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The truth about electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) - Helen M. Farrell

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In 1982, a young nurse was suffering from severe, unrelenting depression. She couldn’t work, socialize or concentrate. One controversial treatment changed everything: after two courses of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) her symptoms lifted. So what exactly is electroconvulsive therapy and why is it so stigmatized? Helen M. Farrell details the history and evolution of ECT.
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@AshtonColby 5 лет назад

I have done six sessions and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done but I am living life life of my dreams 2.5 years later. It was like hitting the reset button. I had to work hard to rebuild my life but it was worth it, it did save my life.

@RM-el3gw 4 года назад

What side effects did you have? Was life somehow harder after treatment?

@nelld9094 4 года назад

My psychiatric doctor wanted me to do this. I'm glad you're doing great

@michelletaylor7333 4 года назад

I’ve done ECT I had them 4 times 6 sessions each. I suffer from major depressive disorder and bipolar disorder along with generalized anxiety disorder I’m now raising 2 children and am a single mother

@miamor5929 4 года назад

I am also curious about this and the difference between TMS , If anyone got info feel free to inbox me or reply than you

@aaymathebest4705 4 года назад

@@Muck-qy2oo what's mean multiwave oscillator?

@lunawillowbrown 5 лет назад

I was given 13 treatments of ECT for depression. I ended treatment a year ago since I didn't feel I needed it anymore and this year I have been the most stable I've been in over a decade. I can honestly say ECT saved my life, and I refuse to be silent about the lifesaving benefits of ECT. ECT was, as is should be, the last resort. I had determined if it didn't work I would kill myself since I had completely given up after nearly a lifetime of dealing with mental health issues. I am by no means cured of all my mental afflictions, but I am able to live again.

@Jens-sl5je 5 лет назад

I also can only say good Things about its Just light pain in the head after U Wake Up...

@FlowinBeatz Год назад

Feeling very grateful for you! All the best!

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How have you been since?

@ulrikvarns-ou6xi Год назад

I have had electroshock myself, I have had 30+ treatments in a period with a week gap between each treatment. I dreaded the first treatment - not the ECT itself, but the anesthesia. On the 5th treatment I peed the bed during the treatment. I was really tormented by my illness before the treatment. I did not get the treatment under duress, but was offered it by the head doctor. After the first treatment, I couldn't really tell if I had gotten better or worse. But, after 3-4 treatments I could clearly feel an improvement. And today, 4 years later, I am grateful for that treatment.

@Winner1-c2u Год назад

Contact the Baum Hedlund law firm in CA if you have had ECT. National suit around devices used in ECT. We have medical malpractice interest now as well. See videos on RU-vid under ds electroshock to learn about this. Every procedure is an acquired TBI with systemic risks to include ALS and CTE.

@magnumbeans8030 5 лет назад

That’s like slapping the TV remote so it works again

@kay1426 5 лет назад

charging the batteries

@irondraak960 5 лет назад

@@kay1426 don't they have a chair for that? Perhaps you should try it.

@danyalmehboob4180 5 лет назад

its not as like u r thinking

@maxpower1337 5 лет назад

Or desensitization of the frontal lobe connections so it slows down connections.

@scalmer 5 лет назад

Better... It is like cutting someone's arm with a chainsaw and scientifically proof that the pain in that arm has been cured for 90% in all cases.

@ajallen9674 3 года назад

ECT is like the medical equivalent of “Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?”

@the_emmo 3 года назад

seems legit

@aikaterineillt9876 3 года назад

It’s much worse than that.

@lunaromance2243 3 года назад

@@aikaterineillt9876 its not even bad

@FolstrimHori 3 года назад

Yeah, and when the "computer" is shut off, all the stuff that's stored on your RAM is permanently wiped along with random chunks of saved data.

@17chains 3 года назад

@@FolstrimHori that's a good thing to some people.

@unleashingpotential-psycho9433 5 лет назад

I can’t imagine how scary it was for the first volunteer to receive electro convulsion therapy.

@mickeythemaltipoo3756 5 лет назад

UNLEASHING POTENTIAL - PSYCHOLOGY VIDEOS LOL volunteers

@andrijaobradovic2096 5 лет назад

@@mickeythemaltipoo3756lol i laughed so hard

@TheDeuceofSpades 5 лет назад

It's very likely the patient was facing extreme depression and would dare to try anything to alleviate the symptoms.

@aspydes 5 лет назад

and how brave

@lcoopcooperl 5 лет назад

@@mickeythemaltipoo3756 Exactly! Just like those "volunteers" at Unit 731...

@adelabuocikova2652 2 года назад

I had ECT treatment combined with meds and I have to say it didn't work for my depression. Doctors said it would not affect my memory too much but I forgot a lot of things that happened in my life before that and my memory is still not good. However, I met people that felt better after ECT. For me though, it didn't have the effect doctor expected. Not even a month after, I was in a psych ward again. Even though it didn't work for me, it helps millions of people in the world and I'm happy for each one of them. I appreciate that you raise awareness about topics like mental illness and even ECT because it's still something that people judge. Thank you

@jasmineshk1924 Год назад

Have you forget traumatic events

@adallie 4 месяца назад

Where did you get this procedure done?

@adelabuocikova2652 4 месяца назад

@@jasmineshk1924 unfortunately no but i forgot lots of the stuff that happened during that year when i had ect

@adelabuocikova2652 4 месяца назад

@@adallie in a psych ward in slovakia

@basyirahzulkifli1622 3 месяца назад

You are a wide-hearted person to be able to judge things fairly even though it didn’t work for you

@neslef3 5 лет назад

I once met someone, a relative of a relative of mine, who was once an investment banker and then worked as an analyst for a big bank. She got ECT to combat her depression. After many treatments the only outcome was that she lost most of her childhood memories and couldn't think straight anymore to the point where she couldn't work. It basically ruined her life. I'm not saying that ECT will do this to everyone, but you should never downplay the serious side effects of something, no matter how amazing it may seem.

@dannaquintero6265 4 года назад

neslef3 yes, that’s true! My mom was sign off for those treatments and it almost ruined her whole memories, got dyslexia, got multiple fractures, and some of her internal organs until today don’t work as they should, even tho she has always been a pretty healthy person

@gabrielrodriguez6157 4 года назад

I’m just saying, trouble concentrating, memory problems, and other cognitive problems can be symptoms of depression. So there is a chance that some of what she has experienced since is just depression that never improved/worsened?

@sanubala3382 3 года назад

It's okay for me I don't care if I lost my memory. I got nothing to loose, I'm overwhelmed with past depression, childhood neglection. I can't go to work or study or focus anything because of this. I lost my girl, I lost my dreams. People often avoid, even from my family. I feel sucide. I don't want the old past rule over me. I need a ECT

@northtxhomes. 3 года назад

:( I want to tell him I'm so sorry

@amandacar5679 3 года назад

@@gabrielrodriguez6157 memory problems are not a symptom of depression. forgetfulness or confusion are. not losing memory of last 5 years of your life. DO NOT SPREAD MISINFORMATION. this treatment is horrible. the order in which you should proceed if you are diagnosed with severe depression: 1. SSRI 2. other antidepressants 3. antidepressants and sedatives 4. cocktail of different antidepressants 5. psychedelic drugs (MDMA, LSD etc.) - not legal in most places, but worked for many who didn't have other choice .................... 100000000000000000000000000. ECT ECT: - works in only 50% cases, and even then mostly in combination with antidepressants (so would it even work without them?) - makes you suffer tremendous memory loss - leaves you in pain - causes organ failure - leaves you incapacitated in performing every day tasks if they told you TV you're buying has 50% of chance of working, would you buy it? but you will electrocute your brain, with only 50% chance of that curing your disease? and in those 50% cases, they are still not mentioning the side-effects. it is ridiculous that this treatment is legal.

@Yourmomsdadsface 4 года назад

I had my last ECT session last May, it completely changed how my brain forms memories, but it worked! It was like a miracle, but i can't talk about it because people have their opinions on something they've never gone through. It was so hard to go through, I wish people would just be happy for me.

@leomarkaable1 3 года назад

Why didn't the doctor who shocked you volunteer for a few? Wouldn't that make it really special?

@guillermodeleon6210 3 года назад

I am happy for you!

@Maranatha7557 3 года назад

I am happy for you that it was so successful. God bless.

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@pilariglesias3162 2 года назад

It's a risky treatment, a Russian roulette.

