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The Truth About Banjo History 

Clifton Hicks
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Clifton Hicks on the banjo's surprising popularity before 1800, plus Old Leatherstocking, Joe Sweeney, and the rise of blackface minstrelsy.
The earliest accounts of what can be positively identified as a "banjo" come from the Caribbean during the 17th century. Recent organological studies of early gourd banjos indicate that they are a hybrid instrument, borrowing heavily from both African and European lutes.* By 1740 the gourd banjo had spread across the east coast of what would become the United States, and by 1780 it occupied a central role in both black and white folk culture--especially in the South. However, it wasn't until the 1830s that blackface minstrels began utilizing it on the commercial stage, and this happened mostly in the urban North. In the South, banjo culture remained relatively uncommercialized until after the American Civil War.
* Banjo Roots and Branches (ed. Winans, 2018)
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@dblev2019
@dblev2019 3 месяца назад
Could you direct me to where I can find and read the accounts of the slaves use of the banjo in the 18th century. I would like to get more clarity on the topic.
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 месяца назад
The best book on the subject is _Banjo_ _Roots_ _and_ _Branches_ by Dena Epstein. You might also watch my short documentary "Introduction to Early Banjo History" here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SClwUgvcZEo.htmlsi=n8Ij9DtpcdyAuwGn
@Bigger_boot
@Bigger_boot 3 года назад
Some say if you leave deer guts outside your house , you will hear a song played by old leather stocking , with the deer guts being gone by morning.
@jacobdiejude124
@jacobdiejude124 3 года назад
That would be cool
@ronaldwellman4046
@ronaldwellman4046 3 года назад
@@jacobdiejude124 would be cool and kinda eerie lol
@TimeTravelinHendrix
@TimeTravelinHendrix 3 года назад
Can confirm. My deer guts are gone. Left them out last night and heard a dark tune.
@allenhughes60
@allenhughes60 3 года назад
That short clip of leatherstocking was hilarious 😂
@librandy77
@librandy77 3 года назад
I listen to your explanations of Banjo history a lot. For me you are the best source for this subject and your tutorials are brilliant.. Thanks man.
@NyanCatHerder
@NyanCatHerder 3 года назад
Listening to this as someone with a degree in history, I like his use and interpretation of primary sources. He not only notes how early the first references were, but the significance of the fact that the authors felt no need to explain what they were talking about. That's always significant, because it captures the fact that something was so widespread that no reasonably aware person would have any questions about what a frankly pretty unusual term means ("banjo" is a term that sounds unlikely to be native to the English language). It means something isn't new, and without seeing a transition period where people *did* feel the need to clarify, it means that it became common quietly and without deliberate adoption. Which, with something like the banjo, makes sense. It's not so unusual that it would have ever felt like a bizarre novelty, but it can be used to produce a unique and recognizable sound that people enjoyed just as much in the 18th and 19th centuries as we do today. Unfortunately, prejudice (against Black musicians at first, and against poor artists from Appalachia even now) has delayed its acceptance by "high society". People are only now, and only to a limited extent, coming to embrace the idea than an instrument popular for centuries can be used to produce complex, beautiful, and even haunting musical arrangements. I feel like distribution through online channels is helping in that process, since it can bypass traditional gate keepers like record labels and radio stations, to reach people directly with music that doesn't play into the stereotype of what banjo playing "should" be.
@bryanlentz7160
@bryanlentz7160 11 месяцев назад
I started playing the banjo a couple years ago, and I try to learn all I can. While there are many good sources, Clifton is one of, if not, the best!
@m3vm3
@m3vm3 Год назад
My family were early Carolina and Virginia African Americans. Im trying to learn more about the banjo. Thankful for your videos!
@victoriarotramel2274
@victoriarotramel2274 3 года назад
The American Banjo Museum in Oklahoma City has some incredible banjos from the late 1790s you can see. It's an incredible learning experience I would highly recommend!
