I just watched about 10 videos on your channel. You have opened my eyes to a more common approach to things. I have a question it's little off topic to this video, but what do you think of KNF? Anyway, I'm subscribing to your channel now. Hope to here from ya and keep the information coming love it.
I do agree about the molecular chemistry, in lab or natural, however it's the testing and results on the human body that makes me concerned. The food and drug folks have an overwhelming task by the many competing companies developing genetic plant varieties, herbicides, pesticides. Unfortunately we often find out much later what impacts changes to plants or chemicals have on humans when they get to market. Carcinogens are a substance, organism or agent capable of causing cancer. Weather it be from using genetic engineering or chemistry, it is good to be very skeptical about herbicides, pesticides or genetics when it comes to public production and consumption.
honestly think the GMO companies should respond by lobbying for warning labels like: "contains food" "contains amino acids" etc... its about as important to a customers health and more funny to read. The only arguments against GMOs are herbicide resistant plants being used to spay far more on the plant which is bad for the environment. and companies like Ronsanto patenting food giving them far too much control over who can and cannot grow certain plant but that is a industry issue and not a GMO issue
From a geneticist, thank you so much for sharing! It’s so hard to find thorough but concise explanations of how genetic modification exists (and has existed) in agriculture. I hope you can ignore all the ignorant comments trying to spread fear. Keep it up! :)
I generally reserve the term GMO for organisms produced with horizontal gene transfer, Monarch butterflies and sweet potatoes included. I use GE (genetically engineered) for that and everything else for things produced in a lab. Thee biggest thing against the technology is the organic agricultural industry.
I was recomended this channel online and this is the first video im watching. It is so refreshing to see someone in the gardening community crossing over with the science community. I like to follow both but they rarely cross into each others realm. Also im not interested in growing flowers but i really want to grow some glow in the dark petunias hahaha. Excellent video
What's funny is just how often Academia is wrong. Geoff Lawton (the Permaculture guy) supposedly has had arguments with multiple scientists on "such and such can't happen" and he's like "well I've seen it here, here and here".
Your expertise and fact based research provides great comfort in clarity. Combined with common sense approach to gardening it’s a very compelling show.
So your saying non-plant organisms for instance house cat's DNA can be introduced naturally in nature with my tomatoes? [ just can't wait for the new GMO'd Calico Tabby Tomatoes.
If you compare the DNA of your plant to that of your cat, you actually find a lot of similar genes. They all came from a common ancestor. We might not know what that was, but both have common DNA.
@@Gardenfundamentals1 So then next we will have along with tomatoes with the fantastic characteristics of my precious little tabby friend a new tomato with a Blue Whale DNA and fill my fridge very quickly.
“Science” will tell you that the similarities between genetic sequences is proof of Darwin’s theory of Evolution with no reproducible evidence of that. That is not proper science. I tell them that their view is not the only possible conclusion for close similarities in sequences. My view is that they are similar because they were all created by one God. They generally mock and say I believe in fables. Well their view takes just as much faith but it’s in greedy untrustworthy people with a stake in the game and deceptive practices as their track record. Which is more naive?
This is a great video with great info. I feel much beter knowing this. But I think the fear is much larger then just GMOs themselves. I think the fear stems from a complete well founded mistrust of a broken corrupt monopolized system where regulation can be bought and skirted by teams of lawyers and other greedy interests. To only find out 10 years down the road that .....Oh that's were that new cancer was coming from. There are hundreds of examples of corporations who would knowingly break the law because when they did the math, the fines and lawsuits were less then the profits made. This is why money over everything might not be the best way to structure a planet.
This video was an exemplary example of scientific explanation of GMO. I am growing this purple tomato and can’t wait to taste it. Most of the people commenting just don’t have the education to understand. Thank you
And what education specifically do we need in order to understand? Have you seen the soil and extreme lack of biological activity around existing GMO plants? Use biology, not chemistry to grow your food.
"extreme lack of biological activity around existing GMO plants" - that is nonsense. The biology around a GMO corn plant will be the same as a non-GMO plant.
