The Truth Behind LeBron's Decision To Leave Cleveland In 2010 

it's rooted on hating the employee instead of criticizing management

Fr cause I think the opposite. Our favorite teams are organizations. The players don’t own the team. It’s up the Organization to keep the best they got and built around it. Some people don’t get that

Yup unlike the thunder with KD smh that dude had everybody he could need and then some and still left #coward

@@DJThrillerKN fr

@@jimbobfisher8904 idk about that one. The thunder went 6 years starting shooting guards who couldn't shoot and centers who couldn't score. It was really on him and russ. That cheap organization dropped the ball

Thanks for the info.

JJ hickson walked so THT can run

Hey... a healthy Amar'e Stoudemire with Prime LeBron in Cleveland would have been actually real scary lol. He was willing them to a 60 win by himself and he had them competing against eventual ECF winners like 09 Magic and 10 Celtics...

Why were the suns trying to trade amare? Were they in a rebuild mode

@@tj5180 well like LeBron he was a free agent that next year, and iirc either they didn't think he was going to resign or it was something with his injury to his eye that phoenix didn't trust him long term

Memphis, Utah, and Knicks are struggling to get superstars in modern age it really sucks for small market teams. Yes I put Knicks there to piss them off. Mfs couldn’t get KD and Kyrie

My denver too 💔

This is what killed KG and my Wolves for years and years

They had Lebron lmao it’s just that nobody wanted to come there because it’s a bad org. If a small market is a good franchise then players go

Those same small market teams may also pay larger than normal contracts for guys who are good but not superstar level or make massive trades that other teams wouldn't make, and that's if they can build a strong core through the draft. If they do get superstars they have to handicap themselves financially just to keep them.

And beat the best team ever. So who really the best team.

And is the best player ever

​@@hotpot328MJ > LeBron

Dude has a way too big ego so the franchise lost 121 million in value overnight. Stupidity at its finest.

Facts. All he had to do was bring in some quality players like Miami heat did for him which he got two championships out of it. Look what happened the second time he was in Cleveland with help, got great players beside him to win

true leaders can lead with anyone behind them. hes not a true leader hes a team jumper and leave a mess behind him

@@robbiecomo5953y’all just be sayin stuff like this as if nba players are war generals lol, you need good coaching and personnel to win an nba championship not just one superstar come on now lol

@@robbiecomo5953 u sound dum jordan for before Krause drafted hired the greatest coach of all time drafted scottie the zen master developed scottie and sign on tons of other help like the best euro player in the world at the time top 5 3p shooter eventually a couple pistons who jordan hated and cry about to the media and daddy stern for years greatest rebounder of all time grant and more he didn’t lead them to anything he was getting swept in the first rd and making the playoffs with below .500 teams some times far below .500 Kobe post shaq never beat the suns in a regular season series or playoff series again until he got gasol and others they missed the playoffs years straight in his prime he blew a 3-1 lead to the suns when he did finally make the playoffs again after shaq and quit in a game 7 so much for a leader stop with the bullshit u never seen a player take a shit roster like Lebron and give the a regular season record and playoff runs of a contender when they absolutely had no business winning 60 games or even 55+ making ecf or making the finals at some point u gotta wake up and smell the folgers

Agreed. I still remember those days. Even as a Bulls fan who thought it was funny when he left the Cavs, I was on their side because how he went about it.

Also funnily enough, Donovan Mitchell was in that special in person.

@@jetfan925Facts 😂

LeBron himself came out years later and admitted he wish he didn't do it .

@@jetfan925 Wait? Where was he in that crowd?

Cavs fans should be grateful about bron taking them to their 1st championship and making the franchise revelant when before the cavs were a horrible franchise and couldn’t get past the bulls and going through bad luck especially in the draft

Check out the smirking idiot on the bottom left. Pathetic 7:57

This happens to a lot of stars, not only Lebron. And they he handle it was very poor.

Shitty?

@@tj5180now Cavs fans will tell you they Love Kyrie and LeBron, even tho Kyrie left he was the 2nd most important piece to that championship and a lot of their finals runs

those teams were like giannis's bucks teams

@@mitchellmartinsky2299 you got a point there

​​​@@mitchellmartinsky2299he difference being is that Milwaukee is actually competent and they're slowly building while Cleveland is just stupid.