@RubenAders 5 лет назад

I personally have had ECT Therapy for my severe case of catatonic psychosis 5 years ago now. I've had About 15 sessions in total. The biggest drawbacks for me were my affected memory and decreased mobility. After a few years now I'll just have to cope with the fact I lost a lot of memories. Childhood memories, intellect and mental capacity were most affected. Only my memories can't be trained. I also noticed after a couple of months addressing my muscles felt like I was 80. I noticed it when I, for the first time in my life, tried to ride a hoverboard in a sports store. Something trivial to a young man. But I had a lot of trouble balancing, my muscles didn't do what I wanted them to do. They just needed to be stable. That was almost impossible then. I also lost about three years of skiing skills (three years is three vacations/weeks of course). My parents said the therapy helped a lot. They almost instantly saw improvements. They would sure have felt glad, but for the longest period I couldn't. All by all I'm glad I'm not as sick as I used to be, even if I'm still using some strong medication. That's story on it's own. I do feel glad now. even if it took me two years to feel that way.

@worrywirt 5 лет назад

Ruben Aders that’s terrible, I’m so sorry you had to lose so much for it to work. I constantly live in the past so if I lost my memories, my world would end. Regardless, I’m glad you’re feeling better now, even if it was hard to get here

@asielmilian38 5 лет назад

Sorry you had to deal with that but I hope you can improve yourself.

@chriscurley7977 5 лет назад

A friend of mine forgot all of the songs she knew.

@djb903 5 лет назад

Thank you for sharing, you're very brave

@hannahc.rosenblatt7044 5 лет назад

thanks for sharing

@BumanHeing 5 лет назад

I wish ted ed lecturers visit my school and show my teachers the true art of teaching

@bonnieaprillollipoptrigger6516 5 лет назад

Ohho!😂😂😂He won't

@randompersonyoumightknow2118 5 лет назад

You know, Ted Ed is created by students. You could make your own!

@iwillnotcomply007 5 лет назад

I play these videos for my students - only a handful appreciate them. Most of them complain, roll their eyes, etc. Maybe it's not the teachers at your school that are the problem.

@iwillnotcomply007 5 лет назад

@@shravyac5778 personal responsibility has become a rare thing for many students. I don't think I've had one student this year admit they are the reason for their current predicament. I've had many blame their circumstances, other people, etc. Unsurprisingly, none have yet to correctly self-identify the real problem. In order to correct your situation, you must first acknowledge the problem and then seek a solution. Personal anecdote - I took a few classes in college taught by less than stellar professors. I went to the lectures of other professors that I felt were better. I watched classes posted online by MIT. I wanted to learn, so I did. Contrast that with the typical student that shuns Khan Academy or makes outlandish and inappropriate comments towards presenters like Tyler DeWitt - all because they abhor learning. The current climate/culture of celebrity worship does not mesh well with excellence in learning. There will always be teachers that you don't like, but ultimately you are doing yourself no favors by letting your own opinions/prejudices determine the outcome. You will be much better off if you can learn to self-examine objectively.

@latinoheat300 5 лет назад

I wish your teachers be like "I wish I had a student who showed me the true art of learning"...

@safir2241 5 лет назад

How does your team still put out this many videos

@TEDEd 5 лет назад

We love what we do! :)

@ouh8759 5 лет назад

🤑

@chasetuttle2780 5 лет назад

Alex & Rah Kurzgesagt has a consistent art style. I believe you’re thinking of The School Of Life.

@TheBenenene10 5 лет назад

By having web MD sources.

@chasetuttle2780 5 лет назад

Alex & Rah Ah, my bad :)

@LanghaarDK 5 лет назад

Misleading title, the truth is we do not know why it works,period. all those it didnt help still are left with the side-effects. its a last resort not a solution.

@kelseyfarrow5289 4 года назад

Yep. And that's what happened with this guy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v-XpJw054d4.html

@lubystkaolamonola529 5 месяцев назад

Maybe same way like turning think off and then on.

@lauraeager373 5 лет назад

I had ECT 3 years ago and despite its controversy (and parents’ fear), it greatly helped my severe depression. My mood was extremely low, didn’t respond to meds or therapy, and suicidal thoughts. It’s nothing like in the movies or One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest - it’s painless. It did take some time for my symptoms to improve but I didn’t have severe memory loss. The only bad thing about my ECT experience was how arrogant and absent the doctor I initially consulted with was.

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How have you been since?

@heiliger_sturm Год назад

These medications also ruin lives.

@pbufh Год назад

She ded

@skittlepuff 2 года назад

I wish I could thank that nurse in real life for being so brave and fighting for others. A true medical professional right there

@ANlMO 5 лет назад

Could you do "The truth about LASIK" too. Many people including me would want to know more about it. Most sources on the same are either too difficult to understand or leave out loads of info.

@elperroreggae 5 лет назад

Even though it could be beneficial, it has plenty of shortcomings. I'd like they talk about improving vision naturally, which is getting broader, and it's getting scientifically accepted. That's the future of vision improvement I'd say.

@ANlMO 5 лет назад

@Unbreakable Patches 1. An animated video of what exactly does the laser sent in the eye do to cure myopia, hypermetropia and presbyopia. 2. Is it safe. What are the side effects or what damage it could cause? 3. Requirements to get it done Mainly pt 1 though.

@ANlMO 5 лет назад

@Unbreakable Patches Flap related complications!!?? Sounds terrifying.

@ANlMO 5 лет назад

@Unbreakable Patches I know the structure of cornea and the working of lenses. It was wrong on your part to assume I didn't. Thanks for the info though.

@3800S1 5 лет назад

Every person I know that has had it done said it was the best decision they ever had.

@idajohansen9106 4 года назад

ECT have saved my life. I had them when I was 19, 24, and 27 (ish) and about 80 treatments together. It's tough but It works 💜

@MissPurdy730 4 года назад

Hi! Would you be willing to discuss your experience with ECT? I am considering this treatment and would like to hear other people's stories.

@Alex-dk8dl 4 года назад

I start ECT next week. Thanks for sharing.

@deedee7780 3 года назад

What was hard about it? I am reading so many negative reviews on here. I am on the list to get it done, but now I am scared!

@gregb9264 2 года назад

@@Alex-dk8dl how did it go?

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

@@deedee7780 Did you eventually have ECT?

@HobbesHobbiton 5 лет назад

Great video, but I feel as if you should've addressed *why* there is a stigma against ECT, and how it was negatively used.

@abdou4alg 5 лет назад

Hobbes Hobbiton that stigma arouse because we don't know what ECT is doing, and that's a dangerous thing! ... we had a similar case before in psychiatry with lobotomy

@gothnerd887 5 лет назад

I thought the negative stigma came from Return to Oz

@TheRealLange21 5 лет назад

They used to use too much electricity and fried their brains back in the day

@jaycdp 4 года назад

Concern is real forget the stigma

@kingxhxmrn5r 3 года назад

@@doberman8450 so how come u still remember that u had many head injury including skull fracture...?

@kikkasluca 5 лет назад

My uncle have done it, it was like a zombie. It didn't work at all for him.

@nicolemiller7975 Год назад

I’ve been doing ect since january of 2022 and i’m glad i am, i’ve been able to stop taking one of my medications because i no longer need it and my bi polar is in complete check, this is the first time in 4 years that i have had relief in my bi polar.

@paulgee8253 3 года назад

My brother checked out ECT after this TED. He was profoundly depressed with bi-polar and had tried all meds. It took him a fair # of treatments but profoundly improved his condition. 10 months on he is doing great. No meds and doing great. Living his life again vs not able to get out of bed. Yeah, there’s some side-effects but deep depression is more awful by far.

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How is he now?

@adallie 4 месяца назад

Where did he go for his treatment?

@maciecs3263 4 года назад

I care for my severely depressed husband who is obsessed with planning his suicide. He is drug resistant so his doctors recommend Ect as the last resort. We decided to try this despite of short term memory loss which we should try to treat by some means afterwards. I would rather a forgetful husband than be a widow 🙁

@deedee7780 3 года назад

:( Sorry to hear that!! Did he start the ECT treatments?

@cupofjoen 3 года назад

Hi, are you still alive?

@avery-brown 3 года назад

How did it go?

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How did it go?

@denisehuxham2889 5 лет назад

I had severe memory loss and was unable to function in my work and even remember streets in my suburb. It is years later and I still have gaps in my memory and it feels like my brain turned into an Ementaler cheese. It set me back

@LongTranQuoc 5 лет назад

Denise Huxham sounds like a great way to forget an ex!

