The TRUTH About Used, Cheap, German Off-Roaders! 

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Nev V great response I couldn’t agree with you anymore. Folks are negative towards these guys for going outside the box. Plus I think folks in the comments won’t be doing anything mechanically on their own.

Damn your swallowing the load and cupping their balls

YoDood215 😂😂😂

Dude, the Touareg is a money pit. They had serious issues when new. There is a reason they are cheap now. Look it up. There are other videos on RU-vid that tell the true story of that vehicle. And being truthful is not negative. You are just being sensitive.

Yes I also want to see it, great! Idea

You mean a Toyota fan boy? 😉

Biggest hack on RU-vid

Hades no, give me Chrysler reliability and day of the week, esp after 150k.

Well but he says that about anything that is not a 94 Celica :))))

Shh! Truth hurts tell them white lies about European and Kourean cars and how they are the best deal in the market. They have short term memory loss on how VW screwed them. When idiots keep on buying junks Europeans would love to provide them with more junks.

Yes, please continue your current life path. 🙌🏾

That is awesome. I am considering a 2014-17 GX, but a low dollar VW also is interesting. I think the GX is probably the smarter choice though, since you can toss any FJ or 4Runner parts at it for the most part. Love to hear your thoughts about those vehicles.

Malifestro glad you’re considering them! I I have an ‘07 GX470 and ‘11 Touareg. I chose the GX because it is very similar to the LX470 and 100 Series LC but couldn’t find one I was satisfied with in the time frame I needed to get a car in and the GX was the perfect alternative to those. What I like about the GX is that it has solid build quality, very comfortable, it has a 130k miles and despite that the exterior/interior has worn very well. I will have it a while and do not think that I’ll have to worry much about the engine/transmission but the only thing that could be an issue on it is the air suspension. I chose the Touareg because I have been a fan of that car and I think that you get a lot of value for your money with a VW. It drives great, is comfortable on long road trips, and the quality of materials is very good. The car is going to be more maintenance intensive t han the GX, which is a given with German cars. One thing I think is good to know about with the T1 or 2nd gen Touareg is that the battery is under the driver seat, and the battery has to be programmed to the car when you put a new one in. Kind of a pain but just know that. Brakes do wear quicker because it is a heavy vehicle, and if you get a Touareg that is prior to 2016, you do have to put premium in it. Hope that helps! Definitely feel free to ask any other questions.

Jonathan Harrott hey😂 I have 2 Touaregs and a gx470 toooo

That makes you an idiot with a short term memory loss ... You still keep on buying crooked European car makers' junks and they will continue screwing you because they will know that you are an idiot.

I love my daily driver '02 ML320, & my ML320 loves playing on the beach. It's a good, fun, reliable car 🇦🇺😎✌️

Great info! Thanks!

Yes I share the same it has being great, a great experience owning this capable vehicle

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You can't go wrong with the 100 series land cruisers.

I'd vote for it in no time! Guys, c'mon!

Don't worry, these vehicles have to be stored in the maintenance department of a dealership 6 months out of the year, lol. Chances are that they would miss the mud festival

Mud bogs are for flatlanders that have no real off roading to do.

A couple of $5k repairs and you still have a unreliable, expensive worn vehicle. Stick to simple.

Depends on if you can work on the vehicle yourself or not. If not then yes stay away. If you can ... Just make sure you have a 2nd vehicle :) fun though

Well, I have touareg for driving in woods. Scrapyards are full of these here in Europe and if you can work with your car yourself there is nothing very expensive.

The X164 pre-facelift GL500 is an awesome car, which is a beast, makes tons of power, 382hp & 600Nm+ of torque, the pre-facelift models (2007-2010) might have some 7G Tronic issues, for some users. AIRMATIC suspension, after some 40,000-80,000 miles it might be bagged out, otherwise great SUV. A facelift X164 (2010-2013) might have better reliability due to improved 7G TRONIC, I'm not sure. I'd choose MERCEDES-BENZ over any rivals any day.

@@alimirza7907 Thank you for your advice .I have looked at The jeep grand Cherokee and commander also the Land rover discovery 3 . Personally I find the build quality a little better on the Mercedes . But I will say that the Jeep grand Cherokee is super reliable There V8 engines just keep on going but avoid the 2.7CRD .Thanks again and I hope you have a wonderful day 😁

No, mine doesn't do that. Its very smooth on normal roads, and quiet. You must have had something wrong with the tracking.

