No one did back when I was a kid. I think that in America most folks had no idea what was going in Spain at all except that if you were one of the rare people who traveled outside the country, you avoided Spain. All they thought of the Lincoln Brigade, for instance, was that it was named after Lincoln.
Franco did NOT "instigate a civil war". First of all what was instigated was a coup d'état by General in exile Sanjurjo in Salazar's Portugal and his second, General Emilio Mola in Spain. Franco, owing to previous insurrection attempts, had been vanished to the Canary Islands and reluctantly joined de coup d'état which, upon failure, developed into a civil war. Both Sanjurjo and Mola died in separate plane crashes leaving the field open to the ambitions of Franco. But the point is that Franco did not instigate the civil war.
Yeah, this documentary is hardly historically objective. There's many things wrong. One of many was the claim that General Primo de Rivera was deeply influenced by Fascism. Not true. He was a reactionary, steeped in the idea of Church and Crown. His son, Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera, was a national-syndicalist, and one of the most prominent leaders of the Falange. He later adopted a more fascist platform similar to Mussolini's, but that wasn't until the early 30's, I believe.
The primary driver of the Army's attempted coup was General Mola, not Franco. A lot of people don't realize that Franco was a fence-sitter. Many of the generals thought he wasn't going to come through once the coup started.
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@@MrShaneVicious Sanjurjo was in exile in Portugal but very much in charge. Mola was second in command. Sanjurjo was returning to Spain to head the uprising. His plane crashed due to being overloaded with Sanjurjo's menagerie killing him. Only then Mola took over the uprising. The Republican government had sent the restless generals to far away posts: Franco to the Canaries, Goded to the Balearics and Mola was posted in Navarra, center of the Carlists and the Requetes, a problematic post. However the Carlists had been brought over to the movement by Sanjurjo. Mola could not have been placed in a better post for the coup d'etat.
@lalremsanga4089 as you say yes Spain took a neutral position officially during World War 2, but 47,000 Spanish volunteers left their homeland to join Germany, Romania, Finland, Croatia, Hungary and of course Italy to take part in Operation Barbarossa(dealing with the threat of the Soviet Union) in June 1941. 2 divisions of Belgian soldiers also participated. This was a pre-emptive strike as the Russians had 170 divisions of soldiers at Germany's eastern front. The Reds were preparing to invade Europe.. which explains why the Axis soldiers captured so many Russian prisoners in the first weeks of the war, because they were gathered there just waiting. None of this is mentioned in the Official history of World War 2, but obviously is in the Hidden secret history..
The attack on Guernica being the first total Destruction of a city in the history of warfare? Allow me to introduce you to what Rome did the Carthage and what Sherman did to Atlanta.
The documentary said it was the first total destruction of an ~unprotected~ town. I don't know if that claim is true for every war in all of history, but I do know that Carthage isn't a counterexample: The Romans had to besiege Carthage, and even after they broke its defenses the Carthaginians fought street by street. The Romans destroyed it, but Carthage wasn't unprotected.
@@trouserarmadillo8616 The first deliberate artillery attacks on civilians was by the Union forces in the US Civil War. Those artillery shells drop from the sky...that's attack from the air.
I'm no expert on this history, but it seems to me that there were a lot of atrocities committed by the republicans, particularly against non combatants, which are pretty much skipped over here. And the Soviet Union was supporting the republicans.
Spain lost a lot of dominance on the seas to Britain well before 1898. May 1588 for one, and October 1805 for another. 1898 might have been the last straw, but they were hardly the dominant sea power at that time.
If you watched the documentary the commenter stated that a family growing up on a naval base could see Spain as a dominant power at sea but after 1898 this wasn't possible to see any longer.
Of course Britain always looked for help to the US...Many countries out of jealousy joined against Spain...You need to really read real history...Not the crap England and the US feeds everyone...
The loss of The Philippines and Cuba to the US in 1898 was the end of Spain's overseas empire and a massive national humiliation. True, Spain had been in decline since 1808, but it could still claim to be a world power until 1898.
