THE TRUTH about the LAVERNE & SHIRLEY Feud! 

Thank you so much for your kind words, Allan. I am glad you are enjoying the channel!

So true 👍🏻

@@jdsundstrom Will there be a Tribute video to Cindy Williams?

cbdsw Ditto! Best comment on the chat.

@@GeraBrown I agree.

Gera Brown 🔶TOTALLY AGREE!🔶 Thankful for reruns and RU-vid, for sure!!!

Me too....me too!!!!

me too

You're welcome, Keith! I'm glad you are enjoying the vids. :)

I like Lavern and Shirley it is clean comedy. 😀

Keith Ehredt I was 9 when Laverne and Shirley debuted. And I remember thinking how racy hearing them talk about Voo dodo. And I remember not being able to laugh to hard at the innuendo of sex. If I had my old fuddy duddy Mom would of called off me being able to watch the show any longer.

Totally agree, Raymond!

That said. I recall those 'action' drama shows like Airwolf, Mcgyver, A Team may have taken over the silly 70s sitcoms, yet themselves were shown the door in only 3 or 4 seasons later the 80s decade had very high turnover competition with Cable.

Like Three's Company, Alice, One Day At a Time ect.

@@marieantoinettescake9513 Happy Days lasted 10 whole years. Still laff about that 1974-84. The whole Country mindset had changed alot in that decade.

Didn't it ever.

The show runs on LOGO now.

I always thought they would get a spinoff.

Lenny and Squiggly should have had their own show!

My younger cousin and I would do that (same cousin who was certain that "Hasenpfeffer Incorporated" was where the girls worked, as opposed to Schots Brewery)

But did you Die 😂😂😂😂 laffin Of course

Why do they always do that?!!?

Twas the 80s. The competition was tuff.

@@jdsundstrom It was the '79 season and ABC had been #1 for 4 seasons, so they were a bunch of swollen heads! They thought their shows would be hits anywhere on the schedule and they could just move them anywhere to be lead-ins for new shows. The morons reckoned without the viewers' feelings about THEIR habits and schedules. This folly allowed CBS to regain the lead in the spring of 1980, denying ABC 5 full seasons at the top

@@jdsundstrom Dave, one word that comes to mind which describes the mindset of ABC executives then would be "hubris".

Remember when ABC cancelled taxi? And NBC pick up the the series.

Thank you for the kind words, MIPM!

@@jdsundstrom you're very welcome, brother!

It was actually the electric company but still very funny.

@@jennifersebbo9039 Yup ... getting old. Wasn't too long ago that I'd convinced myself that Lavern's dad was portrayed by two different actors...

Justin Tyme how about when they wore stolen dresses to a fancy party and the snob matriarch said- well I never and Shirley said- it shows honey. Lol

@@robertstalnaker5728 Pure classic! wow this video took me back. Makes me kind of sad that nothing "new" makes me laugh even half as much as the sitcom gold of the 70's and 80's.

Stephen Adams: Musical Interpretations & Satire 🤣🤣🤣... I forgot about that piece of dialogue 🤣🤣

@@Leadeshipcoach It's from the first episode, or for sure one of the first 3.

Shirley: Once!

I was looking for that phrase! thank you

Enzo 1965 you forgot to keep scrolling🙄

That's pretty cool, Thomas! Even if it just came from the show's publicity department. :)

Agreed. I know it's a sit-com...but really? Everybody followed them to California?

Denise Boldea I remember my best friend moved to Michigan with her parents around the same time as they moved. And thinking dang I wish we lived in sitcom land just so I could move to.

And then years later, Charlie Harper bought their Maliboo beach front condo...

Dave Sundstrom yeah

Chatsworth Osbourne Jr. Yup

I can see why they would want Cindy to audition for the part. Still, I'm glad Carrie Fisher got the part. I can't imagine anyone else in the role.

Ironically carrie Fisher who played princess Leia's in star wars was penny Marshall s best friend.

I would have lost it.

Hey big mouth. What's your response from big deal?

hungry jerk that’s awesome! She was funny in Naked Space.

@@SonnyGTA she was very nice. Everything she said about Penny was positive.

I hadn't heard that one. Thanks for sharing, Wild1995!

@@jdsundstrom Yeah, they touch on this in one of the Behind The Camera movies.

