I reviewed the research too, and came to the same conclusion. But I could never present it in such a clear, concise and helpful way. Your videos are brilliant! Thank you.
Years ago I worked for Dupont and asked one of their engineers what his opinion was about Teflon coatings on pans and he said "I wouldn't let my family cook on them". The reason we don't know the long term effects of many things has to do with it being impossible to prove beyond a doubt...in court! So if you go on the record as a professional and state an opinion then you can be sued. The long term effects of cooking on well seasoned cast iron are known...there are none, so spend the time to learn how to season cast iron and strop having to ever replace those pans again. As for the statement that they use Teflon on implanted devices and you reason this as it means their safe? That logic doesn't hold up under scrutiny as your body will only heat it to around 100F and it breaks down around 400 to 500F so not same same environment, because it's inert to many bodily fluids it doesn't break down like a hot scratched surface subjects the coating to. It's like saying that atomic bombs are totally safe under most conditions...well because they are, but you still don't want one anywhere near you as it just might be harmful, and sure there's no proof their going to kill you but if you don't need to take the chance why expose yourself.
Thank you! At the end of the day, we all evaluate risk differently. The person traveling on a 2 wheeler is exposing themselves to a higher risk than the person in a car, but would we ban 2 wheelers or demonize them for being unsafe? And in the case of non-stick, the difference is even more trivial
Even if it is now safe for now. What is the guarantee that something unsafe is not found in future. Plastic was considered safe but now we consider them unsafe. We use a combination of stainless steel, bronze, brass, cast iron, sheet iron utensils.
@@uv8898 Not quite, and largely, because it's a non-stick coating, the coating isn't going to stick around in the first place. I'd just season the scratches with oil and carry on cooking with it.
Great as always! I just got my first Stainless Steel pan after reading about this but now I feel comfortable continuing to use my non stick pan as well. Another extensive video on microplastics would be interesting, as Im assuming this is becoming a more researched topic.
I use non-stick cookware too for sukhi sabjis that involve tomatoes, or eggs or potatoes. But if the dish is a bit runny/wet, then stainless steel khadai works better. I am a little bit conflicted on non-stick cookware. I use it, it is super convenient sometimes, but I know that I am privileged... that I simply change my non-stick cookware when it wears out after few years. A wrought iron, cast iron or stainless steel cookware lasts more than one generations, where as a non-stick cookware feels like a use (a few years) and throw item. But good to know that its not impacting health too much. Environment issue however....
I don't want to buy non-stick cookware at home, because my parents don't know it's temprature limits and cleaning it without using scrubbing.(Aka with sponge)
My parents only buy non stick. Even I'm 36 my dad never listen he don't want me to tell him anything even if it's health hazardous. He abuses .living itself is a bless for me
An excellent explanation that balances the scientific method but still leaves room for future findings on the subject compared to the polarized opinions which completely puts them in the good or bad category. In summary - so far, so good.
I believe that just as we approach fear-mongering RU-vidrs with skepticism regarding health advice, we should also take the opinions of this individual with caution. While some RU-vidrs claim everything is harmful, this person suggests that nothing is harmful, advocating for non-stick pans, refined oils, and white flour. However, it’s essential to critically evaluate these claims. The truth likely lies somewhere in between. Ultimately, we must make decisions about our health and be wary of everyone here . We don't know who is aflitated to which industry and is being promoted
You are right! I absolutely encourage everyone to be equally skeptical of all individuals on social media. My goal is to challenge prevailing myths with published science. This does not automatically mean that science knows everything (it doesn't) or that I know all the right science (no individual knows everything) or that I am not biased (all individuals have biases). As with internet content, always use it as a kindling for individual curiousity and personal knowledge seeking
*Let's make it simple and clear, if you don't like it and think it's harmful for health then don't use it. There's not much of a price difference between nonstick and iron/ stainless steel cookware. Cast iron is heavy and not very practical to use. I still prefer and using stainless steel, iron, cast iron cookware and even bought few last month and will stick to it.*
Cast iron is practical to use if you have two brain cells working for you. If you are dumb enough to not use cast iron then refrain from commenting anything about this anywhere.
For everybody who thinks teflon is safe should watch Erin Brokovich and the law suits related to that. And most importantly why teflon was invented in the first place, it was purely with military uses as water proofing/resisting.
If people still wish not to use non stick pan Try to season your steel skillet to very high heat and apply a layer of oil till it smokes Then throw away the oil now you have a temporary non stick steel vessel
Can you please do a video on coconuts? Some say heating coconut causes cholesterol but many cultures have been heating/steaming coconut as part of their curries and gravies.
i wish you spoke about TEFLON production unit in PARKERSBURG in america and what happened there...THE TRUTH IS KEPT UNSPOKEN because...............................................
