The TRUTH About Quarterbacks Selected First Overall 

Never. It's a coin toss. The NFL has managed to sensationalize the draft which not one player has ever been drafted who was NFL proven. College proven but if college and NFL were the same JaMarcus Russell would probably just retiring.

@johnselwitz5362 I agree with you completely on building out the team. One of the recent times where it worked the opposite was with Burrow. Cincy drafted him, then prior to year two spent a bunch of free agent money on his line, but for the most part I think building through the lines is the way to NFL success. Also, Carr was essentially ruined by the Texans. At least he got paid, cause otherwise it would have been a travesty.

@@theunlikelysuccess Very true, I remember that Burrow was sacked more than any other quarterback in 2021, he had a young and inexperienced offensive line, although that wasn’t entirely the O-line’s fault, Burrow often played hero ball too much rather than checking it down or throwing it away (Bill Parcells once said that sometimes the best play a quarterback can make is simply throwing the ball out of bounds). But even still, the unsung heroes of that 2021 Bengals team were the defensive linemen they acquired in the offseason. Trey Hendrickson, B.J. Hill and Larry Ogunjobi combined for 26.5 of their 42 total sacks that season and improved that defense. It wasn’t an astronomical improvement but it was good enough to make a run to the Super Bowl, those guys were crucial to that team. My favorite example was the Vikings from around 2007 to 2010, they were awesome to watch. Their O-line had absolute units like Matt Birk, Bryant McKinnie, and Steve Hutchinson opening up holes for Adrian Peterson to run through, and then on the other side you had Jared Allen and the Williams Brothers making life miserable for opposing offenses. In 2008, they won a division title with Gus Frerotte and Tarvaris Jackson at quarterback, they get Favre the following season and nearly win it all. I think that’s the blueprint that every team that’s rebuilding should use, along with not giving up on a rookie quarterback after one difficult season. If Peyton Manning had been a rookie in today’s NFL and in his first season thrown 28 interceptions along with a completion percentage of less than 60%, he’d get labeled a bust and Colts fans would want to trade him.

@@johnselwitz5362 The Vikings have been a pretty competent organization but the playoffs are their ultimate enemy. I couldn't agree more on that team, they were the ones with the Love Boat disaster, right? Also, I think that it gets forgotten how valuable a good offensive line is.When the Patriots offensive line coach, Dante Scarnecchia, moved on they never recovered. You have to have the right guys and the right coaching but it makes all the difference. Peyton definitely would have been benched and seen as a bust. The lack of patience to develop guys is crazy.

@@theunlikelysuccess Yep, although the Love Boat incident with the Vikings happened a few years prior in 2005, I’ll always believe it was a key factor in Mike Tice getting fired. I’ve said it before, the worst thing to ever happen to rookie quarterbacks was what happened from 2008 to 2012. Prior to then, a rookie quarterback leading a previously struggling team to the playoffs was unheard of, I know there was Roethlisberger in 2004 but the Steelers already had a solid running game and a dominant defense, and Ben was simply a game manager who was tasked to make an occasional throw and not mess things up. He was more of an exception to the rule, rookie quarterbacks used to be allowed time to settle in, learn the playbook, and even sit on the bench for a little while to be mentored by a veteran. But starting in 2008, you had Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez (kinda), and Andy Dalton all go to subpar teams, and help lead them to the postseason. In 2012, three rookies in one year accomplished that feat: Andrew Luck, RG3, and Russell Wilson, with each guy having rookie of the year caliber seasons. So now people’s mindsets changed and expectations were raised, if a rookie quarterback comes in and struggles to adapt to the NFL, people will automatically say "well this guy got drafted to a bad team and led them to the playoffs his rookie season, why can’t that guy do it?" rather than using some logic and understanding that maybe that team already had a solid foundation and the quarterback was simply the spark to ignite their turnaround (i.e. Russell Wilson with the Seahawks)

@@johnselwitz5362 I think Brady was trying to convey a similar message a few weeks back. The expectations have become so high that guys can't get through a full rookie deal before people move on. Wonder what will happen to JJ in Minnesota with Darnold's success.

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@jpmnky I think it's a problem with the expectations. They're unrealistic in my opinion and these guys have to fix bad teams and become HOF players to get credit.

@scottiebuchanan2102 Vick's talent is truly crazy. He was the AI of the NFL. If he studied film and stayed out of trouble off the field....it would have been an all time career.

@timothyt2981 Detroit might have been the worst run franchise of the last 30 years, but the competition is tough. Cleveland is no easy out.

For real. Man has been amazing both on and off the field for a long time

​@@theunlikelysuccessWhat Detroit has done in the last 3 years puts them ahead of the Browns, Jaguars etc.

@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 Absolutely. I am talking before last year, but fair.

@VictorLopez-ff1mf Appreciate you, thanks for subscribing!

