When I was a little kid I watched "Land Before Time" and in one of them the river was drying up and the angry Triceratops just kept blaming different thing, accusing in no real logical way. The Brachiosaurus said to him, "it doesn't have to be anyone's fault." The Triceratops responded, "but it has to be someone's fault right?" Which it turns out that a bad storm had dislodged a rock or something and it was blocking the river way up the mountain. All this reminds me of something I learned when I was like 7 years old, so if the rest of the world could catch up, that would be great.
it's also crazy how this rationale could explain every whacko group out there - flat earther's, white supremacists, people who actually think there are TWO Olsen twins when in fact it's just one woman moving back and forth really fast... the list goes on
Isn't that terrifying? I see 4K dislikes. I was just happy to see that the likes way outnumbered them. I've seen people die because of their reliance on "natural" cures. Everything is natural! What else would it be? Supernatural? (Although supernatural cures would be awesome, a la Harry Potter! But I digress.) . I'm not crazy about the pharmaceuticals "industry" myself, but since most of this tech is developed with public money at universities, and it wouldn't be in the drug company's best interests to kill their customers, most drugs are pretty safe.
Except it's not "entirely different science." It's research that has been worked on for decades. And there aren't "different sciences," just people without a scientific background claiming other strategies work better.
Lol hi. If it makes u feel any better, i am part of this group that you speak of and i still watched this video and as i usually do, will share this info with others. There are definitely alot of open-minded people, like myself, willing to watch and learn about the many sides of an argument. They, like all others, just simply choose to stand by what works best for them. The thing that i feel comes into play the most is when a group believes that their version is RIGHT because ‘science’ or because of their biases as mentioned in this video. It is my belief that ALL answers and responses are valid and that science, like literally everything else in Life, is subject to the perspective of he/she that perceives it☺️. “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” Either, way, you and i are brethren and for that simple reason, i love you. I hope that wherever you are in the world, and whatever you are doing, that you are choosing happiness and Love. 💖
That sounds like your [the op's] own cognitive biases to me. To me it looks like the title is very carefully chosen to appeal to readers from both extremes of the debate.
People don't click or not click on videos like this because of the content. They choose to or not to based on their disgust for the assholes in the comment section. Case in point.... See your own comment.
I like that the title is almost clickbait for them though
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@@MsHoneyBBQ Science is not subject to the perspective, since science is not an opinion or decision. Science is based on true evidence and facts, but you can choose to believe them or not.
It's funny, I am from Brazil and since I was a baby, I took all the vaccines I can get and should get and I am completely fine. I have never heard of vaccines giving Autism until I came here to the U.S. and I am surprised at how U.S. citizens think that when Brazil citizens who don't think that, and on top of that, they live in a country with a lesser medical care.
Billy Mays In Brazil, I am assuming that you, or certainly your parents at least, have seen people suffer from vaccine preventable diseases. Like Hank said, that personal experience has a huge effect on shaping the thought process of everyone.
teehee1604 Although that is true, I support and believe in vaccines because I have never actually seen a case where vaccines have done something bad. While I do have a friend with a son that got autism from a vaccine, it was apparently the nurse's fault and a fault in the make up of the vaccine.
Billy Mays Or maybe he *didn't* get autism from the vaccine and the two are not linked. It's like saying "Fred eats more ice-cream than John and Fred got skin cancer, so ice-cream must cause skin cancer", when in fact both are the result of a third variable - time spent in the sun. Correlation does not equal causation!
crazy808ish No, I'm going to let my dog out when she has to shit. And i can't stop her from chasing an infected cat so, I'll get her vaccinated. Dogs don't live shorter lives by being vaccinated
With the amount of misinformation out there now readily accessible to people through the internet, I think now's the time for public education to start incorporating real critical thinking into the curriculum. Teaching kids about how to actually assess the information that they're constantly bombarded with through social media, and how their own brain can hold onto ideas that aren't necessarily true.
@Shrek LMAO the funniest thing about those people is how narcissistic it is to believe that what they believe after reading something on Facebook has more credibility than a doctor or biologist
Yes please because the older generation missed that boat. Especially Generation X, that’s the generation who support the most conspiracy theorist. And if you don’t believe me pay attention and observe.
Justin Dolan When you cant produce a single research paper in yars, and all you tout as proof are silly conspiracy theories, you know you have lost! So congrats on that!
If you (or anyone else concerned) did your own research you would find scientific research by the CDC that made an undeniable link to autism. Even just reading the insert with a vaccines you can see the potential for damage.
The bottom line is there is no trust left. Decades of manipulative commercialism has left everyone victimized by things we don't fully understand. The consensus should be to repair this trust and remove potential corruption or conflicting interests.
Honestly it's a shame that people are more worried about their kid having or developing autism as opposed to their kid possibly dying from not being vaccinated.
If they disliked the video it doesn't mean they disliked the information. It can be bunch of other reasons like the guy talking or the way he made a video. But yeah, those people are scary..
I'm scientifically literate and I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but i don't like this video... This video doesn't address the fact that big pharma's report card isn't exactly great when it comes to quality control and "for profit" corner cutting.
Do you really trust your government to do what's best for you? The pharmaceutical companies are making billions off the vaccines and their lobbyists are paying off the politicians to promote vaccinations. As with everything, follow the money. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and think for yourself.
I studied biology in college. One thing I learned was that vaccines need to be very specific. One anti-vaccine proponent told me that vaccines are mutated viruses. If this were true, the vaccines would, likely, not work. This completely invalidated anything else that person had to say. Another person told me that vaccines don't work. To that person I ask, "When was the last time you heard of someone getting smallpox? So many people don't understand how science works. When they see a study that supports their ideas, they don't look at the study with skepticism. They just use the study to tell people things like, "Vaccines are mutated viruses," or "Vaccines cause genetic mutations." Make sure you learn about how research should be done. Then go over your sources with a fine tooth comb.
Kimberly Moraes Walker if we are to analyze the claim that:the virus has mutated. A mutated virus wouldn't be recognized as the same virus because it's "mutated". So the right question "is not" to ask:When was the last time you seen someone with smallpox? The right question to ask is: has the smallpox virus truely been eliminated?...or has it mutated into a new disease under a new name; One of the thousands of new diseases killing many people today that did not exist in the 1700, when smallpox was an epidemic. Are we replacing an old epidemic with a new epidemic? These are some of the questions you should be asking to properly guide your research of the specific claims you presented. Unless you're dealing with the biases this guy just talked about.
The thing that makes the claim vaccines causing genetic mutation for me at least is completely thrown out the window when you come to think that just your cells splitting causes genetic mutation the thing that makes sure your not still an infant.
