The truth about dropping out of a PhD 

I gave up mine because I felt trapped by it and it made me suicidal. It was a toxic environment for me mentally and physically. 4 years removed and considerably happier/in a better place. Leaving the PhD was the right choice for me.

I burned my health during my PhD. Finished it, but I'm quite traumatized (I was an international student in France). If I had to do it again, I would not. It's not worth it. The "prestige" is not that great and you get paid shit for killing yourself at work for years.

My supervisors amplified my imposter syndrome and their treatment of me made it a very unhealthy space to explore ideas, test them out, and feel safe to learn skills.

I'm in my fourth year of a PhD and i thought about dropping out so many times because of how the supervisor was disrespectful and not helpful in my field, they assigned me to him and to my surprise he doesn't even have the experience in my field so i found myself seeking and looking for help from other professors who are experienced and professional, I'm trying to finish this since it's too late to drop out, it's mentally exhausting. But i will make it 🙏🏻🥺

I quit the PhD near the top of my class after two years, and in retrospect it's because I didn't seek out good mentorship from the beginning. I burned myself out on 16 hour days of studying and TAing to the point that I dreaded every moment of every day. This worsened to the point that I just couldn't start my classes at the beginning of a quarter. I was so focussed on taking classes with the intent of excelling on tests, and I didn't break through that barrier to realizing that research -- the messy, uncertain, and ultimately very fun research -- was really the point. I was so obsessed with perfection that I wasted probably half my time investment on turning A- grades into A+s! My professors were astonished when I left because I was vetted as "research material" based on my class performance, but I had crazy ideas about what research really is, and I didn't have the close mentor relationships to steer me in the right direction. I pulled the rip cord, finished a masters by examination and found a full time teaching gig. That was always my bailout plan, and after about a decade I finally had a research experience while taking a sabbatical semester. I researched every day to write a book on using computer algebra/coding to solve calculus and physics problems, and since then I've mentored undergraduate students in their own related research projects to present at a local math conference, hoping to successfully communicate the non-linear/messy/fun nature of research in the process. I have also helped several students transfer to my alma mater with a summer research experience for undergraduates (REU) program, to help them gain the perspective that I couldn't . . . and they have been successful in their PhD experiences. Last point -- my "official advisor" from grad school has become a life long friend (a treasured memory is when my 1 year old son was playing ball with him using an inflatable cosmic microwave background ball), but I never got to know him until I was already on my way out of the system. The moral here is that human connection is absolutely key to surviving the process! z

I dropped out and I have zero regrets. I realised I didn't want to work in academia / enter into the post-doc lottery and I was already qualified to get a decent job.

It looks like the sound issues have fixed themselves - let me know if it is still an issue and I'll look into it. Thank you so much for your support!

I am at the process of quitting my PhD as well- I cannot describe how happy I am at the moment. Hope it continues ☺️

I dropped out. My supervisor died. My Phd program coordinator told me : either work with person x or quit. Person x is super toxic. Hence i quit. But there is this tingling sensation of incompleteness which is bothering me

Didn't realize I was such a rare bird (single mom, finished at age 52).

I hated the stress with my PhD. My stipend on paper seemed like a fair amount of money. Then I was told that I still had to pay tuition and fees which reduced the stipend by a half. Then with the outrageous amount rent was could barely afford food. A luxury item like a new winter coat involved going into debt or dipping into savings. The financial stress was a part of it. I had supervisors that never had anything nice to say. I always hated meetings with them. One of the supervisors was so awful I had to go to the clinic to ask for anxiety meds. The other would only talk to me while eating since he was so busy. To make more money I performed teaching assistant duties. The problem was this really ate up a lot of time. The grading took forever. If you didn't grade something fairly, some students would go over you and go to some professor and complain and then you would get an unpleasant talk about how bad of a grader you were. The problem was that the time wasted grading ment that you had less time for research. My supervisors were angry with how much time I spent for TA duties. I said that if I didn't I would only have ~$100 a week of my stipend after I paid the various university fees. I needed to work or I wouldn't be able to pay my rent. But the final thing was my mothers health. I would travel back and forth since she was sick and not quite there mentally. My mind was always worried about her. I had the choice to live this extra stress rich life and get a PhD in 7 years and help my mother who was getting sicker and more confused by the week. I opted for being with my mother. She slipped away and it was very difficult to be there and watch that happen, but I would have hated myself if I stayed in the program and didn't help her.

