Absolutely, in my case it was working outdoors (landscaping/gardening) with likeminded, positive and funny people. 4 years and i have become more stronger and calmer.
@@name5876 I married a supportive wife, raised our son to be a good little kid, chose an office with laid-back colleagues to work with (small team), and have no friends or family members who I ever speak to except for one who doesn't live in the country, and for me, that works out pretty well.
@Skye M I found this positive environment in intellectual spaces. Particularly in "fireside gatherings" with members of the Baha'í Faith. I think organized spaces that facilitate open and free discussions on deep topics (regardless of whether they are spiritual or not) is a good place to start and maybe even stay. I have built the strongest and most meaningful friendships of my entire life in spaces like this. Be aware that broken people exist everywhere. It's resilliant/ self- aware people that you must be able to identify and get close to in these, and in every space.
Even regular old parents do this. They think they are helping us by teaching us to conform to society's expectations (and also selfishly doing this to avoid embarrassment.) They think they need to train us and guide us to do what they have been taught to do, often with good intentions. All the while, what they are really communicating is that we are unacceptable as we are and must do what insist in order to get approval. We must choose between being authentic or being accepted, and we all choose the latter because we must when we are still so dependent on adults for survival.
The more difficult truth is they often arent narcissists. the more difficult truth is they FULLY believe they are doing the right thing, that they're doing whats best for the child. Thats the hard part to come to terms with. This is my life. I have no scape goat. No villain. No one to blame directly. Because they are ignorant of wrongdoing
@@lockandloadlikehell I'm so lucky that my late father tried his best to make up for my mother's narcissism, even when he himself came from a terribly traumatic childhood. Everything good in my early years is because of him.
My parents were divorced when I was five, a horrible, messy divorce, full of violence and hatred. We were left with our father, a convincing and charming narcissist He married a monster that severely abused me and my siblings. I finally ran away at 14 and never went back. I have always been very hard on myself and ashamed of my inability to socialize and be normal. I am 72 and never married. It is only recently that I realized that those things were impossible for me because there was no one there to teach me the rules and I had to raise myself with no skills to do so. I avoid people and live as a hermit because I feel other people are just there to hurt me. At least now, I can like myself and can be my own best friend. I wish videos like this were available when I was younger.
@@filippians413 I don’t feel alone but with people like you responding, it makes me think there are good people after all. Thank you and you have a good life. We all can heal.
My father was beaten regularly almost to death at times by his father. He's never received therapy or anything so he continued the cycle with my brothers and I. Growing up I swore I'd never be like him, but we naturally always carry traits of our environment. I noticed I was displaying these traits and I had to change. It took losing everything. My wife, kids, friends... changing my mindset from violence and anger to compassion and patience was the hardest thing I've ever done. I still slip up here and there, but I'm a different person. I look at my kids and think about how I was once their age and how innocent I once was. I'm trying to protect their childhood at all costs. They will never grow up like I did. I won't allow it.
Oh my. My deepest condolences for what happened to you and your family. You are very strong to have changed things for yourself and those around you. I strongly believe we can change with courage, therapy, awakening, and much more. I’m doing all I can to get rid of past trauma for the benefit of my grandchildren. Children so deserve it, and you so deserve a good life. Kudos to you. ❤️🩹
@@saysHotdogs You're in the wrong place to judge buddy. This man did better than most could've and aknowledged his mistakes. I think now he knows well enough how his kids must've felt and that better than any of us. Props to you Mayor, glad you changed for the best!
@@saysHotdogs Don’t do that. This person is in the process and learning and being vulnerable here and you are resorting to your own trauma and shaming him. Don’t do that.
to shut down anothers nature is one of the worst things we can do to another and yet families do that to their kids all day, every day, It must change, thank you Daniel for being the change the world needs
My dad‘s fourth wife did this. He was a narcissist but I believe she is a sociopath. The destruction of our family was finalized when he married her. It’s a wonder any of us survived. They wear the mask of sanity and have hordes of flying monkeys around them so no one knows the truth. Evil walks this earth disguised as family and make themselves appear better they must destroy anything that is of the light…. because the light highlights, their dank, nasty darkness, vile entities that they are. Karma comes for these people. My older sister, wow finally and sadly the choices that she made to bully and the evil behavior are now coming back to haunt her through divorce, etc. treat people kindly because God will not be mocked and it’s just that simple. Only decades later do we have a name for what happened to us and a name for these people. ABUSERS😔
I have never heard such a accurate description of trauma. You make a solid point, some parents, schools really like a shut down child. I was a deeply traumatized kid, and I was praised for being a shallow, obedient zombie, who never questioned anyone or anything until later on in life.
@@Kinobambino this song is actually about this guy's strained relationship with his parents. So, this verse probably refers to the toxic, unsupportive environment, he grew up in.
I am in my 50's and I am more childish (child like) than I ever was as a child. It's very weird, but I never got to be a child. I was neglected, emotionally and verbally abused. I thought everything was my fault. I will never escape the trauma and I continue to grieve but I try to enjoy my inner child whenever I can... she's pretty cool 😎
At 38 I met a woman who had written a book about how her childhood memories were healed through theophostic prayer. I went to her and asked her to pray me through my memories of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of my father. She met with me over a period of weeks and we went into one memory at a time...when the particular chosen memory of the day was focused upon in my mind, we went to prayer and asked Christ to come into the scene and "change it" (actually in this type of prayer we're praying for a vision of "truth" of where the Spirit of God is in this traumatic event) and Jesus came into the scene and picked my little girl self up and held me and shoo'ed my dad out of the room, held me and assured me he was there, he had me, my dad was his problem and not mine and he'd deal with him later, etc. That comforting change of scenes of my memory may seem completely false to someone who doesn't believe in Jesus' divinity, so of course it wouldn't probably work for everyone. But if you are a believer I encourage you to seek out someone to help you pray through your childhood memories of abuse...that is if you'd like to be a better functioning adult! If you're a happy child, well, ok! But I needed to start adulting and it didn't really start happening for me until age 38 when I could finally see my dad as just a sad, pathetic human guy with issues of his own that didn't affect me any more. I was able to let it all go and just unemotionally treat him with the same kindness I would show a bum on the street. Very freeing.
@@kmsongbird Prayer is just another repression mechanism. You need to fully grieve and feel the pain. Prayer and belief in jesus just function as a drug and keeps you from actually healing.
I’m really so happy you’re finally exploring your true self. And I genuinely feel for you and understand you. Peace love and health to you 💗💗💗💗 I love you
@@anthonyiacobucci3652 Oh I grieved for 18 years prior to this, 18 years of wanting to forgive him but not being able to. I felt that pain, too. It was time to stop. You call it repression mechanism. I call it being done being a child and starting to grow up. Belief in Jesus may be a drug to some but it is life to me and I wouldn't trade the experience of this drug for anything in the world.
I had trauma all my childhood and was controlled for so long. I thought it was my fault and called it depression. At 60 I felt obliterated. At 65 I started to be the real me for the first time ever. A year later I am getting used to it and finding myself more resilient. Fewer friends, and family relationships not as I expected, but its ok -and so worth the hard work to get here.
aah no wonder i can only see clearly n stand up for myself when at the tipping point but unfortunately my rage leaves with me guilt and dismantling of whatever boundaries i had to even begin with.
Been traumatized be it sexual abuse as a child. then again as an. Adult , partner physical abuse me in a relationship in my early 20s. And I then a catastrophic betrayal in my last relationship I'm surprised I'm even alive. I'm inately strong mentally but at those time psychologically weak. And still to this day in failure to recognize people who really want to do me harm. That is a he most worrisome, going on 13 yrs marriage but the life before holy sh... When people ask me how do you do it. I say well just look at the moon 🌙 and how battered and bruised it was is and yet we still seek it at darkest of nights to learn that our paths. Among other things. ❤ I'm still rebuilding and now dealing with a narcissistic coworker I can't get away from.
@mcpartridgeboy I hear you, brother. However, you don't know anything about this particular individual. You are making baseless assertions because of your anger. She may or may not he the type of person you describe, but "be angry and do not sin" applies here.