Kimberly Moraes Walker People fear what they don't understand. They don't understand science and they think they're geniuses which leads to stupidity. But it is not them to blame, it is their upbringing and their own minds
@@ChinChinMandarin cv19 vaccine can cause a hyper immune response causing massive inflammation, a cytokine storm, especially in the elderly, so go figure. I like my chances better with vitamin C which supports systems not destroys them.
@@Noor-jw2tn Vaccines don't destroy your immune system, also Vitamin C and all other vitamins and Minerals cannot treat or prevent Covid-19. Stop blindly believing in unproven conspiracy theories and do your own honest research. You were lied to by Moronic Anti-Vaxxers and Conspiracy Theorists.
"We objectively believe the universe is amazing and fantastic" - I agree with this part of the statement "amazing and fantastic" from my cognitive bias but I argue this is not objective, but a subjective observation, or an opinion. :)
As an autistic adult, can I add two very critical additions to this specifically in regards to the vaccines cause autism thing? 1. Every time someone says this, they're telling me, an autistic adult, that they'd rather risk their child dying of a preventable disease than become like me. Maybe not intentionally, but that's what they're saying. Imagine that's being applied to some attribute you have, that someone would rather their innocent child getting a deadly disease than be like you. You as a person. 2. Autism is NOT an inherently bad outcome. Even the autistics who society see as severely disabled, the ones who are nonverbal and have learning disabilities, have by and large STRONGLY agreed that if there were a cure for autism they wouldn't want it (link at bottom of comment). We autistics, in general (and those of us who haven't been programmed to hate ourselves), like being autistic. It's not a disease, it's a state of being. It's who we are. Yes, there are challenges, I would never dream of implying that there aren't. I know how hard it was for my parents to raise me, and I know what it's like to be disabled because society wasn't built for me. I know. But that doesn't make it inherently a bad thing. Most autistics, given the right support and the ability to love themselves and play to their strengths, will grow up to be functional, happy people. In fact, many of us who don't, find ourselves struggling BECAUSE we've been taught to try to not be autistic and we're fighting ourselves in a world where we need to be supporting ourselves as much as possible to succeed. To summarize my second point - again, I am NOT saying that autism isn't a difficulty. It can be disabling (though not always), and it can definitely be extremely hard on caregivers. I know firsthand. But painting it as a 100% problem or bad outcome instead of what it actually is - a way of being that isn't inherently bad but comes with it's own strengths and challenges - is not accurate nor is it helpful to all of us autistics who are FREQUENTLY harmed by people hating or fearing autism. Link to the survey of LOTS of autistic and non-autistic people that resulted in nonverbal autistics/autistics with learning disabilities, agree that they don't want a cure: autisticnotweird.com/2018survey/
I'm waiting to get into a psychiatrist as I think I might be on the spectrum, but I've never understood this. would people rather have a child with challenges growing up than have a dead kid or a kid with severe brain damage caused by an entirely preventable disease?
@John Monday Please read resources from actually autistic people, such as Autisticnotweird, The Thinking Person's Guide to Autism, Musings of an Aspie, and so many more. Here's a survey that specifically checked how "low functioning" autistics feel about a cure. We don't want it. autisticnotweird.com/2018survey/ I cannot explain why, so please look into others who have already articulated it. You've just told me that if people like me can be prevented, why not. Because I'm a person, I'm valid, and so is every other autistic person. You can't separate autism from the person's individuality. And if that's not good enough for you, how about because most actually autistic individuals LIKE being autistic, or at the very least love our autistic selves, including what you label as "low functioning". Listen to the people who are actually living through the lens of autism, who are actually experiencing it firsthand.
@Luna 🌵Thank you taking your time & effort to inform us, and steer us on the path to better see and understand your path in life. I hope life brings many good things your way. With your "life attitude"and your determination, I'm sure that already DOES, and will continue! Now I'm going to the link you've provided to learn more! 💖 Thanks, Luna 🌵🌺🌴🐈
@@jordanabendroth6458 🌵eh, sorry Jordon. Am not quite sure how I managed to do this. Was trying to send it to "Luna" the comment above yours. But the world is round, right? I'll GET there! Eventually! (sorry🙏)
When I was 12 I had French Toast for breakfast and came down with the Flu shortly afterwards. They are in no way related but I didn't eat French Toast for 15 years after that.
I ate chick fil-a twice and got very nauseous both times. Due to that I refused to eat chick fil-a again, after years of not eating it one day I decided to try it. Nothing happened, and I am willing to eat it again.
@@justinraphael3838 I have had that a lot. I take a medicine which makes me feel slightly sick every week, and if I eat something before I take the medicine I don't want to eat it for a really long time after that. This happens very often, and I know that it's the medicine, not the food, but for some reason I still don't want to eat it.
Well these people aren't exactly anti-science, that would be absurd to say. They are simply people with their own ideas and doubts about the legibility and safety of vaccines, and the scientists and government behind it.
***** did you even read the article you yourself linked to? it talks about specific ideas from certain branches of science being pseudo-scientific, for example "psychoanalysis"! "physics" would also be on the list, if one interpreted the article as you (wrongly) did
As an autistic person myself, I can't believe that parents would rather their child become severely sick or die than have autism. Autism is not a life-ending disease that can be spread. It's a difference in how your brain is wired, where your brain has more connections and has less ability to filter out unnecessary stimulus, along with differences in communication and perception. It doesn't ruin your life or your child's life. It simply makes your child different and people with autism can develop into successful adults. Autism simply comes with its own set of challenges that most people just don't experience.
People are like ice cream in that they come in different "flavors". So autistic people are simply a different flavor of person. As an aside. The definition of ASD has been expanded over the years. So being "autistic" does not necessarily mean a severely impaired individual as you say. 🤔
@@TiredEyes Don't internalize. Vaccine opponents mischaracterize individuals diagnosed with having ASD to infer they are severely impaired so as to scare people. I made the point that many people classified as "autistic" actually have mild deficits and lead fairly normal lives.
Most of the things they vaccinated kids for will not kill kids and their inate immune system will fight it naturally. A lot of the conditions that they vaccinated are not even that common. The common cold is common and they never came up with one for that. Starting to believe that all the vaccines that we were forced to get in childhood are responsible for all the all the aquired health conditions we suffer from today.
@@vanessawalker2656 Get back to us when you actually learn the science here. Thus far all we see are exceedingly poor assumptions premised upon obvious ignorance of said science. 🥱
I don't blame the anti-vaxxers, I blame education. As mentioned here (and pointed out extremely well graphically), humans are full of cognitive biases. We absolutely suck at collecting and analyzing and understanding data unless we systematically force ourselves to do it right. So critical thinking is a skill that must be learned...and yet we don't teach kids how to do that. At least where I went to school, I wasn't able to take any psychology, logic, or critical thinking courses until uni. That means I had 18 years in which, if I hadn't been personally interested in the subjects beforehand, I would never have learned how to think. I mean, sure, we learn the scientific method relatively early (which is great!), but we're convinced it's only something that doctors and lab techs do. Humans innately overestimate our mental abilities, and until we learn how many (many, many, many) different ways our brains lie to us, we trust ourselves more than the facts. (This is the basis for why democracy is generally considered the best form of government, though it's not...but I digress.) So really, I think we need to be teaching children about psychology and logic and critical thinking skills long before they turn 18. As in, starting at least in 6th grade, if not primary school.
