A lot of questions on the subject of UPS training, (or lack thereof) and also about people quitting within the first two weeks. And the truth is that the situation was as bad as all the rumors you've heard...
As a safty rep i can unfortunately say that supervisor and management don't care about your safety. Half the time they get chewed out for working unsafe themselves
I've been at UPS for over 4 years. I totally understand when you said the other guy was suddenly gone. I call UPS package handlers "Magicians" for their ability to straight up vanish.
My hiring to UPS was a nightmare; It started fine. They called me for a basic walk around of the warehouse. After a long talk and a walk around (lasting 2 hours) they told me they would call me for my first shift. But I never got the call, three week's later I got a phone call saying they fired me for not showing up for two weeks.
K. Starrk I was making over $16 hr in 1989 as a unloader sorter.your union sold you out in contract in 1981.ups wanted employee turnover that's why you guys are making less than I did 35 to 40 yrs ago.
@@nathanhoernis6059 I make 20 an hour loading. Loading is hard… I load 3-4 trailers a day for the past 3 years. The truth is, if you are soft you will sink…. If you have a decent work ethic and can handle the labor you will swim. It is what it is.
I'm not so sure about that. In the Primary Sort, we risk packages over 30lbs falling off belts and causing bodily injury. we're required to sort at an 1100pph pace, giving only 3 seconds to read the label (which isn't always facing up) , lift/carry/lower the package, and place it on the belt, which leaves little room for "hand to surface" handling without more than a year's experience in the position. The sort is often changing (practically arbitrarily), and much of the finer points of sorting such as Air Services and "bypass bags" are not covered during on the job training. Also, Sorters dont have much control over the pace, beyond stopping the unloader (who may or may not even listen). Not only are sorters at the mercy of the unloaders, the outbound can't always keep up with the sorters, and we have to stack the stopped belt in the aisle, taking time away from the sort both to stack without compromising egress or risking missorts due to there being belts and chutes at floor level, with little to stop errant packages from falling on and being missorted. Not to mention, that sort suffers more abuse by the floor manager, than anywhere else, including Small Sort, who needs to close off it's intake ah hour or so before downtime because it can't keep pace with the primary. Finally, that 1 measly extra dollar per hour that comes with the position being classed as "skilled" doesn't make up for the shit I've already mentioned, or that the job seems to require babysitting the unloader from 30+ feet away, depending on depth of load and length of trailer. Oh, and our take home pay can often be less than the "unskilled" unloaders, because most of us don't get to work past the Unload's down time, sometimes we start getting downsized before the unload even starts going down.
Cover driving is WAY worse because you get sent out in the blind constantly and have to try and find all the crap behind your bulkhead that the 18 year old kid just put wherever. I honestly think preloaders would be MUCH better if they would make preloaders go on a route with a driver whose package car they've loaded and see how bad load quality can totally screw somebody's day up. That would go a long way toward giving preloaders an appreciation for how it really helps us if they do their best. I know they are in there getting screwed every day too though.
I worked preload for the last 8 months, it sucks, the hours suck (1am to about 9:30am), its a HOT warehouse, the fans do nothing, you bust your ass for 11 bucks an hour and you have to be done before the drivers have to leave no matter how many pieces you have on each truck. I loaded 4 trucks and they each had no less than 170 pieces a day. one of them had nearly 500 daily. Tried out to be a driver and they don't make that easy either.
Amen brother.. I’m a new hire, it is stressful as hell. The deadline for air packages makes it so you start off in a good rush to meet the deadline. Being a cover driver in a new area without GPS can be overwhelming at times. Also, simply being responsible for a 12,000lb vehicle in areas with heavy traffic (especially pedestrians & cyclists) adds to the already high stress level. You’re essentially in charge of a giant mobile weapon that can take a pedestrian’s life just as easy as a firearm. This job definitely requires a tough mindset, you have to be able to manage stress and a little fear every now and then.
Did all that... I'm in feeders now. We are like the cattle left to graze in the field to retirement 😉. It's like a different company. True night and day difference....
If you are willing to work that hard at any other job that you start ,say own a window washing company for houses ,you will make lots more money working that hard for your self .
We have been complaining about this for over 20 years. But on the bright side. The struggles you live through at UPS will turn you into an unstoppable force on the outside of UPS. If you can do UPS you can do any job put in front of you after you leave...33 years and finishing.Moving on to the next challenge!!