@lairdkilbarchan
@lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад
Wherever I go I'm on the hunt for musical gems. I bought a couple of instruments in West Africa that seem to be the banjo's long lost cousins. One is called a "gimbri", a large camel-skinned fretless instrument with gut strings played by the Gnawa people. It's played it in a kind of frailing style, forefinger and thumb, with plenty of hammer-ons. I also picked up a 5 string "sintir" in Morocco, which I immediately tuned it to open (something?) and played a rendition of "Old Joe Clarke" much to the amusement of the aged, dusty storekeeper. It's certainly not too much of a stretch of imagination that the ability to make these instruments travelled and gradually developed with the people from that part of the world as the materials would have been readily available anywhere at the time. Well, apart from the camel skin, I guess :)
@theoldkid5725
@theoldkid5725 3 года назад
That is what I always thought, african roots are so obvious(besides all other native storytelling ,from all over the world!)almost disappeared in one way to use it( which I never was interested in ) and is still soo present in the other way(which I love).Whole wide World...
@j.reu.s9540
@j.reu.s9540 3 года назад
For sure, the first time I saw a Gnawa band playing I thought ... wow, that looks a lot like clawhammer banjo playing from the United States. There's a lot of reason to suspect that banjo-like instrument designs (stringed lutes with a stretched skin head) came into West Africa from Arabic traders in the north. In coastal areas like Ghana and Nigeria most of the really traditional music focuses around different kinds of drums and polyrhythmic music, but as you go farther north into the Sahel region (for example, Mali, but also north Ghana) where the Arabic/Islamic influence is much stronger, you start to see a bigger diversity of skin-head stringed instruments. For sure some of the earliest lutes came out of north/northeast Africa, Iran, Turkey, etc.. that then came to influence Southern Europe and Sub-Saharan Africa.. I've even seen some Egyptian art with images of banjo-looking instruments.
@daisbumflea9070
@daisbumflea9070 2 года назад
I'm glad to have read this! It's awesome you're clearly interested in the instruments origins and have a passion for it
@mayorjoshua
@mayorjoshua 2 года назад
The Gnawa people are descendants of enslaved West Africans who were brought to Morocco via the Trans-Sahara slave trade. If the parallels to Afro-Americans aren't striking enough, the Stambeli music of Tunisia, played by a related West-African descended group in Tunisia, employs a "gombri" (a variation of "gombri" or "guembri") that is built with a (deep) drum body rather than a more traditionally Sub-saharan African gourd body. They also play it with that clawhammer style. It's uncanny that a similar adaptation to the West African lute occured with Afro-descendants in the Americas.
@DerSchleier
@DerSchleier 10 месяцев назад
​@@theoldkid5725African roots? Aryan roots... not African per se. The Aryan/Blanc has long existed all across North Africa (from today's Morroco all the way through Egypt). The origination of stringed instrumemtation emanated from Europe/Aryans.
@PepperDarlington
@PepperDarlington 3 года назад
That same woodburner heats our home. When the harvest is done and the grasses lay dormant, I may be fortunate enough to sit in my chair, watching your catalogue of moving pictures alongside it's warmth. If I don't procrastinate half my summer chores, that is 😂
@carylynngrimes5691
@carylynngrimes5691 3 года назад
Thank you for sitting down with us and sharing your knowledge
@Ginlock45
@Ginlock45 3 года назад
Leatherstockings is the second only to Dio in the heavy metal hall of fame
@daisbumflea9070
@daisbumflea9070 2 года назад
P r e a c h
@markdietrichcochran2274
@markdietrichcochran2274 3 года назад
Thanks to your inspiration I'm ordering a fretless, open back, nylgut, minstrel style banjo. I'm so excited for this new musical adventure!
@ephialtesjackson3620
@ephialtesjackson3620 2 года назад
Thank you sir for the information. Banjo is in my daily instrument rotation since 2 years ago.
@MoM-nx3sh
@MoM-nx3sh Год назад
Thanks cliff - bruh I saw you on TV in an itaq war panel talking about your experiences like in the 2000s or something lol then I saw you on YT playing musical styles I was diving into myself. Was really trippy tbh. Much love to you dude.
@dAvrilthebear
@dAvrilthebear 3 года назад
The 1790s were crazy, we all listened to Old Letherstocking and the likes, we knew all the words and tried to learn the chords, the parties were amazing, the dancing, and the booze was great too. Ah, good times, good times!