I personally think the world would be a much better place if public schools required critical thinking and/or basic philosophy classes. In matter of fact im writing a persuasive speech to be presented for my debate club relatively soon.
Dylan Ost My high school does offer philosophy and psychology classes to anyone interested. However, they are not mandatory, which is sad. I personally find the thought process quite interesting.
How about this idea? Have people sign a document consenting to be placed in court for attempted murder if the childs life is put at risk for not being vaccinated.
***** Then how about listening to history. Death counts to disseases that were made practically extinct since the start of vacination. Yes there is a lot more cases of autism, but there is also a lot more cases of cancer. So are people gonna blame vaccines for that to? But i digress. I would totally agree with you, if not for one small fact. The number of studies made that proove smoking is very hazardus for to you doesnt stop women from smiking during pregnancy, nor does it stop people from smoking round pregnant women. This is something that is prooven 100% that is hazardus and people ignore it, while they are searching for reasons why not to trust something that practically decimated child mortality rate due to disseases. So sorry if i dont share your view, but people are fucking stupid. And if my kid gets put in danger because of someone elses decision you can be sure ill be waiting with a baseball bat in a dark alley. Also ever notice how practially all of this vaccines = autism debate is kinda synonamus with the US of A. The rest of the world either doesnt care, or is begging to get vaccines so their children stop dying from the flu or measles.
+Grega Meglic So which Boogeyman disease is going to kill your child? Chicken pox? That's one of the vaccines now. Many schools require it. Are you going to beat people senseless when your kid gets it? There are a few key vaccines which are VITAL (I'm looking at you, Polio), but some less so. Also, not all vaccines are equally safe. Now they failed in this video in their due diligence, as the Autism scare came about with a now debunked study linking the two. However, there have been numerous vaccines which contain mercury. The controversy led to more scrutiny and most of those mercury containing ones are off the market. Also, some children have violent allergic reactions to certain vaccines, with some vaccines being more often problematic than others. The scheduling from the CDC does not take this into account. Why is this a problem? Many vaccines require multiple rounds of dosing, and usually several different vaccines are done at once. If your child reacts horribly to one, you have no clue which when they are clustered. If you space them out so you can identify the culprit, you can forgo the next dose, or ask for it in a different form. Furthermore, most of the vaccines are for diseases which don't kill children, and are more important for adults to avoid, but adults take shit care of themselves so the medical community has decided to exploit our protectiveness over our children to attack some of these diseases. Everyone interested in not being ignorant on vaccines should should The Vaccine Book by Dr. Robert Sears. It is well researched and presented and includes information your doctor likely lacks or only vaguely remembers. It properly arms parents to make a conscious choice based on science good information rather than fear and ignorance.
Actually the CDC just admitted fraud and admitted they altered and destroyed data that contained a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. So think again. Don't be so reliant on the government and what the media tells you. Make a decision based off of real research looking at both ends of the spectrum. The vaccine industry paid out 4 billion dollars to vaccine injuries. Also when you get vaccinated they make you sign a consent so that basically you can't sue if you get seriously injured or have a reaction. That should be a red flag right there.
Ashley Evans Wait what? There is nothing of that sort over here. Basically unless its an alergic reaction that was unknown to them, the hospitals are responsible. And even if there is an alergic reaction, some heads still roll over here.
A normal anti-vaxxer life: Doctor: Would you like to vaccinate your child? Parent: Nah the disease is dead. Doctor: The disease is dead because people vaccinate themselves dammit. Parent: .... still no
Neon Starlight USA sickest children in the "free" world. Thanks vaccines these are the only first at anything we get anymore.Highest Infant mortality in the first 24 hours too highest in the developed world. There is another first we can claim. Vaxxers must be proud due to their insanity we can lead the world in medical forced deaths
Neon Starlight oh tell those who were part of the government 40 injection of syphilis into afro Americans carter ended it but you make fun of those who don't trust their government wow how sad
4:40 is the most important part of this video that almost no one commenting here chose to pay attention to. Keep insulting vaccine hesitant people, you'll only contribute more to their hesitation. The more polarized this issue becomes, the more people will abandon vaccines altogether.
That's fine, the leper colony and quarantine are excellent preventative methods that protect the general population. Anyone wanting to leave the quarantine colony is welcome to - if they can get through the minefield and interlocking fields of fire.
There is no issue, there is no polarization at all. It is like if some kids cannot say 2+2=4. ... Is there any debate between them and their teacher. No there are ignorant kids vs their teacher. To understand why these kids dont trust their teacher is the question.
@@和平和平-c4i There clearly is an issue. And you're correct that it has everything to do with trust. The point I was highlighting from the video is that you don't gain trust by insulting or even punishing. Those methods only serve to further polarize. It takes more than good science to change someone's system of beliefs. Imagine how much those kids would trust their teacher if every time they questioned whether 2+2=4, they were told they were idiots and other comments to be found on here.
Sorry you apparently have reading comprehension issues. Perhaps an ESL course might assist you with your difficulties....... - just saying. p.s. - read the description of the video........ = then look at all the source links provided to support that. The subject of the video is the science *OF THE MENTALITY BEHIND VACCINE OPPOSITION* and not vaccines per se. Thus the biases as you say which led people to fall into the trap of anti-vaccination is exactly what the video is all about.
@@eddiebarton7217 Argumentum ad nauseam = as well as a stereotypical incapacity for reading comprehension.......... Kinda sad actually. Moral: for the really-really "slow" among us. The subject of the video is not vaccine efficacy = it is the mentality behind vaccine opposition....... Enjoy your confirmation bias. I am compelled however to point out yet again it results in what we see above = a complete incapacity for your part to understand what is actually being said versus what "you think" was said......
@@varyolla435 I’m saying what should have been talked about. The video was obviously intended to appear to discuss the science behind the anti vaxx arguments, not psychology 101. The irony that you can’t see your own bias is hilarious. I am not arguing one way or the other on anything except what the premise of the video should have been. You are applying a position to me that you have no idea if I believe because your biases are causing you to assume
@@eddiebarton7217 Round and round they go = yet nothing changes....... When will you wake up to realize the video is not about = "you"........ So you disagree with its' premise = okay - so what. The channel makes videos about what they wish and not your subjective take. The video addressed the intended subject-matter = and that is all that matters here. Perhaps the only "bias" to be found here = is actually yours..... Ponder that if you will.