@christianpoint0888 Appreciate you sir! I also tend to lean Rivers.

@@theunlikelysuccess Rivers always reminded me of Marino ! Prototypical FU I want to win gunslinger ! Tremendous upside ! Manning ? Yawn ……. 😂😂😂😂😂

@@christianpoint0888 I think Rivers had more talent as a QB as well. He did have an odd throwing motion but it was effective. Manning was a solid QB but there wasn't a point where I thought he was a top 5 QB over his career. Not sure I'll call it a yawn, but the fact that you did gave me a good laugh. 🤣😆

@@theunlikelysuccess your angle & how u broke down the different situations was very engaging ! Outeffingstanding !

@@theunlikelysuccess I used to envision Geoff and Stafford passing each other at the airport in Stafford giggling while Geoff was giving him the bird ! 😂😂😂😂

Thanks, wasn't sure if it was going to be too long of a video honestly.

@theblazindragon420 For sure. There are some organizations that need to transition the management before success can happen, regardless of players.

@Yungbrose For sure!

@SpittUp I have always thought Rivers was a step above Eli but the playoffs were a different story. Eli was calm when the game was on the line, but he wasn't all of a sudden an MVP. They aren't top tier all time QBs but both had pretty good careers.

@bigpapapaycheck Thanks!

@christophergravelle9536 Kirk is one of the best businessmen ever in the NFL!!!

@brianbadonde9251 Thanks and welcome to the channel!

@IceSick88 Much appreciated

@snarkymcsnarkles3493 Yea, he isn't a Hall of Famer but he was definitely a very good quarterback. And, it seems like he's a great guy based on what I could find.

@thomascox9362 Completely agree. I think teams have gotten obsessed with QB first overall rather than who is the most talented. It's largely due to many of the trade ups, but still I think they should go after who the true best player is.

@KuroiRenge Absolutely agree. Stafford played well for Detroit nearly every year and carried some pretty bad teams. I'm a Rams fan, but Stafford was also a player I think most supported when he won.

@ftwsam2246 I think Andrew would have needed to find a great coach to beat KC. Not sure if that would have happened and he probably would have kept them too good to pick at the top end of any drafts. Indy did not do him a lot of favors in his time there.

@kpk33x I have always thought Rivers was top tier, but you're not wrong about the talent. I always thought Eli was a step below, but it's fair to say he had less talent on offense. I think the Giants defenses were better than the Chargers though. For Big Ben, I think his off field stuff overshadows how good he was on it. He also had a lot of talent over the years, but he was always pretty good. Anyway you look at the three, it's one of the best QB draft classes ever.

@jdigitalseven7 The Colts literally broke Luck. It was a shame.

@dylanjwagner Thanks for the constructive feedback. Hard to find these days on the internet. This was my first stab at a video this length, but will keep working at improving for sure.

@zeromega4541 Hopefully he ends up in the HOF. If the vantage point is that the HOF should include players you cannot tell the story of the NFL without then I would say he is very deserving. His toughness is absolutely legendary, not to mention his loyalty. Everything you said is true, and I forgot all about the Jim Bob Cooter experience. Man, they did MegaTron and Stafford dirty during all those years.

@@theunlikelysuccess It's tough being a Stafford fan especially back in the day. He put up video game numbers and everyone just gives the credit to the era. Because nobody knew how bad these OC guys were in Detroit until they screwed up some other franchise. Nobody knew how bad Scott Lienhan was at his job until he went to Dallas and the cowboys fans were calling for his head every week for mismanaging the offense. Nobody knew how bad Joe Lombardi was until he shat the bed with the chargers due to complete incompetence. No body knew that Matt Patrica took play calling duties away from Bevell as soon as he felt a bit of heat and proceeded to throw screen passes for the next 2 years until we went back to New England and threw a bunch of screen passes. They just pass off as it's a passing era or he had Megatron. He did have Megatron but what he didn't have was the option to the run a foreign concept like a bunch formation because the lions never had a 4th WR on the roster while he was in Detroit. Don't get me started on the Odell Beckham mistake. There biggest need was at WR in the 2014 draft in a stacked WR draft and they took a tight end. The next 2 WR off the board were Brandin Cooks and Odell Beckham Jr. Nope the lions would rather draft a TE and promote a guy off the practice squad. I need to watch the new lions. I'm getting the old feelings back.

@zeromega4541 Those days are behind you. As a Rams fan, I'd like to say you're welcome for the real game changer for the Lions, Brad Holmes. He is an awesome GM. Lions have been hitting on so many picks since he got there. It's nice to see Detroit relevant. Plus, as you have outlined their history is laughably bad. Well, maybe tragically from your end.

@daviidtaplin1115 I feel like this too. Goff has certain limitations, but he has definitely become a very good QB. The questions from his early days never seemed to go away though.