@kyrlics6515 4 года назад

@@LongTranQuoc lmao

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@downhomesunset Год назад

@@ahmedfraz8324 I have permanent holes in my memory because of ECTs. I also have ataxia-where I suddenly lose the ability to remember a certain word. It’s frustrating and embarrassing; I’m a highly intelligent person……. Talk to many people before you decide. It may have become better controlled in the last 25 years!

@downhomesunset Год назад

Denise-same here. I’m so angry that a temporary four month cure for depression has made me worse in the long run!

@angelmonique6177 10 месяцев назад

ECT has changed my life for the better and I am forever grateful ❤️

@haroldnmaude422 4 года назад

I have had ECT treatments 3 times. 6 sessions each. They blast away my bipolar depression. It was a last resort option and I am lucky that it works for me. Around the 3rd session, I start to feel my sadness and heaviness lift. I have had no horrible side effects. I began treatment because I was a fan of Carrie Fisher and she gets ECT. I get upkeep treatments yearly. I would rather go get ECT than go to the dentist. You go, you can do outpatient. You get in your hostpital gown, get an iv put in, your wheeled into a room on a gurney bed, they give you anesthesia and you wake up wondering if it happened already. You can be home and napping in like 2 hours. I know that a lot of people have had bad experiences. It is not for everyone. But it saved me and Ive seen it happen to others. I don't know why it works. Something with seizures? I ironically take an anti seizure medication for my depression. Who knows. Read Carrie Fisher's book on it, Kitty Dukakis has a book on it- do research on hospitals. Some hospitals have wards just for ECT. Vanderbilt in Nashville does. It is certainly a last resort but at that point no matter what happened, I didn't care because I just wanted to be dead and living was exhaustive and hurt. Will I lose my memory with time? Probably but it zaps my depression away which kicks out my anxiety and life is livable again.

@saransaran7038 Год назад

Bro I have OCD fast five years can I go for this treatment

@janfyhrholdt2788 Год назад

"I began treatment because I was a fan of Carrie Fisher and she gets ECT" Carrie Fisher died 2016 at only 60 years old. And she still gets ECT? By the time you wrote this, Fisher was dead since 4 years. Please dont recommend any medical threatment to others. You should become a member of some crasy church instead and settle with that.

@Malaowieczka996 2 года назад

I had 19 sessions and it changed my life, my brain. I would be dead if it weren't for ect curing me. It reset my brain/erasing my neuro connections and during these sessions I went to therapy 3x a week to create good coping skills and thought processes. It made me open to know what was my behaviors and thoughts vs my chemical imbalance. Later I got prescribed Lithium (I'm bipolar) and I've been 100% mentally well ever since. I recommend ect, despite the memory loss and side effects. It works.

@_lil.diva_2933 2 года назад

Hii my mom is Doing it and im really scared

@Malaowieczka996 2 года назад

@@_lil.diva_2933 don't worry, Ariana, it really does help! It might give her small side effects like headache or dry mouth which are annoying. But it's really effective and SAFE!!! the doctors, crnas and nurses work really hard to ensure a safe, non traumatic procedure. It's over in 5 minutes! :)

@kadiraltay1244 2 года назад

This is amazing

@versatilehumanbeing6013 2 года назад

@@Malaowieczka996 i am suffering from severe ocd and anxiety my mind is tormenting me currently taking meds from past one month havent seen any change really suffering😔

@mariusz1489 2 года назад

Hej, Kasia. Mówisz po Polsku, bo ja słabo rozumiem po angielsku. Od 10 lat choruję na depresję i chciałbym zapytać o ect.....będę wdzięczny za odp

@jakejackson2670 3 года назад

I had ECT in 2017, it saved my life. My memory of that month or so isn't perfect, no other long-term side effects though. I understand I'm extremely lucky, just wanted to share that it really can do a lot of good.

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@nabilc1667 2 года назад

Ahmed, I suffer from chonic depression too for 6 years now. I'm sorry to hear you are struggling with it too. I have found something that helped me alot to understand more deeply what I am experiencing. 2 names: Daniel Backler and Gabor Maté.

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How are you now?

@jasmineshk1924 Год назад

Have you forget depressive memory

@viofrostline9289 5 лет назад

This is my expression to school. 0:42

@rosie10118 5 лет назад

Same😂

@BumanHeing 5 лет назад

LMAO

@josgeerink1254 5 лет назад

😂😂😂

@StayVCA98 5 лет назад

School and my past failures are the reasons why i have depression, sooo i pretty hate it, but now I'm struggling in college more than ever.....

@BumanHeing 5 лет назад

CVince A...whole life is a struggle

@gardenhead92 5 лет назад

Small nitpick: you shouldn't show an electron moving between neurons. The charge is carried by positive atomic ions, not negatively-charged electrons

@mahela1993 5 лет назад

Well it's actually a wave of depolarisation of the membrane. I don't think charge actual flows along the neuron

@cupofjoen 3 года назад

Should you animate for them instead. Try email them.

@thomasoring 5 лет назад

ECT turned my friend into an emotionally dead zombie. She used to go to swinger clubs, party, laugh and smile. Now she can't even remember who she used to be. No initiative, not much emotion, dead facial expressions. It's horrible to watch, because she's the numb one, while I had to watch a personality die slowly.

@flimcomedy7667 4 года назад

Does she work? Is she still here mentally? Cause I'd just like to be a bit normal or at least better version of myself now.

@l2516 4 года назад

But if she was such a joyful person, why did she have ECT in the first place?

@joeldecoster8816 4 года назад

@@l2516 MAYBE THET SAID SHE WAS MANIC and given to her against her will

@l2516 4 года назад

@@joeldecoster8816 I don't think it happens often anymore to give it against someone's will. Especially not in first world countries.

@joeldecoster8816 4 года назад

@@l2516 howestly , you would hope so, but its true, i know , dont for one minute that anyone has a choice ,

@Blido 5 лет назад

Pardon my english) What a bunch of nonsense. A propaganda film, I was once in an open department of a psychiatric hospital and I met people after ECT. Everyone was like zombies, indifferent, apathetic. They could not focus even on the simplest tasks within the framework of rehabilitation, such as painting Christmas baubles. They shook their hands, smashed the baubles on the floor. They talked about how they had to learn about their family after ECT because they did not remember them. I am expressing this conclusion that due to ECT man loses his identity, he is no longer himself, he is something else. It's like killing a man and introducing the soul of someone else into his body. A barbaric, cruel method is nothing but legal torture. The very fact that in the Soviet Union ECT was commonly used to erase the memory of uncomfortable people, and in combination with psychedelic drugs they made obedient dolls with which the criminal regime could do what he wanted. Never disagree with ECT! After ECT, your self-awareness dies, in other words, as if you were dead. So what can they help? You will not experience this improvement because after using ECT in your body there will be a "different man".

@arnicepernice8656 4 года назад

Blido your English is excellent and perfectly explains the trauma of the patient and their family too

@hephaestus9901 3 года назад

You are deranged and have no idea what you're talking about

@FolstrimHori 3 года назад

How much are you getting paid to electrocute patients?

@dljve 3 года назад

as someone who has received ect it is pure torture, and their methodology is flawed as the after care is highly suggestive and patients are traumatized and conditioned by ect to give certain answers. E.g. making them numb so they score lower on a depression test, but that is because their actual feelings of depression are repressed because a new trauma is introduced. ECT is sadistic and an example of where science fails. No doctor would ever voluntarily take an ECT to test whether it's safe. If you wouldn't do it to yourself you also shouldn't do it to your patients

@downhomesunset Год назад

@@dljve After an ECT session, I was wheeled back into the main corridor of the psych ward, and left there for anyone to gawk at. I hadn’t even fully woken up yet. One memory that I will always remember because my father heard about it and did a formal complaint. I had no way of getting anyone’s attention until a good friend walked by and asked me why I was there. It was her who told my dad, and angrily stomped to the nurses’ desk to get someone to wheel my bed back to my room so I could recover in relative privacy. I don’t remember much about it myself except waking up without knowing why or where I was. My dad managed to get a settlement from the hospital…..

@ronnienowlan3641 3 года назад

I had 17 treatments of etc. It saved my life but destroyed my memories and problem solving skills. Pretty 50/50 with positives and negatives

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

Did some cognitive skills come back?

@adallie 4 месяца назад

Where did you get it done?