Vaccine's prevent specific diseases at a cost that is not fully quantified. Anti vaxxers aren’t idiots, they tend to be intelligent, well to do professionals who took time to dive into the research.
that's not the cause, but one of the outcome of collective bias. ppl get together in forums and social media who share opinions in numbers, which reinforces their convictions that they are "right" and science is "wrong" or misleading. Just take a look at the flat earth society lol. Another contributing factor is the conspiracy mechanism: the more it proves the conspiracy wrong, the more conspiracy theorists brand it as "planted" and thus turn it around as proof for the conspiracy itself... (Like flat earthers interpret pictures of the moon landing as fake, thus planted, thus proof for NASA being the evil society that withholds the truth from them.) Some ppl can get very lost in such things unfortunately. And the internet is making it just so much easier for them.
@@DrCatdeJong you don't have to be sorry, since you don't even have an arguement. So whatever your intervention is supposed to refer to, is nothing that affects the line of reasoning at all. It's like someone coughing during a theatre performance. You register it and move on.
Another possible reason cases of autism have been going up since whatever year is that we've recently started accepting things on the spectrum of autism that weren't considered anything but quirky or odd before- more people are getting diagnosed because our parameters for diagnosing them are changing to include more people. This happens/has happened with all psychological disorders, and with some physical ones too.
My maternal family tree implies there have been at least four or five generations with autism in some of the branches, and as several of them were farmers it wasn't something that worked against them... So they were seen as just "quirky" at most. The changeling myths were based on children with age "triggered" issues, including autism. Because while a professional can usually identify autism in children when they are still less than a year old, laymen don't realize something is really off until around 3-5 years old when the child may even seriously regress in developing. Living in the medieval ages and your child appearing to suddenly change in personality was probably all sorts of terrifying and inexplicable, and assuming they were replaced wasn't farfetched with their knowledge.
My mom is a doctor and she actually really didn't like the idea of having me vaccinated for some ancient disease and have a terrible fever from the vaccine after words for a week. But vaccination is mandatory in China so I had to do them all. It was a pain even from as little as I remember. So it really is just a balance of what is reasonable, and how to communicate it reasonably.
Anti Vaxxer "logic"(the lack thereof)101 Doctor,goes through atleast Nine years of medical school:untrustworthy A conspiracy nut,dropped out of high school:trustworthy
+Sotiris Krol Doctors used to say that cigarettes were safe. There were even ads saying that the #1 cigarette choice of doctors was Camel! It doesn't take a genius to figure out that inhaling smoke can't be good (just like it doesn't take a genius to figure out that aluminum and mercury injections can't be good), but people still went along with it... Newsflash... the government doesn't give a damn about people and cannot be trusted. "Has your loved one DIED from taking this (FDA approved) drug?" ...sound familiar?? Does anyone know what a third party study is?
The cigarette idea is redundant, scientists have advanced and are on going in research but vaccines have been proven to create memory T cells that remember the bad illness and the next time you come in contact with them you are immune, this has been throughly search medical professionals and scientist know what there talking about
+Olivia Reilly Why? Was something in that comment untrue? I'm amused by your belief that a private corporation actually cares about your best interests.
@@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones in my country more than 500 million people took the vaccine.So don't feel like a lab rat.My whole family is also fully vaccinated(including me).One of my mother's colleague who suffered from multiple medical complications is still alive after covid because of vaccine.
@nikon12x42 they don't. There is a very small chance of that happening. If the bridge is 95% sturdy, are you going to swim because it will break? There's a small chance, better than if you don't and get eaten by what's in the water. Think on that.
nikon12x42 no it doesn’t Jesus stop just stop feckin actually do real research actually never mind people like you can help with population control let the measles back I say get rid of some of the poor innocent children
I was shocked when I found out that one of my friends hadn't been vaccinated for Covid - and wasn't going to be, because she "didn't trust the government". Later, she told me that she knew the Earth was flat "because I've walked on it and it FEELS flat." (I should say ex-friend, not friend.)
The basic problems are two-fold. 2-people fear what they do not understand. 2-most people need an explanation that frees them from blame. Arguing with them is pointless.
In essence yes. In matters of infectious diseases for which we are their hosts = cause & effect exists. In other words the infectious diseases exist and hence they will unless mitigated by a response by us cause an adverse impact. Thus our actions - or inactions - drive what follows. Anti-vaxxers contribute to the spread of - and hence the adverse impact of - infectious diseases in society. Their whinging about this or that to try to justify why they do so is as you alluded to = a rationalization for their part to try to abrogate their responsibility in contributing to that adverse societal impact.
This makes sense. My parents would always blame videos games whenever something bad would happen to me. My parents had clear cognitive biased against video games
If there are vary rare occurrences of a disease from vax, you can not say vax doesn't cause disease. That particular disease. Could you then extrapolate?
Here is your free nickel lesson in infectious disease immunology: 1 - most vaccines today are "recombinant" ones. That means they use either pieces of a virus or else innocuous "vectors" which have been modified to manifest the antigenic parts of the real pathogen the virus works against. It is therefore impossible for these to give you the illness. A piece of a virus can not give you the illness. 2 - among the rest you have 2 types: a - "inactivated" vaccines. These use a dead version of the pathogen and once again a dead virus can not make you sick. b - "attenuated" vaccines. These use weakened versions of the pathogen in question. Yet because it is weakened the chances of it regaining "virulence" are infinitesimal. Moral: it is "theoretically possible" for attenuated vaccines to give you the infectious disease in question. The odds of that happening however are extremely low and require the immune system of the individual to be weak as well so as to allow the weakened pathogen to regain virulence. Yet attenuated vaccines are increasingly rare these days save for a few older ones developed long ago which still are used because they work. The old oral Polio vaccine as an example can "possibly" cause a person to develop a milder form of Polio if as noted their immune system is soooo weak it can not defeat the attenuated virus. The odds of such occurring however are literally in the millions of doses to one.
*_The truth as it relates to conscious life has been revealed._* For the first time in our history we have progressed and evolved enough to know and understand the big picture truth of life. We have come a long long way but have a little further to go. We have progressed further materially and in knowledge then ever before but it is also the time we are most asleep. People do not like the truth and do everything they do to avoid the truth. Living in denial is the nature of mankind but in order for us to progress we need to learn and acknowledge the truth that the evidence says is true. Google *_Truth Contest_* and read the top entry.
Right. Let's go with the politicians instead of independent scientists. The politicians never sell their votes to the highest bidder and always have our best interests at heart. Let's don't question their wisdom. We know for a fact that Big Pharma operates from the goodness of their hearts and are the first in line to get their babies vaccinated. Be smart and ignore the opposing views of renegade researchers and trouble-making doctors and nurses, since obviously they are just useful idiots for Putin, or whoever is orchestrating the anti-vax movement. Have you had your flu shot yet?