They also made sure that the "Laverne" was lower on the screen than the "Shirley", since Lavern's name came first in the title, Shirley's name was higher up to, again, even things out.

Wild1995 I heard that too. I remember it wasn’t even just lines. It was actually words. If one of them had a word more the other would pitch a fit. God how juvenile. Fighting over the number of words each got to say per show. I personally would of hated having to deal with that. And I probably would of told them both to knock this immature bs off.

I remember Penny Marshall, in a later interview, defending Cindy Williams’ position. The discussion was about the “feud” which didn’t really seem like a feud when Marshall described it, but more like an awkward situation...especially for Williams. Gary Marshall, Lowell Ganz, and Mark Rothman were already a hugely successful director/producer/writing team with Happy Days fame under their belt. Of course, Penny Marshall was Gary’s sisters, so it was almost like she was an instant part of that group...and then in come Cindy Williams, who, from the beginning, seemed like the outsider. Now this was Marshall explaining how the entire thing “appeared” for someone like Cindy, who though billed as an equal star in the show, may have felt she was expected to help Marshall/Ganz/Rothman launch Penny into Fonzie-level stardom. It’s been years since I saw that interview, so I don’t remember every detail about what Marshall said - only that she could see how the whole thing looked to Williams....and that that certainly couldn’t have helped the situation of two equally-billed stars, when it seemed all the people involved were Penny’s people. Add to that the fact that taping and rehearsals were always a nightmare....so many times getting it done only at the last minute...never going home on time, while simultaneously always watching the Happy Days crew leaving set at a respectable time each day, because the rhythm was so tried and true there that it was easy for them to wrap-up on time.

You are most welcome, Julio!

Shirley's fabian scream is iconic.

Oh yeah!!! The BEST!

bill thompson Same.

That was my first thought too

@Marshall W I agree 100%

I said that same thing when I saw her pic!

I was think the same thing. She does remain you of her.

Great info, Michael! Thanks for sharing.

Omg i was there too wtf

Yep, her husband was Bill Hudson (one of the Hudson Brothers, I believe) and he was also telling her that she was being mistreated.

@@jdsundstrom I didn't know that it was that many problem they were having in the production. I didn't watch it that much afterward, I couldn't catch the time slot when it was on.

Shelly Blanchard yup

Dave Sundstrom yup

@@tiffprendergast it was better when they were together on the show. it looks like though they could have made a story line for that purpose. it has 35 years ago so we can watch it the reruns. Sorry if I sound a little uptight.

Little Ogeechee I totally agree. Very sad to see the show go that route.

The show was never the same after the move.

I LOVED it AT FIRST!!! Xo

Trumpenstein uhm, not talking about where the show was filmed, most television is filmed in either NYC or L.A., talking about where the fictional characters were living...They simply were not suited at all to Hollywood...it was just a stupid move on the part of the writers...

And only Garry Marshall wanted to move them, Penny and Cindy both have stated that they thought it was a terrible idea and never wanted to move the setting

Absolutely Grant!

Also, if you were into classic video games of the 90s, there was a graphic adventure by the company Sierra, called King’s Quest VI. Therein is a genie character also called Schlemiel Schlimazel. Both clumsy and unlucky, as the story plays out.

"Jerry is both the schlameel and the schlemozzle."-Ron Swanson

@magusxxx You have the definitions for those two words reversed. A schlemiel is an awkward, or unlucky person, and a schlimazel is an accident-prone person.

I fondly remember an episode of “Taxi” where Louie DePalma described the difference between the the two: a schlimiel is the guy who goes to a formal dinner and spills his soup...a schlimazel is the guy he spilled his soup on. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mcZLRgenQ6Y.html

Angela Pritula I’ve heard of that

Hello mlk27743, Where did they live at back in those days ? , John from North Carolina.

A.D. yeah

mlk27743 yeah

How did they go to each others homes....Penny lived in New York....Cindy Williams lived in Van Nuys , Calif. Please explain...thanks...John from North Carolina.

I don’t know the answer to your question but just watched a video where they sat next to each other and said the same thing. Cindy said she’d get into bed with Penny and watch movies and Penny nodded along. Maybe one of them moved later in life.

One of my favorite TV theme songs as well, MGB!

She was such a talented director!

You are most welcome, Jonathan!

No mention of Lynda Carter?!

Cindy Williams was a mega cutie pie !

What about Ginger and Mary Ann?