October 1805? Spain had lost its position as a dominant naval power long before that and it wasn’t in 1588. Look up “The Scandal of the Downs”. That was in 1639 and that marked the end of Spanish dominance at sea. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Downs?wprov=sfti1
Chevy Chase, I met him during that SNL season in a sports grill in Greenwich Village NYC. I was 12. Dan Akroyd and John Belushi were with him in a booth.
The Anarchists and Syndicalists started fighting with the Communists and Socialists in 1937, and both factions fought the Christian Democrats. That doomed the Republican cause, which still held on for two more years.
Yes, with both men and materials. Not the biggest succes but they certainly helped alot. The German and Italian involvement is largely due to one big fact, the Republicans recieved donations while the Nationalists borrowed money. Getting things donated seems better, but if you need to pay it back the person lending the money has in interest in your survival. So the Germans and Italians became more and more involved after a while to make sure they actually get their investment back.
Yes, but do not expect those other nations involved to be mentioned...As per them Franco was the worst...All pure rubbish...I lived in Spain when Franco was in power...It was the most peaceful time of my life...
@@Antares2F Sadly the narrative that prevails in Spain is that Franco is the bad guy and the lefties were the nice people. When I check the history of the 2nd Spanish Republic I wonder why the military waited so long to rebel. It''s true they had a first attempt to rebellion which failed, but then I find they waited too long for the second attempt.
That's so true, because both sides had civilian deaths, a Civil War, but it's what kinds of unarmed people targeted and killed by Communists, men women and children, Catholic clergy, or just for wearing Catholic Christian symbols, having them in the homes, and the other side was because collaboration, and also because caught up in any areas that were trying to get rid of armed enemies. Didn't go around in trucks rounding up innocent people for slaughter. Didn't go in homes to rob and murder, as marauders, especially having doormen sold to their side, and out of envy and what knew that had in the homes, did so. Didn't go in churches and convents, monasteries, to do the same and burn them down. The same way about any type of businesss and factories. Here shown how Franco's troops were seen as saviors, because the populations were being starved to death into submission and rendition. Spain lost a million people in that war. My family was quite fortunate because only lost family members if military, or because of the conditions under. On the other hand, know families that lost dozens of family members, one over thirty family members. That's because also targeted nobles. Cutting fingers off of the murdered, if couldn't get rings off of their fingers. Thoughts on what types of people in the world naturally have the most prolific brutal carnage mafioso thug mentalities, regardless of races, BEFORE interventions by other types of people. God knows, but that's just a why type of way of putting it all.
I find it very one-sided. Not a word is said about the brutalities performed by the socialists and anarchists which ran the Republic (Paracuellos and the 7,000 priests murdered for example).
Thanks for the Documentary, however I am puzzled by the Title. I have lived and worked in Spain, and I can assure you that the Dictatorship is far from forgotten, where people living in the same street are at loggerheads and won't even speak to each other because of what army their families fought with. This is also true for members of the same family. They know intimately who was who, and who did what. No Sir, Franco and his era are still very much a part of modern Spain.
Not really. No one is a fan of Marxism nowadays.But eriously, what is great about Catholicism anyway? The authoritarianism? The scapegoating of marginalized folks? The desire to control other people? You have to admit that love of simplistic Fascism seems to be making a comeback among some politicians. You know, those fake 'family values' people who are quite wiling to scapegoat anyone in the category of 'other'? Franco's nationalists were all about that.
At the start the narrator briefly mentions priest were assassinated by the left, then at the end of this video he asks how Franco’s wife felt over the deaths on the left. Did the narrator answer his own question in reverse?
He is why my great grandparents on my mom's side left Spain and moved to Cuba but when Castro came out of the mountains they moved to the USA but a few siblings moved to mexico as they did not want to deal with the racism of the USA !!+
I spent a lot of time in Spain on the south coast in an old Ford Thames van , during the early 1970s , the happiest healthiest time of my life, with Franco in charge, it was safe and perfect !!! Mel Watler ---
Fascism is the best system for humanity. People only remember the war state of fascism and forget that both the Third Reich & Italy were the best places to be before the great war.