I’ve mentally checked out of my PhD years ago. Totally disillusioned with academia, unstimulated by bench work, bored and unmotivated out of my mind, being a terrible employee. I’m in my fourth year and I’m wrapping up a manuscript and writing my thesis so that I can get the effing title. Then I’m out. Will use my PhD as leverage in salary negotiations for a real job in the real world. Stay strong and GTFO. Edit: And this has happened to someone who was first in rank among my entire selection cohort at a very prestigious institution AND I had a first-author paper published in a pretty nice journal after my undergrad before even starting grad school. This is to say that it can happen to anyone, you’re not alone in this.

I just declined my fully paid PhD offer. I hate how overworking was a culture in academia (especially in Asia), and I think it was not worth it to sacrifice your health and personal time by working >12 hours a day 6 days (sometimes 7 days) a week just for a degree.

I checked out of my PhD because my supervisor set me up for failure. I recently met an academic copy editor with an excellent resume and care for my research. He's motivating me to complete the manuscript so his company can examine it internally before I can submit with faculty without supervisor sign off ✨ it's hard since I can't work on it anymore but I push daily though I sleep and eat a lot while forcing myself to barely show up for work as my sole income source 🥺 never dated and I'm mid 30s female with 11 years lecturing experience.

Not only supervisor support is important, but also institutional support. There is a culture of victim blaming when a student leaves a lab or a PhD that its always the student's fault for being uncooperative, lazy and stupid even if the supervisor was neglectful, abusive or even aggressive. These stories float around and essentially you don't want to be seen as "that" student who dropped out.

Also possible factors: if you're not married and seeking a relationship that takes a lot of time and energy away from everything else, and the rocky nature of dating is a major psychological stressor. Getting a PhD puts you in a VERY isolating environment, and I don't just mean in the lab/office. It's very isolating socially and in all aspects of life, and plenty of people can't thrive (in general, not just work-wise) in such an environment. That's probably a huge aspect of people feeling "trapped" while doing a PhD. Honestly the environment factor is something that could easily be fixed but for some reason is usually made worse. Edit: and this isn't just about "work-life balance" i.e. giving PhD students time outside work. It's also the entire physical and social environment surrounding the area. Are PhD students included in social life on campus or are they shunned or considered second-class compared to undergrads as is the case at many universities? Does the social environment match the specific PhD candidate? Each university has its own unique social culture and matching students with that is actually very important and usually overlooked. And what's life like in the broader city/area at large? Are you stuck at a university in the middle of nowhere where the only people you'll interact with are on campus, which could be a problem for some but not others? Etc. Etc.

I completed my PhD due to great support system. My chair was amazing. I miss working with her.

Lovely video 😊 thanks for the heads up and information ☺️ I feel really low sometimes. Your videos are very helpful 😃👍

I dropped my PhD after 1 year after realizing the Academic "game" that needs to be played. One of the contributing factors was also the constant negativity of other PhD and postdoc students. They all complained how they hated doing their PhD. Why did they do it, they are so happy it's done etc. etc. As a fresh academic I just thought "OK a PhD apparently sucks" and during the year I couldn't agree more. It just wasn't for me. 3 years later, I'm really happy where I landed.

Thank you for all the information Andrew. I'm a bachelor's student and when planning for my future I regularly consider doing a PhD (of course after applying for and completing a master's). However as someone suffering from an anxiety disorder I've always worried about the amount of stress that comes with it and whether or not I could tolerate it, especially since I plan on doing it in a foreign country. So thanks for helping me understand the risks and how to deal with them in the future. Also your beard looks glorious.

This excellent Andrew, the external forces during this journey and the ability to control your thoughts are essential.

Thank you so much Andrew for this video

Thia video is perfect for me. I droped out a month ago. Thank you so much 🙏 I will carefully watch it

Thank you, Andrew!

Dr Stapleton, well done with the editing upgrades.

