The TRUTH about GAMEMAX Power Supplies... 

Good work Bryan, hate scammers myself.

So with the sticker change and fake branding, doesn't this mean they were counterfeited? Surely Australia has anti-counterfeiting laws.

If anything seeing the Gamemax 350W deal with these mega loads and not just go BANG like so many of the other lesser known brand PSUs is quite impressive. Can’t see their 650W PSU as being a bad option now if their low end holds up that well. But 100% agree on the scammers, I’m currently chasing refunds due to lack of stock and scam artists over here in the UK exploiting that complete lack of PC Component Stock. We need more Budget PSU Reviews like this 👍

These dodgy retailers need to be investigated by the authorities. Not only are they scamming customers but are creating fire hazards in homes. Great video

Gamemax needs to sue the people counterfeiting them.

Hey Brian, when i originally saw your first video on the GameMax powersupplies, I was very suprised. Mainly because I had been using a GameMax VP-500-RGB for a year at that point. And to be honest, it was the WORST experience i could have experienced with my first PC build. There were many problems with the PSU. thankfully since december i have switched to a EVGA unit that has made everything a much better experience. problems: 1. underpowered, wasnt delivering enough power causing many crashes 2. the fan inside the powersupply was not properly seated, causing a loud rattling sound that couldn't be fixed. Thank you for making the videos about these problems, and I hope that others wont experience the same problems I have faced with GameMax PSU's. Thanks to you're videos I gave myself enough reason to switch to a more reliable brand and PSU.

I used to use a 600 watt gamemax psu for my pc and I had no problem running a 2080 on it. They even sent me 3 rgb fans for free. It was one of the nicer power supplies I've owned.

Love this channel; so much cool stuff to see and listen to.

Great test. Nothing like the smell of fresh solder fumes wheb you start up your PC for the first time. In my old build I put some cheapo falcon "600" w supply. It took a while for the fumes to clear, but suprisingly it still works.

2:34 - Yeah, that "650W" sticker on the box is pretty suspect. That would have sent me looking for any non-ebay listings for a VP-650. Did GameMax offer any suggestions on how to visually ID the internal components of a "650W"? Perhaps Ebay should contact all the buyers of the non-existent "650W" model and give them refunds (funded from the seller's account)... it's certainly their policy to cancel the accounts of sellers of known counterfeits? Even a sticker on the internal PCB might be enough to help discourage conterfeits. 5:42 - Replacement sticker on other side probably is due to placing original sticker down on a heated surface to soften the glue while they add new sticker on the opposite side that's facing up, then flip and peel off the original sticker with the heat-softened adhesive. It looks like there's so few cables on that "VP-650" vs the true VP-600 in those side profile shots. Update: checked out the original review video again and the seller (with over 14,000 feedback) no longer has 650W gamemax PSUs but apparently still are selling "550W" GX550-A ones that have no PCIe power cables at all and don't correspond to any gamemax model I could find. www.ebay.com.au/itm/SALE-550W-ATX-Power-Supply-4-4pins-P4-AMD-24-20pin-2xSATA-4x-Molex-1x-FDD/113217085758

You are not measuring ripple, You are measuring vdroop(as you said) and voltage stability. To measuring ripple you need an oscilloscope with a sample rate of at least 5mhz, as you need to look at the 100khz to 1mhz range(it depends on the pwm frq. of the psu). The ripple might be 200mv or 10mv - you just dont know unless you get the oscilloscope. Otherwise great video :)

I love it when Tech YES rips power supplies apart and...exposes both the inside and shady business practises.

i still love the command and conquer red alert 3 music at the end. brings back some good memories. one of my first PC games i played on PC (Techinically it was age of empires but theyre the same game essentialy) great video and i have used a game max 550w psu before LEGIT one and it was just as good as my old corsair 550w unit. i upgraded now obviously to a EVGA 850w psu

Tech yes city: When something looks too good to be true, it usually is. (16:00) Also tech yes city: Ok so in this $200 gaming setup we have got a $45 rx580 8gb i bought from a shady guy in a dark suburban alley.