@@libran58 Tracking and tyre wear and steering were all fine. The suspension geometry just caused year 2000 vehicles to accentuate any dips in the road at right angles to the direction of travel. Otherwise it was fine, although a very cheaply built vehicle, from the time that Mercedes went way overboard on cost-cutting.

Exactly my thought. Or if u wanna go even bigger there is Zetros. Also MAN has some crazy beasts like Kat 1 or TGS. 😁

M35 2½-ton cargo truck

In my experience with owning German & Japanese cars, there is a comparable difference. In my case 2010 Touareg 2 and 2002 LX470. Parts and labour the Touareg was typically 20% more expensive to repair. AND the Touareg had more things fail on it than the LX despite the LX being and older car and doing much much more offroad driving. Overall ownership cost (not including fuel) the Japanese car will win out, BUT the german cars are so much more comfortable on street.

So you can afford a Porsche Cayenne but you can't afford a reliable Toyota 4Runner to explores the Rockies. are you idiots coming out of factory to say such idiotic things to promote European brands?

@@squidproquo2241 5500 for my cayenne. A beat up POS 4 runner costs twice that.

@@joeycooper93 _ Well, the market knows what true quality is. Still, you will get what you pay for.

@@squidproquo2241 since I can actually work on my vehicles instead of paying someone to fix it I can buy the cheaper more damaged vehicles and make em work way better. By the way, your beloved Toyotas are more expensive to buy, more expensive parts, more of a pain to work on, and overall a pain in the ass.

@@joeycooper93 "since I can actually work on my vehicles instead of paying someone to fix it I can buy the cheaper more damaged vehicles and make em work way better. " Since you do that you think that you are the only one in the world who can do that as it seems. "By the way, your beloved Toyotas are more expensive to buy," No they are not. Your distorted perception needs to be corrected. They lose less value than the piece of crap European brands, simply because they are higher quality products. If you don;t believe me go compare the brand new prices of a Toyota 4Runner and a Porsche any model you like LOL! "more expensive parts" Again you lie. It is a well known fact the most expensive vehicle to maintain are European brands. Even if we assume that individual parts are more expensive, and absolutely they are not, due to highest level of quality and engineering you don;t need to replace a part on a Toyota or Honda as often as you need to on a European junk. "more of a pain to work on" LOL! You keep lying. I can work on a any Toyota with generic tools that i bought from any hardware store. However, to work on a European brand I need brand specific tools. LOL! Not only that due to not enough room to work in the engine bay, a European brand is like trying to squeeze your hands into two size smaller gloves. "and overall a pain in the ass." Well, yes, if you are the ass and your ego is bruised with the high quality Japanese products, then they will be a pain in your conscience. LOL! What a deluded bigoted Fidiot.

It should be brown, because it is a turd.

yes!

I have an 01 ML320 and put over 20k milles, getting the truck in too intermidiate off road situation on mud, snow and steep hills, with no mechanucal issues, great traction, two speeds low range with the break traction controll that can alocate power to any wheel that needs it, I love it, so far reliable ML320. If you are interested in getting one go with a 2001 to 2004 w163 gen, this have being revised and upgraded what was wrong on the 1997-2000 models. This trucks are easy to fix, they have a tone of space to work with, but you need to buy the correct tools, alao no problem finding parts.

Tommy needs an intervention, lol

Is this a question?

No just a comment.

Yes please, but make mine a Brabus.

Totally different animal. Our touareg is better off-road than any new subaru from the factory

David M A suburu is a car, while Toureg is a SUV.. Suburu has transmission that can’t handle a hill climb, ground clearance sucks on them too

Funny thing....people said the same thing about Baja Bob and yet they lined up to buy the old VW

Any vehicle might not get you back. That's why you follow the advice and prepare, and learn some mechanics, and tell people where you are going.

Because you WILL need all of the tools if you buy any of these vehicles

So, you bought new and sold it with 20k miles?

@@nunya9555 HA! I own a Touareg and agree with that statement LOL, But seriously I still own my Touareg, almost touching 100K miles, and have spent 0$ for repairs (10y/100K warranty).