@jpf77302
@jpf77302 3 года назад
College was the best.
@8wheeledassassins.
@8wheeledassassins. 3 года назад
I had such a great time plucking away and listening to this live stream! Thanks Clifton.
@toadeepants
@toadeepants 3 года назад
Love your history lessons so much, Clifton!!
@savedbyjesus9403
@savedbyjesus9403 3 года назад
More banjo history/ Old Leatherstocking videos please. ☺️❤️💯
@veroldaley1
@veroldaley1 3 года назад
Thank you sir, enjoy your lessons regarding the playing and the history of this wonderful instrument
@bryanlentz7160
@bryanlentz7160 11 месяцев назад
I started playing the banjo a couple years ago, and I’m trying to learn all I can about the history as well as playing. While there ARE many good sources, Clifton IS one of, if not, the best!
@WieldingEminator
@WieldingEminator 3 года назад
See, this is why we need to stop tearing down and banning history! Here, I learned something I never knew before, and I learned more about history in these few minutes than many kids today get in their semesters.
@mississippijohnfahey7175
@mississippijohnfahey7175 2 года назад
Yeah, dumb ass kids and their dumb ass colleges. This is a whole year's education in ten minutes 🤘🤘 screw those lazy youngsters Real talk though, this history isn't banned. You can take a course on Appalachian history at many colleges in the region
@duncansmith6696
@duncansmith6696 3 года назад
I'd like to see a leather Stocking and Amigo the Devil colab. Please.
@ronaldwellman4046
@ronaldwellman4046 3 года назад
Enjoyed this along with my children. History is important. Thank you hopefully more to come
@allank8497
@allank8497 3 года назад
Old Leatherstocking could play a dark rendition of Rosin the Beau
@farnorthpicker56
@farnorthpicker56 Год назад
Well you just answered my question about “ Old Leatherstocking” ! Thanks for the history!
@invinciblecheng7844
@invinciblecheng7844 2 года назад
You have a lot of great content and have helped me tremendously in my banjo playing. Thank you.
@jakeglanville6835
@jakeglanville6835 2 года назад
Once again, you've got it spot on, Clifton. Thanks. Don't forget, as I've mentioned elsewhere, the banjo was very popular in England, and that was well before the American Civil War, because we had a great slave Empire, and those from Africa brought the banjo with them. In fact, as you may already know, slavers were instructed to make sure they grabbed a banjo player or two to keep the other slaves happy. Black Jake.
@Blenduu
@Blenduu Год назад
Wow. Thank you for this info. I'd love to know your resource .
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 Год назад
Nonsense.
@jakeglanville6835
@jakeglanville6835 Год назад
@@Blenduu Thanks. Not quite sure what you mean by 'resource'. If a keen interest in the history of the banjo going back to my distant relative Alfred Glanville Vance aka 'The Great Vance (d.1888) is a resource, then I certainly have that. Clifton Hicks, Rhiannon Giddens and Jim Carrier are good sources, and well worth looking at. BJ.
@jakeglanville6835
@jakeglanville6835 Год назад
@@jeffhildreth9244 Ah, clearly a gentleman and a scholar. Thanks. Can you be a little more specific?
@quintinpace2627
@quintinpace2627 3 года назад
Cool channel. Very interesting
@cdreery7304
@cdreery7304 Год назад
You are a fountain of knowledge!
@salinagrrrl69
@salinagrrrl69 2 года назад
In the filming of, "The Blue & The Grey" Fayetteville Ark 1981 film makers hired a local banjo artist w/ a repro CW era banjo & a knowledge of tunes that era. A tune be played at the campfire went, "If Ah had some liquor Ida get drunkr than a dicker."
