+Ray Blanks nah, there are clean ways to become rich , but the dirt route is wat people think is the only way to become rich, so they follow that path and greed plays part because these people won't stop for a million, they will always want more and more even if they have a billion they will still reach for the stars. As dirty as these people will do to get rich, they will do dirtier to maintain their riches because if you fuck with their shitt all hell will follow you.
Beans Killed Every Song He Was Featured On During The Dynasty Album. Every Verse Was A Studio Murder. The Streets Knew It Too. Which Birthed The Line From Nas In Either "No Mustache Having With Whiskers Like A Rat Compared To Beans You Wack"....
Air Pegasus lol i can't even front..jay my favorite rapper but every song on that dynasty album beans ATE him...streets is talking and where have you been should of been just beans song.
Jason Toussaint Fact you heard the pain grittyness and hunger and passion in his voice. Its like that was a Beans album featuring Jay. He simply got out rhymed. This cant be life was a almost a tie. Plus that album was supposed to be a group album this the title "The Dynasty Roc La Familia" Notice its mot alot of solo jay records on there. Only about two. He kept the whole album for himself. Hov a snake a for real
Air Pegasus he kept the album for himself so it can increased the sales(smart marketing)..but even though beans came strong on the dynasty album jay still had the best verse on any song on that album..the dynasty intro hov spit was something serious
Jason Toussaint Understood That The Namesake "Jay-Z " Will Sell The Album More Than A Collaborative Effort Of The Group "Roc La Familia" But Was That Move More Of Ego Or Marketing. Remember Around This Time The Roc Was Gearing Up For A Group Album. They Released The Single 4 Da Fam Feat. Hov Bleek Beans & Amil.. Which Also Is Why They Put You Me Him Her On That Same Album. But Jay Not Wanting To Be Outshined By His Peers In 2000 (DMX also Red & Meth With That Blackout Album, Ja Was On The Rise, 50 Had A Buzz, The Lox Had The Street & Cash Money Was Killing) Decided He Needed The Notoriety To Remain Fresh & Relevant . Theres A Few Interviews Where Former Roc Artists Spoke On That Album Meaning To Be A Group Album
Yeah but he said himself that jay told him to calm down because they heading to the next level multiple times and beans kept getting cases and then jay z had to fall back
@Just Budd he didn't "have" to fall back. He chose to. Plenty of rappers have gotten locked up, and the company held them down. Tupac, Snoop, Slick Rick, just to name a few. Jay was too busy worrying about how he looked to white folks. Thus, he didn't keep it real. I think they both were wrong
Don't know if you remember his childhood friend DeHaven aka Headache you need to check that out on RU-vid watch every clip and it will explain he's the one who started Roca fella Records along with Dame he just a Documentary about Marcy made
Spot on cause Ceno said Jay never went 2 a court date, but Jay & Beyoncé did show up once 2 Philly & that’s definitely the time & my our definitely right about Jay saying no 2 the judge
I’m frm NP myslf, yes MAC jus thought farr too mch of himslf being that bully rap dude. He was the streets.. U can take a cat out the jungle but this cat kept coming back couldn’t leave a certain lifestyle/image alone
I feel that this video really really explained things very well and I also like the fact that you were fair and you were not Pro Beanie Sigel or pro Jay Z you just stated the facts. my personal opinion I really don't get how you can turn your back on someone who was an enforcer for you and who gave you all of your street credibility and who is willing to stand in the front line for you at all times both physically and lyrically, that to me is a ride or die soldier and yes Beanie Sigel is a grown man but la familia is la familia and if somebody was going to take a bullet for you then you should do all in your power to make sure that they are going to be ok. Jay Z to me is a dirtbag with no honor. I also don't understand how someone like Beanie Sigel with such unbelievable lyrical capabilities was suppressed he is definitely one of the top 5 greatest rappers who ever lived.
+MaxwellD13 Don't matter where the beef originated from... beef is beef. If somebody's beefin with you, then you best watch your back cause you're beefin
He signed beans at a time when you needed thugs around you. Jay signed him partially for security. Then right around the time beanie left was a time when you No longer needed real street dudes in your camp
You took the words from my fingertips. A lot of these street labels do that. They surround themselves with thugs to do the shit they can't do themselves or won't do then when the money come in they hire quality security and use them against the thugs.
Yo whats interesting, speaking of sauve house- jay-z formed state prop because Gillie and the major figgas turned down a deal with Rocafella (turned it down because sauve house had just signed gillie for like 125k and gillie felt like jay wasn't offering enough bread- he only offered like 100-150k for the whole group of 7 dudes.) So without sauve house signing gillie there would be no state prop. It probably woulda been beanie& the major figgas. Then Tony Draper went through it with universal over distribution.. and thats when gillie da kid went to cash money records and when jay z had formed his own philly supergroup- state property.
Well, ill say this. karceno is on point with the conflict and how Dame stole his shoe deal. Im starting to believe that this man is on point with his words. Good shit KARCENO.
And looking at things now, Jay Z went all hard and supported Meek to get out of jail and he's not even on his label smh..I'd REALLY feel a type of way if I was Beans
Jay and Beans squashed their beef over the weekend at his B-Sides concerts. He also brought out SP but too bad it wasn't genuine. He's only using them to get more subscribers for his music streaming service Tidal which has been getting bad press since it relaunched
Jay z should have showed Beans the ropes to the game and should have let him go to 50 if he would have went to 50 he would have no worries money wise I mean 8 hundred thousand dollars is a lot to start it's easy to miss mange that being you never had that much but invest it and he would have been straight but the dude was done wrong
I have a feeling if Tupac would have survived and left Death Row Records and had his own lable, Tupac would have signed Beanie Sigel. A Tupac, Kurupt, Jadakiss,& Beanie Sigel track would have been on point.