I feel like I’m a teenager in my 30-ies. I’m only now discovering who I am and learning to know my own mind. I am having conversations with myself trying to raise myself into a normally functioning adult. Sometimes I’m surprised I can be this kind to myself - it feels unusual and strange, but maybe I also deserve to feel good about myself.
The vast majority of people are like this. They think they are staying youthful, but in reality, they are stuck at around the age they were traumatized.
I thought I had worked on those issues already, but it is like peeling an onion. Very slowly. I am almost forty and still get surprised to learn new things about me or about the world. And every time, it feels exactly the way you described.
I know these issues are much deeper, but to shut down someone's nature brings this to mind... have you ever seen someone make fun of another person's laugh? And then you watch their smile fade as they become self conscious of how they express their happiness? That is absolutely heartbreaking to me. I don't care if it happens to me, I can tell someone to screw off. But when you see it happen to someone else and watch how it crushes their spirit, I feel so bad. I can't stand people that attack others like that.
That shit happened to me because od my lisp. I would change my vocabulary just to avoid sounding out the th and s sounds, and of course sometimes it was unavoidable. It hurt when people made fun of my lisp.
I feel the same. I am not religious but for me, a happy natural laugh is something sacred. We are so small and vulnerable in this world, and still sometimes we laugh, happily like there are no worries at all. To make fun of or mock those moments is like striking a dagger straight in other persons heart. It really hurts me every time somebody does that to another person.
@@chriscams9303 aww I feel you! Igave myself speech therapy to get rid of the dreaded lisp around 6th grade (forCee mySelf to match my teeth up for SSSSSS. unnatural feeling lol) Still lisp if I'm stoned lol get too relaxed and become normal again.
This resonated so deeply. People who don't know how to grieve after being traumatized end up being the ones who traumatize others the same way as they were traumatized.
This stuff totally applies to animals. We rescued a german shepherd last year, and he was so timid and shy for the first few months we had him. Gradually, as he began to notice that we care for him and let him be himself, more of his true personality started coming out. He became a little more pesky, a little more energetic, and a lot more fun. He used to have so much anxiety and now he just enjoys his new home. Everyone notices how much happier he is.
A GSD has more capacity to love and snuggle and goof and play,....and _still_ be ready to *work hard* at the drop of a hat. Awesome that you rescued him.
you did a good deed.. so many animals are suffering... the world ignores their plight and how their numbers are alarmingly reducing ... it is a very upsetting situation we have brought upon ourselves... may God save us.
I grew up in an abusive home, but was so determined to live my dream it didnt affect me, until I failed at my dream...which absolutely ruined me as a human, and i never recovered.
I walked away from my parents and brother 20 years ago. They are all mean and bitter people. I had to break away to find out that I am not who they made me to believe who I was. Finding me is an on-going process. I'm a work in progress and I am getting there! I'm 60 now and I have not given up on myself. I will always be growing and that's a good thing!
So very sorry. But understand completely. I have shunned all my family and so called friends. Friends were as srlf centered and selfish as the family. All used me and when I said enough to all of em, THEY ALL GOT MAD AND CALLED ME OUT OF CONTROL CAUSE THEY COULD NOT LIE OR MANIPULATE ME ANYMORE. ...... 🙏
You spent 30 minutes recording this and helped a million people over the world make sense of the terrible confusing state theyre in. Thank you. Ill always remember this video.
Just because he has a million views doesn't mean he's helped a million people. Just because someone watches a video doesn't mean they agree with it. Lying to someone, even to make them feel better or good, is still unhealthy and manipulative.
"Sometimes parents like it when their children are traumatized" this made me physically recoil, for how true it is. Ironically, my parents started disliking my traumatized self as well, because I wasn't behaving like a healthy, normal child and teen would. I was well behaved to the point they had to be borderline psychotic to find faults in me and accuse me of plotting for their downfall.
Traumatized probably isn’t the best but not trying to remove every situation where your child might be stressed or pushed to a limit has benefits so they know the feeling and how to use the tools they’ve developed to navigate to a better situation is beneficial, to me.
🙏I am so deeply sorry for your suffering. Jesus said there is going to be a resurrection. The True God will end all suffering, pain and tears at his appointed time. Revelation 21:3-4
I’m so sorry for your loss. I never had my own children but I was very happy to be an aunt but I lost my 22 year old nephew in 2022 and I don’t think I’ll ever be the same, I accepted I will never recover and I feel like I’m just trying to cope. It’s the most painful thing to experience and some days it’s almost unbearable. Some people just have no comprehension and seem to expect me to just get over it meanwhile I’m drowning in grief.
@@guesswhosbackg6616 unfortunately most tend to overlook how society and culture has a major influence on adults raising children, somthing to really worth looking at and questioning, especially in today's times.
One thing I find truly amazing is how as we age the memories come back to us; it's almost as if our bodies reveal these memories only after we have grown into wellness, so we are not overwhelmed and we can integrate them in healthy ways.
100% the human mind is incredible. It will keep the trauma unconscious as a survival mechanism. As a young child you must see your parents as perfect and right because you rely on them for survival. The child will see everything as their fault so as to create a sense of being in control. "If only I was like x, then that wouldn't have happened", "I deserve it, "I'm broken" etc. Of course once we are an adult and can care for ourselves, those memories and introjects (internalized voice of the abuser) will break through into our subconscious and conscious minds. MDMA is an incredible tool for this process because it allows memories and feelings to arise from the unconscious but in a way that can be physically processed in the body.
I wish psychologists would start referring to this as 'conditioned helplessness' rather than 'learned helplessness', which carries a different connotation and can also seem pejorative. 'Conditioned' helplessness puts immediate emphasis on the fact that the sensibility developed unconsciously over time, by repeated and consistent false or misleading feedback. To many people, terminology like 'learned helplessness' resonates closely with the idea of learning to perform helplessness for its social and logistical advantages, which is a very different phenomenon than what's actually being described by the phrase. "Conditioned helplessness" decreases the odds that these two very different scenarios will be conflated.
It also implies that it is someting you can easely unlearn. The idea is that if you can understand that your behavior follows a pattern of learned helplessness, that that insight should immediately dissolve the negative pattern by recognizing it as such. And that is simply not realistic. It is also not enough to simply destroy negative behavioral pattern you also need to replace them with positive and or socially accepted patterns. And for that you are also dependant on a certain kind of useful feedback from people. the way that society works that not gonna happen usually because society is competition for a limited amount of good spaces. a sort of perpetual war of all against all. so if people see you as a potential rival and see some kind of weakness they will go for the kill and make a good efford to get any notions of ideas above your standing out of your head whenever they get the chance.
Im at this season in life, of transformation by loving myself, and suddenly, all the anxious attachments I had with everyone are disappearing. It's amazing. Along with finding God as a source of love, my validation and worth are coming from him, and I'm so different now, I don't need to cling onto people so desperately..
Narc some day your victim may be stalking your sorry ****. Not all gets forgiven, some should not get in my sight. They may get the bad reaction they deserve. Especially if you act like my 6th grade teacher you will lose.
I was raised by two narcissists and then married one .....I think I will have this video played for my eulogy .....you could not be more right!!!Thank You
We who have children... listen and think deeply on this. We need to be the one to break the cycle. Don't ignore it, if you know you're the parent doing this to your children. BREAK. THE. CYCLE.
I did. My step father beat me mercilessly. Today, he would have been arrested. In the 1960s, nope. I never hit my children. I never brow beat them or verbally abused them . I remembered how it felt. I loved my children. Love does not abuse...in any way. My children are grown now. They are wonderful people. They had the freedom to choose to be themselves without the terror I grew up with. I broke that mold in our family
The first part of your presentation described my childhood. My father always had a glint in his eye and a subtle smile when I was traumatized; my mother would then giggle. This continued until he died. My grief started to come when I disassociated from them and felt almost orphaned. Then the grief for the boy who was never allowed to be. I had to become my own parent to myself early on to function. I remember one night driving to the house I grew up in and parked outside my old bedroom window. I saw my young face staring out, as I would always do, and I pointed at him and beckoned to come out. I saw the young me come out through the door and I physically opened the passenger side and saw him get in. I physically put the seatbelt on him and said out loud, "you don't live their anymore. You're with me now and let me tell you about your new life." We drove for ages and to this day I talk to him as the father that I should have had. All of this and much more undid their brainwashing. Thank you so much for this video. x
That made me cry. I kinda see myself from time to time as a child and a young woman and wished I could have been there to mentor her. I do it more so now that life has brought me more understanding of the abuse of power used against me. Esp extreme mental cruelty. Thank you for sharing.