EVEN IF vaccines caused autism, I'd rather my child be autistic than crippled by polio or permanently scarred by smallpox or dead from measles so 🤷🏻♀️
Every medical intervention carries risks, even vaccines. The question is which risk we rather face: - contracting a (preventable) disease with all its consequences and the possibility of exposing others or - the off-chance you're unlucky and have major side effects from a vaccination (an allergic reaction for example, not autism) I do know which risk I rather take, and it's currently in my upper left arm.
Most of my family is anti vax. My mother started looking for reasons for my sisters cerebral palsy. She found numbers people put together and then instilled those ideas in her kid and in-laws. I do not have enough privilege to go down that road as I became type 1 diabetics at 7 so for me it was accept science or die a torturous death over a period of a couple months. I personally feel anti gazers fit in well with capitalist values. Other people take the risks for the good if humanity while they reap the rewards of said risks/actions
Interesting perspective on this, Hank. It explains my problems in trying to debunk anti-vaccination viewpoints in family and friends. Some are problems on their part, and some are on mine. When someone doesn’t listen to a fact-based argument, I often resort to ridicule or other dismissive behavior. It’s frustrating, and at least part of the problem is my fault.
You do know that there are those who were never against vaccines before that have concerns about this newest one and that many of those concerns are quite legitimate, right?
Good on you for recognizing your flaws. None of us are perfect but sometimes it can be hard to accept in situations where you're ultimately the one who's right, even if the other person doesn't agree. Also it's awesome that you're speaking up and trying to help others around you better understand vaccines and how important they are.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 He never said anything about any of the COVID vaccines in his comment. I understand having concerns about new vaccines, but not every argument for the importance and efficacy of vaccines is specifically arguing for the COVID vaccines that are currently available.
We all do this. You and I both have beliefs that are wrong and we would go to the grave fighting for. The real frustration with anti-vaxxers, for me, is the fact that they are endangering the lives of others including their own children. Most of the time our false believes pose no real threat beyond maybe a family fight. However, anti-vaxxers are a danger to us all because they threaten herd immunity. Sadly, as this video points out, it is almost impossible to change their minds. My biggest fear is that we are 10-20 years away from seeing the return of some horrible diseases in first world countries. We'll see a lot of death but people will probably start vaccinating again. However, the real problem will be those in 3rd world countries that will also see major outbreaks due to us first world folks and they wont have immediate vaccinations available.... thus millions will die.
5:50 If a parent will vaccinate their child if not vaccinating is at least twice as dangerous, there should be no problem, since not vaccinating is typically at least hundreds of times more dangerous than vaccinating. The problem has to be that many don't perceive the risks that way, grossly overestimating the risk of vaccination and underestimating the risk of catching the disease, or completely ignoring the risk of getting sick and not seeing it as their fault, but as nature having its course, as explained later in the video.
The argument for the connection to autism is often the parent noticing a sharp change in their child's behavior within minutes or hours after getting their shots. I think rather than mocking them (they know their child better than anyone), it would be worth looking into instead of just presupposition science has nothing to say about it. Maybe the use of science could help figure it out.
They know their child better than anyone, sure I'll give you that. But they don't know neuropsychology, immunology, cell biology, and the plethora of other relevant subjects better than doctors. Not every anecdote is worth extensive investigation.
If someone has vaccine hesitancy, learning about all these failures of human cognition and inbuilt biases, may make the person fall into inaction as they may feel that if they can't trust their own reasoning or gut feeling, then they may also conclude that they should simply refrain from getting their kids vaccinated at all. It's a real problem. I find if one askes the question: What evidence would you need to change your mind on your vaccine position? Effectively asking what would falsify their position - can be useful to uncover what's really concerning them.
What if this video was a "bias"? It doesn't hurt to search things up on your own, Skepticism is a sign of intelligence... Although I wouldn't recommend listening to people without sources, So if you're making a claim against vaccinations without any proof or evidence nobody should listen to you.
Jean-Dominic Lapointe It means not to believe something until proven otherwise, It is a sign that you aren't just a gullible sheep who'll just believe anything he's told. I'm not saying vaccines cause autism, I saw the sources, I'm just defending skepticism.
Here from India. Hoping that more literacy rate makes people make more logical decisions in general. Seeing the western world falling for conspiracy theories on such basic topic is actually weird.
Sai Manoj Kumar Yadlapati living in the USA and directly growing up/watching these last generations of society makes it seem less weird to me. That is because I've witnessed almost the entirety of people not having to actually worry about much of anything. The instant gratification decades. Being spoon fed from childhood to adulthood on whatever triggers a pleasant emotional response, while constantly being conditioned by every type of advertisement that's ever been conceived. It's basically spoiled brat syndrome. Education isn't highly regarded, it is quite possible to function, unrestricted, on the most basic levels of intelligence....it's a recipe for disaster.
I agree with Resinpro, and would add that the recent worldwide lockdown has given lots of people lots of time to hang around on youtube or facebook, being exposed to all sorts of total rubbish. Unfortunately, literacy isn't enough to educate: people must learn how to analyse critically. They seem to think that just because they can't trust mainstream media, that alternative medias are necessarily trustworthy. It shows up the flaws in the education system, but it also shows that we are now suffering the results of many years of lies and propaganda from our governments. Separating government lies from conspiracy theories is important: too many people seem to think that they can talk about alien lizardmen and conflict of interest in scientific studies in the same breath.The one sort of discredits the other. This means that the real problems risk to go unnoticed, drowned in a sea of unsubstantiated paranoia. Of course governments and industry lie to us sometimes. Doesn't mean they're aliens! Take Bill Gates for example: it seems like youtube is saturated with people posting videos or commenting about how he's the anitchrist, poisoning children for satanic purposes..... (all this on a computer running with Windows!), yet they don't even bother mentioning reasonable doubts, such as his investments. Most sane people agree that vaccines are globally (sorry flat-earthers) effective, but we're pretty uneasy about how the money gets generated.... I think it does all boil down to a state of mind in these people: it's a bit like believing in fairies. We like to have a sort of romantic mysticism round some subjects (how many still believe in the Loch Ness Monster even though all the videos and "proof" have been debunked, sometimes even by their perpetrators for years?) and refuse to listen to evidence to the contrary.
in my 5th grade of elementary getting vaccinated was mandatory before going to middle school. does that mean anti-vax children never make it past elementary?
