how's the driver making any money?! - Josh & Kalie

@tonistojcev6281 Год назад

Thank you guys. Also Josh I can’t wait to come to Portugal next year. I’m taking you out for beers lol maybe catch a game real football lol. Me and my wife we’ve been following you guys for a year or more. I’m very excited for your videos really truly appreciate it all you guys. We still not sure where we like to retire we have to kids 6 and 8 so if you have any ideas please let us know. The good thing is my wife is Brazilian she is fluent in Portuguese and my kids are good so far. I’m not but I’ll be ok lol. Anyway thank you really and I do follow Alan too you guys had a video with him. So I’m following you all guys. Thank you again any ideas of where you think is good to move with two kids please let me know. Everyone saying Silver cost!!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you for the love, Toni! We'd gladly go out for beers and to watch football. We're at the Dragão basically every other week. :-) - Josh & Kalie

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Regarding where to move with kids, most everywhere is great for kids because of how kids are integrated into Portuguese society. - Josh & Kalie

@CamandRenae Год назад

My wife and I just started researching about possibly moving to Portugal. Thank you for the great videos. What do you guys do for jobs? We currently are Americans living in Florida

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you very much, Cam. Both of us are now fully working on ExpatsEverywhere. - Josh & Kalie

@zacbarnes2187 Год назад

I noticed you have "tithes & giving" on here. One of the things that is preventing my wife and I from making the jump is not being able to find a good church in Portugal. My assumption is, like in most places in Europe, web presence is not very strong. If it is not too personal of a question, have you all had luck on this front?

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Hi Zac, yes, we've found a great church in the Porto area that we've been going to and serving in for over well over a year. There are several church here that have services in English and Portuguese. - Josh & Kalie

@zacbarnes2187 Год назад

@@ExpatsEverywhere that is great news! Thank you for sharing 😀

@honeybeejourney Год назад

There’s a Calvary Chapel in Porto- far as I know.

@pettynerd1285 Год назад

Thanks for the info, another great video!

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

You're welcome. Thanks for the comment. - Josh & Kalie

@xmaniac99 Год назад

Could be me, but did Josh’s hair become a bit greyer after hearing total😢😮❤

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Truth! LOL - Josh

@ciprianoneves7246 Год назад

Very informative video. How do the portuguese making the minimun wage make it?

@ExpatsEverywhere Год назад

Thank you. They surely don't eat out like we do. They might own their house or got a mortgage at a time when they bought at a very low price. When they go out to eat, they'll eat Portuguese food. - Josh & Kalie