Wow, I really liked your story! That is a great and actionable advice, and gave me goosebumps picturing that for myself. Our younger selves shape our adult internal view so drastically and dramatically, and to undo it often requires direct action like this. 👍
Initially, I grieved for the loss of family relationships, even though they were toxic. It has taken five years to fully let go of the bewilderment, confusion, and melancholy which I felt. These days, I simply reflect on that time, pleased that I have moved on with the help of practical tools from different philosophies - Stoicism, Taoism. For everyone on the journey, there really is light at the end of the tunnel.
Growing up in an environment of passive-aggressive abuse scarred me deeply. I couldn’t feel my feelings and accept their validity. My experience with psychiatry and conventional therapy was a nightmare. I finally reached a point where I felt ready to ignore the faulty advice of others and look for the pain within. Grieving has been my healing. Unraveling the stuck trauma by feeling my body and my still center within the pain. It’s an emotional alchemy no one can do for me but me.
Right on brother. Same thing with me. Did it all myself. Used journaling and depression doesn’t exist for me for decades. My children haven’t a clue what depression is.
“Ignore the faulty advice of others”. I stopped all counseling and ceased discussing my issues with friends, many who would unwittingly re-traumatize by failing to ask a single question before giving some cliched comment, “we all have problems,”, “just let go and stop dwelling on the past”, “I’ll pray for you”. Only in complete isolation could I begin the healing process. Thanks for your insightful words. 😀
what practises did you do to reconnect with your body and get into your body? I am so ungrounded and disconnected from myself … so much so i’ve lost a sense of what i want and who i am…
I was traumatized many times as a child. And it made me a very angry person. I used to never cry and often reacted in anger. I was always running away and getting arrested for one thing or another. Then when my dad died, I grieved like I never had before. My dad was a very nice person. I decided after that that I wanted to be a person like my dad. A person that helped people. And now I’m a pretty big cryer. I cry for other people and animals more than myself. I just wish I could help more.
You just explained my childhood & early twenties. Then I had two daughters with a narcissist that punished me by withholding money and emotional & physical affection. I left him when my youngest daughter was a week from turning 2. My oldest daughter at right before age 5. That's when the Parental Alienation & psychological abuse REALLY began!! You can never discard a narcissist and not get hurt terribly. They'll use your kids (THEIR KIDS) as collateral damage bc that's THE ONLY thing left that will really kill you. My daughters are grown now and they're damaged & I can't help but blame myself. Maybe if I had stayed, I could've saved my girls from trauma from being away from me bc he was awarded joint custody bc he came from a family of means. It's been an awful 17 1/2 years to say the least. 😢 I'm finally in a very healthy, loving relationship with a wonderful man that came from an abuser be home and then married a narcissist himself bc she got pregnant on purpose. She discarded him two and a half years ago and their one child has no contact with her Mom bc she cheated, as most narcissists do. I just got back into Trauma & Grief therapy and support groups bc I realize I'm broken. Progress not Perfection.
Be very careful, let yourself heal. You will know when this is complete. You will know because you remember who you are. Then you may help others if you wish.
Yes! For too long I “waited” for the apologies, the acknowledgment of their mistakes. How dumb is that?! Never going to happen. I’m now learning to think/feel as if I am extinguishing the power of those emotions and memories that live inside of me. I want to be free and joyful. In order to do that I have to make room for these new feelings. Does that make any sense at all 🤪
@@cynthiaopsahl3422 Two things I’d say: firstly, it’s definitely not “dumb” that one would deeply want that those who have wronged you to acknowledge and apologize for what they had done, regardless of how possible that is, that’s a very reasonable emotional desire, one which is actually very painful and hard to come to terms with. If you think about it for a second, the notion that such feelings are dumb is probably sourced from conditioning you got that unconsciously convinced you that you cannot afford to legitimately feel your feelings. Emotions, by their nature, either have to be dealt with at their core, or will continue to live in your subconscious or conscious mind and influence you, so dealing with them is necessary to heal. The fact that various people in your life have wronged you and will never do you any better is one of the things you will have to deeply grieve as you try and learn how to heal, and it will probably be a very difficult and involved thing. Secondly, I would caution you on trying to “extinguish the power” of your feelings as your only solution, and if I interpret you right it seems like a largely combative attitude to changing your internal state. This is often necessary to a degree unfortunately, often times we are simply not ready yet to really feel and work directly with our deep wounds, but to truly heal, that is the ultimate necessary process. It would be hard to say how ready or not ready for that you are being that I don’t really know you, but that is something you will need to figure out on your path. One of the most hugely powerful things with me has been talking to a family member who’s both a really good listener and who’s life experience and perspective I really respect and find valuable. If you have any friends or family members like that you can talk to, it’s just amazing what it can do for you. I think there are also a whole bunch support groups that exist, I haven’t looked into it personally but that probably serves a lot of similar functions. Lastly I would say the other major thing that’s been massively helpful for me has been a regular spiritual practice. Personally I am really a fan of this guy “Sadhguru”, maybe you’ve seen him floating around RU-vid recommendations. Ironically his approach to emotions is highly dismissive and that’s like my least favorite thing about him, but the practices he offers (Shambhavi, a meditation technique, his various Hatha Yoga things) have been really fanstastic for me, I do two of them daily, roughly the meditation thing and a yoga posture practice, and I really think they are exceptionally powerful as far as any meditation things I’ve tried. Unfortunately each one is relatively expensive as they have to train teachers really thoroughly to be able to teach the practices, and for some you can only learn them directly from a teacher (they have a page of trained teachers and their locations around the world) but you can tell theirs a certain level of sophistication and depth to what you’re learning which is hard to find for free or like say online. If you don’t jive with that or don’t want to go that far yet or anything like that, I would still say though, take up some yogic practice, maybe just look around online for something that feels like it would help, Aum chanting is great, some pranayama or breathing techniques are great, I’d be careful about ‘mindfulness meditation’ as for people with a lot of emotional trauma or wounds, the fact that you’re just letting your mind run makes it so that it can make you become more conscious of a lot of stuff faster than you’re ready and it can actually be very harmful, but whatever you do, pick something, anything like this and practice it daily. Even if it’s just 5 minutes start there. In a few months you’ll be so glad you did, You won’t notice the positive changes it’s having on your till a while in, but when you do, it’s really something remarkable.
I was aware of my losses. In terms of relationships , self development , progress in life. But I actually grieve now. I cry everyday over some memory. Narcissist step mother who controlled me , narcissist husband for whom I was a slave and giving me a loveless marriage. I’m 60, going through a divorce , wondering if I’ll ever know who I really am.