I’m sure he has great insurance ^^ and I feel the same way about Walmart cap 2 If you can do that you can do anything (physically demanding) I’ve been at Ups for a year now It’s a very physical job and a lot of common sense basically
Oh man, they didn't really train me either, I almost quit my second week. Now 12 years later I'm driving my own route and dealing with a whole new slew of BS from management... Gotta love it.
Ultimately it pays well, but it's not a dream job. I get kicked in the teeth a lot in the videos by die hard "UPSers" who cuss at me for what I have to say, but they never "actually" dispute my descriptions of the work environments...
I dunno, I love my job but, the relationship between supervisors and union members is all screwed up. Management never follows the union contract, they make up their own rules. Every time anybody files a grievance it's pretty much 99 percent guaranteed that they will get harassed by management.
If somebody is without a job and really wants to work they make it happen. They ask other preloaders " hey what do i do in the case of this or that?" It kinda sucks but ive been there 15 years been delivering full time 8 years. The job isnt for everyone, i am happy though and so is my wife and three kids.
You must have been at the worst building ever :( I had a full week of hands on classroom training.. watched every freaking video..and they really worked with us to see where we belonged. I could tell our trainer loved her job. I’ve been doing preload for awhile now and I guess I’m sick in the head because I love it lol
My trainer was legit. I have nothing bad to say about him, but UPS on the other hand..... Seemed like a very negative work environment. If you can handle the constant pressure and harassment, it pays very well... Personally, it wasn't for me.
You are absolutely right. The only thing they care about is their own liability. They will tell you the safety measures yet expect you to break them because they know fully well that their efficiency is hindered by those parameters.
@@wagzzzz only difference is UPS has the potential to mess you up and when they tell you to pick up the pace it increases risk for that and then when something goes wrong they'll pretend it wasnt because they were pressuring you and that it was your fault for not following procedure
@@BUCKETHEADache you have the potential to mess yourself up. You never have to over work yourself I see it every day lazy ass people working slow and they still have a job. Take your time and know your limits they can't touch you
Think, if UPS paid the package handler $20.00 a hour and up, what will the driver's say. Loading and unloading is the hardest job in UPS. The pay do not match the work load.
@@bussjuicekdkd102 sticking is not enforced. They like to tell you that you must know stick but that is a lie. Talk to a union rep and watch how they tell you that you dont need it. Clean record is all.
Israel Martinez jeez, the lost arts.... driving a stick is so easy you could learn it in a day. If that’s an obstacle holding you back you have bigger problems.
This is all true UPS is the worst with training with preload. Yet they send drivers to Intergrad for a week of training but only a couple of hours at the most for preloaders. Most preload supervisors suck to a lot of them are young and have no management skills whatsoever.
Hay David, I'm a supervisor at UPS. If I tell my hourly to come in early I have to pay them, so here's the thing, ask to file a grievance against your supervisor. You were abused and mislead, and I'm sorry you had a bad experience
I did seasonal work for UPS in Michigan this past Holiday Season. One thing I can say about UPS; we received some of the best driver and lifting / moving training I've ever received with any employer.
Just looked it up. UPS pays their drivers 74k a year. You can get a job installing alarm systems with zero experience and make 80k or more starting your first year.
When you factor in overtime pay, I make well over 100k+/year driving for UPS. The health care/benefits are some of the best in American business. Throw in that 401 k and pension when you retire, it's a fantastic company to work for if you tough it out through the hub/package handler days. Something tells me, there are not going to be as many job openings for alarm installers as there will be for Delivery Drivers, so UPS still gives you a higher percent chance of making a six figure income.
The harder you have to work, the less money you will earn. The president of UPS stinks up his office chair in the morning ,then stinks up the golf course in the afternoon while you're earning 15 / hr. See how it works ?
The guy making this video is such a pansy that he couldn't even load. It would be hilarious watching him try to drive. LOL! If you think "watching videos" can get you ready for the hub then you are a moron. You're either willing to get your butt kicked for a job that's awesome in the long run or you're not. It sounds terrible but it's honestly that simple. I've been at it for 16 years now and sometimes have terrrrrible days but still couldn't imagine doing anything else where I can make the money I do at UPS. That's for sure.
Tomorrow will be my second week working for UPS as a Preloader. My hours are from 4 in the morning till 9:30. Primarily I load three trucks, but this week had me doing 4 and that was pushing me beyond my limit. Lol. But it’s true where I work. The sups have said that for every other new hire that comes in, they leave as soon as their 10 min break starts and are never seen again lol.