My Momma loves me- Jay-Z Beans I ain't tying to change you - just give you some game to make the transition, from the streets to the fame. That was the problem with Beans.
Think about it, Dame and Kanye are doing business together. Beans and Jay are cool again.. I was wondering if they were all playing us from day one. Remember Death of a dynasty? I know the chances of that may be slim but you never know.. But it is just hip hop lol.. Great video, Karceno..
Please do truth behind 2pac vs Kill Kill (out of Watts, California). It's a lesser known beef, I think it started cuz Kill Kill had a song called Mama Dear, then Pac had a song called Dear Mama. Can you shine any light on that?
Hold up... there was a part where Jay Z was asked by the judge if he would look out for Beens if the judge release him and Jay Z said.... no. You missed that. That was the icing on the cake.
thezquad That's what "they" say.....but has anyone ever produced court records to such effect? Would that not have made regular news if it had happened? This shit comes out years after when Beans is tryna work up a buzz. Karceno did well to leave that story out.
thezquad That wasnt what the judge said, the judge asked Jay z would he be responsible for beans and Jay said no because Jay knew beans was wild and irresponsible and wouldn't chill and stay low and Jay was right. Beans was getting into trouble and getting into shootouts in the streets. Jay was corporate and was a business man and if you have somebody you call a friend and your friend got that street mentality while you trying to do big things and do these million dollars business deals, you have to remove your self from it. You can call it what you want but Jay did the right thing...
the game is way different. back in the day, gangster rappers would step up to you not given a shit..nowadays these popcorn rappers have to look up resume before they even open up there mouth to say something Reckless.. that's the difference between now and then
Strategic move..we talking bout business men looking at numbers..metrics..philly was buying along with other sectors in the east but the south money metrics was way different..independent alone was making millionaires in the south. Must I say more.. self-explanatory
Good video! This was a classic example of business over friendship and not letting your heart control your mind. Beans is a shooter, a loyal dude but sometimes guys like him can't understand that business moves have to be made. It's like if 2 parents divorce and go separate ways the kid can only go with one of them. Jay was wrong with not supporting him in court etc but Beans should have been improving his business acumen through the years of being with the Roc. Like Jay said on BP3, He's not Santa you can't sit on his lap. One of many sublime shots he took at cats throughout that album! At least they seem to be on the same page again!
Excellent analysis. One thing you could have mentioned also was Jay Z's song "What they Talkin Bout?" which directly addresses some people and I felt, indirectly addressed Beans. At the end of the day, I think Beans received some bad advice on the business side, and if he can mend the fences with Jay, he'll be able to resurrect some aspects of his career before it's officially done.
Beans made a lotta mistakes but he did a lot for the Roc. They dogged him at the end of the day. I always wonder how his career would’ve went if he went with G-unit
This was spot on, good commentary about the former beef. They should make a movie about this and let Beanie Sigel tell his side of the story to the fullest so new artist coming into the business will see just how corrupt the business is so that they will be prepared for the worst. Jay Z and Dame are both fuq boys, Dame got his Karma back when he loss everything, but Jay Z hasn't gotten his day yet so when his day comes his Karma is going to be a SUPER HELLA BITCH! His Karma is building up and it's going to smite him down to his knees when the elite come for his head. Beanie Sigel will get the last laugh. Mark my words.
Twelve30Radical lol as much time as he spent making this id hope its true but i think only a portion of it is true. unless he was signed to the roc too he dont know exactly what happend
That's why as a people we can't get anyplace we use each other 2 get ahead & don't look out 4 there fellow man behind all of us can make $ 2gether that's that Caucasian mentality that's hw they do bizzness with each other & all they doing is keeping up the fuckry
Basically Pastor Troy knew that P had shit on lock. When he came out he said fuck P I'm Pastor Troy. Getting his name out there and did the fake No Limit studio call. Troy and C Murder bumped heads over it but that's about it. Matter of fact Troy explained it on an interview with Sway.
So @karaceno around 31:40 when u say jay was done with b, is it cuz he knew he couldn't make money off him because of the fact he knew his lil homies was "writing for him"?
I swear you can do every voice. The way you talk so calm and slow like you doing something else while you talking, makes me feel like you was sitting in every situation. It's how I tell my experiences.
Damn beans with g unit would have been nice I could see that working reminds me of the ride out video with millz & BG nice Lil banga in the early 2000s that should have gotten more spins
This Is Why I Love The Way 50 Cent Does Business Over Jay-Z’s Way They’re Both Successful and Transcended “Rapper” Career Stereotypes But 50 Runs His Business Very Personally, He Has Never Thrown Anyone Under The Bus That Are Loyal To Him Regardless If They Make Him A Lot Of Money Jay-Z Is Very Indifferent With His Business. Simply Put, If It Doesn’t Make Money It Doesn’t Make Sense. As Soon As You Become A Liability To Jay It’s Over For Y’all Business Regardless If He Likes You Or Not I Understand Why Jay Moves That Was But I Prefer 50’s Method.
even tho he pulled beans in & gave him a chance he still should have had enough respect for beans and told him yo I'm going solo and I dont need a shadow cuz thats pretty much how it went
So Jay being a slug as usual okay. As usual like the imitations of the artists. He has not turned on Kanye yet nor Beyonce really. But only time will tell if either of those will happen whether separate or connected.