@@katyflame3668 I’m so sorry for everything that happened to you. If you don’t mind, I’d like to offer a bit of advice. Besides everything Daniel talked and talks about in this video (he’s got plenty of other fantastic stuff that’s worth watching) and doing things like talking to a good listening friend, if you’re lucky enough to have one, these being things which directly work with your thought and emotions, I’ve found personally that some sort of spiritual practice it’s highly beneficial. It’s not a substitute for the emotional and mental work, it’s kind of felt like some sort of a force which generally revitalizes me and makes me feel more alive, strong, and capable of doing whatever it is I need to, including dealing with emotions. You totally don’t have to go this specific route, but I’m a big fan of the practice offerings of this figure “Sadhguru”. Ironically his approach to emotions is very flippant, which is my least favorite thing about him, but if you get past that a lot of what he has to say is very valuble, but more importantly he offers some really fantastic yoga/meditation practices he offers. Unfortunately they all both cost a good bit of money, like $300 I think, and a bit of time investment to learn and do some the practices, their most common one takes about 21 or 40 minutes once or twice a day depending on if you include some preparatory things in your practice. But when you learn them it’s obvious theirs a certain level of sophistication and depth to the practice you are learning which you might be hard pressed to doing elsewhere, especially free, and I’ve found the two practices I’ve been doing are having more of a tangible positive effect and faster than anything else I’ve done, it’s been very amazing to watch, it’s been essential in some of the recent things I’ve been dealing with. If you’re not about that, it’s worthwhile to do your own personal explorations of this stuff, it’s actually called yoga, before yoga got kind of distorted in the west: pranayama, meditation techniques, mantras, etc. Aum chanting is a fantastic one, just opening your mouth into an “Ah”, closing it slowly through “oo” to “m”, with the three portions approximately equal. But the most important thing is choose something and do it daily, if that means starting with 5 minutes a day that’s totally fine, ideally build up from there. You some months in the future will be so glad you did, trust me. I really think we should be teaching yoga and meditation techniques to our populace in school, it’s such valuble and powerful stuff yet totally underappreciated and underutilized in our society. The only thing I’d caution against is mindfulness, as it’s basically a practice where you’re supposed to increase your general mental awareness and let your mind run free for some time and that can often be problematic for people with lots of trauma.
I hated myself for a long time because of my childhood and eventually I sat myself down and had a talk with myself about my feelings. I forgave myself for hating me. I talked with myself for like an hour and then went to bed. That was almost a year ago and I’ve never had a single bad thought about myself since. I don’t mean to think I’m perfect but I don’t self loathe anymore. It took me 8 years to figure out that forgiving myself was the key
i agree that "accepting yourself" and to stop "hating or loathing yourself" is an important step to healing, and toward loving yourself. thank you for sharing. keep progressing toward "learning to love yourself."
I can not forgive myself for all the things i did out of desperation / insecurity trough out the years.. I have been so strong in many ways but also weak in others, but i can never forgive myself for not being able to forgive myself :(
I recall begging my ex not to destroy the fiery nature of our first born, a daughter, when she acted like any other 2 yr old. I explained to him, "that is who she is". Unbelievably he took it to heart.
I came from a dysfunctional family and then I got bullied in school for a while and I can definitely see where I was shut down from being my authentic self. I still struggle to this day.
same and im 19. My mom was the narcissist, she used to tell me i would never amount to anything and she told me she signed me up for low income housing when i got older
Coming from a verbally abusive alcoholic family, I couldn't be myself ever. I took this into abusive adult relationships and felt continually beat down for being myself. Eventually I put up a huge wall to keep people out. I was then accused of being arrogant and unapproachable..
Bullying is disgusting. I can't get over the fact that some people, instead of working on themselves, thinking their thoughts through, reflecting, just make someone even more vulnerable their punching bag. Recovering from bullying and other types of verbal abuse is difficult, but i have faith in you. You're already doing so much to improve yourself, to make yourself a better person. You can do this. If the words of this random stranger mean anything to you. I wish you success with your recovery, and to be surrounded by kind and caring people
Getting away from everyone and exploring yourself and who you are is one of the most enlightening things you can do. I'm there again now living abroad for the last 6 years...barely have any friends but I'm clearer and happier than ever. Throughout my life I've known both sides, at times very socially active... in many different types of relationships. But when I look back on my life the happiest times were when I was going solo and rooted deeply in myself...
Very few men have this level of emotional integrity. By emotional integrity, I mean the ability to see crying as good and rejuvenating. WOW Dr. Daniel! Amazing!!
This is the best explanation of what happens to abused and traumatized children by their parent/s I've ever heard, and what I'm currently going through at age 55. I've heard so many channels talk about learned helplessness but none have explained it in a way I can understand. You're what I'd describe as an excellent teacher!
Yeah -- I think a huge part of the healing, of triggering in you the beginnings of a complete return of your true self, is absolutely creativity. When you learn how to give yourself the space for all of the wistfulness, imagination, weirdness, and whimsy of your own creativity, you start to learn how to treat yourself better and how to give yourself the space to also be yourself. Then you start allowing yourself to feel your true feelings, come out of your shell with your true personality, have spirits and energy that are beautiful and high. And once you can somehow find a way to make the space for yourself unequivocally in that creative space no matter what or who else also gives that space to you or wants you to have creativity going on, you slowly start to learn how to be yourself, even to the very people who hurt you so deeply for doing so. But it hurts less. It makes sense why there is so much healing in the whole of the arts and creativity, but the key is where it taps into this true change, of an internal sense of freedom to be yourself. ♡ (Good luck on the journey ahead. :))
@@TubeMeisterJC oh now, go and blow it out of your emotional and compassionate heart 😉😄 I'm kidding with no ill intent. I hope it translates, but probably won't. That's one of the sad things about the internet. Joking and tongue in cheek comments are very hard to convey or understand.
Perfect description of the effects of trauma. I remember the exact moment i had to shutdown parts of me. Many years i spent not knowing if my thoughts, actions or, heaven forbid< feelings would be accepted or punished.
I had horrible parents, an a brother and they all made my childhood a hell on earth. They were beyond abusive, their violence, so much of it directly to me, was off the charts. I'm alive by the grace of God. They hated me, then when I was 15 I was thrown out into the streets...where I had to figure out how to survive while running from predators and pedophiles...after having been molested...I had no safe place on the planet. Then, at 18, I was just getting myself together, and while waiting for the bus on my way to work, I was kidnapped at gunpoint by a serial killer. For a week I was beaten brutally and raped constantly. But I escaped. I was his last victim and only survivor. But now I'm in my 60s and dealing with complex trauma, complex ptsd...among other things like fibromyalgia and agoraphobia. My entire adult life has been about trying to heal...while working, maintaining a marriage and raising children, mine and others...I will probably limp along the rest of my days...but I'm alive, and those who tormented me are dead. I win mfers...😏
I restarted my emotional growth 20 years ago. Depression has since been completely unknown to me. My teen sons have no clue what depression even is. Daniel is describing the exact same experience I went through, reconnecting with my emotional truth.
@@justynjonn My older son says he’s slightly disturbed how he’s never met anyone like himself. My younger son can only relate to youth 4 years older than himself. Neither can quite get a grip of what’s going on. I know!
"The private world" analogy hits home for me. I had so much energy as a kid that I could create multiple worlds and even live there in my head and others were jealous. Even now I don't have any friends, but I honestly don't care. My dreams and day dreams will keep me entertained for the rest of my days. You are forced to develop your imagination and that was my 'key' out. And it still is today.
Same. My imagination has always sustained me and kept me going. Though, I don't want to be a slave to my self-made escapism. It does always feel like a "key" out and probably always will be for me, too, but I know I need balance and it would be tragic to not seek out the things I know I need in life (like meaningful companionship for example.) Either way, I'm glad I have the "private world" - it's pretty reliable!
I can somehow relate to the inner world,shit I used to daydream for hours about what pissed me off It’s only after so many years that i realized that there’s one truth that i chose to ignore regularly despite being in-front my eyes ,, it took a bad turn when I indulged in my delusions without even realizing it!! Avoidance behavior was what fueled my daydreaming skills day by day , with drugs being introduced into the “inner world” equation, i was left with psychosis , ironically positive delusions, it helped w/ anxiety and depression but my entitlement was something I wouldn’t talk about it back in the days Carful it’s a thought loop not a mental “prison” , i hope i break the chains of my -ve thoughts
I had to reach my 70s before I found myself again. The process was long, slow, and painful. My trauma also started in childhood, and for the same reasons as Daniel explains in his video. He even mentions his parents saying what happened to the old Daniel. I myself had to hear 'you were such a little dove, what happened.' My answer was 'how could I be a dove in this house.' Hats off to you, Daniel! ❤❤❤
Your 70s? You too, huh? (Well, my late 60s.) Most of my problems came from so-called "friends." I walked away from the whole world (except for family). I no longer have any "friends", and I DON'T WANT any.
@willrivers1819Because it is in person’s DNA 🧬. Narcissistic personality is never going to leave Humanity. The good news is that now you don’t have to wait until you’re 70 to recognize it when you see it or are its victim. You can understand earlier that the “problem” is not you necessarily. It doesn’t solve the problem but at least you know what “hit you”.