Samething happened to me. No training, stuck me in four trucks an complained about my missloads an my freaking scanner didn’t work half the time I was there smh and we didn’t even get breaks. It’s so faced pace no one person can possibly keep up with the flow of the belt
Coffee Talk yeah ups and every other company there is. Injury claims cost more than being unproductive. For example, I saw a kid coming down a ladder once and he wasn’t facing it. He was walking down a ladder like it was a set of stairs. Well, he tripped on his own feet and smacked his face on the concrete floor. In your opinion who should pay for that injury claim? They teach stuff like 3 points of contact to protect you from yourself. Big companies know how stupid people are so they teach this stuff to cover their asses when can’t get right losers do the wrong thing.
Tyrone Higginbottom anyone on a belt that isn’t properly locked out is a dismal offense that the union can’t and won’t fight. The poster claims that he wasn’t given the proper basic training the lifting rules the safety walking rules the lock out safety rules the driving rules the HazMat training the leaking package training. I had to take the training every year because I worked in a Package Center Hub and Air gateway even though I was in IT or in Package Center operations. I use to have to setup training rooms in the smaller centers at yearly training time. I had to have two hours training minimum every week for the ten years I worked with the Technology Support Group(TSG) plus a full day of training every six months after the employee relations index survey results were reviewed a typical 12 hour day. He claims that he was told to come in early and do his training on his time no way would a supervisor tell someone that you were not on the clock for training. in my time in operations I submitted the centers timecards for both drivers and insiders for over two years we were still on paper timecards that had to be faxed to the district office then the digital timecards had to be transmitted the last thing I did after I sent the DIAD delivery data and setup the next delivery day. The guy complains about the supervisors and managers being hard asses so what I have been in public service since leaving big brown and management is no different and I worked at GM before big brown not much different there as a computer programmer and mainframe computer operator you have deadlines to meet and thousands of employees worked or stood around being paid for nothing. At the air gateway the jets could not takeoff or a pilot would not even do a preflight unless my computers were able to print the FAA required documents if a flight was delayed for anything other than weather or a mechanical all late takeoffs had to be reported to the FAA and UPS flight operations and UPS corporate. I had a few times that I had to jump through hoops to get the system or a printer back online to meet the 9:30pm takeoff while having to guarantee to the WorldPort flight operations manager that the aircraft would be in the air by the departure time then write a memo explaining everything that had to go to the TSG manager the district and regional managers the Flight operations manager and corporate in Atlanta. The poor snowflake he had to deal with a hard ass supervisor he never would have survived dealing with corporate management
@@CoffeeTalkLive you're just an old man that couldn't hang and trying to blame ups. I agree the training could be better but the least they do is enforce safety.
I took a ups job out of necessity of money but I'm gonna quit tomorrow on my third week because 10$ for back breaking work isn't worth it. I already have had arm and back issues from unloading trucks. I was working 900pph sweating my ass off and my part time supervisor sent me home against my will I think because I wasn't working to his standards. I'm basically fed up and gonna find another job to save my time and body.
It's not all rosy like some people like to make it sound. You will eventually get good pay, but you've got to stick it out for almost a decade first, and you take a beating the whole time.
900pph is pretty good, i did 1000+ when i started. im still there closing in on 4 years. im looking to take my class for hand scanner for the drivers early next year. one thing that needs (DESPERATELY) to change is how Sunday's operate. It's pathetic to be honest, some Sundays we don't get out at their predicted time and we also have a lot of people who take pub. trans. (those buses that run to ups don't run) to get to work so those people are sitting on a hot ass school bus for 30-45mins. for everyone else to get out. i can walk to work/home when i feel like it and i get home long before the school bus pulls off.
Lol he not lying🤣🤣🤣🤣 . Got 2 love UPS. Been here 12yrs now . Yall lucky i was in a truck my 2nd day . We watched 1 video then was told the hub had a shortage of workers an needed us asap. We asked about the training and was told we will learn as we go and report 2 the pd we were working not the class.
Coffee Talk I give my pre-loader 50 dollars a weak, besides saying thank you... on behalf of most drivers, because there's a bunch of Asshole drivers. Thank you for working hard and hang in there.
Coffee Talk I guess I'm a little old fashioned... and I'm always on supervisors on over working you guys. Pre-loaders can make your day, IF treated with respect and a simple thank you for doing a great job... I'm out of Cerritos.