The only people who talk crap about Lebron leaving are idiots who don’t know basketball.

@@jrsmith1998 exactly

That's right. That would have made it similar to KD's move which in my opinion looked worse

While it wasn’t as bad as Durant’s move, he still created a superteam lmao

@@X02Overdose yeah but winning forming your own team is much better then joining an already established great team. It’s like if Durant had won with Kyrie and Harden in Brooklyn. Yes it’s a super team but it would look much better then winning in golden state

@X02Overdose no he didn't. Super teams have existed since 80s. I.e. bird/McHale/parish, maic/kaj/worthy , etc...

@@X02Overdose and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with creating a super team nobody gets mad when gms and owners do it nobody said Shit about the bulls dominating the 90s with all they signings even recruiting pistons hof and John sally when jordan hated the pistons and cried to stern and the media about them for years nobody said anything about the stacced lakers and Celtics of the 80’s or bills stacced Celtics when he won 11, 8 straight then another 3 peat nobody said anything about shaq and Kobe lakers when they played my pistons with no all time top 75 players while they had 4 along with Rick fox derrick fisher and Horace grant (side not were the only team ever to accomplish winning a chip with no top 75 and we did it against 4) hell even recent times a lot of people give a pass and even praise to Stephen curry and golden state for recruiting KD as if they weren’t conference rivals and talking shit bac in forth in press conferences while playing against each other as if they both aren’t too 20-15 all time greatest players and they teamed up combining for 3 mvps to stacc the decc with 4 All nba team selections 4 perineal allstars a dpoy another finals mvp in iggy who also is a 6th man of the year level player former allstar another top 10 arguably top 5 shooter of all time klay who was also the best 2 way guard in basketball at that point Super teams been a thing and nobody gave a shit when it was jordan turn Kobe turn shaq turn steph KD magic kareem bill ect but when it was Bron turn the whole world had a problem and the real problem is not that he had teammates he could win with the real problem was him actually winning him actually living up to the hype and winning championships makes other guys feel threatened that players they know aren’t better than Lebron but they are a fan of legacy can be questioned or threatened by lebrons legacy if he started winning multiple chips as he’s had that’s why no matter what so many people gonna cling to jordan cuz he’s the only thing y’all got left to say see lebrons a failure he ain’t better than jordan cuz he surpassed everyone else and all the expectations a long time ago

Exactly

LeBron left the #1 team and KD joined the #1 team and both reasons are for the same exact cause and that's to win a championship. If u ask me KD did it better and y'all hate how it interfered with LeBrons legacy 🤷🏿‍♂️ So I disagree it being worse KD just did it better 🤷🏿‍♂️ Not to mention if KD didn't get hurt the Warriors would have 3peated. Meanwhile Bron barely got two out of the Miami move. KD won his in convincing fashion and where LeBrons left me convinced me they shouldn't have won against SA🤷🏿‍♂️😂

Does he still have the job as a owner or he retired

@@tj5180 he’s still the owner of the Cavs organization

He was Right. LeBronze has proven that over his career. He always Quits when things get Tough. LeBronze a Coward and a Quitter

Cleveland was stacked when Shaq came..bron kept choking in PLAYOFFS

Your smoking hard

Facts

i agree

Or PG Wit Indiana

@@tredaytheplaymaker1579 PG was traded

it’s easy…..you can’t win with Russell Westbrick

We understand why he left. It’s the team he chose to play for that he gets hate for.

Or why Shaq signed with the Lakers over Magic

LeBron as GM doesn't work the best either though....

those guys aren't scrubs

@@mitchellmartinsky2299 they were by the time they got to Cleveland. It wasn't 2000 Shaq or 2003 Ben Wallace

@@richborn6700 they could still play

​@@mitchellmartinsky2299 not scrubs they are washed When Cleveland aquired them

@@pudge9845 Williams and jamison averaged 16 points a game for them in 2010. Shaq averaged 12 points a game and sebastian telfair averaged 10 points a game.