Great, educated video, as always! Fun fact about the toxic celery (which you might already know?) Celery is in same family as giant hogweed, Apiaceae, and the furanocoumarins that cause that phototoxicity exist to some degree in all members of the family. Humans are differently affected by these substances, too, so there might be especially sensitive folks who will react this way to normal celery, or carrots, or dill.
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Thank you so much Robert for educate us, I always recomend your videos to costumers, I work in a nursery in Colorado, and I agreed with you, most of the people seems, incluing myself, think that we know, but nobody does any research,usually goes with media or genaral opinion. Thank you so much for making things very clear to some of Us,(confuse or misinform). Do you have a video, or one of your blogs about the neonicotinoids and how affects a plant treat it and the generation of seeds or plants from that particular plant (specially to the insect level) I am referring to native plants in particularI, but grown in nurseries. When you have a chance let me know. thank you again. Cheers
Good point but not strictly correct. Insulin is made by a genetically modified bacteria. Since insulin is not an organism, it can't be a GMO. Insulin is produced by a GMO.
@@Gardenfundamentals1 ok. You're right. Here in Italy half of the cow feed comes from Australia and South America, and is a GMO feed, because in that countries GMOs are allowed. So, our famous pasta or cheeses and many other Italian products are coming from a GMO source, but noone knows, because it isn't written on the product labels
Garbage food that is doused in chemicals and altered beyond recognition of the human body. It doesn’t nourish properly any more and it is difficult to properly eliminate.
So basically you're advising us to accept public opinion on the safety of GMO modification protocols? And you're using the Covid-19 vaccines to support your argument? Anybody else see a problem with this? ✌️
"you're advising us to accept public opinion on the safety of GMO" - Never said that. In fact I said public opinion is agaisnt GMO. I want you to believe the science. There has been a huge amount of testing on this and it all says the food is safe.
@@Gardenfundamentals1 you're entitled to your opinion sir💯! I disagree with your benign opinion of genetic modification protocols and nutrition. Instead of modifying life why not seek to understand and adapt to it. Just like gardens!!!Monsanto is probably not your friend! Jesus Christ is Lord✌️
If we can use gmo’s to help increase production, we are better able to feed a growing population with existing farmland, this reduces the need for clearing wild lands to become farmland. Klaus
@@curiousbystander9193 It's not. It's nice marketing but it's not a good long term solution. To feed the human population, we need GMO. Because of changing environmental factors, we need GMO to "level up" our agricultural products. FYI - I do use a johnson-su bio-reactor for composting. But even that isn't a magic potion to magically make our food products better. We need food staples that are drought resistant, disease resistant, humidity resistant, heat resistant, frost resistant AND gives us real nutritive value. If they can GMO a plant that helps people selectively lose weight, reduce the risk for cancers, give us hair on our head, perfect eyesight, the ability to build muscle and strong bones and reduce age related degeneration, and it tastes delicious... I'm even more happier. Bottom line is that "organic" or "natural" are vague terms meant to appeal to our nostalgia for the good old days. It's not evidence based. We should look to take advantage of these new techniques and methods to make our lives better. Those farmers in ye olden times would sacrifice their children to get GMO seeds. They can always get a new wife and more children. But a guarantee on your seed to ensure a consistent and good harvest.. that's money in the bank.
If you are quoting Klaus swabb or however spell the morons name. That makes no sense because he actually wants the population to decline by billions. So by following anything he says, is not good unless someone wants to unalive billions as well.
Clicked for the "shark-mato". Stayed for the good listen. Thanks for the nice lecture/essay. It's really nice to hear intelligent, logical thinking without the emotionally loaded and political terms.
I don't have a problem with GMOs; however, I do have a problem in all the x-icides and fertilizers we're using, along with other methods that hurt our soils. We are killing our soils which is more than just a substrate to hold a plant. Soils contain over 50% of earth's life, yet we treat it like dirt. It's not the x-icides/fertilizers I'm against, rather our dependence on them, which is killing our soils. P.S. Just for clarification, I'm a great fan of Regenerative Ag/Ranching; however, I'm NOT a fan of Organic Farming.