@frozemoments7873
@frozemoments7873 3 года назад
Your one of a kind . The knowledge and unknown wisdom of the banjo and music in general is something that needs preserved. Season In the Abyss ... my friend we are. God Bless. LIVE Is Awsome. 🎯👍🏼 If OldLeatherStocking made his strings from anything els besides intestines from a large wild and wise mammal....I would be disappointed and the World wouldn’t be the same. Haha
@DaisyHead666
@DaisyHead666 2 года назад
Is that a Slayer reference? maybe not.. But truth nonetheless
@MitchMb14
@MitchMb14 3 года назад
My great-great-great-great-great grandfather who fought in the Revolutionary War had at least one slave whom he left to my great-great-great-great grandfather's brother and then my branch of the family had no more slaves. Now you've got me wondering if that slave had a banjo.
@fastheartmartvideos
@fastheartmartvideos 3 года назад
Thanks for explaining this history Clifton! Very interesting :)
@reneeboissett2772
@reneeboissett2772 3 года назад
Love your content Clifton, keep doing what you do Il keep being grateful for it ❤️❤️❤️
@jackorbit7258
@jackorbit7258 3 года назад
Thanks, Clifton for the fill in history. Good onfo.
@montedogfish2626
@montedogfish2626 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing awesome channel
@robgarnes
@robgarnes 3 года назад
I appreciate your wisdom my king.
@writer4peace
@writer4peace 3 года назад
Thank you for this history and for sharing your songs.
@Spencer-vq7se
@Spencer-vq7se 3 года назад
What tuning are you using in your old leather stocking songs? very curious
@markvandyke3026
@markvandyke3026 3 года назад
Speaking of subscribers, look at your numbers Clif!
@anthonylakey9735
@anthonylakey9735 20 дней назад
this is the kind of teachings they are trying to keep out of schools, so we as a people have to teach our own kids
@actualsurfer
@actualsurfer 10 месяцев назад
As a banjo player I am very happy that the banjo came to America. Also happy that the banjo transcended race so early on. You can be sure that Irish slaves learned the art from black slaves. The banjo is truly the instrument of the people. Uniting our cultures. I endeavor to get better at it and I encourage others to do the same.
@BRedFilms
@BRedFilms 3 года назад
I love this.
@bryanlentz7160
@bryanlentz7160 11 месяцев назад
Like to see more of Old Leatherstocking!
@themanhimself1229
@themanhimself1229 3 года назад
The fact you mention Anglo-America at 3:57 has me wondering two things. One, did the Gaelic immigrants to the Mountains really have a distinct identity In the late 1700s, or did that come later. IE, did they consider themselves 'Anglo-Americans'. Two, when did playing banjos get fully associated with Gaelo-America Appalachians, rather than the Black Appalachians?
@ducktapepilot
@ducktapepilot 3 года назад
Is it just me or does this guy look and sound a lot like Old Leatherstocking?
@larryphillips8101
@larryphillips8101 3 года назад
So that's where you got Old Leatherstocking.
@banjoman123
@banjoman123 3 года назад
I’d be curious to know who was steaming wood in or around Lynchburg in the 1830’s. I always though Thonet innovated that technology around the same time in Europe. I suppose someone could’ve been making drums in the area. Maybe that information is already out there. It’s been a minute since I chatted with the Appomattox / Sweeney people.
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 года назад
I think people were using heat and water to bend wood long before Thonet; for example, the Windsor chair was developed before 1800. I'm guessing that Thonet merely perfected the process. Either way, it's apparent that virtually all banjos described in the historical record before Sweeney/Boucher are gourd-bodied instruments, and that gourds all but disappear after circa 1840; replaced by wooden, steam-bent sound chambers.
@rosafalls8068
@rosafalls8068 3 года назад
I know little on this subject, but I looked up history of old baskets, since I inherited a single basket as my grandma's dying request....no inheritance to leave, but she kept saying I had to have the basket. I looked up old baskets and found it was as common if not more common in some places to make wooden baskets than reed baskets, and nearly everyone knew how to make baskets, choose wood, soak, bend and weave until about the 1940's. The more common competence and knowledge base in older days, even of making baskets would possibly, have contributed to making banjos at a very early stage, methinks. Edit: barrel making was also common and could easily have contributed to the early banjo. Anyone that could make a wood basket or barrel could have made an early banjo too.
@1truemoose
@1truemoose 2 года назад
@@CliftonHicksbanjo Foxfire 3 has a section on traditional methods of constructing banjos and dulcimers. One uses a bent hickory hoop, others use rings cut from hardwood.