My mom always asked me what happened to her son referring to my cheerful outgoing 7 year old self and I always felt confused why she asked that so often. Slowly remembering all the trauma she caused me to become distant and callus to her I understand why she asked that. I know she felt guilty, and I wanted to love her, but her “ I’m sorry” did nothing for me at that point.
Same here. She said, "You know, I'm sorry as I can be." She's only sorry that I grew up into someone who isn't a helpless defenseless child that she can manipulate and abuse.
Same. My dad would ask why I wasn’t the adoring, happy child I used to be. Uh maybe bc your anger was the flip of a switch and I never knew which side of you I’d get
I never cried when my mother died... eventually I realized she meant little to me. She always wished that I had never been born, cautioned me to NEVER have kids (which I didn't), and while she was able to financially, she never gave me even the most basic things I begged her for... so how could I grieve her when she died? She failed at every single opportunity to show me any semblance of love from age 5 to age 40. Still... I was very surprised that when she died, for days, and then months, and as years passed, I never shed one single tear but always hoped it would one day come. And of course, I've always been envious of people who grieve and mourn the death of their mothers or fathers. I would never know what that felt like. You can't mourn the loss of a love that never was. I was always left alone while they were getting drunk at the bar every night. All we had was an empty house in a pre-EPA LA suburb where my lungs ached and my eyes bled from the pollution... we just had a TV set with 5 channels... anything I loved she got rid of... the piano, books, records, pets... etc. She never asked how I was, what I was studying in school... she always mocked my good grades, laughed hysterically when I told her I wanted to be a doctor... etc... she could have written a book called "How to Destroy your Child." I tried suicide twice but it didn't work. Who could cry when someone like that dies?
@@Kinkle_Z I indeed believe that you can mourn love that never happened, because everybody - no matter who, needs love to develop and function properly. I myself regard this situation of recovering from lack of parental care as mourning for them (or rather their role which they didn't fulfill) and burying them while they still are alive. They never fulfilled their role, so why to cry after their death when they already aren't doing their job? I don't mean to blame them for everything - I figured out reasons why my parents are like this but I also believe that these reasons don't relieve them from their responsibilities. I hope my comment will somehow be useful for you, though it may sound a bit chaotic - english isn't my first language ;) Take care!
@@alexxx4434 Therapy as an occupation is a joke. I'm not paying money for someone to talk to me. It's the same with prostitution. I'm not paying money to receive affection. It's degrading.
"Breaking through the wall of silence" is a very powerful way to describe how it feels to process trauma. Trauma can never be undone. We can never go back to who we were before the damage was done. But we can become something new - something that is fully completely alive, in its own new way.
"Go back to who we were before " for many of us there is no "who we were before " the trauma started from birth . I will never be a ble to be Me because simply there s no "me " I didn't develop it , I wasn't aloud .
@@newanas5271 you can create a new you. Find what you like, what you genuinely enjoy, regardless of what anyone else says. What are the values you believe in, the personality traits that feel right, the preferences, the interests, the activities you enjoy. It can be a painful, emotional process to investigate and discover those things later in life, but it’s never too late 💜
@@newanas5271 I feel the same. I have very few memories of my childhood. Whatever went wrong in my life, went wrong at a very early age. From my present perspective, my demons have been here as long as I have. I can't imagine existence without them. Perhaps this is why I chose to focus on creating something new. There is no "healing" for some of us. We ARE our wounds. But we don't need to be imprisoned by that. We can become the person we choose to become. I know that my demons are very powerful. If they are a part of me, then I will use their power to create something true and beautiful.
I didn't even watch the whole thing and I had to comment; the way you said "parents love it when their children get traumatized", it just hit home for me. I grew up around people(family and extended family) who are emotionally stunted. The only expressions I have seen, were anger, and avoidance of complex conversations. I saw fear mongering and gossip everyday. This led me to believe that "good" children don't talk, are extremely obedient and don't ask for things, they don't have opinions. It led me to make myself smaller, more invisible and dim myself to make others feel brighter. And I did it for years and years, and it reached a breaking point. Anyway, I think it'll be a huge essay if I add every detail, but to conclude, I am 29 now, and for the first time in my life, I am living as me. It feels so different, overwhelming even, but so freeing. I am never, ever dimming myself to accommodate others, ever again.
I could probably count on one hand the number of times I cried between the ages of 13 and 42. Then I started my healing journey. So much crying. I’ve probably averaged a cry a day since then. Some as short as a few seconds, and as long as 30 minutes. Sometimes several times a day. Which sounds awful like I’m in a deep depression but it’s very healing crying. Well over 90% of the time it’s tears of joy. Just last night I was crying because I made a request of a friend, how she was interacting with me. She validated my request and accommodated it! I felt so grateful to feel worth accommodating, like I have value and it’s ok to have needs. My personality has completely changed. I changed so much over the pandemic that when I went back to the office after 2+ years of the pandemic that my coworkers still don’t seem to recognize it. They’re waiting for the other shoe to drop and for me to go back to my old toxic self. That guy is gone and he’s never coming back.
I like your explanation of how this crying is different from depression. I describe it as having a purity to it - it's proof to me in the very moment that I'm healing so I celebrate my tears.....and the gratitude you describe for a friend validating you - all the relatively small (but SO not small) ways we notice when someone respects us - the initial shock of it...and then the realization...oh this is what real friendship and love is....Anyway, happy for you. I am currently on the deep dive into the worst of the trauma and seeing the shifts too. It's worth the work. It's taken me most of my life to get here.
I went through many years of pain... the death of my Grandma, 3 serious relationships (one was a normal guy, 1 was a narcissist, one a psychopath), plenty of other trauma in-between including chronic sickness, and then being rejected by a long-term friend of 10 years who gave signals that he loved me so believed something could start up with us. I obviously suffered a lot through all of that and experienced times of extreme depression and sadness but still I struggled to actually cry, I struggled to express pain in the form of tears. Just after this I had a VERY short relationship with another narcissist and I'm telling you I spent 2 years crying buckets. It's not about him, but it's years of pain being opened up, there was a huge wound of grief inside of me from years of suffering. I could just sit and cry for hours and hours and I was so relieved because it was like grief was finally being released. It's like when you cry at a funeral of someone you don't know because it's easier to process somehow than the person you knew because that is too painful. That's how I feel it happened for me - I cried about the person I barely knew but it wasn't really about him, it was about everything else that came before it! But I feel great because I'm back in touch with my emotions.
I think grieving does help you heal your traumas, but it is actually very tough to grieve. It's not easy. I feel like you have to be at a certain level of wellness in your mind in order to grieve. The reason we grieve is because we are finally able to look at our traumas from a healthy perspective. A healthy sense of self which is then able to look at the damage done by finally beeing able to forgive the self and feel love and compassion for it. What stops one from grieving is that they view their traumas in a way that it makes them spiral down the path of self hate and sometimes suicide. It's hard to get to a space where you are truly able to cry in compassion for the self, otherwise associating with the traumas I feel damage you more because they are extremely painful to associate with when your sense of self has somewhat been destroyed or shut down. The only time I was able to grieve trauma was when I took mushrooms because it gave me the mental space to finally do so. It's almost impossible to grieve through the perception of self hate.
A book ''Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving'' gives insights about self hate. Finally we can grow. Although I find it weird how the author casually mentions his grandmother as an internal source of comfort, that perplexed me. How can that be? It's it the grandmother's inability(choice) to self reflect and take responsibility the very reason why his parent traumatized him? Of course, don't feel pressured to answer this question
I'd look up kirsten neff a self compassion researcher.. if you can learn to be more self compassionate towards yourself about your trauma or as david clarke md put it if you can see yourself as a hero for surviving all that instead of a victim, then you realise that you're incredible your mind body was a hero for trying to keep you safe any way it could and youre a hero for still being here.. it wasnt justified or ok but nevertheless you're still a powerful hero compared to what your abuser(s) wanted you to view yourself.. the abusers wanted you to see yourself as broken / irredeemable etc but you are none of those things.. you still are you and you're a hero
I believe his grandmother was more of an enabler and it was his grandfather that was the cruel one. She probably had more empathy and was able to provide some sense of comfort. My guess.