Yeah... I pretty much can check most of the boxes here. lol I dropped out of a Ph.D. program and even though having a freaking stressful experience during the program and after dropping out, I need to say that was the best thing I did. I had no support because I was an international student in a small town, so no support because I didn't know anyone, the city was very much a university city and significant language barrier to create any meaningful bond. In addition, my advisor didn't show up in her office, I had to send her emails, text her about the email and pray she would answer. On top of that I just hated the program dynamics because I was in a management program (social science) approaching the field from disjointed elements perspectives, very similar to physics. Personally I believe they study the description of human behavior rather than social behavior per se. In short, I dropped out and I am 100% sure I made I the best decision because I just everything related to that specific program.

Love your channel, you remind me how horrifyingly messed up all of those Profs were that I learned from all those many years ago. Keep up the fun stuff.

I dropped out of my PhD program a couple years ago and never looked back. The sunk cost fallacy, especially after completing my qualifying exams, is what gave me so much anxiety. Today though, I have found my happiness in public speaking, project management, and process improvement. This is a much more fulfilling (and better paying) career and I believe the happiest I've ever been in my professional life. Besides, I have a family to support and need to save for retirement :) On a side note, I do want to teach, but I can get that satisfaction by working as adjunct faculty part-time for a professional Master's program. It was the adjunct faculty with a foot in industry who taught the best classes while I was working towards my Master's :D

I have to stay... of all the grad-school-info content producers, you are the only one that has managed to post consistently different enough content each week t that it remains engaging. I feel like most other grad-school-info producers run out of things to say/talk about.. or can't talk about the same things differently in the way you do. Props to you!

A PhD is challenging, and one of the aspects is that people not so much fail as fail to complete. There are a number of key factors with the two most important being: the ability to focus on one thing for the duration of the PhD; and mental resilience/grit to go on when you're in the middle of the tunnel and there's no light on either side. A good support system as well as not letting it consume you helps a lot. If you are lucky you have someone with or doing a PhD in your support group (maybe even your significant other) as the whole thing often appears nonsensical for complete outsiders. As to supervisors, it should be like a master/mentor apprentice role, and they should also provide you with the confidence on your progress (and help you manage it) as well as giving you some pastoral support. (hey, a student with their head in the doldrums is less likely to complete and make them look good)

A couple of months ago I considered quitting, now I'm determined to finish

Also, majestic beard.

I quit my PhD in a EU country 2 years ago. I was in for about 3,5 years. There was just zero appreciation for the work I did, everyone thought it was "normal" to have to work during weekends and if you felt bad about it, it was something wrong with you. There was no guidance from my supervisor and I just got really depressed and unmotivated. After me, another 3 people quit from the same group. I think universities should check for academic groups with high dropout rates and find the reason for that rate. I work in industry now and am motivated, get appreciated and challenged in a positive way every day. To me, quitting was the best decision I could make. So yes, just want to say that there are other jobs out there and nothing is worth destroying your mental health for :)

It's a stressful dilemma because the forces in both directions are usually very strong-doctoral programs tend toward harrowing and can be stultifying, all while a world of more mainstream opportunities awaits, but that same intensity is why it's such a respected achievement to earn a PhD. I finished, but I hope no one feels quitting would reflect on them as a person, if it's what they really felt was best. Continuing to do something that feels futile or that doesn't fit with your aims or goals is simply imprudent. No one wins. Pulling the ripcord when it would allow you to live a version of your life you'd prefer is simply wise.

I remeber some time ago in the last days of my Master Degree, my advisor, you know, she tried to convince me to go on and continue for a PhD. When we sat and discuss it, it became clear that she obviously wanted me to do some specific research that was in her (and her team) best interest. There were some gaps in her research team and I was the person to fill one of those gaps. But my idea of a PhD is to do research in a topic that you are truly and genuinely interested in. On the contrary, the idea of going for PhD in something I was not truly genuinely interested in seemed to me very strange. It is like marrying someone you don't love just for the sake of marriage. Her offer was kind but it felt like getting a job. "Im hiring you to do this and that because that's what I need" Part of the funding would come from some sponsors and some other part I should get (I was in a position to get it, actually). But I did not like the idea of doing some research that I was not interested. PhD is about 6 years of nonstop working hard so you'd better like what you do.

I am so glad I dropped out of my PhD program. I was under so much stress that I didn't even realize how toxic and gaslighting my PI was. I am a bit sad that I cannot lead research as a job, but I really enjoy the work I do now.