@Celticman197
@Celticman197 9 месяцев назад
The banjo today is really a totally different instrument, especially the 5 string resonator banjo used for 3 finger style. It really is even separate from a modern open back used for frailing. Even the tuning in many instances is different. Those 18th and 19th century banjos were mostly fretless, and used only for beating out a foot stomping rythym, almost like a drum beat. They have very little if anything in common with 20th century banjos, or the Musicians, and even less in common than the banjos today in the hands of the skilled virtuoso, modern banjo Players.
@aaronkelley8909
@aaronkelley8909 2 года назад
Awesome work!
@veridicusmaximus6010
@veridicusmaximus6010 2 года назад
I'm not so sure Sweeney did not 'invent' the 5 string frame drum banjo. Most of Sweeney's contemporaries say he did. I guess they could be mistaken or lying. Not sure if Sweeney ever claimed he did? But I also don't know anything that would suggest he did not. It is interesting as you say that no mention of the 5 string frame banjo was around until Sweeney!
@genghistron00
@genghistron00 2 года назад
Enjoyed these words of truth from an empathetic and ignorant perspective of our hurman strggle. Thank You Sir Clif!
@EvilJesus33
@EvilJesus33 3 года назад
Fire
@MrJbold25
@MrJbold25 3 года назад
Fascinating stuff
@bearshield7138
@bearshield7138 2 года назад
thank you you should do a reading list
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 2 года назад
Banjo History Reading List 👉 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SWzp9tbR64k.html
@bearshield7138
@bearshield7138 2 года назад
@@CliftonHicksbanjo Thank you I will
@antmothirteen6540
@antmothirteen6540 3 года назад
Thank you
@randalclarke5487
@randalclarke5487 3 года назад
You look like a young Jon Voigt lol
@Doylemcfarlane369
@Doylemcfarlane369 3 года назад
The banjo came from Africa it was a pumpkin or a gourd I think is the fruits name is.So in africa it was a stick in a fruit with a animal skin stretched over it with 3 strings how amazing and Cumberland gaps a tune 😊
@shakazulu9763
@shakazulu9763 2 года назад
O death. Great one.
@plethoraofpinatas.
@plethoraofpinatas. 3 года назад
The Drone Abides!
@gringogreen4719
@gringogreen4719 3 года назад
What about Celtic music? Wouldn't this be around the same time or earlier?
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 года назад
I am by no means an expert on traditional Celtic music. My guess would be that, like American trad, most of the stuff one hears at festivals or on recordings probably stems from the 1960s folk music revival. That being said, various forms of flutes, violins, drums, and bagpipes have been played continuously in Britain and Ireland for thousands of years. I think most folk music in that area wasn't documented until the 18th century, whereas American folk music went largely undocumented until the late 19th century.
@FFGG22E
@FFGG22E 2 месяца назад
The black banjo had no strings though. It was a drum.
@cragslist8987
@cragslist8987 Год назад
I've only just begun diving into your channel. You are a fountain of knowledge. I appreciate your more nuanced take as opposed to the typical reductionist takes.
@NemoNepersonne
@NemoNepersonne Год назад
Elsewhere, you mention a Portuguese reference from around 1620 to Africans playing guitar-like instruments. A large percentage of the Africans sold into slavery were sold by Muslims who originally came from Arabia, Egypt, etc. The first stringed instrument from that region was the Rebab, which has existed in many forms and is still played in many countries. It was usually bowed, but not always. It was originally a gourd with a skin head and a long neck. It could have varying numbers of strings, including sometimes strings on the side of the neck. It was made in many sizes. The musical traditions of the Middle East and Egypt would likely be carried into Muslim Africa, and it would be expected that non-Muslim Africans would see these and make their own. Thus, the idea of the banjo carried to the Americas was very possibly a memory of folk instruments derived from middle eastern instruments.
@jakeglanville6835
@jakeglanville6835 Год назад
Too right, mate!