Looks like the problem is with out of spec 12v supply due to poor load regulation as opposed to too high ripple voltage. Also the RGB version tested may actually be slightly better than the non RGB version but they are close enough.

game max should pursue legal action. they wont stop till game max takes legal action. game max should also get with ebay and have the store page taken down. im sure its against ebays tos somewhere.

Bryan do you have the aerocool cylon power supplies by you? in the uk they're pretty cheap but actually really decent , looking at £32-38 for the 700w. ik seems sketch but they're not

maaaan that is a great follow up to the original video...nice of the company to hear what u have to say and vice versa. i hope this is a beggining of a great partnership from both of u

Greetings friend from Colombia, I liked your follow-up in the two videos, and it is great that you could clarify between what is something original and a scam, it is very surprising that it happens in a country like Australia, see that these kinds of things are very frequent in countries with fewer possibilities of purchase and technological follow-up as happens in Latin America, with your video it is shown that it does not matter if the brand is well recognized or little known, there are those who want to take advantage of the lack of knowledge of the people in general and take advantage scamming people. Thank you very much for your time and effort and for the philosophy that you employ in going with the truth and proving what is real and differentiating it from the false. You have a new subscriber!

This is a very responsible re-review to the previous GAME MAX video.

Don't think the RGB one has a wider ripple due to the RGB lights. It is more likely caused by the modular cables. The detachable connector and likely slightly smaller gauge cables have likely a higher resistance.

Yesssss!! Or, should we say TechYes ????

I`m in the UK, working at a scrapyard, and a box of Gamemax 600w PSU`s were binned, and now i`m worried, and will have a closer inspection of them. But still interesting to see your test results. They look like capable PSU`s, and are certified 80+ bronz. I wonder were in the world these PSU`s where re-labelled, and where they were also shipped to.

Just need some advises here sir: I have the VP-600, nearly 1,5 years now and it's been working just fine with my 1650 Super. I will upgrade my GPU in the near future so I wonder which one it can power up (at maximum). The thing worrying me the most is its 12v lines, 2+6pin and 8pin: they all come from 1 line, which can only handle 150W max. 3060 12G may be the one (170W), I dont think it will be troublesome as I would surely limit its power drawn anyway. There's a sale going on at my place and I will build a new PC soon anyway, so it's only temporary, I can put up with that. What do you think?

The length that thieves will go to take your money... unbelievable... Good work figuring out this whole ordeal!!

I bought a 350w gammemax psu for my ryzen 3400g pc and it ran with no problems for 5 months until i got a rx 570 (from aliexpress) and replaced the psu with a cougar vte 500. I used the rx 570 with molex adapter when the 350w was on my pc and it ran with no problem unless i increased the power limit and crashed constantly on Furmark but with no aparent dmg to the pc. I know it is not recommended but i was curious lol. My point is that even when stressing the psu it manages to avoid damage to components and gives enough stability to "run" a rx 570

Hey, you are intellectually honest, Gamemax reacted supper professionally. Bottom line: Job well done! You've just made me a Gamemax customer with this.

Thorough investigation is nice to see, I would of thought these manufactures would start metal stamping or laser etching the wattage or SN failing that a similar verify system like e-cigs if it costs a few extra quid so be it. However I do feel more confident buying GameMax after seeing this as I have a few GameMax RGB fans and they are cheap but fairly decent.

There is a brand called "Power Box" they sell psu from 300w to 750w.And they are all the same light weight and dont give more then 200w.I really hate when people put them in gaming pc(with sata to 6pin convertor) and for the that is a fire hazard waiting to happend.