An unvaccinated child can go to school in most states with an exemption. If there is ever an outbreak of any disease that is preventable by vaccines then the child has to be kept at home until no cases are active in the county or state
me I physically can not have live vaccines (Google it) my immune system is not strong enough I will get the disease that i'm trying to protect myself from this coming from a my doctor but if every one got vaccinated I would not have to worry about stuff like the chicken pox (and more stuff don't forget about the deadly things) 😃 so plz get vaccinated
+Mcakkeezz Not sure of the science of it, but my mom has this too. Natural immunity, give her the vaccine and she gets it, don't give it to her and she never gets it.
I think you are completely misunderstanding how a vaccine works. And there is no way that you would know if the vaccine is really the cause of getting sick. Correlation doesn't mean causation
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17300950 - Reconsideration for safe levels of aluminum. Here you’ll find pediatric doses of aluminum in vaccines being called into question for further study. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21568886/ - “...There is also a concerning scarcity of data on toxicology...” as exemplified by this small quote this paper is about lack of data pertaining to aluminum adjuvants. www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD012805/full - Adjuvants method of delivery, bioavailability etc... www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/aluminum - article that makes ingestion appear to be as safe as injection aacijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13223-018-0305-2 - deeper dive into medical literature on aluminum injections and human body reactions www.researchgate.net/publication/221738389_Mechanisms_of_aluminum_adjuvant_toxicity_and_autoimmunity_in_pediatric_populations mechanisms of aluminum adjuvants www.google.com/amp/s/health.usnews.com/conditions/alzheimers/articles/is-there-a-connection-between-aluminum-and-alzheimers-disease%3fcontext=amp - Alzheimer’s and aluminum podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-vaccine-conversation-with-melissa-and-dr-bob/id1492951084?i=1000464778456 - podcast on vaccines and aluminum www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4208573/ - China and vaccines www.fairwarning.org/2018/12/vaccine-court-pays-billions/ - Vaccine court www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_rate_is_the_aluminium_adjuvant_absorbed_from_vaccine_into_the_bloodstream another look at aluminum in the blood www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780124080850000054 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782734/ sciblogs.co.nz/diplomaticimmunity/2017/02/20/gardasil-vaccine-compared-placebo/ - aluminum used as placebo support.vaxcalc.org/article/59-is-4925-mcg-of-aluminum-by-age-18-months-too-much
Your teacher is very uneducated watch this video it proves that vaccines cause autism m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--JiA_5Uu4Rc.html
There’s quite a difference between provable science and theory-crafted science, that latter is pushed as truth many time without a shred of Actual evidence... evolution for example. Yet millions believe it... and it doesn’t matter how many believe it to be true, because it is factually false and proven so, many times over.
rick johnson and where did I claim that it wasn't complex? Science theory doesn't automatically equal science fact, yet so many push it as such. That's my point.
Vaccinating is are more experimental and risky than not vaccinating.. why not just make your immune system strong through other ways, such as healthy lifestyle, alchemy, and consciousness exploration..!
"Vaccinating is are more experimental and risky than not vaccinating" No it's not, and you would know this if you spent 2 seconds googling the statistics for how many people die from vaccines vs. how many people died from vaccine preventable illnesses. "why not just make your immune system strong through other ways, such as healthy lifestyle" Because these things will not protect a baby, elderly person, or sick person from contracting a potentially lethal virus. Oh, and vaccines prepare your immune system for viruses better than any amount of exercise and healthy living. "alchemy, and consciousness exploration" Are you trolling?
This just doesn't make any sense at all. Vaccines are a weakened version of a virus that makes your immune system create memory B and T cells (which are a type of lymphocytes, which are a type of leukocyte) so that later of you're ever exposed to the real virus, you're immune system will recognize it and send B cells and T cells to kill it before it creates reproduces and makes you sick. Exercising and eating healthy will not make your immune system produce memory B and T cells. These type of cells are only produced when the antigen of a virus is identified and recognized by the immune system, and exercise will not expose these antigens to your body. Exercising and eating healthy are great ways to be healthy, but they will not make you immune to any disease simply because exercising won't make your immune system produce memory B and T cells.
Brainwashed people. The actual science shows that unvaccinated children are healthier than vaccinated children. Hygiene and better living conditions overall were the reason these diseases went away...not because of vaccines. Vaccines are only making us sicker and causing more sickness and deaths. Snake oil sellers know how to sell their shit. Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.
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Those people think they are better with a dead child than with an autistic child...
I am autistic. My mother got angry as fudge because I got him vaccinated. While some kids have had reactions, some very severe, but that’s a risk with ANY medical procedures. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
no mention of how quality controls affect out comes, no mention of the studies that indicate negative affects. no mention of fiscal responsibility and its effect on quality controls. At best missing lots of factors at worst it was intentional. Not much better than a marketing campaign
@@jackjohnson4386 That would expose how little they actually know and undermine their supposed argument............ Vaccine opponents invariably exist in an imaginary world of "innuendo" = not science nor facts.
Yeah don’t trust ANY vaccines. Research, look at blackballed scientists and medical experts that lost their career just to side with truth! Or be cattle 🐄 😂 www.icandecide.org/white-papers/
I accidentally healed most of my chronic conditions. Two weeks after switching to organics, to save the bees, my body started healing. Fibromyalgia, asthma, tummy issues, all started clearing after 2 weeks. Before it hurt to move everything, it hurt to even turn a doorknob. All inflammation and pain is gone. Ulcers and acid reflux, gone. Gluten and dairy intolerance, gone. IBS, gone. Food cravings and extra weight went away too. If you look at video of healthy groups of Americans prior to the 80s and after, there is a huge difference. The FDA has allowed some chemicals and poisons in certain amounts in the mid 80s. I can tell it is hurting us just by watching the videos. It was confirmed by my body. Keep your chemicals. I will try to stay as natural as possible.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a specific food causing flare ups of chronic illnesses. I experienced something similar, but it had nothing to do with organic food, and everything to do with me having a hyperresponsive immune system.
"parents who think about vaccines are less likely to vaccinate their children" Oh that's it! We figured it out guys! That's what we have to stop. Just stop people from thinking!! We need more people to just accept what the experts say and not ask questions! 🥰🥰
The key word here of course = "thinking". Yet to think about a thing one must first = understand what one ponders..........which anti-vaxxers do not. Moral of the story: if vaccine opponents want to think about something = let them ponder Dunning-Kruger Effect. After all being a graduate of the "University" of Fakebook/Instagarbage/Twit-R...... = *IS NOT* synonymous with understanding of what are esoteric topics. It rather becomes little more than an exercise in ignorance-based *REACTION* to things they do not actually understand. We have experts in the areas of science and medicine for a reason as it takes years to master such skills and understanding. Simple things for simple minds. 🤣
LuigiFan okay but have you heard of the news ? Anti-vaxxers have already caused epidemics in certain places !!!!! and people who cannot get vaccines due to weak immune system or age (too young), are in danger ! so they are a threat and honestly something needs to be done imo
I hold the belief that when it comes to dangers to public health for not only one child, but all who interact with that child and all who could potentially be impacted by the spread of dangerous pathogens as a result of not taking action to prevent them, the government and the military should step in. People need to be forced to be vaccinated (of course, with the exception of people with conditions that ACTUALLY could be harmed as proven by ACTUAL science). It simply isn’t fair that some people ruin things for others and their own child by refusing to boost their immune systems. The only side effect of vaccines… is less dead people. Sounds good to me.