@hahahazxc Fair enough. I add the clips for context but noted on being more intentional with the usage.

@LT_Trex3234 I still think Lawrence will be a pretty good QB. His biggest obstacle is that the scouts and media called him generational, so anything short of a few MVP's and Super Bowl will not change their narrative.

@@theunlikelysuccess fair point

@dmnant2750 I think it's more realistic than people think. He's 18 games over .500 with a 2 -1 TD - INT ratio. Over 9 years, he has had two losing seasons and has 4 years with 4,000 or more yards. His numbers are probably going to at least be HOF worthy. He will likely throw for 300+ TDs and 50,000+ yards.

@@theunlikelysuccesshe has to win a championship to even be considered

@@matthewl3002 You think so? I think that will help, but it's going to be interesting how they view these guys with great numbers post-2000.

@@theunlikelysuccess he’s in the Russell Wilson category IMO where they’re both very good QBs, but they lack the hardware necessary to be Hall of Famers (All Pros, MVPs or even votes since Wilson never even got a single vote, and in Goff’s case a SB ring)

@PattyErskine Vick's career is an all-time destruction and redemption story. He was in the middle of becoming the face of the NFL but made terrible choices. He's also a rare person who has been rehabilitated, or from the outside it appears that way.

Animal abuse is a greed thing?

​@@GinkgoPete at least part of it he was making alot of money on those underdog fights. Greedy didn't need to do that being a millionaire

@@djereturns11I don't agree with dog fighting at all but tbh it's weird that ppl accept cock fighting not dogs... yes that's our BFs but at the end of the day they are both animals and in reality ita both wrong.

Stopp the cap, Vick is a hall of fame level tallent

@SimeonToko I do wonder if Rivers could have been as clutch as Eli was in the playoff runs. Hard to know though.

@lobotomyscam1051 Today, that's true, but prior to the dog fighting Vick was already a cultural phenomenon. After them though, it's clear what the impact became. My point was/is Vick was once seen as the coolest NFL QB and on track to contend for the face of the NFL. Your point about how he is viewed and what he is remembered for largely though, is valid.

@d1jacobhansen987 Could say the same for most. Goff is competent and he can make all the throws. I think the primary problem he has is media narrative. He's pretty good and runs the Detroit offense fully, it's not the same guy I watched with the Rams.

@@theunlikelysuccess sure that applies to an extent but Jared Goff is a qb who can’t win u big games I mean he had the opportunity in the nfc championship but I remember him sailing an open post route that would’ve been the dagger of the game, and I’ll say this teams don’t trade a qb and give up 1st round picks for another qb if they really are legit and especially the way the rams won RIGHT after that’ll always just show how limited Goff is in my opinion

@@theunlikelysuccess I think qbs like him and Dak are complete products of their system and sure their ok qbs but not worth their contract at all.

@@d1jacobhansen987 I'm not claiming he's one of the best ever, but they should have won that 49ers game. I thought their defense let them down and Goff played well enough to win. I will say that Goff was not good enough for the Rams to win the Super Bowl in their window, but I still think he could get one. Goff had taken them to a Super Bowl, but there was a changing of their offense and I'm not sure McVay and Goff were getting along all that well but it doesn't help Goff's case that they traded him along with picks to get Stafford.

@@theunlikelysuccess tbh I just think that you can find a qb that can play at his level with the talent that he has around him, but for a much cheaper contract so you can put even more talent around that qb but who knows maybe he gets lucky and wins a big game

@timothyt2981 I don't remember saying they were a 'good' team, but I think they were a decently run organization. They also happened to perfectly time two generational talents at QB.

@long060 Lol, that's an error on my part. I start with 2000 and should have added that note....otherwise to your point....it seems like I believe the draft started in 2000

@DannyG21 Eli was built different overall. He had two of all-time postseason runs though, and it makes him memorable.

6 Pro Bowls, top 50 receiving yards, but injuries damage his case. His stats could be justified as worthy, and he's been consistent but no All-Pro teams or playoff runs...not sure how they're going to treat some of the great stat guys but a lot of QB's and WR's are going to have high totals that can't really be completely ignored.

@isaiahwilliams2332 I firmly believe in building through the lines, but I would say take best player available at #1. A lot of these QBs were not the best player in their draft class, but I don't think teams should pigeon hole themselves into one position with #1 overall.

@jdigitalseven7 You think so? There were other fast QBs but Vick had elite NFL speed. His accuracy was definitely an issue and he has admitted to not taking football seriously when he was in Atlanta. Appreciate the comment!

@zcrouch13 I'm not saying he's a lock....but he's going to have a case. It will be interesting what the HOF uses as the new barometer for getting in.

As a Seahawks fan I believe that if stays consistent especially if Goff wins a super bowl he will be.