There are two places you can complain to: - ACCC - be sure that the basis of the complaint is misleading and deceptive conduct - Office of Fair Trading QLD You can also find out where the business is registered and complain to that state's office of fair trading. You can do a simple search of the company's ABN on the Australian Business Register, where you can see which state the business is registered. Whether you complain at a federal level (ACCC) or state level (fair trading), you're protected under the Consumer Law due to the fact that this is quite obviously misleading and deceptive conduct, particularly if you can prove definitively that the stickers were changed out. For a slam dunk complaint, you would need to provide evidence that they never acquired 600W power supplies from Gamemax, such as proof that the eBay seller's order for supplies was only for 350-450W PSUs, and official statements from Gamemax that they had never produced/released the 600W product in question.

Excellent work, really appreciate the follow up here and the decency to admit a mistake. Thanks.

Good on Gamemax for sending you the proper power supply. However, as others have mentioned, it sounds like Gamemax needs to go after those people that are selling the products that are mislabeled.

Thanks for always looking out for us! Love the videos!

how are cougar power supplies are they good to use or just get a evga or a thermaltake or a cousair power supply

Man, when Hell March started playing at the end...Love it.

But how does the vp-600-rgb do when rgb is turned off? (hold eco button)

I've purchased 3 Gamemax psu's, 700W Semi Modular, in the U.S. I've found these psu's to be very reliable and comparable to some of the more well known brands, as I do run other psu's on some of my systems. Ty Tech YES.

I have a question, my PC is horribly underperforming in some games like GTA 5, on ultra, Im getting about 60 fps with vsync, and thats ok, but I play all the games in LOW-MEDIUM, and in GTA V, when i lower the settings, fps drops to bearly 30 fps without vsync... PC specs: AMD FX 6300 8GB 1333 dual channel Sapphire AMD RX 580 4G Some random Mid-end Gigabyte motherboard KOLINK C600 power supply I checked and all of theese parts should be able to deliver much higher framerates.

What did you use to test the voltage?

Nice Video, Can you test some of the "new " AZZA power Supplies? particularly their 650watt 80 plus Bronze. I believe that there may be a similar situation going on here but I don't have the ability to Test it.

Have you tested the seasonic s12iii 650w bronze? I just bought it and wanna know if it's a bomb

I understand that everyone has their own budget and that we all try to cut corners where we can to get that little bit extra performance. But a quality power supply is an investment that can last through multiple PC builds, and is something nobody should skimp on. While I'm not advocating that everyone should go out and buy a 1000w 80+ gold rated showpiece, it's worth it to get a quality power supply from a reputable manufacturer, to give yourself room to grow within the current build and possibly your next build, and to do your research before you buy. Don't want to push people away from your channel but my go to site for power supply reviews is JonnyGuru, they really know their stuff and I've never gone wrong following their recommendations. That being said, if you stick to quality brands like Seasonic, Superflower, or FSP Group you really can't go wrong. Not saying that Gamemax doesn't make good power supplies since I'm sure they're fine for some applications, but if you are building a PC with $1000+ worth of components, don't skimp on the one thing in your PC that has a high potential of destroying other components if it fails. That's like buying an expensive sports car and putting cheap tires and break pads on it. It's just not smart.

I'm really surprised that the company did not just ask you to open up the ps and send them some pics of the components and cb to identify the unit. I can recognize at a quick glance anything I've ever designed and fabricated.

Can you review the seasonic a12 series? I got it here in south america and i never found any reviews anywhere which made me suspect, although it shows up on seasonics page i see no videos on it, would be interesting

8:33 Correction: Using 20w 'MORE' than the gold rated PSU.

i have a question i bought one from goodwill in the us how do i tell if it has ben fudged

I have this psu. Should I switch it out? It have pass my 30days return.

Quite a scandal regarding the rebadged PSUs! Reminds me of the crime ring in Europe during the mid 90s that bought Pentiums in bulk and re-engraved the clock speeds so they could sell them as higher spec models.