I really enjoyed your comment. I am an organic amateur gardener growing some berries, roses and sunflowers. I realise on a large scale organic may be difficult to pull off. Im very interested to know is this the reason you are not a fan of organic gardening/farming or is it something else?
@@Gardenfundamentals1 The video you linked has nothing to do with insecticides or herbicides. I'm not sure if you're grifting, or genuinely trying to bust garden myths. You seem extremely under-educated on the topics you speak about. Also, note the guy in your pic applying synthetic fertilizer had to wear a mask when applying. :D
@verbalkint98 because organic farming is a good Ole boys club. You could use a product that is natural but is not omri approved so it's not organic. You can use a product that is original approved but not natural. It's all about rules not natural or safe. A product could contain arsenic which is natural but that doesn't mean it's safe and this could be sprayed on a product you eat.
Love it! Thanks. I know that corn ears from the sixties almost always had worms in them. Nowadays it looks better, tastes better and has no bugs in them. Haha
I remember food actually having flavor. Take apples for example. They weren’t picked green and sprayed with chemicals to ripen them entire. They had crisp skins and delicious flavor unlike today. I can also remember a time when health was vigorous, not declining and most people were not obese. Go figure, messing with our food supply has led us to so many children sickly, allergic and many dying of cancer.
@@tagladyify More likely, you're just 70 years old, and your taste buds have naturally desensitized. Apples are still grown and stored commercially the same way they have been since the 1940s: harvested just before peak ripeness and kept in cold storage for as long as ten months. Apples do not ripen significantly off the tree and cannot be picked green as you assert.
Has it been studied how the human digestive system has responded to the lab GMOs as opposed to the nature GMOs. We evolved with the natural GMOs. I’ve seen studies about some food GMOs don’t get along human digestive system? Have you heard of such studies ?
One thing we know is since 40 years morbidities have increased including cancers. So how can we say none of those mutations caused it. Every action will have some consequence. Natural is always still better off since you cant help it. But anything artificial we can avoid it so have to be skeptical. I'm surprised people with scientific knowledge leaning towards gmo. Are you advertising for them.The corporations are definitely responsible for all the problems, they keep fooling public by creating new things to confuse public. Better for everyone to grow their own food atleast it reduces the mutogenesis or gmo..if not completely.
If we cannot fully understand it common sense says do not mess with it, but not arrogant science. Just charge right in without public knowledge or consent. You are making very broad statements in your favor then contradicting yourself when called into question. You cannot have massive assumptions and then call it science and perfectly safe.
A GMO seed is patented and then the control of the seeds that plant produces belongs to the company. It’ll be like the jab you do what we say or you don’t work or eat in the case of the seed.
"A GMO seed is patented and then the control of the seeds that plant produces belongs to the company." Silly comment. Seed patents have been with us since 1930. Every farmer knows about them and willingly sign the contract should they choose to buy them.
How many times have drugs been put out only to be recalled because they were not properly tested and start killing large numbers. The companies get a fine, but it does not put a dent in their profits so it is well worth it. OxyContin is a prime example. The family that knowingly put it out and ruined the lives of millions, including children is still very wealthy. They made no restitution just were forced to stop making that particular poison.
An excellent argument for the use of gmos. But could you clarify what the use of them and the world becoming a mono cultural society from the use of them is doing to plant diversity.
Discussing GMOs is like talking about guns or the internet, it's always a "yes but" conversation. No matter your perspective the listener has to decide you are mostly their ally or ideological enemy and either way has a dozen thoughts of where you are wrong. I think you very thoughtfully reviewed the topic, and yet I have 1/2 a dozen places where I mentally said .... CRISPER and all the other breeding methods you mentioned are simply tools. Tools can be used for good or bad. The use should be judged. There are evil uses of tools that should be punished and uses that should be rewarded and a whole bunch of muddy uses in-between. I would have to add one personal yes but, don't assume smart people will do smart things. Yes smart people can do some amazing things but those amazing things can be good, evil or some muddy middle - about the same as dumb people. So yes science can be amazing but trusted - well, still human.
as a university student you were taught to accept whatever opinion the professor spoon-fed you instead of thinking for yourself, but even you should at least be able to acknowledge the risk and danger that tinkering with something so fundamental as DNA poses
@@bryan__m you missed my point, colleges are not safe havens of free thought offering different points of view. they require students and professors to tow the line of their agenda and opinion or else get fired and not pass.