This is a great comment. I agree with you. But taking psychedelics didn't take me to that place...it made me feel more traumatized and overwhelmed. But I agree my natural grieving process was shut down and my body lost the ability to grieve and was self-hating. When your sense of self is shut down its impossible to grieve. Grieving is for "healthy" people.
Brilliantly explained. I've begun to isolate myself from members of my family and others who are less sensitive than I am, and yes... it's helping me heal my wounds and find myself. My wounds began at birth...I was shut down and unwanted. By removing myself from any and all people who continue to push me down and shut me up...that is where I've found healing.
Hello friend, once I heard a saying in some video (I can’t recall rn but I think it was a Daoist philosophy video) that soothed that feeling of being “unwanted” inside of me a little, so I thought I’d share it. Essentially it is the idea that if all things in this Universe are here and make part of this total wholeness, then no part of it is “unwanted” as the whole Universe needs and wants you to be itself as much as everything else contained within it needs each other.
I’m happy to hear you’re well on your journey of healing! I have been through similar, working on a half decade now of no contact with my abusive/emotionally immature father, and just leaving that oppressive space, especially if they lived with you, is so freaking powerful and mindstate altering, for me it was like a clearing of a cloudy sky, allowing me to finally spread my wings and start on the path to rediscover myself, grow, and mature. I hope the best for you and anyone else in similar situations on your lifelong journey
I find removing all the lieing selfish narcissistic people from my life I am alone. Thats a sister, children, friends, neighbors..I trust NO one and I thought we were meant to give and share ...... all family and friends were takers, liars, and no compassion for the ones they should have compassion for......I'll die alone and never truly belonging. My mom and grandma, decades and decades gone were the only 2 in this long sad lonely life that ever truly cared. I know there is God, and God and the critters are all I have.
My mother once told my older brother, "I just don't know what to do or say to Pauline. Everything I do or say is wrong." This, after years of therapy and undoing the trauma I experienced as a little child living in my parent's home. My response: "No mom. It's that I no longer allow myself to be shut down that way anymore. I am becoming the me that I always was and you aren't liking that I am slipping out of your controlling box." I agree with everything you said in this video.
Props to you pauline its so hard setting boundaries ! Especially confusing when the toxicity is coming from your own mom! The one who's supposed to support and luv u the most.. Sumtimes it DOES help admitting nobodys perfect EVEN HER.EVEN THO SHE ACTS AS if she is. Maybe shes GIVING ALL her mom has given her? Its our job to break the cycle so ur veru brave i too plan this.. thanks for the encouragement... ☆☆▪︎▪︎ Xoxoxo.. ✨️💫✨️💫✨️💫💫💫
That's a good one, good for you! My mom took my grandmother in when her husband passed and she's been pulling this with all her siblings for at least a decade now. Being around to know the hypocrisy in the complaint has been a frustrating home-life to have very little say in. The phrase "It's all in your head" finally made my mom snap into not caring anymore a couple years ago and after switching her attention to demanding more help with taking Gma to doctor appointments and stuff it's finally turned into "I don't know how you live with her." It's still a hellish household for us all but many of my mother's stress-related ailments have alleviated since the snap and the moments where she is able to calmly explain a "No" instead of lashing out or storming away are such cool little wins to witness.
My therapist helped me recognize the roles my family played. I was the black sheep and conflict bearer. She said go home, imagine you’re in a film w/ them, and don’t react to anything they say. Omg what you say is true, I changed & didn’t play my role and they escalated the hooks they threw me. It was an epiphany.
@@freddiemehrcurry428 ..it means they are trying even harder to drag him down by playing their usual games, continuing with their usual pattern of dysfunction. A hook is something by which you are caught or beholden or obligated, a strong expectation of a particular behaviour, a strong familial pressure to conform to acceptable behaviour which is actually detrimental to you
Starting my first day as a teacher today working with traumatized students. They have emotional disabilities and have been through experiences in their short lives worse than I have ever had in my life. Thank you for helping me get more of an understanding of how trauma effects individuals.
This is exactly what happened to me. I lost my true self because of repeated frequent consistent narcissistic emotional and physical violations. I can't get angry anymore or bond with people now. I usually only feel apathy and anxiety.
I am not educated. I have been drugged up for many years. Right now sober from addiction. The psychiatry system feels like a scam. Snake oil in a way. I heard they have only have symptoms. I was baffled at my doctor.
My entire childhood I remember feeling mostly anger. Anger at everything, and growing I’ve learned that anger is me just wanting to feel something. And as I’ve grown to feel, my parents no longer even acknowledge my existence. I’ve had to discover an entirely new me, completely on my own, feel feelings I’ve never thought I’ve felt before. This, I feel is my changing point. No longer a breaking point.
I say embrace anger. It’s totally ok. Anger wants change. There are are plenty of ways to change. Perhaps just ending relationships with disrespectful people. Eww that’s a tough one. I’ve done it slowly over 25 years. Try to add people to your life too or loneliness could be too hard.
Anger is dissatisfaction, that you want to change something. Being denied anger is one of the worst things one can have, period. Your story sounds very similar to mine, can't help but relate to you. I don't know you beyond what you wrote here, but this is enough for me. Your anger is justified. People may call it irrational or whatever, and you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being irrational. The people who may tell you that your anger is irrational don't even realize how irrational they themselves are. I hope you rediscover yourself fully. You're already doing a damn good job starting that in the first place. You're actively trying to be better. And that's worth celebrating
I’m 23, and I had a narcissistic, emotionally abusive mother growing up. I resonate with your story and with your wisdom, and you deserve all the progress you’ve made. I’m on my own journey, and I’m glad I’m 23 and not 13 anymore. I’m slowly feeling myself come back. Thank you, Daniel
This was so spot on. I remember having so much spirit, creativity, and critical thinking and my parents despised it. They had to crush it out of me. They brainwashed me with the message that I was the weird one for not being like them. They turned all my siblings against me as well. I never let them see they were getting to me but inside my spirit was broken. Now a decade later they want a relationship but I had to tell them that they stopped being my family a long time ago. I don’t know if it’s to late but how can I ever feel close to them again. I’m not even mad at them anymore. I feel so bad for them and the trauma they had and how much pain that they must have been in and never got relief from. My spirit must have trigged them so much that they felt they had no choice but to squash it. Now I’m the one who has to clean up the mess I never made. My journey of processing and managing the symptoms of my mental illnesses will be lifelong.
Ditto! Your words are SPOT on to someone who was raised by narcissist parents!.. it amazes me how mine spent my young formative years invalidating me, and treating me as eyesore! And now 30 years later she's mad at ME that we don't have a close relationship.. no one understands, truly, unless they've been through it
Yep, this sums it up. At the end of the day you're left alone with the damage. Bad news is they will probably never realize what was going on all those years.
"You're so mature for your age. You're such a smart kid." I wasn't either of those things. I was completely broken. I have DiD. My spirit was shattered into a million pieces since I was born, it feels like. I never got to live a childhood, I was kept inside for years and I barely got to do anything with my life. When I was allowed to go to school (I only went for around ~7 years in total?) the quote I stated earlier were words I was told a lot. It confused me. Because by then, I had already known that I was broken, my self awareness was high. And yet, I was praised for it? For being mute unless spoken to? For obediently doing my schoolwork instead of having a spirit? Now, I have realized that authority wants you to break. There is no good authority, because the existence of authority fundamentally implies that humans are not equal. All authority is built on oppression of individuals.