I am leery of cheap power supplies. A cheap power supply can take other components with it when it fails. Even the extreme budget build I just finished has a new name brand power supply in it. You are absolutely right about there being a lot of scammers out there right now. I actually got a extremely cheap power supply in a part bundle when I started looking for parts for my FX build. The power supply went strait into the trash! It had no weight to it, no sleeves and only a small amount of connectors. It was marked as 500 Watt! Luckily, the 1050 Ti and 8 GB of DDR 3 I got in the bundle were worth more right now than the power supply and crap motherboard I ended up pitching in the trash.

Really good PSA Bry Man, don't beat yourself up about giving GameMax grief in the first video. You made amends, lesson learned. Would be very interested to see how you go about testing for ripple, as you touched on a bit in this video! Thanks

The PSU is the one part I probably overspend on (and quite probably lose part of profit on) when I'm putting together a build for someone... customers don't always see a PSU as sexy, or even vital to their PC. But I have to say that the peace of mind that comes with knowing their build is on solid foundations, along with the fact that they have a bit of future proofing - especially when it comes to upgrading a GPU down the line - is worth its weight in gold. Always go for known trusted brands and check out reviews

Whenever I install a power supply I opt to spend a few extra bucks for a corsair unit, with the exception of a thermaltake eps12v I need for an old Dell mt. It amazes me with all the information on the internet about pc building that people are still willing to cheap out on a psu.

this is an amazing video, or series. would really enjoy more. Amazon Apevia PSU should be next!

just curious, but for the Semi Modular RGB one, overall would it still be OK? When I get my tax return I'm considering getting a PSU to go towards finishing a build using old parts I upgraded from so my brother would have a decent PC, he currently got a i3-2100 with 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 & a GTX 750, the spare part PC would be a Ryzen 3 1200 with 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2400, for GPU, I have a Radeon HD 6850 I could use for testing & I can reuse his current GTX 750 until something better becomes available, thinking something in the realm of a GTX 970 or 1060 3GB (or AMD Equivalent, maybe something around a RX 470/570 or 480/580 4GB?). checking Amazon Canada, they have the GAMEMAX VP-600 RGB currently on sale for $71 CAD, was $81 CAD, for other options for a 80+ Bronze or better that's Modular in the sub $75 CAD price range, checking ca.pcpartpicker.com with Amazon selected as merchant, there's the Rosewill Glacier 850M for $60, Corsair CXM (2015) 450W (CP-9020101-NA) on sale/discounted for $65, Antec NeoECO NE550M on sale/discounted for like $67 CAD, Cooler Master MasterWatt 550W Semi-fanless modular (MPX-5501-AMAAB-US) is on sale for the same price as the $67CAD Antec, then it's the Rosewill Glacier 700M for $70 ($10 more than the 850M), finally for sub $75 it's the only 80+ Gold & Modular option, the Rosewill Photon 550 for $75 with the Capstone 750 being $3 extra at $78.

Thanks for all your videos! Always love the content you provide us!

Very interesting... so, what is the bottom line, are GameMax power supplies, even the 300W, considered reasonable electrically and worth the asking price? Thanks

ACCC would be the best bet Nick. MSY did the same a couple of times and they get hammered hard after multiple complaints. But eBay is a lot harder. Here, it's best to advise eBay to take action.

I did look this up to see, if Australia has a similar body to UK's Trading Standards and you do. Australian Competition & Consumer Commission should be involved, as worse case with these fake label power supplies is causing death. Nice video Brian and great work.

I have a gamemax kage case its an amazing case and hasn't given me any troubles they seem like a newer company but people are faking there products when the original products are amazing.

Is it okay to use a powerrex truerated 700 80+ bronze psu?

command and conquer outro is the best outro. want a next gen c&c now 😕

me: fantasizing of owning a 30 series card tech yes city: using one to test the performance of sketchy power supplies 😭

spooky PSU's are the bane of cheap computers.

Do this more with Budget PSUs i love this

The RGB variant may have extra resistance in the modular connectors.