At my uni, every single one I met that left with just a masters are all well-employed in industry making way more money than almost all the PhD graduates that stayed. I just got my PhD and I wish my job prospects were as good as theirs!

it's very disturbing seeing all these stories about supervisors setting people up for failure, during and after PhD. It's also, very sadly, a reality. To everyone out there trying to find strength on their own: you're ok, do what you can, and if not, you can find happiness everywhere else :)

great video 👏👏👏

Drop out here 👋🏽 yes. ALL of those reasons. Conferred my ma two months ago and so far couldn’t be happier; but am looking to finish at another school later.

Its switching over to more challenging assignments with better outcome. The sincare efforts put in the Research journey is enriching and equips with transferable skills. Every phase of journey is exciting. There are memorable milestones in every phase. The final milestone of being awarded PhD is only one among several milestones. At times, its prudent to switch lanes to reach further Goals.

Very interesting video , looove your channel , from iraq

I also had a terrible supervisor. He treated me poorly during my first two years, when I still had funding. He did no even let me withdraw funding for a very important part of my fieldworlk.my funding ran out on my third year. If I hadn’t been a person of privileges, and a stable socioeconomic environment back home, I wouldn’t have finished after 5 years, and plus needed to wait until they give me the date of my viva. I just did not give up because I had these favorable conditions, and plus I was extremely passionate about my topic.

I'm thinking about dropping out in my third year. I have an advisor that is thoughtful and considerate, but she's heavily distracted by all the projects going on, and due to my university splitting, being forced to retire this year. My new advisor will be substantially more busy and doesn't have knowledge about the field I'm working in, and there's been talks about switching me to a different project and professor. But also due to the split, all the other students have turned vicious. People are attacking each other's work, stealing ideas, and trying to rapidly publish so that they can finish their prelim and dissertation early, and I've mostly checked out from helping others in the lab. But due to all of the dysfunction, and the lack of awareness by my supervisor, my research keeps getting disrupted and changed on me. I have no promise on funding next year, and have barely published anything worthwhile. I'm just ready to walk away at this point and never look back.

I’m not sure I’m a good example here, but I never finished. I got two academic jobs before it became clear that I could not get put of my own way. I’m teaching (which is what I wanted to do), but it has been a painful , emotionally difficult journey to come to terms with my perceived “failure”. Now I am trying to focus on the success of my NTT career. Thanks for your content Andy!

I dropped out because of the denigrating behavior of some of the professors. I hadn’t been targeted but I could not stand the prospect and I could not stand witnessing others suffer it.

I'm a Bachelor's student that has completed their Associate's degree. I've made a determination that a Master's is the furthest I'll go. I couldn't handle a PhD.

I am heading toward dropping out of PhD because of many reasons: - First and foremost, it is affecting my mental health with the incessant stress and anxiety. -The institution where I study does not provide us with anything: no info, no guidance, no library, no office, no internet, just nothing! -I couldn't choose a supervisor. Three consecutive supervisors were assigned to me, and I have been instructed to not communicate with any of them (seriously, what???!!) The first one dropped me just like that. The second one, when I talked to her she said she was sick and she wouldn't supervise me and I am not her problem, the third one is in a completely different country now and doesn't answer any of my emails/messages -They don't give us enough money even to cover travel costs, about 60€/month (like, am I joke to you?) And I have to travel about 430km back and forth whenever I have to make a trip to university. (it's in Algeria if you are wondering where it is) -The dormitory is just beyond horrible. I have watched a documentary about Guantanamo and I swear it's better than the dormitories here. -I have encountered several problems and had to change my topic because I have been accused of plagiarism, although I didn't plagiarize because the topic stemmed from my personal experience. I wasn't heard, and I was never given the chance to defend myself. -lastly, I have moved house recently, and I have been waiting to have WiFi for a year, and nothing. My research relies mainly on the internet. So, it's practically impossible for me to do my PhD under these circumstances. It's worse than torture. I am really sad that I have to let go of this dream of mine.

Money is a huge issue. I'm self funded and surving on less than the stipend others are given. I'm asking every day at the moment if I can keep going but doing a phd it is a complete mind **** . Less about academics after a point. Woo as you said is critical.