Kind of lived the same life. I had really strict parents that set a lot of boundaries for me. At 6 I was made to do chores every damn day from morning to after school to nights, and even take care of the animals. I was kept inside all day, and had to ask if I could go play outside, most times it would be a no. Wasn't allowed to the park or go visit for friends. My parents would barely take me anywhere. I had no means of communication or to socialize. Even at school I thought kids lived the same life as mine until I realized that their life had much more freedom than mine did. At school I was struggling just to be me or be spirited. My parents had a really strict mindset. Wasn't allowed on electronics only on Friday and Saturday. During my childhood I was very imaginative because I would play by myself. Even talk to myself. Because I had no one to socialize with or play with. I know that my parents were struggling with their emotions and all that. Sometimes I would really want to stay at school and live there, because I was scared of my parents. They were so mean and they didn't try to talk to me in a calm way. I'm still struggling with my past, I'm now 23. I ran away at 16 to another province where they wouldn't find me. I sometimes wish I could tell them how I felt as a child and how it affected me throughout life and till now. But of course they won't listen and always have something "better" to say or they live a much harder life than you.
Finally someone who understands, it was like balm to a wound reading your take on "authority" and it is the absolute truth. You should however try to acknowledge that your being broken has lead to a much higher level of awareness, that is how it usually works. And for.. dimmer-lit people let's say, that hightened awareness equals to being "smart". They will never know unless they somehow live it it themselves.
Most of the people running this world should have no power over anyone either. We´re abused as adults by powers that be same as we were as children by our parents. Problem is, few ever grow to the point they can see this. They can see the abuse their parents did once they´re adults, but they never want to go all the way and recognize their goverments perpetrating the exactly same thing on their subjects. We´re powerless in front of our goverments manipulation and abuse as we were as children with our parents.
No, no, no - you’ve survived. If you’re feeling pain, consider that a badge of honour. Weak people allow themselves to feel no pain. You’ve seen them. If you’re in than much discomfort its because you’ve chosen to suffer instead of throwing away who you really are. Strange to say, but be proud of your pain. Now, go get your payoff. Repair your ‘outside’ and get everything you’ve been saving up for.
@@SkyeMpuremagic If we consider the cultural aspect, many get children as well as it's expect of them by their parents, by their culture or their god. I've seen it here so often, big family clans and the small kids with housemaids who are not even Nanny's. Often the women are unhappy in their marriage but need to bring more kids. Other cultures need to bring a lot of kids as they expect them to take care of them in old age.... Thinking often times is distorted. Thinking is hard, that's way it's not practiced by everyone I guess.
the bit about a broken child being easier to control made me realize that my folks (mainly one of them who's incredibly narcissistic), were always nice when we were "docile' or "broken in." but when they realized we weren't, they would make it happen by any emotionally destructive means possible
Exactly. I clearly recall as a kid growing up my mother being quite nice and buying us wonderful toys and clothes after she beat us into a trans like, submissive state and after a while I guess we'd begin to wake into a natural child like state again, the cycle would repeat it, until as we become teenagers we stayed in those states for longer to avoid contact with her as humanly possible. I continue that zombie state around her now but I have much clearer boundaries. I was in my 20 yr marriage as well. It was always his way or the highway sort of mentality.
Even in households without narcissism, most parents love easy parenting, meaning - less work for them but at the expense of the childs needs. Sure those parents take care of the bare minimum, the housing and food but emotional and mental well being, the quality time? Too tired, too busy, here's an iPad, here's a video game, here's a pizza, here's a movie, sign you up for another after school class? Basically anything other then the actual parents spending time helping their child emotionally and mentally develop over the years.
@@AA-iy4gm I think Narcissism has ravaged the world. Covert Narcissism looks like a normal human. Trust me. They aren't Psycopathic or grandiose almost at all until you have long term time around them. Source I'm a son 😂
This was really profound to listen to. My Mom passed away unexpectedly earlier this month. It has been traumatizing to say the least. The pain from losing her so suddenly, and the intense grieving, has opened up parts of me that i was not able to access while she was still alive.
I am so sorry for your loss and I deeply resonate. My mama passed 8 years ago and my grief journey has been immense. She was more important to me than I was to myself. Its been a wild ride as I get to know myself and love myself.
The grief is real, I kept going to the same places to try to feel the same old myself but I couldn't. I didn't understand why life didn't feel the same. I had the same cry for a week, I cried like a baby, it felt liberated. I finally faced my inner child for the first time. This was the beginning of my healing process, ever since, my life has been very different. 🙌
It's like an out of body feeling. This grief. So sorry. I guess we are calling it the new normal in process towards healing. I'm sick of it. Maybe that's good.
This is one of the best examples of trauma I've ever heard. It has taken me until my 50s and my best friend, my ex-husband, who was also extremely traumatized is in his 60s....but we each understood that it wasn’t each of us against each other but each of our traumas and we each needed to be alone to figure out our trauma and our grieving. Now, we rarely inadvertently trigger each other and if we do, we have " our selves" who can maturly talk it out. It's sad that it took us so long but we celebrate our successes now....as our real selves.
@@augustusarbogast9862here is one great process for how to speak with one's "self" - the self that was repressed inside: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c3V_Gtfr_YA.html
here's one more- How to connect with your true self : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8eHVH3iuRig.html . In case you're wondering about Teal Swans credentials, she went through severe repeated trauma growing up, and basically dug her way out herself, bringing gems of healing wisdom with her. We actually share the same abuse type and I recognize the truth of what she described she went through , as well as the profound truth she shares for healing. Cheers 🥂 on your journey !
Many grew up without emotional and mental love. They had material security but not love. They are trying to understand what they lost and now what they need to be whole. Salute to you in your journey!
I had severe ADHD as a kid. Then I was told at 7 or 8 I changed and became a more normal and great kid. But, also my fear of death, life, and everything grew exponentially. I learned how to suppress much of my natural intuitive, empathetic self. Many years later with additional severe traumas made me angry and resentful. But, when I lost my mother brought me to my knees. I felt destroyed. I have spent years working on myself and finally no longer fear dying, I embrace concept of love because it is key to all healing,and integrated the child version of me in with all the later versions of myself. All the versions of me are one. And now I'm working on letting everything go you have to love and forgive your self. That seems to be hardest part. But, I know I need it. Thank you for your video.
After years of trying to figure out what was wrong this video helped me make a massive breakthrough. My father constantly berated me and projected himself to me because I was such a pure and real child I made him have to face his trauma, I REMINDED him of it, of his shadow, so he pushed back, a lot. I never let him kill that part of me. Thanks man
People don’t want to hear this when they’re in the grip of it, but suffering is the same as learning. Only instead of learning facts or behaviors, you’re learning compassion. For those who don’t know, when someone is in the grip of suffering, they typically don’t want you to tell them how to solve their problems. They want you to be with them, to acknowledge how they feel and show you understand. That’s compassion. And it’s contagious.
@@ogeo.8966 I understand, Change comes with self compassion. Its helps to have compassion from others as the process if already difficult so without it it just makes it challenging when people don't acknowledge your needs. Yes you can do it all alone but don't dismiss the fact they could have done their part to make it easier but they didn't.
I actually had to come front with 2 issues around the same time : conform to societal rules and conform to someone else's rules disregard to mine I'm the kind of person who wouldn't forgive people easily. I had met a guy who I joined an art event with, and we attended a convention selling artwork together. But his selfish attitude felt like a huge backstab when he snitches my work to the event organiser. It's been a year and I still feel internally betrayed by his behaviour and actions. I tried starting a conversation about it with him, trying to see if he would acknowledge my suffering. He did not. I felt so disgusted with myself and was so tired of this. But because of this I learnt, and still am trying to accept that part of myself others don't like. I became more self assertive, became more aware of red flags of others, and now accepting that not everyone will forgive each other. Sorry for the essay, hope you all have a great day 😊🙏
@@nikson3720 I am sorry you went thru that. Just a note that you don't need him to validate your feelings. In hindsight it is good to have learned this lesson of spoting red flags because part you may have been in fantasy but reality was stark different. It may seem unjust but just sit with that emotion and hope eventually you will learn to trust it and you can avoid a much bigger loss in future from having learned such a huge lesson. Wish you the best and you deserve to go back out there and do it again whenever you are ready. Nothing's changed, you just got wiser and that's ever better.
Thank you SO much for touching on the part where adults notice a change in children, but don’t do anything because they’re happy to just “get a break” and have the kid “calm down”. Adults teach us to walk and talk and then force us to sit down and shut up.