I was hoping you would go into the scientific evidence of vaccines working. This was informative, but it kind of fuels the flame to antivaxers unfortunately. You only talked about the psychology of the decision making rather than the science of vaccination.
But explaining the science of vaccines would kind of have the same effect too ig since people (due to these biases) tend to ignore multiple types of evidence that contradict their current beliefs, usually until someone they actually trust tells them the same information. Not saying that the science behind vaccines working isn't interesting or worth putting out a video for, but the point of this video was to put the anti-vax movement into perspective of people who support vaccines. At least that's what I thought the video was for lol.
afreshcoatofpaint SMALLPOX: has a 30% death rate.Last case in USA was in 1949.Intense vaccination campaigns in 1960’s and 1970’s.Last case in the WORLD 1977.I believe it’s the first disease to be totally eradicated by vaccination.Read life history of Edward Jenner.
@@mikehutchison4892 Yes, I know that the information is out there. My point was more that videos like this could turn antivaxers away from actually learning the truth. Imagine if you believed a conspiracy theory, but every time you brought up your reasons for why you think it is true, you are met with a scoff and an analysis of your psychological condition rather than arguments against your theory. I think that the type of smug 'I won't even lower myself to address such nonsense' attitude that people have towards issues like flat earth or antivaxers only keeps them going. Rather than thinking ourselves higher than or better than for believing something that we "know" to be true, we should take a serious look at our own epistomology and rationale for why we believe certain things to be true. Giving reasons why the earth is spherical is not stooping low but rather it is helping someone who was misinformed to possibly change their mind and solidifying your belief in the process. Anyway, that's just my thought on it. I am a firm believer in vaccines because there is clinical evidence to show that they work, there are several Google scholar papers about unvaccinated children getting diagnosed with autism proving that vaccines DO NOT cause autism, and the concept of vaccination makes sense given how the human immune system works.
afreshcoatofpaint what makes you think Christian intivaxers will ever change their mind especially with the alarming information about aborted fetal cells being used. The facts are clear to me that you have no idea what long term damage is done in SOME people by vaccination. There could be some would be Michael Jordan’s that lose athletic ability, or a young Einstein that is negatively effected in their brain. When I look at the ingredient list in some of these cocktails, I don’t need your science. I’m going to trust God to give life or take it away. 👊🏻
I ws given the MMR and Polio and DPT vaccines before I was old enough to be able to object, and because of those vaccines, I lived long enough to need COVID vaccinations.
Sadly studying a subject does not always result in = understanding what you study. I have seen many times over the past decades people who worked in a given field = yet their understanding was to be polite "limited". Call it "grade inflation" - or willful stupidity = it does not matter as the end result is the same. Simple things for simple minds I guess. It is sad really. p.s. - not to dis "youth" as I was once young myself. 🙃 What you learn - or not - in college is merely the beginning. It often takes years of actual experience for subjects to fully "flesh out" and an individual to really develop the critical thinking skills to apply what they once learned. Some as the old saying goes know "just enough to be dangerous". lol!
Autistic person here- I just gotta say that the fact that parents would rather their child/children suffer and/or die from a preventable illness than have autism is very sad. Vaccines don't cause autism, but these people believe they do, and they still choose preventable illness. Autism is not a horrible thing, autistic people are just as valuable and worthy as any other human. I know this video is old, but it's still very relavant and the misinformation surrounding both vaccines and autism is terrifying.
I agree. It’s also frustrating as a parent when people com at us from three sides of “your child has a speech delay because of you” and “your child is like this because you vaccinated them” and them “well we don’t know why she’s not talking but we’ll say autism for now”. Grouping diagnoses together as a best guess is damaging too. But by no means is that making me not vaccinate my kid. I’ll love her no matter what. But we shouldn’t need a diagnoses for early interventions. Everyone neurotypical or neurodivergent deserve help. I hope your parents support you as you are 🥰
I definitely agree with that on an individual basis, but in terms of society, if there IS something responsible for higher rates of autism (not vaccines, obviously), then it's probably best to do something about it, since I'm not sure how well society as a whole would function if everyone was autistic... Not that there is anything wrong with it, but just that if everyone was that way, it might make things more difficult. As far as I am aware, I am not on the current autism spectrum, but I'm also not "neurotypical" considering that I do have ADHD and OCD, and I can only imagine how dysfunctional society would be if none of us could concentrate on anything or go a day without obsessive anxiety, where even the medication to offset one of them worsens the symptoms of the other... It's a source of suffering for me personally, and if I could choose to have a "normal" brain, then I would rather just do that. But, unfortunately, it's not a choice.
I'm on the spectrum and it doesn't feel like a disability to me. I realize I'm "different" but I honestly dont care what people think. This was a good video. Luvzya Hank 😘
same, i'd rather have some issues communicating and be more sensitive to sound than most people than die of a preventable disease. i'm aware that it's a spectrum and that many people on different parts of it have a harder time dealing with the way the world is than i do, but i think a lot of people forget that a considerable amount of autistic people are not that incredibly different from them and that it's better to become more understanding of different ways people's minds can work than to bring polio back.
@@mrdirtslife2688 both is sometimes the answer. Yes, it is foolish to judge a fish by how well it climbs trees, however you can be differently able and still disabled at the same time from autism. I say this as a "high functioning" autist that can mask relatively well, but sometimes the autism directly prevents you from things even when judged by the standards of being differently able. Which is why the label high functioning feels insufficient, but yeah. Fun fact, according to a study autists on average are far likely to actually adhere to their moral code at all times, while neurotypical people are more likely to break their moral code if it gives them advantages and nobody will know they did it. We are basically don't arrogantly think of ourselves as some special magical exception to the rules but actually understand the consequences.
Same! There are always going to be struggles but I wouldn’t trade my brain for a neurotypical one ever. The struggles have never even come close to outweighing the good 💖
@@buildawall5803 There was a story some time ago on Reddit from some tattooist who had an Asperger's sufferer come in and want a picture of a hamburger tattooed to his butt cheek. It was a...unique request, to say the least, and the tattooist was reluctant, and finally said that the guy should wait one year, and if he felt as strongly one year from that date as he did right then, then they'd happily do his tattoo for him. Sure enough, one year later, the guy came strolling back in, got his tattoo, and walked out pleased as punch.