I though something odd was going on after your first video. I've used gamemax gear before (cases, psu's and fans) and while it isn't the best in the world, it is functional and reasonable quality for the price. I've never tried buying it from eBay though.

Type in "Ultra Silent 850W Power Supply ATX Computer PC Gaming PSU 140MM Cooling fan" into eBay Australia or "750W Power Supply ATX Computer PC Gaming Silent PSU 140MM Cooling fan" and you will see two further examples from the same reseller but under a different store front name. I think you have clearly highlighted to what lengths scammers will go to dupe buyers. Fair play for following up with Gamemax and getting to the bottom of the mystery to inform us buyers.

Love the v for vendetta poster in the background

I’m so glad they’re good. I have the 650 rgb one bought from Amazon and so far it’s good at 3 months.

I have power GameMax 600w ,Can it run an rtx 3060 12gb card?

I have in my posession 2 Genuine Gamemax 850W 80+ Gold RGB PSU's in two gaming rigs which I bought directly from Amazon.co.uk and they are in my opinion very reliable and they have not killed my components but if people are very self cautious about this brand then Corsair or EVGA PSU's will be the better choice. I know so many other PC builders on RU-vid said this before but I must emphazise the importance of 80+ ratings. Bronze is the cost effective option and is widely suitable for any gaming/multimedia build which makes it a very versatile PSU and when you go up to Gold then the price is higher but you will get better energy efficiency and better capacitors. Regardless relabelling PSU's is extremely dangerous and to me it should be exposed. Here in the UK there was a scandal that broke out involving a megastore called CEX and they tried everything in their power to counterfeit game inlets and breaching copyright laws and this whole situation reminded me of it. On Ebay if anyone has purchased one of these PSU's then I highly recommend taking it up to Ebay's Resolution Center and put in a case or though PAYPAL's Resolution Center since that seller had lied on the ebay listing and the item is not fit for purpose. I want you to fight them to get your money back. I also recommend never using these PSU's.They lied about the sticker so it's not out of the realm of possibility that they might have been tampered with. Also when looking at any Ebay seller's listing my main rule of thumb is to avoid listings with postage quotes like this "This seller does not accept returns" To me this is a red flag and you should avoid the listing and look for a seller that is willing to accept returns. Do not buy a product that you can't send back. Your money should be spent wisely and don't just rush in to make the purchase. Take your time and be careful.

Tech Yes Follow Up! Good on you for getting back to us on this. And 44mV? No big deal, still within ATX spec so lick the stamp and send ‘er!

Great job! Very educational and for buyers awareness.

Wow really? You can measure ripple through the GPU now? Really interesting. What sensor are you monitoring for that? Does any AMD gpu have that?

I'm curious about Aigo power supply, is it any good at all?

Using a single Loom to power a high end GPU introduces noise which is evident in high end Video products, especially noticeable in VR HMD's, I noticed this with my 1080Ti, 98% usage. I was using only one Loom with splitter to power the GPU which resulted in flashing pixels in VR. I then used two PSU Looms to power the GPU (no splitters) and the flashing pixels disappeared. I think that a single GPU power Loom to the GPU surpasses the PSU's ability to deliver clean power and "electrical noise" increases if output of a single PSU/GPU Loom approaches Maximum. 10700k oc'd ; 1080Ti ; 32GB RAM ; CM 700W PSU ; Z490 A-Pro.

Idea for a video Could you measure the rimple and wattage efficiency on some of the most popular PSUs? Corsair RM 650x would be great xD also some comparison in terms of prices vs efficiency of bronze gold and platinum!

May i.know.if the power supply i bought last week is a good brand? Silverstone 80+ White 700watt.

I purchased the game max fully modular 750w rgb psu. Ive not had any issues with it. Granted i did get it directly from the game max amazon store, for me something like an unknown company to me id rather buy directly so i can have that assurance that they will fix the situation if something is wrong.