Really? What I remember is how most people were poor. They had no freedom of speech or press and elections were a joke. The Guadia Civil didn't need warrants to invade your home and or apartment. Granted, Spain was fairly safe. I hitch hiked the whole country but not without being accosted a couple of times and once almost raped. As well, the newspapers couldn't print most crimes. I could write a lot more about the mistreatment of people, especially women. Now they have freedom. Still, I love Spain and in my heart she is my second home.
“Time’s running out for Generalissimo Francisco Franco .” Chevy Chase used that line on Saturday Night Live even after Franco died in 1975, just short of 83.
Sorry but one needs to be Spanish and have lived under Franco's regimen to know the truth...I did, and this video is a piece of garbage...My safest time on earth was under Franco's dictatorship...Look at the so called "democracy" of the supposedly free countries of the western world...Democracy, true democracy doesn't exist...Only naive and uninformed people believe such a fairy tale...Spaniards under a dictatorship were freer than American people are these days and the same is true for many other nations...
Forgotten? Every single Spanish novel of the last 60 years, and movies, is about him and his life, he's the least forgotten figure in spanish History, it's just like an unabated mania!
The 18/7/1936 coup plot was enabled by the British Secret Service, generally referred to as MI6. the aeroplane that flew Franco from Tenerife to North Africa was a British plane provided by MI5, flown by two ex British Army officers with connections toMI6 . They had flown down to Lisbon supposedly on a holiday with their girlfriends and, leaving the girls had flown onto Tenerife to pick up Franco.
Bullshit. An ABC journalist based in London rented the plane for Joan March, who financed the coup. They offered free travel to an ex British army office (and his family) in order to avoid suspicion.
@@mussaranya Yeah, facts show you're naive. Despite the fact that British supported Franco's side, it was not Franco who planned and initiated the coup. More probably, the conspirators asked the support of the British government, who saw in the Republic a menace to their own interests in Spain. It is the eternal HIPOCRICY of the extreme right everywhere, supposedly "nationalist", but asking foreign powers to intervene and give aid in the killing of their own people.
Although Franco lived in 1936 in Tenerife (the seat of his post as capitan general of the Canaries) the plane never landed in Tenerife. The military governor of Gran Canaria died in a gun-related accident (?), so that Franco, strictly watched by the civil authorities of the republic, left Tenerife with his wife and daughter to attend the governor’s funeral in Las Palmas. It was from Gran Canaria’s airfield in Gando from which Franco flew to Spanish Morocco, while his wife and daughter sailed in a French liner to avoid the risks of the putsch in case of failure.
Exactly. Read "The Portuguese Seaborne Empire." Written by the late Charles R. Boxer. He was still alive when I wrote my Master's Thesis in the matter of Portuguese colonization of India. Also, read the remarkable essay, written by Evelyn Waugh, English convert to the Catholic Church in 1952. Upon the occasion of the last public exhibit of the relics of St. Francis Xavier." At Goa, India. Somerset Maugham also has some interesting comments concerning the vast empty churches of Goa and other Portuguese outposts along the South - West Coast of India. In the late 19th and early 20th century. The churches were nearly empty. But the priests nonetheless "kept the sacrifice" of the Holy Mass. To the end. The title of Waugh's essay is: "St Xavier's Bones." In his essay however, he addresses, briefly, the Portuguese Colonial achievement in India and South - East Asia: "The Portuguese Went First and Went Farther." And the first European to set foot in Mainland China was an Portuguese Jesuit Priest..
27:29 When Franco asks his daughter to "tell the children in Germany whatever she likes", he whispers in her ear what she should say. You can clearly see his lips moving - what a ridiculous scene!
nobody forgot franco.. its just only anglo perspective thinking that history just passed not in latin world.. im from argentina. and we know alot about franco..
Little Carmen was obviously reading from a script held beside the camera 😂. The usual 🙄 😅 In Egypt, no one can challenge our dictators. The suffering is immense.
@@mike7gerald yeah! She looked nit happy too, she knew in her heart, as she was still a pure soul, that she was doing wrong!I can't believe Spain was actually a brutal dictatorship until the 70s. I don't know why we in this part of the world are not capable of changing our destiny!! Makes me very sad!