@ronnienowlan3641 4 месяца назад

@@AudriusAlkauskassome but not all

@ronnienowlan3641 4 месяца назад

@@adallieAlberta mental hospital

@adallie 4 месяца назад

@@ronnienowlan3641 thank you. I think im going to get it at the Cleveland Clinic. It’s hard to find first hand accounts

@cookindjstu 5 лет назад

ECT has ruined the life of my partner due to the side effects. After researching this treatment, much your info is inaccurate. There are many which have been severely and adversely affected by this treatment in recent years. much is due to doctors that don't follow correct procedures because of the confusion and lack of knowledge of how ECT affects the body. I bet if we look into funding on this "lesson" we can find the companies trying to sell this as an at home product are very involved.

@Minon157 5 лет назад

"much is due to doctors that don't follow correct procedures" - Then in a way this is more related to mediocre doctors than the treatment itself.

@tristanduff 4 года назад

I've had good results using ECT to treat my depression when medicines failed. Aside from a headache the day of, and sometimes the day after, it's been a game changer for me.

@JakeThaGreat001 4 года назад

Did it make you forget your bad memory

@deedee7780 3 года назад

I am on a waitlist. I am reading so many bad stories. I hope I don't end up with severe memory loss. The doctor told me that I will have a headache after and that severe side-effects were very rare. I am wondering if most of the negative comments are from Americans who have had it done by less knowledgeable/private practice doctors.

@jpmcfluffies9451 3 года назад

@@deedee7780 Please keep us posted! I may have to go this route. Did you try TMS first? I am pursuing this at the moment, but may have to try the ECT if this doesn't work. Thanks!

@deedee7780 3 года назад

@@jpmcfluffies9451 I was on the list for TMS, but because of Covid the wait list is really long, so now I am waiting for the ECT. Did you have any TMS sessions yet?

@jpmcfluffies9451 3 года назад

@@deedee7780 Not yet. I am dealing with my insurance company is will cover next to nothing for it. I live in Bermuda where mental health benefits overseas is next to nothing. Very sad. Please do keep me posted! Best of luck to you

@ladawnhardnett863 2 года назад

My mother told me they used to do that to her when she was in foster care. She had a horrible childhood. She moved out of her hometown away from family, it wasn't until she started taking us to visit that she started to remember some on the things that went on. I think it's a temporary fix to a life time of issues

@koolkatastrophe6153 Год назад

Sometimes people do have to get it long term BUT not nearly as frequently

@eljn0323 5 лет назад

I had 10 treatments of ECT... didn't help at all.

@sanub4830 4 года назад

How are you now?

@stupidlypotato9646 4 года назад

You poor thing! This thing killed my grandma..

@sanub4830 3 года назад

@josephine donatella gloria viola ciano Oh so you believe in God don't you. That's good.

@cupofjoen 3 года назад

You should tell the doctor to install a new memory

@Alia-bc3rc 5 лет назад

Back in 70s, my dad did some practice study in asylum while he's studying psychology. He saw the patient that given this treatment just changed into empty vessel after it. Very traumatizing experience just to watch it, he told me.

@arnicepernice8656 4 года назад

Alia Ris Please speak out. Many of us are brain damaged and have no rehabilitation. Are still depressed but no with memory problems and worse

@cupofjoen 3 года назад

Now, If try this treatment because I'm an empty vessel, would it be filled or what?

@sunshineyrainbows13 3 года назад

@@cupofjoen There must be another way. I have MDD severe, recurrent w/ psychotic symptoms. But even as low as I value myself, this treatment is too extreme. There is no scientific basis as to WHY it even works. That's scary.

@cupofjoen 3 года назад

@@sunshineyrainbows13 we gotta learn to love ourselves. Unfortunately at my age (19) it's kinda too late if I have to learn to love myself since it was my parents job to teach me (but they didn't, I'm from broken home). So, to learn to love myself, I need to start from zero again. Goddammit.

@hobocode 3 года назад

I've had it and he is correct. I got it in the early 2000's when it was supposed to be better. Not.

@robkocol5664 5 лет назад

"ECT make a difference when ALL ELSE fails." However, in today's healthcare it's a big money maker making it a 'go to' much sooner than it should be. It will definitely change someone often NOT returning someone to their very pleasant, (before -depression), former self. That person /personality may be gone forever.

@rebeccab1064 3 года назад

Source?

@robkocol5664 2 года назад

@@rebeccab1064 What do think? My own eyes and ears!!! After, 32 medically abusive treatments approved by her doctor and miserable husband (after she told him she wanted to leave and divorce), she NOW struggles to keep a thought in her head or put together a sentence when speaking!! Get your head out of the clouds, Rebecca.

@BullCricket75 4 года назад

I'm starting my second round of ECT in two years. I hope it goes better this time. The headaches after treatment before were unbearable and I still have major memory loss, but my overall mental health has been much better.

@jonathanclouse7139 4 года назад

I wish you the best of luck. I've had to undergo a few rounds myself, but I am now back to work, and have been stable on just meds alone now for a full year. Something that is a big change for me. Talk to your doctor about the headaches and/or any nausea after treatments as they can give IV medications (Toradol and Zofran) pre-treatment to help with them.

@sanub4830 4 года назад

@@jonathanclouse7139 you are right I want to remove my past memories, it only fills me with sad, depression, suicidal thoughts. Not telling much. The lost of girl I loved, The lost ones, Negligence, Humiliation, And other. I also suffering daydreaming which is maladaptive disorder. These are affect my jobs, other works and study I can't focus it. I want to forget them. I try on my own but I can't. When I was age 17 I attempt to suicide several time. My relatives try take me to mental hospital, doctors suggest me to take some ect. But my parents refuse and take me back to home. Now I'm 25, I'm still suffering depression. There is nothing good in my past. So i don't want to let them ruin my present.

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

@@jonathanclouse7139 How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@Sarablueunicorn 2 года назад

@@ahmedfraz8324 It's still used as punishment in many mental wards around the globe. I've seen it with my own eyes. ECT was created by sadists, as majority of people in mental health field are, and it's still being used without no research or scientifical evidence at all. At this point, they are like, let's just give you a traumatic experience, like an electric shock to the brain and see if you forget what causes your depression/psychosis/mood disregulation.

@idolina76 3 года назад

I was offered theis treatment for severe depressions and PTSD. I said no for a long time. At one point I was so depressed I couldn't think straight, they got me to agree. I received 10 ECTsessions. It had absolutely NO effect, and to this day, years later, I have huge gaps in my memory. I can't think as fast or as good anymore. People should be aware that this can have serious side-effects!

@kat4truth396 3 года назад

My family member had this to get her out of severe postpartum psychosis and it really worked well.

@pingas3631 4 года назад

After my first and only section of ECT, I slept an entire day and started having a lot of problems with my memory (I started having problems finishing sentences while talking, forgetting how to write some words wich I always used in texts, not remembering names...) wich I have to this day. I hope no one else suffers with this symptons after the treatment.

@residentevil999 3 года назад

How are you doing now ? Still had the side effect ?

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How are you doing nowadays?😅

@pingas3631 Год назад

@@AudriusAlkauskas depression came back and I was diagnosed with autism; turns out, the psychiatrist made a mistake by misdiagnosing me with bipolar disorder and the need for electroconvulsive therapy. I'm fine with the new meds as they don't mess with my memory nor my speech pattern. The side effects from ect however are long gone and the only thing that won't come back is some memories from far back in my memory brain card

@enviousleaf123 5 лет назад

It would be interesting to see if a placebo treatment of ECT would result in similar results. I mean you are knocked out for the procedure. You wouldn't know that your brain was hit with electricity or not. The pure concept of thinking you had your brain fried with the hope and expectation that you went under this crazy therapy could, in theory, change your personal outlook on life without you even actually have received the treatment in the first place.

@Echidna7095 4 года назад

This study has been done Look up Dr Peter Breggin's website for the scientific information on ECT

@briannamundwiller7500 4 года назад

That’s is a great idea! Would be awesome if they could do studies on it

@amandacar5679 3 года назад

@@Echidna7095 thank you!!

@deedee7780 3 года назад

They would never put anything into practice unless they do a placebo test. That goes for every medical treatment and drug!

@cruellacontradiction254 3 года назад

That wouldn't be effective. Because sometimes the patient is not informed and the treatment works.