Lou Dozer241 thats why i work in the unload section. stay out of my trailer and let me do my thing and i just hope the wall of boxes after the one im on is better.
I'm trying to get on with them and first day today for the interview I could tell they were full of BS, I've learn a thing or two being in the pipe welding world, grass is never greener on the other side and when a driving supervisor keeps saying its easy its easy I knew then he was full of it. Pipe welding is easy to me but i sure as hell know it isn't easy for everyone.
I lasted 5 weeks at UPS as a loader. They came up to me on my last day and said I has 4 unnscanned packages the day before and then said I was being let go. I'm not a quieter but I did like being fired on that day.
A few years back when I lived in United States I work for Walmart and they pretty much the same thing I was supposed to take a test for material safety data sheets the test was never completed my first day there I wasn't trained they literally threw me out onto the floor and told me to stock the shelves. Later that month they tried to give me a write-up for not completing my safety task that may I remind you they never told me I had to do. After the first two months of working at Walmart I ended up quitting I couldn't demoralize myself working for them Walmart is completely disorganized the managers don't communicate it was basically a six ring circus and anything goes as long as the job gets done.
I am a UPS driver, I'm off everyday before 5pm....I would work hard no matter where I work. Its not for everybody, if your lazy your not gonna last. $36.49 an hour and rising. Its to easy......
I started up with ups thinking this is a free gym. i go workout for about 5-7 hours daily while getting paid $14 an hr. And my wife and 2 kids gets taken care of whenever they need the health provider. And now i am making OVER $30 an hour and can afford a house and 3 cars just only myself is the income. This company is a future career and not a present. To start you need to be able to adjust yourself to learn the safety yourself and do your own way and just follow a basic rules. And be smart about everything surroundings. The example is al those people who made top rate paid and almost retired. :-)
UPS is a good job but you have to have somebody vouch for you on the inside as is with most union jobs you have to go to the UNION get the skinny on things get the training and you get good there. After you get the job the bank is there IF you got the hand up you require to make it there.
Same training I had at UPS.....and as security for the Dallas Cowboys stadium. To get my security liscense, we took a test.... it was something like from King of the Hill. "Remember what I taught you...A.B.B.C.A.D.D"
It's a hard job but the pay is great, and great benefits. All my training after I got hired was payed. They will take advantage of you if you let them, so learn the contract. If you go in early before the start time you're working for free.
Well Patriot 1 it's like this. Yes it's hard work the first few years. Then you get up on the seniority list and can bid better routes. Ten years in I went to feeders. Long story short I worked for them from 1969 until 1999. Retired and have been getting $3000.00 from the pension plan. That's 20 years od pay for sitting around enjoying life. I think it was worth the hard work. Oh by they way I'm 73 right now.
I worked as a package handler for two days recently and I walked after that. No training, bad pay, extremely negative work environment. I like doing laborious jobs but I need to be respected lol fuck alla that. The drivers often say it's a good job if you're "someone who enjoys being abused" lmao no thanks.
What should I expect on my first day of TRAINING as a delivery driver?? What can you tell me about first day of TRAINING how many weeks of TRAINING do I get????
This one time, I had to dig a hole, I spent several hours pacing around, pointing out all the problems, such as the ground was to stiff, the weather was to hot, I didn't sleep right the night before, my shovel wasn't sharp enough...then all of a sudden my balls dropped, and I dug the hole. And that was when I realized, the only thing preventing me from succeeding, was me.
Thank you!!! These cry babies complaining "it's too hard" or "it's too fast paced, I can't keep up" hate to see these folks at any other real job! If you want a slacker job go to GameStop and stare at your phone all day for minimum wage. You have a hell of an opportunity here if you can just ride it out. Heck even the part timers get full benefits...where else does that???
My attempt to get a job there was around this time last year. I went to some little hiring fair they were doing, watched them interview some guy for 30 minutes (hired on spot) and then the lady talked to me for like 10 minutes, handed me a card and told me they would call me in a few days (such and such will call)....never heard from them again. It was like 90 degrees out, I was wearing a makeshift suit and had all kinds of resume and paperwork with me and those mofo's wasted my time. Never went to any kind of tour or anything. This is why I believe people that claim to be TI's. I have lots of stories.