I took 10 years part time to finish my PhD, as I was working full time as well. Imagine working from 730 am till 5 pm 5 days a week, then coming home to look after a child and then starting researching and writing from 8 PM till 12 AM for 10 years. These full time PhD students have it so easy. The trick is to constantly improve and keep pushing to better your writing and thesis structure (and publish too). I never thought about quitting and I got to a point where no matter how hard it got and how much bad feedback I got, I kept going. I can't remember how many times I was told "you are not to the required standard and you are not doing well". I ended up becoming numb to the feedback and just got on with it. When I submitted my PhD, I was given 6 weeks to make revisions but it took me 2 days. I took onboard 80% of what was said (more so adding in more literature), but discounted, humbly, 20% of it and explained why. I was 42 when I was conferred with my PhD (in Australia). I often hear from people who 'quit' about toxic cultures, bad supervisors, blah blah. But all of those who quit have some common traits....they are people with no discipline or backbone. They always talk about how its someone elses fault and how they felt bad and exhausted ect. They were obviously not cut out to become a Doctor in their field. If you think a PhD is hard, wait to you get into the real world. My current job is twice as hard as writing a PhD or publishing papers. Brilliant and driven people that I work with who do not have a PhD keep me on my toes and really push me.

What should you do if you were told that no funding is available for you after your first year in Virginia Tech CS PhD program? Especially if your admission offer mentioned only one-year of funding guarantee, and when you get suspicious about the offer and asked for the reason, you were told that this is a formality and most of their students are funded throughout their PhD. What if, when you arrive, no professor wants to take you as a PhD student and just ignore your emails from the day one? Is not this considered a scam that is bringing an international student with tricky offers from overseas and leaving them stranded with no advisor and consequently with no funding to force them to leave? Please alert other students about this issue. These days it has become a common trick applied by some US state schools with low funding schemes that are in a dire need for cheap TA labor. They bring you in as a temporary teaching assistant labour under the disguise of a PhD student, but you are doomed to failure from the start. Btw: There are no academic dishonesty, any academic deficiencies or other issues. GPA was 4.0 in the program.

When I realized I wouldn’t be able to do the type of research I wanted in order to write my thesis, I decided to discontinue my pursuit. Luckily, my program had the writing and research classes up front and made you find a dissertation chair before you could complete the second course. Otherwise, I would have beat my head against a wall for at least a year before realizing I just didn’t have the access I required. My chair spent over two hours with me, offering alternatives and problem-solving. She encouraged me to think of a topic closely related but reliant almost totally on meta-analysis. She was amazing and I was so lucky she accepted me, but there was no way I was going to make a commitment I knew I wouldn’t be able to keep. As someone with ADHD-undiagnosed but quite apparent at that time, that simply wouldn’t be realistic. It was the right decision and I don’t feel ashamed or guilty.

Doing my PhD part-time and working full-time, amounting to an additional 50 hours/week minimum on research. Consuming experience, I will be submitting in one month after 3 years of research. It has impacted my health significantly. Not sure if there is an easy way to do this.

I'm thinking about dropping out of my PhD. The lab culture is toxic (the supervisor's favourite gets away with sexual harassment and bullying) and it's destroyed my love for the subject. Having a supervisor to back you up is crucial, as you say. I wish I had been warned.

Well said about dropping out. Personally I just left it as I didn't like the 'academia politics'. What's more, the core of the system went awry everywhere. It's not about the quality of scientific research. It is just money and a race after citation indexes. I hated it. It doesn't mean you should not become a scientist, write your PhD, and focus on your research and teaching. You should. However it's worth knowing things that this channel is exposing. The success depends on how strong or brilliant you are, how brilliant your team is, and how lucky or successful you are with 'playing the game'. You have to prepare that just being a brilliant scientist might not cut it. Your discoveries might even be stolen. It's really a game with a lot of politics. It may sound horrible, and it is just a joke to elicit some laughter and it seems to be nothing more but there's also some dark truth in the funny performance by Tom Lerher _Lobachevsky._ There are just two pieces of advice: (1) Make sure your work is not stolen. Be even paranoaic about it but don't let them steal your discovery. (2) Don't take the place of real scientists who should be there. There are very few of them. If you do, you are the one who makes the system go awry, i.e. you are part of the problem. You can earn money elsewhere instead of publishing nonsense. It's so bad nowadays that it is almost impossible to find good research results among the landfill of garbage papers and articles.

"Dropping out" is by far the best economic decision you can make if you are in a PhD program.

Leaving my PhD was the best choice I ever made.