@miawallace2306 3 года назад

My good friend’s daughter has suffered severely with SMI beginning in her late teens. No exaggeration, she tried to take her own life 11 times over the course of 8 years. No medications, behavioral therapies or in-treatment centers could help her. About 5 years ago, she tried ECT. At 1st it was 2 times a week, then once a week, and then eventually, it dwindled to twice a month and now once a month. She has even had months where she could skip it entirely because she is familiar enough with her disease, she knows when she needs to go in. She’s 31 now and engaged to an awesome man who also gets ECT treatments. They met in a group therapy session. Both are employed and maintain perfectly healthy lives. Of course they admit to still having ‘off’ days but they absolutely swear by the success of this treatment. It’s frustrating that movies and general society has demonized it so much. When administered properly, ECT can literally save lives.

@Melkor0410 2 года назад

Such a happy ending..

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How have they been since?

@siddhantkamble291 5 лет назад

Wow this voice is so dominant and satisfying at the same time!

@Thatgrungekid 3 года назад

After I gave birth to my son at 18 I experienced postpartum psychosis and I was in the middle of getting diagnosed with bipolar disorder I was offered ECT but turned it down. Luckily medication has saved me

@icedbunn89 5 лет назад

An amazingly positive video for a treatment that came from doctors experimenting on vulnerable people and psychiatry has no idea why it works (like pretty much all of the biological interventions in mental health). I love this channel, but sometimes they really dress up conjecture as fact

@tool_fighter 2 года назад

I especially love "mild electronic signal". If it was so mild, it would not induce grand mal seizures. Think getting punched in the head by Mike Tyson...

@ctrlaltcreate3827 2 года назад

This procedure is in the same ballpark as lobotomies

@ASJones-re2oe 2 года назад

Ooooo! Nice use of conjecture! I love it when RU-vid comments show their big brain words! Fr, fr.

@ASJones-re2oe 2 года назад

@@tool_fighter ... Uh... That's not in any way similar... Catastrophic blunt force trauma V/S exterior electric introduction to the nervous system. Nope. Not speaking to results, just saying... One of these things is not like the other

@TheHawk5110 2 года назад

Conjecture? Like the research and development to show the positive outcomes of modern ECT? You just hear what you want to hear. Try to think critically for once

@skyeshore5704 5 лет назад

"We still don't really know why it works... but since 50% and 'maybe more' subjects said it helped them, we'll keep doing it despite the memory loss." Who uses a statistic like that? Seems like a treatment modeled after the shotgun in the way that it floods the brain with impulses in hopes that some unknown target gets positively affected.

@jarls5890 5 лет назад

A colleague of mine told me about a patient who came in a state of full on rigid body "arching" catalepsy. Unresponsive to any medication. The man was basically one rigid arch of muscles. After one ECT session - the man walked out of the hospital.

@michiman2219 5 лет назад

@@jarls5890 somebody once told me that if I ate many banananas I would rejuvenate, the guy claimed a friend of his worked in an asylum where an oldman started to ate bananas and became strong AF.

@ModelingTabi 4 года назад

@Imperfection Perfected wow im so sorry

@squirtlett7369 3 года назад

@@michiman2219 BAHAHA

@ASJones-re2oe 2 года назад

The classification as"soft sciences" allows for less than rigorous scientific testing/experimentation.

@RedLP5000S 3 года назад

I have MDD, chronic anxiety and OCD. I have tried SSRIs, Benzodiazepines, CBT, PHP, TMS, and Esketamine. Nothing works. I feel that I may eventually commit suicide if all else fails. I cannot fathom living out the rest of my life this way. One procedure that I haven't tried yet is ECT. Of all the methods of treatment that science offers today, that is the one I fear most. I may have to rethink my understanding of it and give it a try. The alternative is a lifetime of mental anguish.

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How are you now?

@cathyzhu9240 2 года назад

I’m about to do this to treat my depression. Finally made this decision after years of suffering.

@lioness2000 2 года назад

How was it? I´m thinking of maybe trying it for my depression, talked about it with my doctor

@pbufh Год назад

She died

@cathyzhu9240 Год назад

@@pbufh I recovered...

@adallie 4 месяца назад

Where did you get your treatment?

@augustusgloop8574 Год назад

They don't know how this works and it comes with severe, even life debilitating effects. ECT is not new or improved. Giving a person a seizure is torture. The legality and heavy administration of this "therapy" is one of the reasons I never want to be hospitalized for my depression. Psych wards are at best holding pens for people in crisis to save themselves, and at worst prisons. No matter what, you cannot refuse treatment if you ever want to regain your freedom. If ECT was banned in my area, It would give me trust in the psychiatric system. Until then, there is no trust. You cannot be pushing this onto patients and claim you're medically helping them. ECT belongs in the dustbin of psychiatry along with lobotomies and insulin shock therapy.

@ThatClinicalInstructor 4 года назад

GREAT video, TedEd! I had 6 rounds of ECT in 2008, and it absolutely saved my life. I was so badly lost into a major depression and nothing was working. I wasn't able to take care of myself or my children. After the 6 sessions I had, I was a new girl! I do have some memory loss and can be a little bit forgetful occasionally, but those are my only side effects. Now I'm a successful healthcare provider and a clinical educator as well! I'm living my dream life, so happy and healthy. ECT isn't for everyone, but it is an option that can save lives.

@MissPurdy730 4 года назад

Could you explain the extent of your memory loss??

@ThatClinicalInstructor 4 года назад

@@MissPurdy730 sure! So in the beginning it was more severe. I had both some long term memory loss and difficulty with short term memory. I had no memory of my son's first year of life at all, which was really hard. But, over the last 5 years or so, I've gotten a good amount of that memory back! I am still missing parts of it, but what's more important than having memories of him as a baby? Him having a healthy mom there for him NOW that he's 13 years old. My short term memory loss is more like me just being airheaded and forgetful at times now. Where the heck did I sit my car keys? Where are my glasses? Why did I come into this room? Although I'm not sure how much of it is ECT and how much is me being in my 40s lol. My kids (13 & 15) know they have to remind me of things a few times if it's gonna stick with me. They help me find the things I misplace. But otherwise? That's pretty much it! I'm a healthcare instructor, nurse, and EMT. All of my licenses/certifications are current, I practice medicine (and teach it!) on a daily basis with absolutely no problems whatsoever. It's interesting, with the exception of not remembering my child's first year, all of my memory loss seems to be stuff that doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. With regard to my occupation, my knowledge and skills are sharper than ever. Pretty amazing to think that 12 years ago I couldn't even get out of bed, care for myself, or care for my children.

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

@@ThatClinicalInstructor Nice to hear success stories! How are you now?

@adallie 4 месяца назад

Where did you get your treatment?

@ReadingswithDebbie 4 года назад

It worked for me and gave me my life back. Begged to have it again but was is practically impossible to get in the UK unless you're in hospital :(

@tammycoppedge8615 5 лет назад

Depression is a real illness not something one can snap out of depression can ruin families and take the lives of our young people I believe one should do what works for them so I'm sending prayers out to all those suffering from depression

@bulatgaynullin677 5 лет назад

I don't know why, but this outro music makes me feel so uplifted, really deeping mindful satisfaction from this lessons. sorry for my English

@justinedodge4179 3 года назад

I was in the hospital about two years ago because of my depression. I have 12 ECT treatments and it didn't seem to help. Actually, my memory has gotten a lot worse and I felt just as bad as I did before. I'm not saying don't get ECT, I'm just saying that it works differently for everyone and be aware of the side effects.

@DejaMiru 5 лет назад

this feels like the equivalent of hitting the TV until it works.. no one knows why, it just does..

@TrippleA100 4 года назад

Yah but depending on the tv, it might break. You can’t buy another human

@sunshineyrainbows13 3 года назад

Doctors treating our brains like replaceable electronics is terrifying.

@ASJones-re2oe 2 года назад

Uh... Stop hitting your tv.

@AndrejBk 3 года назад

I had it recently (last one this monday), 6 in total, it worked great on my MDD and partial PTSD, worsened greatly by this whole virus situation, I was barely sleeping and eating at the end

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@AndrejBk 3 года назад

@@ahmedfraz8324 a little short term memory loss, but it eventually came back, after 4 sessions I was feeling much better and I am still feeling OK

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How are you now?

@AndrejBk Год назад

@@AudriusAlkauskas so far still good

@firebow2810 5 лет назад

Very interesting. I wonder who came up with the idea to shock people's brains to help relieve symptoms of depression and why they thought it was a good idea.

@ayoesther6042 5 лет назад

FireBow the scientist who discovered it noticed that his patients who later developed a seizure disorder had improved outcomes from catatonic schizophrenia, and other psychiatric illnesses.