Great video (again)! I myself am absolutely NOT against GMO in general, but the whole Round-Up-Ready idea was complete lunacy from the beginning: It lacks the basic understanding of weed control itself and has absolutely to take the blame for super weeds! Successful weed control is NEVER just one measure but it is a strategy.which uses a combination of several different methods altering and/or combined. Crop rotation, tillage, application of pesticides (with a variety of chemical agents)) all have to work together and need to become one system, that works for the individual situation. There are two mortal sins, in the use of pesticides and the Round-Up-Ready-designer committed both of them: The first one is using the same agent over and over again! One agent only was the whole idea... The second is a too low application rate: You go in to kill, not to harm. Here comes the big problem: T.m.k. are all R-U.R pants resistant but not immune against glyphosat. This means they wont die, but they will still suffer. To minimize these effects lowered the farmers thle doses a much as possible. As you explained: That´s the way you make mother nature create gen modification... Glyphosat is a sledgehammer and has to be used as such! They told the farmers, to use it like a clown-hammer... How could it only go wrong?!? Conclusion: Round-up-Ready is the miss use of Round-up by concept!
The only real problem with gmos are the weird gimmick plants companies will make that will make the garden look like a clown house and make things look unnatural/tacky for example the gmo petunia that glows in the dark
All good and valid points however the evidence that the gmo food is safe and healthy is not there. On average many Americans are unhealthy the calories are there but the nutrition that keeps us full is not so eat more to stay full. That does not have to necessarily do with gmo though. My wife does have an allergic reaction to gmo corn she gets cramps and bloating when she eats corn chips with gmo corn. I do think the roundup ready corn, cotton, soy and canola and others do encourage the use of roundup. I wish you would have talked about Bt corn and cotton and the corn earworm and cotton bull worm have developed a resistance to the Bt. A few pest are starting to show with resistance to the newer Vip3a toxin. You say gmos have tested to be safe but in many cases we say things and find out 50 years later we were wrong. You and I can cut open a apple and count the seeds and say how many possible apple trees can come from that apple. Only God knows how many apples can come from that one apple. In our pride and arrogance we build a tower that will get town down ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-13s88krPtEc.html
Your wife couldn't pass a blind taste test to tell the difference. "the evidence that the gmo food is safe and healthy is not there." You haven't a shard of evidence that GMO is not safe. Bt resistance? So what. It is expected. There are hundreds of other Bt toxins to move to and farmers simply don't have to buy a seed they don't want to buy.
"On average many Americans are unhealthy the calories are there but the nutrition that keeps us full is not so eat more to stay full." - that was a problem before GMO, and has nothing to do with GMO.
I believe it's empty calories provided by gmo's. They put on weight with no nutrition. BTW, Matthew, I'm so allergic to corn, and all 3 pages of corn products, that arthritis knocks me out of commission for 1-3 days. And I have no proof but I believe it eats at my bones. Say hi to your wife.
I can remember a time when most people were thin. It’s a fact. Declining health and life expectancy are also a fact. I can also remember a time when researchers had to fly to this location or that to study a case of childhood cancer. That is far from the case today. That is where all the science has brought us.
@Gardenfundamentals Sorry. I meant an example of 2 species cross pollinating. My concern is crossing a tomato and a snapdragon. It concerns me due to the food chain. Some bugs eat tomato and use it to reproduce. Some bugs use snapdragons to eat and/or reproduce. (Anyone reading this: think milkweed for the monarch butterflies) If our plants start getting "gmo'd" this is going to affect the food chain and ultimately every living creature. ??? Crossing 2 different plants would never happen in nature. A bee/polinator can carry pollen from different species but it will not result in fertilization. I read in a previous comment about crossing a tomato and a cat. It seems like you r ok with that, too? Lol So, where do YOU draw the line, personally? Just curious. . . . Love your perspective.