Research grants mostly applies to STEM fields. Historians like me only have to worry about tuition and the likely plane tickets we'll need to travel to certain places for first hand research. STEM careers pay better, though.

Hi Andy! Currently I am an international PhD student in Australia. If I decide to quit my PhD, what are my options to stay and work in Australia? Is it even possible or will I have to leave Australia immediately after I drop out?

I life after a month. Did not feel an imposter. I was too interested in making a living. I had my own company 😌 by the time I would have finished the PhD....

Wow!

After reading the comments, it seems that PhD students are mostly in academia. I think it might be useful if we start to really understand that a PhD is equally useful outside of academia. In that way, we might not drop out, knowing that there are really great job opportunities outside universities. So, I'd say, try to push through if you can, knowing that you won't have to remain in the toxic academic environment for too long.

I’m wondering if these situations are relevant to self-funded post-grads. If I felt obliged to work I’d be being paid for it. If I’m paying, I’d probably start asking “who do you think you’re talking to?”

Due to conflict with my supervisor I've dropped from PhD to MScR to complete the research and move on. Could you provide some advice on starting a PhD again somewhere else? I feel the application may be more difficult as it may not appear favourable that I didn't complete it the first time I tried. If you already have a video on the subject could you please link it, (as i couldn't find one when searching)?

I finished mine in ChemE years ago, but I was never able to grow such a luxurious beard.

Hi Andy, can not pull up the video

I have just had my first phd supervisory meeting, it was horrendous and my imposter syndrome went up the roof , I have worked so hard for this scholarship, my supervisor was on about viva and how should I make sure to pass the oral examination. This made it 100 times worse.

The number about fellowships is interesting, but does not demonstrate causality: in Belgium, the best MSc students can successfully compete for an FWO fellowship, and these (strong) students are also the most likely to complete - not because their income is stable, but because they were in the top 10% of MSc students. This is also reflected in the completion rate of magna/summa cum laude students...

you have a magnificent beard sir

How to choose an international supervisor if you don't know anything about it?

I feel as if I’m ready to give up my CS degree too smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

A+

Hello Andy I tried to reach you by email without succeeding... I got your e-books but I would like to have a printing version and I need your authorization to do that here in Denmark, Please check your email. Nice video BTW...good to know since I got accepted for a Ph.D.

Neurodiverse ( autism , ADHD, dyspraxia , dyslexia etc )especially undiagnosed ?

sound is good for me

I completed my PhD study in seven years. I'm glad that I made it. It was hard but a great experience.

I am about to finish my master's, and I am thinking of doing a doctorate degree. However, I am not sure what will be achieved after years of doing a PhD. Will that help me get an executive role in a good company?

I got caught up in a nasty divorce and ended up in academic posts making completion a moot point. I had an in state tuition waiver with only a couple classes and the footwork of my dissertation left to do.

I didn't give up my PhD but my 2 working friends did. We were working in the same field and their reason was " I don't see any motivation, the research project is going everywhere and no specific objective."

I can't hear the sound on this video

PhDs are high stakes investments and highly competitive. Both of those factors will marginalize women regardless what the topic at hand is.

You don't answered the Question: does is even Worth to Begin with the PhD at the beginning? a) who Pays and b) does Your Salary gets Bigger? in slow technical transition to better technologies eh?

I start in a fortnight. Fully funded, married, high mark in my Masters... If I drop out, it will probably be health related, although I intend to push through. I will need coffee, however.😏

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Importer syndrome becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy

I would rather focus for 3 years on starting a company than doing PhD.

I think the "u" in "cum" (latin for "with") is supposed to be pronounced like the one in "super", for example. Less awkward 🙂

You're not dropping out... you're making the logical choice. Source: quit grad school and now make $100k+ before bonus working while not one of my PhD cohort has a job better than a post doc position. Some still haven't gotten their PhD. Get a masters. Let academia die. It's grown too fat. Let industry replace it.

"Cum" is Latin for "With". "Summa cum laude" means "With highest honours". I would have expected someone with a Phd to know this.

Mandatory, that's not what it's for so you can do heroin.

Just got my funding cut ✂️. Due to DIE diversity inclusion and equity . Really downed the moral of our team

young girls who are at it part time. obviously this is just a waiting platform for them. As soon as a better offer comes along they are out of there. It is female mentality to take something up just to get a better offer. most of them score during their under grad and don't make it to phd.

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