@firebow2810 5 лет назад

@@ayoesther6042 Fascinating, thanks for replying :)

@elianny9187 5 лет назад

I think it was when they first discovered that human neurons work through electric and chemical stimuli. So they started studying the chemistry and treating mental illnesses with chemicals (drugs), and some wanted to treat them with electricity as a way to "recharge" the brain and restart it in some way. That's what I'm assuming.

@kelseyfarrow5289 4 года назад

Actually, it was first used on animals before slaughter. They noticed that it "stunned" the animals and made them more "docile." The information in this video might be true to some degree, but here's the real scoop: www.cchr.org/ban-ect/the-truth-about-electroshock/the-birth-of-ect.html

@deedee7780 3 года назад

@@ayoesther6042 Cool. Thanks for the info!

@kodoy 5 лет назад

IMHO it's not responsible to do a "quick talk" on one of the most dangerous medical procedures there are and not cite any source/papers/data of any kind. A quick look at the comments will let you know that most people just eat your videos up as truth and probably don't care to do any research. Regardless of the actual effectiveness and potential of ECT (which I believe to be quite real), it's a very delicate subject and something that clearly should only be attempted as a last resort. It'd do good to further explain WHY there's such a negative stigma about it - its dangers are real and quite unpredictable (yes, even today). You shouldn't make an impressionistic video about such a highly controversial and delicate topic without being extremely thorough and impartial - otherwise you might risk alienating your audience, in a way that might be potentially damaging to some. or am I alone in thinking this lol

@JanisFroehlig 5 лет назад

It does get the conversation going. It's hard to say where the balance is between getting things moving and forcefully directing its trajectory. Maybe Google will get on board and check out the comments.... They (OK, the algorithms) are the ones directing conversations, right? I do agree with you, though. This needs more than a quick touch. Links in the dooblydoo on something like this should be a bare minimum. That wouldn't be forcing any horses to drink. Thank you for bringing ethics into the education conversation. We as a species seem to think that all learning is good, and then scratch our heads when things go haywire. There are a great number of people who don't know how to process information to a productive (non-)end, and those of us who kinda have the hang of it can't figure out what's going on.

@exscape 5 лет назад

Since this is a fairly scientifically minded channel, would you mind linking to a few credible studies backing up your claims?

@Rukai 5 лет назад

That might be a good idea actually, it would be great if they can add a list of references to each of their talk, including those on history, basic sciences and social sciences. Maybe you can start and show them the rope? I think it must be a big task to cover a large and divisive topic for a less than 5 minutes videos while putting it in plain language for the general public. Sounds like it's certainly sparked a conversation

@simonkaroly1 5 лет назад

If you're so annoyed at the lack of sources go do some research yourself...the literature is fairly undivided on ECT (spoiler alert: it's arguably the safest and most effective option for treatment-resistant depression). IMHO, with recent developments like unilateral, ultra-brief pulse ECT--I think it should be a first-line treatment. Unfortunately, all the treatment options for mental illness are fairly lacking and the risks and side-effects of psychopharmacological treatments are grossly understated.

@noix666dezephir 5 лет назад

I understand what you're saying. And in truth I would tend to agree with you. However I must also say that if some people deem that a 4:24 minutes video is enough to understand a subject without going further and do some research and don't see that these videos are made to give to their audience general ideas on several subjects, and in the process start a conversation, then they're idiots in the first place lol

@jimthepyroful 5 лет назад

This procedure has given someone in my family permanent short term memory loss and caused them to have seizures. Screw this treatment.

@JustinY. 5 лет назад

This is the power of my stand *{RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS]*

@sebastianelytron8450 5 лет назад

Tired of this. RU-vid need to take action.

@Snapmare_ 5 лет назад

**there goes my hero plays in the distance**

@nicholasgerry6931 5 лет назад

😑

@novelnouvel 5 лет назад

Did you even go to sleep?

@ediwow9741 5 лет назад

Justin why ?

@stephhhineee362 5 лет назад

My mom had this treatment. She is kind of not there anymore. Might be from the medicine she is on though.

@ourochroma 5 лет назад

I'm sorry to hear that. There might be something that needs to be done about that.

@stephhhineee362 5 лет назад

@@ourochroma Thank you! She has regular appointments with her care team always working to find the right medicines and such.

@AaronSherman 5 лет назад

Depression medication can have severe personality impact. I'm glad that you say that she's regularly meeting with her caregivers to monitor the effects, but you should ask if you can go sometime as well. It helps to have family input on the effects of the medication.

@stephhhineee362 5 лет назад

@Moon Lit thank you! I will try to.

@stephhhineee362 5 лет назад

@05candyman thank you for your kind words!

@mmmk1616 5 лет назад

I am so grateful that my bipolar disease is treatable with medication :)

@deedee7780 3 года назад

It's not "treatable" it's just manageable. I recently was diagnosed with bipolar 2, and I still have my ups and downs. It's tiring. I am on the waitlist for ECT.

@mmmk1616 3 года назад

@@deedee7780 Ah, yes, you're right!

@AAA-fk9vq 2 года назад

@@deedee7780 Are you still on a wait list? Why is there a wait list? Asking because you're the only comment I've seen at this point who mentions Bipolar not depression.

@TheNickpatterson 2 года назад

@@deedee7780 did you do this, i was diagnosed w bipolar 2 a few months back and am on seroquel and prozac, but its been 4mo since ive had peace or joy. I took zoloft and it set me into really bad manic racing thought mode and still trying to recover, my psych brought up ect

@moniqueisabelmoon 2 года назад

aw man :( I received ECT for a few months around 3 years ago and it completely destroyed my memory to the point where it was doing way more harm than good and I stopped. Short term memory loss sucked for sure but it was super scary losing memories of the previous years and that was definitely worse. I sort of forgot who I was, and what I liked, and even who I was friends with, to a point. All of that I had to rebuild, for better or worse. Hearing stories, seeing pictures, visiting formerly familiar places, all helped me gather fragments of the memories lost. The administrating doctor, in response to my complaints, affirmed that memory loss was not an unexpected side affect but that it was not entirely irreversible, and that they would return somewhat exponentially as I began to fill in the gaps. To an extent, this has been true, but man was it damaging, and there are still a lot of memories from childhood and adolescence that are still lost and perhaps gone for good. !! I don't share this ton rag on ECT,, its helpful to around 50% of the people who receive it which is great!! However, Dr. Farell did sorta breeze past the long term memory bit and it uhhh sucked and still sucks

@jennawolf5713 2 года назад

It is strange how ECT is described as a generally safe treatment, but at the same time comments on how the therapy severely impacted the memory of some patients are alarming and unfortunately, I had difficulty finding trusted sources that mention it. Do you know where I can find more information about the subject?

@edwardhale4294 2 года назад

the question is...did it help your depresssion, the reason you had the treatment?

@btoy11 4 года назад

I was hospitalized for SEVERE clinical depression in 1985 and 2003. On both occasions ECT worked well for me and I was able to return to my normal healthy life. My doctor in 1985 told me not to be surprised if sometime in the future I would need to come 'into the pit stop' for another round of treatment. He was right. Depression plays tricks on our mind by "telling" us that the severe emotional PAIN will "remain for the rest of out lives". Depression is a liar. I was a crisis line volunteer for 2 years in the late 80's.

@DTvidsx20 2 года назад

What caused your severe clinical depressions? and ECT really allowed you to feel joy again?

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How have you been since?

@Edgypoo 5 лет назад

I've had 10 ect sessions done half a year ago (I'm 19) which didn't lift my severe depression for long enough time but I at least stopped having hallucinations, so I would still consider it a success. I still suffer from memory loss here and there and about 2 or 3 months after the treatment I had horrible problems concentrating and felt less intelligent but that's mostly gone by now. Honestly the experience wasnt too bad.

@corsad2010 2 года назад

What halluzinations did You have? Acoustic? Melodies?

@corsad2010 2 года назад

I will get ECT soon and I Hope my halluzinations Will Go away with this Treatment

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

How have you been since?

@weptun2050 4 месяца назад

Hey! Thank you for sharing. How are you doing now?

@atharvakokaje5818 5 лет назад

As a medical student, I was fascinated when I first saw this wonder treatment which could very well pull a patient from the grave depths of suicidal depression. We really need more awareness about it as this well may be the final choice that one may have at life

@Max-mm1sl 5 лет назад

My Dad was hosptilased for a year with severe depression after a serious suicide attempt. No Medication or therapy ever worked. ETC was the only thing that made any significant difference in helping his depression.