"It makes little sense to have two entirely different setups for export and local market use" - you have no idea about the indian pharmaceutical industry it seems like. Please go through ranbaxy case study if you want. Them and many other indian pharma have different manufacturing practices for west vs India/Africa. Kindly do not put forth arguments based on what you think is common sense, for alas its not how the world really works.
I am fully aware of Pharma. It seems like you are not very aware of how Fluoropolymer manufacturing works. It is an entirely different, highly complex, high capex beast compared to pharma
I dont non stick mainly because I am a clumsy person. I forget to not heat it too much. I end up scratching it. And also, i hate washing it by hand. Tossing it in the dishwasher is easier for me
My chemistry professor who has PhD in chemistry from IIT said steel cookware are best . Nonstick r not and even steel utensils with thick based is nonstick anyway 😃
Quite informative, i suppose you can add the point of tossing out the pans upon clearly visible damage as well. I dont think thats obvious to most Indians.
Even that, I'll let individuals choose. Honestly speaking, a scratched pan is also not going to harm you, but the risks of consuming small bits of PTFE are entirely up to the user to determine if it's acceptable.
Every thing is ok for him. But a little of teflon a little of preservation a little of everything that he says ok , will definitely become a health issue later on. Its like companies r telling him to tell everything is good.
Yeah. No matter how much ever scientific evidence is put forward some people continue to be dogmatic in their illogical and blind belief systems. What to do. That's life isnt it
@krishashok Sir will you release a recipe/cooking book too. I want to have a few of the recipes with scientifically explained- ideal cooking procedures that you use in the kitchen
(170) I'm a non-stick pan freak. I like it because it makes cooking easier and cleaning them is so easy my cat could do the dishes. That is, if I could just get him to keep his paws in the water and stop snorting the soap bubbles from the dish wash liquid. 😉
Good afternoon Krish sir, If someone has eczema (male, 45 years, Bengali, non vegetarian, healthy), what to eat and what to skip? Waiting for your response. 🙏 Please reply.
Convincing enough for me. Although I think my household would shoot me if I used them. Well seasoned caste iron pans are working for me, and I do not get grief for them.
I don't like using non-sticks because of how flimsy they are built. They don't last more than 18 months... That said, i understand they are very cost-effective and pragmatic options in the modern world. And just because i am privileged enough to afford to buy triply or cast iron and take the time to heat them for use and then maintain them, not evey household can. I only recomend that people use non-sticks on medium heat
So.. atleast so far you have said some 100 things which we use in our day to day life the bad stuff in it is negligible but if we add up everything I am sure it does a bit a harm yes ?
I am in my mid seventies therefore, I don't care what all goes inside me along with our cooked foods. I have been using nonstick cookware for long, have been using plastics in various drinks and dishes. Whatever microplastics have gone inside didn't bother me. Even I noticed occasionally that the washed cookware had some detergents sticking to it and I think lots of that stuff also have found its way to my guts over the years.
Independent of whether Teflon is safe for cooking, your first argument is the stupidest of all possible arguments. Implants do not go under abrasion or high-temperature changes. And then you start "in my opinion" 2-paisa crap. Chacha, do not hedge on your opinions like a middle school student. And if you are hedging, then hedge across the spectrum and not only on one side of the argument. There are two pieces of the science puzzle - 1. Can Teflon leach into food? The likelihood of that is close to zero for a new cookware. But that likelihood increases a lot for degraded teflon. Cheaper and thinner coatings degrade sooner - increasing the chances of Teflon leaching into the food. Now, how many of the studies that you have looked into consider degraded Teflon cookware? 2. Is Teflon in the quantities that leach into the food harmful? You made a juvenile error in logic - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You underplay the potential harm. Mortality, or cancer, is not the only potential harm. Experimental evidence cannot point to a causal mechanism between the use of Teflon and comorbidities - it's methodologically impossible. We still do not have a large population-level study to connect Teflon us and health. So go ponder on that. Also, what's with this logic of yours - you are already surrounded by poison, so some more poison is not bad for you. That logic is only applicable if there are no reasonable alternatives.
Being level headed takes most of the panic out of panic mongering 😅. Go watch video once again. You yourself admitted that ptfe isn't that harmful because it is inert. If current research indicates that it is inert then why should you throw out convenience. Tri ply is costly though. Aluminium is cheap, but not non stick enough.
@@auditigupta4697 auditi ji, the issue that I wanted to highlight in my comment, if you read again, is that the research on PTFE is rarely done based on real kitchen usage. You might want to unpack my argument in terms of false-positives (type 1 errors - avoid punishing the innocent/innocent until proven guilty) and false-negative (type 2 error - avoid criminals in the society/punish even if there is an iota of doubt). Generally our goal should be to avoid type 1 errors, and that's what Krish is doing in his argument. But here is the thing, if the risk is high then you must aim to reduce type 2 error. New teflon cookware - 0 risk. Old teflon cookware - non 0 risk. Degraded teflon cookware - significant risk. Conservative advice (which should have been in the video): If you can afford only one pan, don't use a Teflon pan. If you can afford multiple pans, use one Teflon pan for sticky situations.