@@nunya9555 My touareg is at 440 000km. Front diff needs bearing rebuild and i had to replace suspension compressor. Other than that the fancy AFS light systems RH controller need new SMD transistor. Considering km's that not that bad. Diff is going to be pain in the arse, but as DIY it's costing only few hundred to repair.

I had a v6 petrol with no air suspension. The thing was awesome for big sand dune driving, even with 255/55r18 tyres. But i did find that things started to fail after 10 years and repairs were costly.

@@zakibbini1 - You mean thing started to fall apart after 3 years or 60,000 kms when the warranty is over.

He is a child, give him a break, lol. They even had kids music in the intro.

They're used. They spent around $27k for both the Porsche and the Mercedes. That's cheap compared to a new Jeep, 4Runner, or any pickup truck.

Touareg, First-gen ML and GL (now known as GLE and GLS, Cayenne (trim GTS and above) , audi Q7/8 can do some medium level off-road, while the X5/6/7 can get stuck at some steep hills or obstacles even with off-road pack and rear locker, but at least compared to last gen BMW SUVs, they are better, while Maserati Levante cannot go off-road even its chassis structure is from Jeep WK2 GCs

If it doesn't have a body on frame it is not an off-roader. For rallying, the first gen are very good, as is the tfl ML, but the new ones are just taller 5 series wagons... Also, no low range, propper transfer case, IRS and IFS, soo no articulation at all, making the awd useless, because you will always have one of your front wheels on the air. There is only one german off-roader, the G wagon, up until the 2018 version, the new ones are not as good.

Mega I mean I’m not a true off-roader but what the hell does body on frame improve that another kind can’t ? X5 and X7 have no issues off-roading. At least videos and forums BMWs new X5/X7 with the off-road package they are good off-road SUVs. 10+ inch ground clearance, diff lock, hill descent which I’ve heard was the best hill descent in the car industry from tons of consumers. Also how could one of the best AWD system get stuck? Stop watching bias videos of Audi fan boys putting Xdrive to shame because there’s a real test that shows BMW is better than Quattro and is indeed faster reaction on Xdrive than Audi. Audi shines on the torque they usually have more torque than BMW and that’s why they are good at getting out of stuck situations. Xdrive is just as good as Quattro. Also just because Quattro seems to do better doesn’t make it a better AWD system. BMW definitely makes a better AWD system than any American car brand, any British, Italian and most Japanese’s. Only brand that can stand up against bmw is suburu or Quattro. So stop bringing bmw down for riding the wave of the wrong people like Audi fans which probably the reason why most idiots bring bmw down for the off-roading part. I have a e53 which never been stuck in snow and I live in northern U.S where it dumps snow all the time. I’ve had the car since 2007 so that means something

Well their off roading ability is limited with their on road reliability and it sucks LOL!

Langolier My X5 can’t relate to your claim

LOL! Original SUV revolution started with Mercedes M class? Were you born in the 90's LOL!

@@squidproquo2241 , I know its not true for the US market...but for the international market that scene from the movie jurassic park kick started the SUV craze around the world..

@@abymathew295 _ Nope, Mouth watering American market started the craze hence the movies that were made as commercials

Aby Mathew I very highly doubt this, and I say this as someone who became interested in such vehicles cause of that movie. Ever seen the movie Hatari?

nh_292 fast, aus der Schweiz 😉😂

Ja genau, fast, Niederlande hier 😜

Ja, hier!

I'd say the Volvo Laplander 😅

@@VinDieselS70 Sugga! 😍

That's it. A "Sugga", couldn't remember the name other than I knew Red Bull use one for promotion purposes. 😎

It sounds like there’s a $150K G Wagon in your future that will never see dirt. If we could only all be so rich!

@@TFLcar No, Just a reliable Toyota. Everyone knows( especially you guys) that rich people lease new German cars and poor people buy used German cars.

I don’t know buddy, they can be reliable and relatively cheap to maintain if you do the work yourself. First gen ML’s are great examples. Dead simple, and very easy to fix. Built for americans by americans.

But one try one

Spread the word brother! They can be a money pit from hell. I drove the twin turbo V10 diesel Touareg once, and it blew my mind! 125mph by the end of the highway ramp! They are great when they work. But, NOT CHEAP at all once maintenance is figured in. Many known issues with that vehicle, and dedication and wisdom is required. Dedication to repair the issues, and wisdom to know when to walk away.