@Axolotlian 3 года назад

It's been life changing for me and I'm still in induction.

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@Axolotlian 3 года назад

@@ahmedfraz8324 I'm in maintenance phase as of right now and It has definitely been worth it. It's not a cure all but it has improved my quality of life significantly.

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

@@Axolotlian now he asking me to go for ECT and am very scared of it.

@Axolotlian 3 года назад

@@ahmedfraz8324 They put you under anesthesia and for me anyways the side effects are minor. But I can't say I relate because I wasn't really afraid because the depression was so bad that I was willing to try anything

@phantompunchmotorizedbikes1624 5 лет назад

I read a scientist said it's like operating on a computer with a chainsaw

@anabarnes4654 3 года назад

😂you dont even need to be a scientist to see that

@starcherry6814 5 лет назад

HALF??? Bruh! What about the other half??

@helciovitor 5 лет назад

ECT is the last resource when everything else failed. The fact that it works half of the time is still good news. Medicine is to advance and find out other treatments for that other half.

@gabrielrodriguez6157 4 года назад

You realize that first-line medication alone doesn’t even work for half of cases right? An improvement to normal life for HALF of patients with Major Depression is beyond a good result.

@dingo137 3 года назад

Half is still much better than the success rates for other treatments (for the patients that it's used for, i.e. treatment resistant depression).

@ThatClinicalInstructor 3 года назад

Do the half of us that it helped not count? Considering most first line treatments for severe psychiatric disorders don't work half of the time, I'd say half is pretty good. I'm SO grateful I was in that half that was lucky enough to be helped by ECT.

@Fiyaaaahh 5 лет назад

If it is really that benificial, why is it a last resort treatment?

@entpanimatics8070 4 года назад

Because of its more extreme side effects

@NovaxLova 3 года назад

EXACTLY

@SvetlanaMinina 4 года назад

I did 18 ect treatments, and i felt a little improvement with no long term side effects. I also saw several people, who recovered from it completely. Still,ect has its risks, and so does untreated severe depression. I talk about all of that in detail on my channel

@Jens-sl5je 4 года назад

I got also around 20 ect treatments i can Not Report Bad Side efects Overall i Know Looks Bad but its a Safe and effektive therapy...

@RAINBOWESANDDRUGS 2 года назад

ECT changed my life, I can't imagine a life with out it, I want to be alive now.

@AudriusAlkauskas Год назад

Did you have side effects?

@RAINBOWESANDDRUGS Год назад

@Audrius Alkauskas I do ECT once a week, at first it gave me headaches but I told the doctor that and he gives me stuff now before ECT that changes that, the only other thing is memory lose but it isn't that bad

@Altereddandelion 3 года назад

I just woke up from anesthesia after my 8th round of ECT. Its starting to work and I am currently on 8 medications as well. It is not like it is in horror movies.

@leomarkaable1 3 года назад

Which doesn't prove anything, or say very much. If you think it is so harmless why doesn't the doctor administering your "treatment" have a few himself? They are all so sympathetic to you, right? You DO realize don't you they are making a ton of money giving your brain a charge...which is not what your brain was evolved to handle?

@Altereddandelion 3 года назад

@@leomarkaable1 Well first of all, I live in Norway and it is free for me to be hospitalised and have the treatment, so they don't gain anything more by me having the treatment then if I didn't. Second, if it ain't broke don't fix it. I wrote another comment on here updating on the progress I have. There is no need for my doctor to take it himself if he can function properly without it, which I did not. I was 90% bed bound, unable to eat or do anything, I could barely listen to music, watch movies or series because of too much stimulation. I showered 1-3times a month and my average step count a day was around 100, which was back and forth to the bathroom. Now I shower every other day, I eat and cook food, I help cleaning the house, I take walks 3 times a week. My psychiatrist wasn't even sure if it was depression that made me so sick because it was so bad, but after the treatment I'm better, I've had 10 rounds. I'm still depressed but I'm on my way to recovery

@cupofjoen 3 года назад

@@leomarkaable1 did you mean they saved people from depression? Try this. If your children work as a psychologist and ECT practitioner, wouldn't you be offended when someone said that your children milks money from patient instead of saving them?

@ahmedfraz8324 3 года назад

How was your experience with ect..was it helpful..has it any side effects...plzz let me know..I am suffering from depression for four years

@ccaw5785 5 лет назад

It's very alarming the number of things that are given the "green light" when there is so little understanding of it. I'm sure it helps lots of people, but the fact that no one knows why is pretty suspect.

@gabrielrodriguez6157 4 года назад

So what do you suggest? Do nothing until the patient commits suicide?

@smerz9881 3 года назад

@@gabrielrodriguez6157 I suggest rTMS, ketamine infusion/spray and psilocybine.

@rushabranawat 3 года назад

And who are you ? A scientist or a Doctor?

@amandacar5679 3 года назад

@@gabrielrodriguez6157 it's better to be dead than to not remember your own children.

@thebabyyyyy 3 года назад

i mean, no one really understands why anesthesia works the way it does. are you suggesting we should stop using that simply because we don't understand it, when the benefits of anesthesia have absolutely outnumbered its side effects?

@abrahambankhead359 2 года назад

I have multiple mental illnesses, and I asked my psych about Shock Treatments and she said ECT will make my psychosis worse. Instead she gave me a little alpha stimulator shock therapy device. You clip electrodes to your ears and wear it for like an hour a day. It's supposed to work so good you can stop taking some of your meds. I hope so.

@arandomguy842 3 года назад

I've been taking antidepressants for two years now. I'm a lot better now than I used to be when I started the treatment, but I still feel sad, numb and overwhelmed by every task, have strong thoughts of self-loathing and my mood changes quite drastically often. The medication worked in the beginning and still works to mitigate my symptoms, but now I feel stuck in a place in which I neither get better nor worse. Is it time for me to try ECT?

@annamakara 5 лет назад

I can listen to each Reader/Narrator's voice all day. It's so relaxing and the reason why I binge watch. I get to listen to a relaxing voice *and* learn information!

@gregoryefs9898 5 лет назад

Some citation on the statistics would be very much appreciated...

@kelseyfarrow5289 4 года назад

Check this out: www.cchr.org/ban-ect/

@downhomesunset Год назад

If they give those it would prove how faulty it is to have done.

@JiyaRajput468 2 года назад

Just saw the procedure today, during our posting in psychiatry ward...it actually works within minutes...

@JockMcBile 5 лет назад

I knew ECT wasn't done the way it was back in the day, and I'm not against it. But IMHO it's disappointing to me, this is the apex of our abilities. I don't treat someone who has had ECT differently, because I know it works and it's useful.

@weegiewarbler 5 лет назад

Made no difference to family member that underwent a full course.

@dangerman808 5 лет назад

This was the best thing to have happened in my life. Otherwise i would most probably be dead right now.

@ouh8759 5 лет назад

You think it could help with derealisation?

@dangerman808 5 лет назад

@@ouh8759 i think because this is such an unknown as to why it works it would be hard to say. I have known others to forget everything in the past 2 years besides me getting treatment with them. Though, after ECT i was more receptive to medication and CBT. Dedinitely a last resort.

@Playboysmurf1 5 лет назад

I think i would prefer to try magic mushrooms or ayuascha than this frightening ECT.

@gabrielrodriguez6157 4 года назад

Yeah cause a plant that literally induces psychosis isn’t frightening at all 🤦‍♂️

@SimranMeditation 4 года назад

Only those who havent tried will disagree with you. :)

@teenagedream9110 3 года назад

I wouldn't suggest using mushrooms. I had a rude psychological awakening three weeks ago and I'm still shook up by it.

@amandacar5679 3 года назад

@@teenagedream9110 but you didn't lose all of your memory and you are still able to speak, think and remember your family members.

@teenagedream9110 3 года назад

@@amandacar5679 no but I did develope ptsd and a severe panic disorder that single handley ruined my life and now I can't eat food unless I make it myself from the fear that it would be laced with something, go to sleep without hearing whispers or reliving that night every time. Don't do drugs kids.