Tbh that VP-600 is junk also, on the 12 volt rail it stats 480w, a true 600w power supply would have at least 580w on the 12v rail, always check the the 12 volt rail wattage before buying any so called higher wattage power supply.

is this brand good for entrey level pcs

I mean, I dunno. The one thing I always say is to never cheap out on a PSU. It's not a known brand, I wouldn't touch it. The real brands are obviously more but I'd rather pay a bit more money and have a power rather than blowing up every component in it with a shitty one. Corsair is expensive, but 7 year+ warranty.

Oh snap. I used to play sc2, got to diamond rank 1 and never tried for masters as i got busy. Still watch tournaments every now and then though. When will we see the Techyescity gaming streams for sc2? lol.

I purchased one of the VP series from amazon in the US . And Its Not a bad power supply , But It has this horrible buzzing noise. I really think its the fan and not the psu it self. its the vp 600 rgb

Honestly I learnt my lesson when my gtx 1080 had some problems with the fan spinning(they would start and then stop) and I found out that the ace power supply 750w was actually 300w and that my card had permanent damage. Buy new and buy from the actual retailer.

I got this psu for free by reviewing it. The fan bearing was trash and very loud. Sold it in a system after a few months. Ran the rx570 without issues

Can you please do more videos like this they are kind of really amazing, also can can you by any chance review the MONTECH brand also please? :3

Rebranding a lower wattage/quality Gamemax PSU to a higher wattage explains why they have similar internals and the same case (other than the 110v/230v switch). P.S The correct place to report these fake PSUs should be the ACCC, but who knows if they will do anything about it.

I heard about a guy bulk ordering cheap power supplies talking to a salesman actually in the factory in china. This guy could speak the local to factory language and was talking in English. When he explained to the salesman he really needed 500 watt units or higher for gamers the guy said hold on a minute. He then put the phone down and shouted (in local lingo) at somebody distant 'can we change the labels on those units to 550 watts?'. 90 seconds later the salesman picks up the phone and says he can dispatch 100 units at the agreed previous price and they will arrive in 3 weeks. The buyer said no thanks in the local dialect. Obviously that concluded all business with the supplier. My ex GF used to work for a British clothes retailer and basically if there was not a buying company quality controller on site checking the stuff before it was shipped, what arrived was Junk. They would try to pull the wool over the QC'er all the time. Every trick was employed to mess them up.. It was so bad she could not even accept a cup of coffee from anybody in case they roofied the fxcker.

Nice follow up video. Thank's for doing these

Any heard of arctic cooling there 500w psu were meh loud as out too has in back in 2011, I was only running HD 6770, athlon x64 5200+ so it dint stress the psu to the limit

what do you think of the builder psu's on eBay

Can you test the “high end” of gamemax? Like 850 80+ gold? They r cheap and i want to know if they r good enough

Would this psu work good for me? Got gtx 1660 Ryzen 5 3600 16gb ram B450 ds3h

The ATX specification requires that the 12v have a maximum ripple of 120mV, and 50mV for the 3.3v and 5v rails. While this is the maximum voltage ripple allowed good video and thank you. EBAY should be notified and seller should have funds frozen.

I love this power supply videos... You can make a series about it jaja... Detective of suspicious PSUs

I bought a Gamemax 600 because it had a shorter length for a small case build. It seems to work fine.

I got a cool max 850 watt power supply. Running a fx8120 and a 970. It looked cool when I could see the arcing inside the psu...haha

Apevia is selling 800w 80 Plus Gold PSUs on Amazon for under $70 USD. After looking into it further, it seems that that particular model is actually a rebranded Andyson H6. Andyson manufactures EVGA PSUs in America. I guess Andyson just doesn't have the market share to sell many of their high end PSUs so they liquidate to Apevia and Apevia slaps stickers on them and sells them cheaper. 🤷‍♂️

Antech claims their psu can supply steady peak power, noone has tested it, can you do that test can clear our confusion please.