A useful if rather rapid documentary with some film footage that I've personally not seen before, but I see no need, unless this is intended for children, to have cartoons/animation nor the blurring of footage showing the inevitable carnage of a civil war. I doubt whether anyone of Spanish origin regards anything as 'forgotten'.
I was born in Spain...This video is one sided usually protecting the northern European countries or anglo...It is always same old, same old...The two most greedy countries were England and Portugal, then the US...They united against Spain...
This is in English. It's not for the Spanish to watch; they already know. We the English speaking world forget about the fascist military dictatorship because it was never in the news. Spain became very insignificant to the West under Franco. Only its inclusion in EEU, then EU, allowed it to become relevant again. So yes, for much of the world, this dictatorship was and is forgotten.
I was born in Spain and lived in Spain under Franco's rule and while I do not take away whatever wrongs he did, the time I lived there before 1975 was the safest...Crime was 0 %...Children could stay out in the streets even after dark....Many people got their two flat houses with back and front yards at very low prices...Ridiculously low...Spain under Franco prospered in a decade while it took other European countries 40 years to do... Spain became the 10th most powerful country in the world...Look at Spain now under Pedro Sánchez...They should be talking about him instead...He is the worst president ever...
Yeah, Franco was a disgusting dictator. That doesn't mean anyone is saying Stalin was wonderful. Reichwing sympathizers really must be simplistic thinkers if that's the take..."buh buh but.....what about the USSR??????".
@@steves2664 I remember that one...I am a Spaniard and I know this video is a piece of crap...My time in Spain under Franco's regimen was the most peaceful one of my life..
The most telling difference between the Nationalists and the Republicans was how many prisoners each side released when the war was over. Franco released far more than the Republicans, not because he had far more, but because the Republicans (Socialist/Communist) preferred to murder the majority of their prisoners. Other than that, I'm sure they were wonderful people.
The most telling difference is that the Republicans were communists (not a threat today) and the Nationalists were fascists - very much a threat today since wannabe authoritarian fanboys are crawling out from under their rocks to praise Franco and others like him.
Evidence ? That sounds extremely dubious. Sources, please. I’ve yet to have read any such wild claims outside of the ramblings issued by Franco apologists. And / or shameless devotees of the Axis ‘powers’.
Many didn't get to be prisoners but we're murdered ..like the little children and all the outspoken intellectuals and journalists the Nationalists killed.
I'd assume they were dangerous to let go and from what I'm seeing you can't get the fascist virus out of a person once they're contaminated. It's literally like that The Walking Dead up in here , the us. But they are diseased with conspiracy, denial, fanatacism, simple answers and above every lazy cerebral activity
This represents a huge gap in the history of the second world war that is almost always neglected. As a young man I was an enthusiast for Bultaco motorcycles. The frames were made of very inferior metals. You had to reinforce them in strategic places. This was a result of no nation in the world being willing to trade military raw materials with spain. I think that this is true to this very day.
@@fgoogleinthea7475 to understand the point of my comment requires an IQ thats higher than luke warm. The point is that spain remained a pariah long after ww2. By the way luke warm is about 85 degrees which is about what I estimate your IQ to be. If your lucky. And please, please do not ask me to explain to you what a pariah is.
@@fgoogleinthea7475 if you didn't get the very clear and easy to grasp point of my comment, im wondering who typed the response you left. It couldn't have been you.
Could you produce something about Salazar please? Professor Preston, an excellent contributor to this presentation might know about Franco's neighbour.. ☘👿 Tasmania.
There are so many mistakes and cliches. Even easy to research facts like Spain was in the risk of losing it’s only colony…. Yeah it was not the only colony. Also, this is obviously a hit piece. Obliviously they didn’t bother to read his autobiography.
Very interessting! The document from Richthofen, (Shown @45:56) says very clearly, that Guernica was RAISED TO THE GROUND by SPANISH GROUND FORCES, namely by the "5.th Brigade", which was sent by somebody whos name was "Oviedo". On the next Page 122, also shown in the video, it reads "all people where evacuated before all Monestrys, private and public buildings where torched. It was done by throwing fuel canisters through the lowest windows of these buildings. These Buildings where very tight, 4-5 floors with large wooden strucures inside, which burn very easily... " the ONLY part on this page, which is highlighted and discussed in the video, is Richthofens mentioning that "it was interresting to see these building collapse". What is not mentioned and completly IGNORED however, is that very "unimportant" detail, written directly above, that the destruction of guernica was mainly done, by HAND, by the troops on the ground.