@trip1994 3 года назад

Apparently people with epilepsy are way less likely to suffer from the more common mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, and ADHD. Memory is a huge loss, but with trying medication until something worked, I died for a few seconds after a severe allergic reaction. My parents were so used to me switching medication every 3 months or so that it was incredibly lucky my mom remembered the name of my newest medicine so they could save my life. I would give up so many precious memories for a better chance of decreasing my suffering than going through medicine after medicine and therapist after therapist of nothing working. You have to have that proven track record of therapy and so many medicines not working for a health care provider is willing to suggest ECT. Unfortunately, when I got to that point I was transitioning into adulthood and there is so much financial management I need to learn before I can return back for more sessions. I am so willing to take the risk even though I know I could possibly die from this as well. It improved my symptoms so much with only half the treatments I was recommended and I hope it will help even more when I can finally finish them

@ananyasarkar6163 2 года назад

I have been suffering from severe depression, anxiety. I can’t stop my mind from having suicidal thoughts. Just one thing that stops me is what if I fail, the fear of being the family joke, and also being burdened with more pain and a disfigured face is stopping me. I have tried all kinds of therapies and medications for the past 4 years. I am thinking I should take up ECT. Should I? Please comment your genuine views, that will help me to shape up a decision.

@lioness2000 2 года назад

I´m in the same kind of situation, even tho most of my family is very supportive. I don´t know should I try it or not. I am afraid I will lose part of my memories or get serious complications..

@Jens-sl5je 5 лет назад

I get some ect threatments even unmodified i can only say good Things about IT....

@AllahRecords 3 года назад

To anyone who is reading this STAY AWAY FROM ECT

@stellanapanu487 3 года назад

My brother is to undergo ECT next week,aim really trying to dig why you said this

@AllahRecords 3 года назад

@@stellanapanu487 why is going to have ECT what’s the reason?

@stellanapanu487 3 года назад

He has severe depression,tried committing suicide he’s in hospital now and still threatens he’ll kill himself

@stellanapanu487 3 года назад

He’s on meds but they’re not really helping,,he’s been in hospital for 3 weeks now

@starcherry6814 5 лет назад

Omg I have seen videos patients screaming in pain! During these sessions! Begging the doctors not to do it as they get strapped in. And they're recent too! Some as early as 2018! I'm very skeptical of this kind of treatment, while I do believe it could work for some people you just cited that only about half of all patients that go through with this treatment experience improvement, what about the other half hm?

@coolday1111 5 лет назад

They can choose to go to ect or not

@coolday1111 5 лет назад

But yeah ect does need some work

@starcherry6814 5 лет назад

@@coolday1111 No depending on the state patients cannot choose. It's up to either their guardians or doctor.

@kelseyfarrow5289 4 года назад

@Simz Zxy Yes! Watch this! There's a whole documentary about it! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v-XpJw054d4.html

@MM-fe6gq 4 года назад

I’m not sure where you found these videos, but ECT does not look like that. The patient is put under anesthesia and given muscle relaxants so they are not awake and they will not move during the treatment. It is painless and safe

@Xiaryn586 2 месяца назад

I came here as the term ECT sounded scary and I wanted to know what it was. Now I know better, I’m glad it’s helpful for some people :)

@satanisyourmasternow1250 5 лет назад

I get that ect might work for some people, and that it can be life changing for them, but I feel like this video was biased on this case. What were these negative stigmas surrounding the treatment? How many people did it help vs how many it didnt? And then there's the case where ect is used to treat homosexuality, and as part of the lgbqt+ community, which is where I get much of my negative stigma. Just kinda wish some of these were addressed in the video.

@rachelhartwell477 5 лет назад

I think the stigma comes from the view of ECT being like something out of one flew over the cuckoo's nest, as for treatment of homosexuality I believe that was some kind of aversion therapy, which is different

@parallel4 5 лет назад

Conversion therapy for LGBTQIA+ people is _not_ ECT. It is aversion therapy which is different (look up the term "aversion therapy"; Google does a better job of explaining than me). The important thing is that LGBTQIA+ people are kept awake during aversion therapy and experience a lot of pain. ECT patients shouldn't experience pain. LGBTQIA+ people also don't have electricity ran through their brains either, as conversion therapy is not to rewire your neurology. Edit: To clarify, from what I've seen, survivors of LGBTQIA+ electro-shock conversion therapy have wires attached to their arms/limbs/etc. The aim is not to target the brain, but to cause pain.

@TheXtremeDrums 5 лет назад

Well your stigma is coming from ignorance because ECT is not conversion therapy. Open your eyes and realize that you're buying what hoolywood sells you in their movies, it's scary to think that most people in these comments are sheeps to Hollywood propaganda

@songokusevil 5 лет назад

As someone that's had dozens of ECT treatments in a row i highly recommend against it! As it might help some for me it made everything worse and even threw more problems in the mix. I have had multiple doctors tell me they fried my brain with these "modern" ECT treatments. If i could go back in time i would NEVER do it...I have lost so much because of these treatments...so many memories...so many holes. Don't do it! They want just want to fry your brain and hope you forget about your problems, just like medication tries to make you forget, but never helps the source. Just a band-aid...with serious consequences.

@JanisFroehlig 5 лет назад

Western Medicine is at its wits end in dealing with depression. I don't think anyone wants fried brains, they just really don't know what else to try. I'm so very sorry that it didn't work out for you. Please keep telling your story, and if you can, tell it to your care providers.

@juisee36 5 лет назад

I too experienced retrograde amnesia from my ECT treatments, which has caused many issues in my life. However I do know it works on some people. But is it really worth the risk of losing your memory is what I question

@801oap 5 лет назад

@@juisee36 I suppose it would depend on how bad the depression is. Those with depression so bad that they have lost their will to live and/or have attempted suicide and is not relieved by meds or counseling...Would perhaps welcome any hope of relief despite the posibility of side effects.

@gothnerd887 5 лет назад

Do you believe religion can cure depression?

@songokusevil 5 лет назад

@@gothnerd887 Cure? No, not at all. For some it may reduce symptoms or bring a little comfort, but far from a cure and definitely not for everyone.

@kristinh3790 5 лет назад

I underwent four sessions of ECT in 2017 for Schizoaffective disorder and man do I regret it. I would wake up after and not remember where I was. The doctors said it was temporary side effect. It's been two years and my memory is so bad it's hard to function. I've read four different doctor/ counselor notes on me and they all say I repeat things over and over again. Do not get ECT done! It's not worth it

@anshumanmishra2012 5 лет назад

i am shocked by the animation !

@NovaxLova 3 года назад

That may be subtle as appose to reality, too.

@vz1835 5 лет назад

Make a video about ELECTRIC FIELD AND MAGNETIC FIELD PLEASE!!!

@redhead1727 5 лет назад

The doctors said "there would be a NEW you. A very different one because there would be no more extreme mood swings and depression". I freaked out after that session and never come back again.

@laurielewis6746 4 года назад

It's scary as heck to keep going under general anesthesia.

@joeh858 3 года назад

It's like 1984...

@Correctrix 5 лет назад

The biggest misconception about ECT is that it's the correct spelling of _etc_ .

@AimeeColeman 4 года назад

Fun fact: before ECT, patients were injected with Metrazol to induce seizures.

@jameswilliam301 3 года назад

The following list is a distillation of our understanding of the cognitive side-effects of ECT, which we believe incorporates the most important points that should be conveyed to patients and their families regarding this issue. ECT may cause loss of memory for things that patients have learnt or experienced. Some patients find this distressing but some do not. This memory loss is normally worse for the time immediately before ECT (3 months) - but sometimes extends back for up to 1 year and may occasionally extend beyond this. Usually this memory loss will improve significantly by 6 months but depression may result in residual problems and some of the memories for things that have been experienced will not return. Ability to learn new ‘things’ will be less for a short time after ECT - this is usually for a maximum of 2 weeks, at which point, this ability will be back to baseline. This may delay return to usual activities. Ability to plan things, concentrate and attend to things may be improved because the depression has been treated. Beyond possible effects of ECT on learning and memory, unfortunately severe depression itself is related to problems with learning and memory and for some people this does not improve completely even when the depression has considerably improved.

@makeracistsafraidagain 5 лет назад

I started my Nursing career at a Psychiatric Facility. I participated in administration of ECT. It is incredibly effective for most patients and they are overwhelmingly glad that they volunteered. They NEVER administered ECT to an Un willing patient and most desire additional treatments because it WORKS.

@dagoldenyeetus1981 5 лет назад

Psychiatrists used to tout the benefits of lobotomies in the 1940s and 50s, it "worked" so much it was a "miracle cure"... but now we know better. Ask a neurosurgeon or any actual doctor with medical training if sending 420 volts to the brain is safe.

@Jens-sl5je 5 лет назад

@@dagoldenyeetus1981 as a patient i can also say its good