@Gardenfundamentals1 Sorry. I meant an example of 2 species cross pollinating. My concern is crossing a tomato and a snapdragon. It concerns me due to the food chain. Some bugs eat tomato and use it to reproduce. Some bugs use snapdragons to eat and/or reproduce. (Anyone reading this: think milkweed for the monarch butterflies) If our plants start getting "gmo'd" this is going to affect the food chain and ultimately every living creature. ??? Crossing 2 different plants would never happen in nature. A bee/polinator can carry pollen from different species but it will not result in fertilization. I read in a previous comment about crossing a tomato and a cat. It seems like you r ok with that, too? Lol So, where do YOU draw the line, personally? Just curious. . . . Love your perspective.
I feel so bad for those purple tomatoes catching so much flak 😆 This and the other video about the tomatoes are the first scientifically informed commentaries I've come across on this topic. Nice work! I'm excited to grow a few of those tomatoes this summer. I got them for the same reason I seek out other colorful fruits and vegetables.
Can you keep the bees and other pollinators from crossing those tomatoes with your neighbors.’ Would you grow them if you were to be held financially responsible for any negative repercussions down the road?
@@tagladyify In my case I can because no one is gardening anywhere near me. I purchased seed directly from NPS and I'm following their T&C which are fairly simple and straight forward. I'm not concerned with vague legal hypotheticals.
@@teebob21 It's difficult to compare apples to apples. But even just looking at life expectancy, the increases were mainly caused by modern plumbing and antibiotics. What's telling is that life expectancy is starting to fall. This trend is likely to accelerate if consumption of processed food continues to increase. I eat very little that isn't home cooked and my blood work is fantastic.
What will society do if the agrocorps are suddenly unable to produce these GMO seeds, pesticides, and herbicides that farmers are now reliant on? Like, how fast would the industry collapse? It doesn’t seem very smart to put all the eggs in that basket. Could say the same thing about diesel fuel too though I guess. Basically, we are farming at a scale that is extremely susceptible to supply chain issues. I’m sure farmers could eventually adjust to any sort of supply problems, but that adjustment might come at the cost of a few billion lives if overall yields plummet suddenly. The burgeoning global population is sustained by unsustainable practices, and it doesn’t take a prophet to predict what the result of that is going to be.
Personally, I've seen how Americans have forgotten their roots, where vegetables and fermented food is the norm. Sauer kraut at the store is heated till its dead. People that used to eat rye bread and sauerkraut with their sausages, now eat store-bought white bread and some cookies.
_The Day of the Triffids_ is science fiction, and is as much of a documentary as _Little Shop of Horrors is._ That is, unless you really believe there are walking, talking carnivorous plants.
sorry sir, you are very naive. messing and tinkering with things on the DNA level is playing with fire. there are too many variables and organisms are too complex. this just feels like something thats going to take a very dark turn when someone finally tinkers with something the wrong way and the bees can no longer pollinate the crops or something else catastrophic
Preserving 100's of years of growing food is better, more reliable, and better for the environment. "Science can be bought and sold". Large oligarchs and producers buy the "science" they want to suit their needs.
"Preserving 100's of years of growing food is better, more reliable, and better for the environment" That is wishful thinking. Even without GMOs: 1) almost none of the cultivars we eat today were here 100 years ago. 2) Agriculture in general is not good for the environment.
It’s actually thousands of years and was done with many better practices than today. Such as buckwheat as a cover crop to make nutrients more available in soil and other less invasive methods. In America it used to be that most families had a veggie garden instead of agroindustry supplying so much. It seems to be heading back to that.