I quit after three days because it was a terrible job Hr lied to me they told me I was going to carry more than 68 pounds After I unload the truck the manager said no HR lie to you you have to carry 300 pounds by yourself after three days I never went back
OK Coffee Talk. I loaded five trucks as a preloader . They hired me a helper . It was a tough job,but paid well. Sorry about the training ,but a lot of people are lazy
Thanks for this. I just started yesterday and im already being rushed. I didnt have any training for the diad except for one day. My driver that i was helping was telling me that i need to step up. Like WTF i just started
I quit after three days I haven’t had any training so that shows you have a PDF of this shitty job to work for I quit after three days and I was fucking exhausted thank God I quit I will never go back to that shitty job again now I know why so many people are quitting UPS
They should be in trouble for Unethical business practices! There is no excuse for what employees with them and what customers experienced on their end. This kind of stuff makes me wonder if we should have Robots to replace businesses that are being poorly managed and doing people wrong! They used to be great!
Here's the thing...if we REALLY dug into just how many companies have "unethical" business practices...our way of life would probably jump back at least a good 20 years. Say bye to your iPhone, bye to Amazon Prime one day shipping,, bye to your Starbucks, etc. And I agree with this other person...replace humans with robots...what are people going to do for a source of income??? I swear the world is going to end up just like that movie "Idiocracy".
i do the unload split and i love it honestly its like getting paid to work out and everyone i work with is great so idk maybe my ups is a lot diff than yours and pre loaders always have 3 trucks, but pre load is terrible no doubt i hated it un tell they started to let me so the unload split
Ups up in Canada are amazing. Everyone is super nice. I never worked anywhere so good in my life. I hear lots of bad stories in the US, and that really sux :( I was hired full time driver off the street, but was referred by other vet drivers, and i have over 15 years experience.
Literally just got off my second day of Pre load working the cages I was told at orientation that we will be in training up to 5 days where they show us how to lift and everything about our position and it will only be 2 hours training days, literally the my first day of “TrAiNiNg” I was on the floor from time I clocked in and out no training at all and the 2hr bull shit was a lie “since u work so good we’ll keep you longer” wtf they even told me all I have to do my first week was just scan, Write the number, and load wouldn’t have to pull from cages yet, I come this morning 3:45 for my SECOND day of training and they tell me ok here’s your own 3 cars and unload the cages to and help unload eregs, and worked another full shift instead of 2hrs training these folks crazy af
UPS is light years ahead of FDX in 'training'. I was a brownie for 11 years and I've been at FDX for 19 years. If you want to see no training - come to FDX.
That part about copying the answers on them multiple test was also taught on most companies I work with too. They say don't take too long with the test, if you don't know it, just pick an answer cause at the the end of the test it'll tell you the right answer anyways and from there just copy it, retest and replace the wrong answer with the right answer. It happens with most companies I work with too. Of course I didn't do what they ask cause I already know most of the answer but then they wouldn't allow me to go back to work unless I answer all of them correctly.
They are only concerned with how things look, not with how they are. And if they are willing to compromise that much with a test, where else will they compromise?
@@CoffeeTalkLive then you should STRONGLY consider where you spend your money and buy things from, because like it or not nearly every large company (Amazon, Walmart, Starbucks, Target, etc) all do this in training. Make you watch a video, then you all go over the answers and they tell you what the correct answer is. I can't count how many companies I've done orientation for do this. Corporate America...and I say that as a whole...not UPS, not Walmart, not any SINGLE company, but pretty much every large, Nationwide if not globally recognized company that hires people in groups, not a mom and pop company hiring one maybe two people, but a large company...they ALL DO IT. I've worked at call centers where they hired groups of 40 people at a time. For accounts with Verizon, Sears, Sprint... They all do it. Im currently a truck driver and every large carrier I've worked for, does this. Again they hire large groups of people. The idea is that the bad ones will weed themselves out and the smart ones will figure it out and stay. When a company is hiring 40 or more people at a time in an orientation group they really don't have the time to cherry pick people out of a large group. That's exactly what has happened EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The group slowly starts to fall off after a couple months... A year later there's maybe two of you left from your hiring group. Retail stores, call centers, trucking companies. Every one does it. I hate to sound mean and don't mean to, but this is how Corporate America as a WHOLE operates so get used to it. We all got to work. Just be smarter than the guy next to you.