What interests me is the fact that the use of oil is more in iron cookware to prevent food from sticking to the bottom...so i have to choose between micro levels of teflon vs more oil consumption
Dude, if you scratch the Teflon using metal spoons or labels and ingest it, it is absolutely no good. Watch the movie ‘Dark Water’ that deals with these forever chemicals and how bad they were. I think you are being a bit too blasé about this. Just because there are micro plastics everywhere (which is no good, as you pointed out) doesn’t mean we should tolerate PFOAs. I think you are a pseudo - expert, one that doesn’t do a deep dive into the subjects he waxes so eloquently on YT. I don’t think I’ll be subbing you anytime soon. Sorry.
Abeyaar I’ve seen all those documentaries. Point me to a single peer reviewed study or meta analysis that shows that ingestion is associated with serious issues
Dark Waters is not a documentary per se. It is a really good movie based on real life events, starring Mark Ruffalo. NIH, EPA, NH.gov came up in just a single google search of ‘what are the effects of ingesting PFAS’. YT doesn’t permit links, you know. You could google them all yourself too. All sources I just listed are credible. BTW, what are your credentials? What’s your education and training? BTW, before you start jumping on me, know that I am a trained semiconductor design engineer with a MSEE and hold several,power modeling related patents, run a software company currently. I care deeply about global warming, the environment and our health as a species. Normally I don’t get this frustrated with some guy doing YT videos and claiming to be an expert, but your blasé attitude requires a deliberate ignorance of mounting scientific opinion. Do you know how many people use steel spoons or labels when cooking on Teflon cookware? They end of scratching the surface, leading to slow leaching of harmful chemicals every day. Do you know how many of them heat the pan to such high temps that the chemicals might start to out gas? Do you know these chemicals keep accumulating in the body?
Your arguments are based on the assumption that most Indians are aware enough to let go of their non stick pans as soon as the coating starts to come off. Most middle and low income families keep their pans till they can. Most are also not aware of the potential harmful effects of these coatings on which there has been insufficient studies- probably due to the pressure from the manufacturing lobby. So your point that everything is hunky Dory, doesn't gel with me
Such a controversial content for the sake of views. Those who want to go with this, pls watch the movie 'Dark Waters' and decide. Teflan brand is just another multi-national corporate brand planning on to earn profits with no empathy like any other.
Im not sure even you watched Dark Waters. Those documentaries focus on the risks at the production stage. NOT at the end consumer level, where little or no risk exists
@@krishashok Dark Waters is a movie based on true incidents, not a documentary. And you cannot claim I have not watched it, as you were not with me when I watched it twice. Synopsis: "Dark Waters" is a 2019 film that tells the story of Robert Bilott, a lawyer who fought a case against the DuPont chemical corporation for dumping toxic waste in West Virginia . Here is a brief outline of the plot: - In 1998, a farmer named Wilbur Tennant asks corporate defense lawyer Robert Bilott to investigate strange cattle deaths on his farm in Parkersburg, West Virginia. - Bilott discovers that the deaths are linked to DuPont, who contaminated the local water supply with toxic chemicals. - Bilott's investigation uncovers decades of secret testing and cover-ups by DuPont. - Despite facing local backlash and personal costs, Bilott persists in his legal battle against DuPont. - The case ultimately leads to a landmark settlement for medical monitoring and justice for the affected community. Another interesting article: scienceandfilm.org/articles/3583/bilott-vs-dupont-revisiting-chemicals-in-dark-waters#:~:text=Sloan%20Science%20%26%20Film&text=Museum%20of%20the%20Moving%20Image,against%20the%20DuPont%20chemical%20company.
Dupont, has deliberately hidden the harmful effects of PFOA before it was making teflon PFOA free. It is all for business, right? How do you even trust the company again if it comes up with a PFOA free label. I think you must watch Dark Waters to fully understand it. And you cannot trust any vendors that make non-stick cookwares claiming PFOA free. Why so much fuss and doubts. How do you think we can convince general audience and house wives who have no knowledge of what we all talking about. Claiming the forever chemicals is everywhere, so no harm if I use tiny cookware is a ridiculous statement. Earlier we weren't aware, now the we want to make world a better place. Any small step matters.
I love the information in your videos but the graphics, stock photos and gifs are completely pointless. You don't need to show the Capitol when you say the word government, or a wad of cash when you say "money". Use it sparingly. I would like to know the structure of PFOA, but I know what other words mean. It is very distracting.
Instead of defending non stick cookware, why don't you promote Claypot, cast iron cookwares ? For once Krishashok should leave krishashok= QED for once .
Is there any chance of accumulation of ptfe or pfas or other chemicals in the body over the time if regularly used? Is it true that more than one ppb is harmful? If yes then will the accumulation be exceed the harmful level?@krishashok