It only worked out because lebron got em a chip and 4 title runs made them somehwT relevant as a competitive team stupid cleavlanders aren’t shit if he didn5 win that chip they’d still hate him to this day

Lebron is wrong for leaving Cleveland he a hoe for that

Exactly! I can't fully blame Lebron James for wanting to leave though out the years he was literally carrying no only a team but the entire city to relevant's and once he left for a better team that the gravy train is gone now it okay to trash talk the player that made the team popular in the first place.

One of my fav players of the 90s!

He can do what he wants, he didn’t need to say anything. The cavs wouldn’t do shit about surrounding him with talent but he’s supposed to bend over backwards for them? 😂

There's no rule saying he can't do what he did. Hey, if teams can just trade players without any heads up or shipping them to toronto (kawhi) even if that wasn't their preferred destination, then players have the right to do this. The only issue with that, and something I agree with you with, is that he made it a spectacle, which shouldn't be

Yeah also a lot of ppl forget LeBron himself admitted the decision was a bit much

it angered some people (right or wrong, its their feelings anyway)

Can’t even compare the two, Josh Allen is great don’t get me wrong but he’s no lebron of the nfl…

@@BoatsNhoes824 ?? How so he’s prolly the most athletically gifted QB of all time right now strong arm can run the ball and his ability to stiff arm defenders and avoid being sacked..dudes basically a TE playing QB..his only weakness is decision making thus far..u youngins act like lebron didn’t take 7+ years to win his first title and has won championships without HOF and all star talent around him.. athletically for their sports/positions they are very similar but I mean it’s comparing two different sports so opinions will vary..and before u say mahomes he is definitely athletic arm/rush wise and an elite decision/play maker but I’ve never seen him stiff arm DTs jump over LBs or bulldoze CBs

It’s just an old school rivalry type thing with the state of Ohio, it’s even like that in the Jails in Ohio , Akron Cincinnati Columbus against Cleveland 💯

HAHAHAHAHA Shhhhh

Nah I think he’ll stay loyal to Dallas, Dallas has built a championship roster before, just took some time.

@@mattmmixes they never did except for 2011. Cuban and the front office did lots of horrible moves in the Nash and dirk era also today with Brunson signing with the knicks. They almost wasted dirk career

@@tj5180 2011 Mavs are one of the greatest defensive teams of all time they shut down a top 3 player in his prime, I agree tho so many poor moves like letting Tyson Chandler walk, but even one ring would put Luka in the top ten convo at the end of his career with the statistical accomplishments he’s had.

As a Spurs, I agree with you. I was purple with rage after 2013, and cried tears of joy in 2014.

And the third best defenseive team in 08-09 season while being second in 3pt shooting percentage

check the playoff stats

Lebron glazer

@@HoopEnthusiasts Giannis better than lebron

Keep smoking bro 🚬

Good point. Notice how bad the Warriors were for years, allowing them the draft capital needed to get Curry, Thompson, and Barnes (who eventually became the odd man out when they signed Durant). Green was a second round pick, so I wouldn’t necessarily throw him in this conversation. I remember an early episode of The Last Dance covering Jordan’s second season when he broke his foot and how the Bulls were basically trying to lose so they could get a high draft pick and a sidekick for MJ. However, he came back and was having none of it, so he willed them to that last playoff spot. That basically soured his relationship with the Bulls front office for the rest of his career. It’s truly remarkable how that team dominated the way it did in the 90s despite all the drama and turmoil within the organization.

@@johngittings281 Yes the warriors are a good example. Also the spurs when they drafted Duncan. They had a complete team just 1 star player short of making an impact. And yes, the bulls relationship with jordan was something else 😂 such a relationship between player and office would never exist today. They also fired the coach jordan liked 😂 cant make this up. But the front office of the bulls was quite good, they even landed pippen eventhough they had no business in getting such a high draft pick. Well done by the Bulls.

@@ZockaRocka you know sometimes the best working relationships are the ones in which the parties involved don’t have much of personal relationships. Brady and Belichick didn’t necessarily get along. Jordan and Pippen same thing. We all know how Kobe and Shaq were and look what they did. This is not just in sports either. When I worked in the car business, there were a couple guys in the department I worked in who barely had a personal relationship with each other, but they fed off each other perfectly and made the department run like a well oiled machine.

@@johngittings281 Well, ive never thought about that. But you may be right :) i guess both relationship types can work if both parties know what they want and how to get it.