Michael Hein Two more Hotties!.But I guess I always like the wholesomeness Marie,Maureen and Cindy portrayed..Then again,you don’t get much more wholesome than Maryann!.

Thanks for sharing, RuleofFive!

David and Michael were a bonus.

cant remember the word they used for sex

Wild1995! Again, you amaze me with your great information!

@@jdsundstrom Being on a #1 show almost from the start can go to someone's head I guess. It was an incredible show. So glad they made up in the end and realized their jealousy was superficial.

I thought the tension was about Penny and her family. Penny's family control everything.

Corey Thorne Lol I had forgotten about Boo-boo kitty til I read this comment. Didn’t Ed Begley Jr play Shirley’s kid brother. I think the story of Boo-Boo Kitty was. That when her kid brother was brought home from the hospital. They gave her Boo-Boo Kitty just to show her she was still special. But Shirley after Laverne mentioned how weird it was that everyone in her family was blonde but Shirley had dark hair. Shirley thought she was adopted. And Shirley’s mother had to come show Shirley her birth certificate to show her she was really part of the family.

@@maryallison0509 Hello @Mary Allison, is there any eposides with Cindy William's mother in it ? Please reply....thanks...John from North Carolina.

@@johnsteelman1410 From What I could find on Google. Yes we have met Mrs Feeney. Patricia Carroll. It didn't give the episode number or episode name. But I bet if you typed Pat Carroll \ Laverne and Shirley into RU-vid you could probably find it. Or maybe into Google. Good luck.

@@johnsteelman1410 her real mom was in an episode with Pennys mom/ There is some debate if the re runs show the entire segment with their moms. Some say its edited on the dvds /re runs others say they air the entire segment. Its season 3 Episode 16, titled The Second Almost Annual Shotz Talent Show

Betty, pick up your hash blacks.

That was Hilarious!🤣🤣

Me too! Yuck huh

I think it's all about getting the ratio of Pepsi to milk just right.

I tried it too.... not very good. But a pepsi float with a scoop of vanilla ice cream was and is still good!

Never was curious

As a kid, I tried it, but using Coke and milk. I really liked it and drank it lots of times.

Thanks for sharing!

Me too, John!

Yep. Surpassing the show that it was spun off from!

It was so great at the time. All TV channels aired happier and more positive Shows. Then it all turned into Murder and Drama. The 70s were where you could laugh and have enjoyment, entertainment but it shifted in the 80s. You no longer watched to be uplifted, it was over-the-top stress and violence.

Oh yeah! LOVED Saturday nights with The Carol Burnett Show! Some of her skits were an absolute SCREAM! 😆😆😆 Saturday nights weren’t the same when the show went off the air in ‘78. Those were the days!

It was basically a tie for #1 with Three's Company because the ratings were so close.

I'm glad you enjoyed the video, John!

Best wishes to you as well, TAO TAO!

Great comments, Gera! Thanks for sharing. :)

@@jdsundstrom Just ran back because I forgot to mention the album! I was listening to a lot of older music in '77 what with the pop music landscape changing. L&S Sings was a retro-styled album that appealed to me. The singing was forgivable in that it was like a take-off on early '60s girl groups. A well-produced effort with an original song or two. Check out "Five Years On", co-written by Michael McKean, who was Lenny in L&S but later in, well you know the movie.

Shirley Willamina Feeney.

same here. The move to California and Laverne becoming a nun kinda did it for me.

@@vxy357 hated it when they left Milwaukee.

Blayne, excellent names for hamsters.

We named our wild bats that nested in our awning every year after them!!! Lol

Cindy Williams husband at the time, was Bill Hudson, former husband of Goldie Hawn.

It would have been nice to have had the show run a couple more seasons.

You're right, CraftAero! "American Graffiti" definitely was the inspiration for "Happy Days".

Wow!!

Me too. then again I was 12 when I read this article at my parents cabin and was remembering a few weeks earlier a fellow classmate on a girl scout trip trying to coax an ant out of the tent. Penny's comment still stuck with me all these years too

He seemed very controlling- Also disowning his own son (With Goldie Hawn) over a slight seemed extreme

@A.D. You can find side A and B here on YT already. Here is side A: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0RPIa4vvneQ.html

All part of the creativity process!

Thanks so much, brian70Cuda!

@@jdsundstrom You are very welcome my friend.