For you you say, you might have the "virus" too so you wouldn't even notice a sick environment. You get programmed to steer clear of difficult, uncomfortable truths
@@kiwitrainguyyeah, not many rats as all the scraps were eaten and nothing left for them. If you wanted to see poverty and hunger should VR visit Spain in the late 40s and early 50s.
@@ToRo-wm4bu Spain was a rural shithole before Franco industrialized it with the economic miracle, and they had just fought a civil war, of course the country was going to be in poor shape following. Also don't forget that even the British had food rationing up until 1953 while they had access to the Marshall plan unlike Spain.
Franco kept Spain out of the Soviet Orbit, kept Spain out of WWII, and forged Spain into a modern state. All this came at high cost, and considerable suffering, to those who opposed The National Movement.
Spooky, you called it the National Movememt😲 over here the wannabe dictator calls it something like Bramdon or Maga or something. I don't pay attention, he's "touched" and I wouldn't watch to embarrassed his family by trying to take him seriously
@@joeblow3990oMG WHERE you been this s...is really scary. So even after being f.. over constituents will idolize their victimizer What the f... are we gonna do over here
@@joeblow3990That's not true , feudalism died in Spain hundreds of years ago. The country were real feudalism lasted the longest was Russia , until the 1700s when Peter the Great modernized them.
A fair old chunk of the International Brigaders from Britain came from Liverpool. Without excusing many Republican atrocities, Franco was a cruel man, pitted against a democratically elected Government.
I spent 3-1/2 years in Spain in the early 70s as a sailor on a USN sub tender. I found southern Spain to be poor but with no crime. I was never hasled while traveling around the country by police or Guardia Civil. Franco was still in power. Recently I looked at Rota and Chipiona on google earth and found graffiti on the buildings. That never happened under Franco.
@@pilsudski36 In those days no country ran on time...Technology was really obsolete and still is..I know what the elites possess and they keep it from us the little people...
Informative. But there is too much of that one Brittish historian. His point of view is pretty clear. Lets hear from others as well. Also, the repeated mispronuncuation of names like Sanjurjo makes me take the narration less seriously.
Franco was a hero who save Spain from the red revolution, he use the fascist and the Condor legion to defeat the reds. The reich do not reach his objetives to occupie Gibaltrar, Franco inclusive helped Patton in North Africa.
@@muir8009 Jajaja...Because Franco was a threat to the USSR?...Really? Communists doing what they've always done, spread their sick ideology worldwide.
@@roelkomduur8073 on the contrary, why wasn’t there any mention of the Soviets involvement in the Republican government? There were atrocities committed by the Communists as well. If you value the “truth”, there should have been a more thorough analysis of Franco and what he faced.
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This is a ZDF channel which is a left-wing public TV station. They will tell the brutal truth about right-wing regimes but minimize the brutality and danger from left-wing regimes.
Interesting. The scouse historian throws out many unsupported statements but maybe that's the edit. Beevor is compelling as usual. Too many ads for me though, so I won't continue.
Paul Preston could certainly back his statements, he is a leading historian on Spain, Civil War, and Franco. So I think the edit may be at fault if there are unsupported statements.
He actually murdered a lot of people AFTER the civil war and placed the country in isolation. He had way more blood on his hands than Castro. Also, an interesting thing nobody talks about: how comes his family has become so wealthy that his daughter died as one of the wealthiest women of Spain? Must have been a lot of honest work I guess.
@@KPW2137 You only follow what you hear...Read the true history...I lived under Franco's regimen and Fidel Castro was much worst...but the US couldn't control him...although they tried...Franco reached out to other countries...unlike Castro...
Oh I've read. And TBH, I've met in my life quite a few people who said great things about Stalin, about Mao, and some other places after living under their regimes@@amparoalvarez9001