I had four to five trucks anytime I was loading and at the end of the day each truck was loaded To the point that the packages wanted to fall out of the truck but the load sheets normally said 300/500 packages
Nothing has changed same thing happened to me too literally i got assigned to 5 trucks my first day and it fucking sucked lmao I'm gonna push through it though
Clearly you refer to the old u.p.s. where management cared, where safety was important, and we were rewarded for hard work. Your comment, I respect, but I've worked for u.p.s. for 22 years and it's a cesspool. Every year gets worse. P.s. for
On my first day the expected me to know where the packages go on the cart when they didn't tell me where they go and break time it's wasn't 10 minutes more like 2 seconds
You should all find a labor law laweys. Stop paying dues to a union that doesn't do anything and have the lawyer Wright up a contract for you. Become your own union.
What training!? I work seasonal and they don't train you at all! They just give you a b.s. orientation that only covers safety and expect the drivers to teach you while your working during the busiest time of year which they dont😑😑
One good advice that you give is don't sign for anything that you didn't do. That's true with other work too. They just want cover their asses now a days. Why were you there for a year if you hated it so much?
Just finished my 3 day class training.. Not bad but u are right on the computer test.. all I did was keep on retaking it till I memorized the answers.. plus I had a written test and half the class had the study sheet to pass and the trainer could care less but all and all good.. I'm starting off at $14 an hour for part time.. I really enjoy working out and very athletic so hopefully I can be the few who enjoy this job! If I last I would actually consider being a driver.. right now there making over 80k-100k a year. Not including all there benefits
Lots of people seem to hate it, there are a few who like the job and make a lot of nasty comments but few of them deny the description of the working conditions.
So its a tough job. I was a professional window cleaner(high rise)a brick mason and ended up a correction officer. I got through, I had bills to pay and a son to raise and put through college. get another job if you don't like it or can't handle it. ups employs thousands, seems like they have no problem getting employees................... no offense to you of course.
This guy's a sissy. I have no college degree and UPS started me as a driver making $2,000 a week. Where can you go these days to make that kind of money?
I'm a driver too and spent 15 years in the hub. The money you make on the road is phenomenal. I've got tons of buddies still in the hub making like $500 a week or so and thinking that's "good money" because they're only getting like 25 hours a week. I can make $500 in a day and a half on the road. The difference in pay is unbelievable because I get $44.89 an hour on overtime. Which you will get PLENTY of! It's not for pansies but if you're tough enough you can make some serious money.
DuckTalesWooHoo1987 9 years? I got an interview tomorrow for tcd position. Warehouse was mention but I do not want to wait 9 years to be a full time driver!?
It's either you're made to be a UPSer or not. Only the strong survive at UPS and obviously you were a weakling. Lol. Get off your soapbox and suck it up,get over it and move on. #UnionAndUPSerForLife
Katie Crumley Weaver exactly, people expect so much from a job, when in reality the job is what is expecting so much from you. Most people learn from "on the job" training. It's common sense, that the computer based training is for those that lack any sense.
Yep, that's UPS for ya. I worked in the West Sac hub for 15 years. ALL management lie about safety! They say the care, but they don't because safety takes time. And that's time you could be working. UPS sucks! Use USPS, they are better and cheaper.
UPS is a great company to work for I did two years in Ontario in the hub and now I’ve worked the last year in my local delivery center just completed driver school and have about two months till I’ll start driving. Preload is hard work but it made me stronger and the early morning shifts allowed me to got to school during the day. The job is common sense my training was only about half an hour and went over the 8 keys and hazmats. Stop crying about it being a hard job. It’s real work that’s what adulthood is.
@Anthony MannettiPkg car 31yrs at Ups,, just retired, after about 8 sups, 4 or 5 ctr managers ,plus, must have seen at least 100 people come and go. Survival of the fittest, or maybe,,,the masochist.
@Anthony Mannetti what kinda UPS facilities are y'all working at? Because I had an excellent keystone trainer (mind you, I got hired as a pre-peak season hire) that was very attentive and answered all my questions and made sure we understood the number one concern was safety. I also got a really good part-time supervisor who trained me directly my first few weeks before we started getting slammed. Actually, my full-time super is great as well. Super kind, very reasonable. And when they saw me struggling they didn't give up on me, they pushed me through and were extremely patient with me. Idk, maybe we just do things differently in the northwest.
@Anthony Mannetti FedEx fines their drivers for doing pickups out of the time window even if the customer is ready. That is really helping you succeed, no? You could never get me to switch to fedex