@wanicki3579
@wanicki3579 Год назад
Thanks for the info I appreciate you
@blackdeeplake
@blackdeeplake 3 года назад
Hey clifton check out.luke kelly of the dubliners
@michaelharvey5138
@michaelharvey5138 3 года назад
Very interesting !... You live and learn...I'd always thought the 19nth century was the earliest white men played banjo..I'm still playing now in the 21st !!....
@DerSchleier
@DerSchleier 10 месяцев назад
The Roman Catholic slaves (from Wales, Scotland and Ireland) brought the stringed instrument knowledge with them as they were deposited in the Caribbean and North America.
@ChrisThompson-nn2pv
@ChrisThompson-nn2pv 2 года назад
👍👍
@fredd5046
@fredd5046 3 года назад
Man can make anytging
@smokey121979
@smokey121979 3 года назад
Guess what I'm Democrat and I don't even hate your music. In fact I love it
@Rackhamish
@Rackhamish 3 года назад
The banjo originated from West Africa, and was brought to the americas through the enslaved Africans in the Caribbean carrying on their tradition. It was in the early to mid 1800s (pre civil war) that it gained popularity with white americans. Though I'm sure it was played earlier as well, it became more established with the american 'white' population in the early-mid 1800s.
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 года назад
The earliest accounts of what can be positively identified as a "banjo" come from the Caribbean--not West Africa. Recent organological studies of early gourd banjos indicate that they are a hybrid instrument, borrowing heavily from both African and European lutes. By 1740 the gourd banjo had spread across the east coast of what would become the United States, and by 1780 it occupied a central role in both black and white folk culture--especially in the South.
@Rackhamish
@Rackhamish 3 года назад
@@CliftonHicksbanjo Thanks for the reply! I'll look more into the origins.
@connorgerman8374
@connorgerman8374 3 года назад
Soooo.... a towns van sant cover with cliton hicks and nick shoulder
@actualsurfer
@actualsurfer 10 месяцев назад
What about the Chinese? dont they get any credit for their Qinqin they developed over 5000 years ago and that they brought to India and North Africa via ancient trade routes?
@bryandovbergman5654
@bryandovbergman5654 3 года назад
Well if he always had a Banjo with him, so much so he couldn't even escape without one, the master should have been happy he ran away lol
@porkchop803scwilliams9
@porkchop803scwilliams9 3 года назад
Are you leatherstockings?
@bull419
@bull419 3 месяца назад
The Spanish already had a guitar in the Middle Ages and brought to the Americas in the 1400s .!!
@landonshanerthebanjokid5906
@landonshanerthebanjokid5906 3 года назад
Beware dont look into the eyes of Ol Leatherstocking He will steal your soul and sell it to the Devil😂
@religionisatragedy8537
@religionisatragedy8537 3 года назад
3:35 Wtf? 😂😂
@maxxvaxtor8501
@maxxvaxtor8501 3 года назад
If it was brought to America by the Africans how come it's part of Irish folk music?
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 года назад
I was raised hearing that the banjo came from Ireland, but this isn't the case. The earliest known banjos (dating to the late 1600s/early 1800s) were played in the Caribbean--places like Haiti and Jamaica. My understanding is that the banjo was later popularized in Britain during the 1840s by entertainers from the United States. As far as I know, the 4-string Irish banjo did not emerge until circa 1900.
@daisbumflea9070
@daisbumflea9070 2 года назад
"hiii yeah I mean I know you're kind of like my property and all and your human rights are non existent but what's that cool soundin thing ya got there and also can you teach me how to use it :) ???"
@anonymoususer6683
@anonymoususer6683 3 года назад
Are banjos going to be racist now?
@PermacultureAppalachia
@PermacultureAppalachia 3 года назад
"... from my cold, dead fingers."
@mikebobson2768
@mikebobson2768 3 года назад
“CuLtUrAl ApRoPiATiOn”
@jackieblue787
@jackieblue787 3 года назад
Propaganda are us
@toraimanchester4658
@toraimanchester4658 3 года назад
the banjo came into your culture via irish travellers...
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 года назад
🤣 Thanks, I hadn't heard that one.
@toraimanchester4658
@toraimanchester4658 3 года назад
@@CliftonHicksbanjo do you even realise how america was founded
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