We see adaptation in nature that is not the same thing as crossing species. That is not seen in nature. Also when food is altered it should not be with the use of carcinogens X-ray or otherwise and must be rigorously tested for any negative reactions not secretly put out into our food.
before watching this video im going to say this. why make a fruit change its nutritional composition? why would you want a tomato to produce more vitamin or mineral than it can naturally produce? if i need more of any vitamin or mineral GOD ALREADY DID THAT!!!. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS STUDY THE FOOD TO KNOW WITCH ONE HAS MORE OF WITCH VITAMIN OR MINERAL!!!! AND WE ALREADY DIDI THAT!!! if we want more of some vitamin or mineral all we have to do find the fruit or vegetable that has the most of that. we are not just eating fruit, vegetable or animal flesh we are consuming their life force, because if it was dead how can you consume its life force. who eats spoiled/dead vegetable. this is not just about elements, GMO is re-tarted food its not natural. now im going to watch the video to see if you can change my mind.
Golden rice is a good example. A large part of the third world lives on it. It has very low nutritional value and as a result thousands of kids go blind and/or die. If they grew GMO Golden rice, that problem would be solved.
@@DukeGMOLOL You are welcome yo eat all the GMO's you like! When you end up with health problems, study GMO's. GMO's, vaccines, and diseases are all made in a lab! Good luck to you!
he avoids the bigger discussion about human and environmental outcomes, so conveniently..... as I see the commercial for certain drugs here just now. ...and I think the depth of his understand of protein expression is limited.
that's not the case at all.... it's the daily commercials for ibs drugs and my increasing property taxes related to special ed spending, which is directly related to the food.... take care.@@DukeGMOLOL
Science has done many good things to make our lives better; however, science has also created some problems along the way. Toxic pollution (e.g. leaded gasoline, DDT, radioactive waste) leading to climate change and ground water contamination. While much of the damage was done by irresponsible use, general ignorance and greed, the scientific community has a responsibility to have a high degree of ethics and transparency so people understand their world better. Unfortunately, ignorance abounds in our world because of misinformation and just plain laziness to educate themselves. I'm certainly pro-science, but don't trust without good reason.
Science just invents things. Societies decide how they will be used. Lots of people benefited from leaded gasoline - even when we knew about the lead damage - people kept driving. Today we know about the damage done to CO2 in the air by driving - people still drive.
Now we are going to get into the climate change idiocy. The very people who embraced planned obsolescence since WWII are the same ones leading the charge with their billions for what is causing climate issues. They want to decrease population by 90% because of their greed and arrogance. None of that so called science can be trusted. And geoengineering is total madness
you think I'm going to take all this time to add knowledge to this conversation for you to delete it because it doesn't support your believe? the world is not here to support you when you're incorrect. before deleting me why dont you expose how im wrong instead of not allowing other people from seing different perspectives. your perspective is not the only one.
1) Why would I delete your comment? You did not really say anything? 2) You did not provide any evidence that even a single thing I said is wrong - so how can I "expose how im wrong instead". You actually need to provide your point of view before I can do that!
@@Gardenfundamentals1 answer to 1) not on this comment!, I didnt say anything 2) and what I said need no evidence its common sense and i brought up the bible who has evidence of god telling us not to mess with the tree of life, but yet it is the law of the land. 3) i did not tell you, to say that your wrong. i said to tell world why im wrong!!!!
@@Gardenfundamentals1 i thought you had deleted the comment because i could not find it, but then i saw it and i deleted the comment but to be fair, I left this one to keep this channel fair. i appreciate and learn from some of the things you talk about but i cant allow all the things to pass by even when i dont agree with it because we are not cavemen anymore. this is the age of information not lies!!.
It is one thing when nature does it. It is another thing when man does it to play god. This video is all about making those playing god to sound justified to the rest of us.
So is it playing God to take medicine when you’re sick? To treat cancer? To take prenatal vitamins for the health of a baby? How is gene editing interfering with nature, but those things aren’t?
@@tagladyify you have a pretty warped perception of science, which has questioning as a core principal. How can you ever learn anything new if you don't first start with a question?