My dad had an autoimmune reaction to a vaccine given by the military that made him unable to continue working, or even walk up and down stairs or stay standing for long periods of time (it's better now, since there are newer medicines that control his symptoms with fewer side effects). It turns out they had given him and the other people on the base much higher doses and with far shorter intervals between shots than is recommended. So I have a legitimate reason to be cautious of vaccines. And you know what? Even with that my whole family keeps up to date on our vaccines, because we know that what happened to my dad wasn't the fault of vaccine, it was doctors trying to rush things and breaking protocols that are in place for a reason. I have no sympathy for people who claim that vaccines are bad for people because a TV celebrity told them so. I don't let them off the hook with the excuse that they are just ignorant. They are willfully ignoring tremendous amounts of data that almost irrefutably prove them wrong, and they put their lives, their children's lives, and everyone else's lives at risk because of it.
Your dad's autoimmune reaction is even more of a reason for others to get their vaccines. With more people vaccinated, people who can't vaccines for whatever will be at less risk in their community.
As a high functioning autistic individual, it feels offensive sometimes when people view autism developing in their child as the end of the world. As far as I understand the data, the vast majority of people with the disorder are high enough functioning to learn to adapt to the outside world, it just generally takes some therapy to get there sometimes.
@@rugrat1235 autism is a spectrum. There a people with it that you may not realize have it, and there people who have it real bad and can't talk aswell as other problems, and there is every in between.
There are primarily two types of well known autisms...ASD, as talked about in the video, and Asperger Syndrome, a high functioning version which is the version I can only assume you're speaking of, usually Aspergers would simply be played off as someone being incredibly coy or introverted, and while that may be true, that's all it ever was before newer ways of diagnosing Autism came about, hence why there seemingly is a rise in autism rates. I know this since I had dealt with this to a lesser extent, I'm borderline Aspergers and I'd just like to say I share your frustration..
As someone who regularly interacts with autistic children, sometimes we need to learn to adapt to autistic people as well. They're generally rather sweet, nice people they just play by a different set of rules so to speak.
Ulrichthedragonslyer i think that Page understand the problem but the main poster who has autism does not understand how extreme many cases are. Having daily seizure multiple times a day, smearing feces on walls and body, no ability to talk, or walk, or communicate, attacking people in rage, being awake all night and sleeping during the day, no ability to take care of themselves on the most basic level are all quite common conditions to name just a few.
If that "armor" involves you sucking down every vaccine and pharmaceutical the paid for doctors and scientists push your way, don't count on living a long and productive life.
And you would be correct. That WOULD be terrifying. But the problem isn't in perceiving the threat as terrifying. The problem is in perceiving the threat as REAL. Since no one alive has ever seen one we all perceive the threat as a myth. Just a many do with measles and polio and smallpox. How bad could a world war with a genocidal despot really be??
Anti vaxxers. Saldy, being anti-vaccine isn't only bad for the individual, it's bad for the population, so, anti-vaxxers are more likely to die but they're gonna take millions of people with them.
Doctor: Would you like to get ur child vaccinated? Mom: nah they cause autism *3 weeks later* *at little jimmys funeral* Mom: Welp at least my child didn’t have autism!
I’m pretty sure I’ve read that they used to leave “changing” children in the woods to die. And that this was even encouraged by people as “prestigious” as Martin Luther
We need to teach kids how to find, read, and understand credible sources from all different media: websites, news publications, academic journals, etc.
Thomas Edison said this about thinking. "5% of the people think; 10% of the people think they think; and the other 85% would rather die than think." I would amend it to 5% of the people think, and the other 85% haven't a clue how to think, and even if they did, they wouldn't do it.
Anti vaxxer: I'm not going to vaccinate my children! (Insert argument for why) Doctor: Well, you don't have to vaccinate your children, you only need to vaccinate the ones you want to keep.
Well. That’s cuz you’re smart enough to understand. We need to trust the scientists. They saved us from those that told us to trust the church, so we gotta trust them. Especially the soft science of psychology. They need trust now more than ever. Keep it science comrade.
@@-astrangerontheinternet6687 I know what you're saying, but the whole point of science is not to trust individual scientists, but to have confidence in the system of science as a whole....
joe public I found khan university videos on this topic. In those videos, Wakefield’s argument is broken down, precisely what he claimed and found through his study. The second video about why he’s wrong. Sharing that sort of information arms someone who arguing with a family member about whether to vaccinate. After watching this video, all a person could do in that situation is shake their head at how dumb their family is being. If someone were on the fence and watched this video, two options. The person is weak minded and decides to trust science, or the person is strong minded and distrust poor arguments so they don’t vaccinate. This is a disservice to humanity. Total misrepresentation of science. Pure psy-ops.
@@-astrangerontheinternet6687 It's not really about being smart or not Just as you may think you are smart for "understanding" something, someone who is Anti Vax may think they are smart for believing in their arguments or someone else's We should be worrying more about what is actually important than about calling out/praising who is right or who is smart, because we all might be much more (or less) biased than we realize In other words, worrying about how to prevent or deal with autism and whether vaccines are actually beneficial or not, in evidence Whether we "believe" or think we "understand" something, whether that is believing that vaccines are harmful or understanding they're necessary, doesn't really matter in the longrun
Oh yes the naturalness bias. Because if it came straight from the earth it must be healthy right? On that note I have stopped drinking Mountain Dew and have switched to crude oil because that comes from the earth; it is natural.
@@Based-wn9jg funny thing is, there is something natural, one of the if not, the most deadly 'living' things on the planet that if we consume if healthy for us, though it's not a virus it's close to one ya might say.
I will stop eating hot dogs and replace them with RAW ONIONS! They are plant based so they must be perfectly healthy and there cannot be any problems with eating onions raw.
Rhys Logan I also have stopped drinking Pepsi in place of turpentine because it comes from the distillation of pine tree resin, which is all natural. I also eat raw meat now because I’m all natural and I’m a mammal, and other mammals eat their meat raw.
You don't know what an essential oil is. Examples of the compounds present in common plant's volatile oil fraction include: Carvacrol, Thymol, Eugenol, Linalool. Don't believe everything you hear just because everyone around you says it.
Des Troya I've seen your comments. Correlation =/= Causation. Most of the time, Autism can be diagnosed after a child was supposed to get a lot of vaccines, which is why people think that vaccines cause autism. They later search it up, find the first google result to confirm it, and then proceed to think that vaccines cause Autism. This does not apply for every anti-vaxxer, of course. I have Autism myself, and I find it extremely insulting that one would choose possible death over Autism.
Same. I have ASD and when it is considered something so horrible and terrible it frustrates me. I live with it everyday and would prefer it a thousand times over to any disease I could get from not being vaccinated.