@@earth1710 Consider leaving the trap of thinking that every statement needs to have an in-depth peer-reviewed study from some University in order for it to be true. Some things are just axiomatic, or concluded through observation and intuition.
@@earth1710 The thing about axioms is that people can deny that they're axioms, and there is no way to "prove" them wrong per se. Does that mean axioms don't exist?
What started my healing process was when I moved far away from my parents. I didn't even know that I was traumatized untill then. I knew that I had no personality and didn't know how to express boundaries towards my parents. Now I know it's because of them not accepting me for having a personality and boundaries. I was a zombie as kid, who never said a word. Even with my movements I had to be careful, because if I opened the wrong drawer to take a spoon, I would be yelled at
Yeah, it's like trying to to "read" the parents mood, to guess if you can say or do something now, or if it would cause drama, reproach and aggression and you are better off being silent
Spot on. Kind of recently, my sister moved out, she was talking with me and both of us kind of came to this conclusion. Can't make the wrong move, or else they'll disect every move you make. "That's not like you". "Oh, that's normal for him, he's the quiet one." A lot of what they wanted me to become was good (and I'm grateful I did become that), but so much of who I was needed to be repressed to fit that image. I recognize that moving out from a situation like this important. But it's hard to create the distance needed, and with the cost of living so high these days, I'm always making excuses for why I haven't left yet. They're not terrible people. My parents are mostly kind and well intentioned. They just don't allow me to grow. Not sure when I'll make the move out. The world is so big and unpredictable, and I don't even know who I am or what I want in life. Even if I move out, I have no idea where to, and how to keep myself from self isolating. That's just all I know and it's emotionally crippling to branch out. Anyway, this was a really well put together video. I felt like your comment resonated with me, at least a little.
I didn’t start healing and paving the true way for myself until I was 31. I’m 33 now, happily married and loving myself more than I ever have before. I hope everyone becomes more genuine within themselves, ☮️&🖤 y’all.
Not always though. Our own traumas fears and limitations Come up In parenting. That doesn’t mean you’re a narcissist. Our limitations show up in how we talk and what we do even when we love the crap out of our kid and want to give them everything but can’t for whatever reason.
My (adoptive) father was a liar and a gaslighter; his wife was repressed and stuck in the past. My experience maight not be exactly the same as Daniel's, chronologically, but there is much that matches. And thanks for this personal view of a lived experience--well done! @ep7154 has given me a possible description for Dad--I'm thinking about it
We are all narcissists to a degree, when it becomes a disorder is a different thing. Narcissists are focused on their own image to the world, tell half stories to be the hero or play the victim, gaslight to make you question reality etc.
I could relate 100% to what was just discussed. I had a very similar experience and for self-preservation, I have mastered numbing myself & distancing too far to be reached by anything unpleasant. Numbing myself works every single time. I became emotionally indestructible. I am a product of my past and I have learned my lesson too well. My father once said to me that I was sick and I responded that I have learned from the best.
Yes it is .. and the people that was in your life Before you Lost the ONLY PERSON YOU EVER LOVED .. SOMEHOW EXPECT you to BE THE SAME PERSON you WERE before YOUR LIFE was RIPPED FROM YOUR CHEST..
14:16 hiding my tears as I listen in the car with my family. Never has someone explained the EXACT process I’m going through as PERFECTLY as this. Im currently not out, but I’m striving for that independence right now! Where I’ll finally be able to complete my metamorphosis haha 🦋 Thank you so much, I don’t feel AS lost now!!
The thing is, you are not lost but found. Right now. Inside yourself; you are not lost ... just a little hidden, just a little covered in veils ... the thing is, to grow from the inside out without trying to demonstrate it outwardly ... because that just invites more of the same and causes injury. It's a quiet revolution, inner building, growing, strengthening ... while at the same time, tuning out their voices until all you can hear is how lost 'they' are. You are coming Home to yourself and leaving the world of the unreal. After all, we came here to live and to Be, not to become dead in life. This is the greatest lesson of all. Inside out, back to front, upside down ... the twisted world of the un-living; the illusion. You are Becoming; Real(ised). Keep going, and try not to allow your gaze to be captured in the past beyond the needed examination that peels you away from it. Then, Release, Forgive, Let Go and Move On; Move ON; Keep going. Pay attention to your dreams because they will help you to see the Truth in all its nakedness; where everything is symbolic and retold in stories, themes, analogies, metaphor, symbol. Nuanced. When what is in the unconscious is made conscious, then you liberate yourself from the world of illusion; everything that is NOT you. I hope this helps.
I’m 3 minutes in and he’s described what took me 19 years to realise about how I deal with confrontation and why. He said it exactly to a T, unbelievable.
Such an underrated channel. I love this idea of bringing the old authentic me again. I have to start this process. I’ve been suppressed from speaking my mind, expressing my emotions, acting out how I feel from a very very young age and it was done through being beat with a shoe, slapped in the face, yelled at in the most terrifying way I could understand at a young age. I was punished severely for things I was way to young to understand and for things that were not my fault. I was exploited as a young worker, embarrassed, forced and told what to do and always got shit in return for trying my best. As much as I hate to say this I wish my dad was dead.
Believe me, I had been traumatized not only in my home as a child, but by authorities meant to protect you, and in marriages and jobs. Only thing that has made me have peace, joy and healing in my life is that I have forgiven all those who’ve hurt me or violated me in some way. The reason forgiveness is so powerful is that I am the one who’s now free not them because unforgiveness is a bitter lock and chain that kept ME bitter and kept ME locked to my abusers. I am now the one who is free to live a happy and healthy life, not them because they still carry within themselves all the bitterness and wickedness. Forgiveness has EVERYTHING to do with you! Forgiving others is a gift you give to yourself…like the golden key that sets YOU free. 🗝
Crushing violations...absolutely changes a person... i wish mine never happened..i think I would not be so “on guard” all the time like I am now...that way of being will never leave me...I know this now.
Do you know Tony Robbins? If not read a book of him or watch a seminar, it helps that he sees even the worst stuff in your life from its good side. Like the being "on guard" is something that can be useful. Im not saying its not bad what happened but you have to move on an get happy by noticing the good things hidden between and behind all the bad things. You are able to make a change in your life.
Peter Pan oh i have made changes and moved on and actually am doing well and am over all happy...i am still always on guard and as i say that will never leave.the crushing violations took away a deep sense of “you don’t have to be afraid” in some ways that is good because i am not as gullible in other ways as i know i will always on guard, not as spontaneous in living life
Our pain helps us keep a healthy distance from people we really shouldn’t be around. Our pain can remind us it is wise not to be vulnerable with people who haven’t earned our trust.
Thanks so much! I suffer from mental health issues for 20 years now and just came to realise it’s from the people around me. From how my family treated and still treats me. Decided to limit contact to a minimum. Feels very lonely but better
I had to go no contact with my toxic family. I've grieved all of the abuse and now I'm starting to feel better than I've ever felt in my entire life! I'm finding my voice and getting good at boundaries.
Daniel, you have beautifully summarized what millions around the world have gone through and are causing similar feelings in their children unknowingly.
Oh Daniel...this is what I endured for over 50 years. It took my life. It took everything. It was the pain I could not speak about, the deep anguish, the deep fear, this discombobulation, this fracturing of my psyche and my health. I still have so much grief and anger. I was their only child and as the decades went on, I fell out of love with them. Thank you for your message. I send you prayers for continued healing and blessings for your healing of others. Om shanthi.
Lifelong trauma/ depression happened to me from the age of 5, when my very loving dad died. I developed an eating disorder. Also an avoidant personality disorder, which I recently identified, and explained a lot of my life. Im 72 & always had anxiety/ depression. Mom was physically & emotionally abusive. Said she was sorry she brought my siblings and I " into this world". Her mother was abusive to her. At age of 10, after a beating, I told my mother that I was never having children. She laughed. I never did. I was as serious at 10 as I am now. One therapist told me I didnt have a self. One word in a support group healed me. Boundaries. (My brother- the Golden child, is a narcisist & my sister never " grew", has tantrums in stores, restaurants,; in public. At 71 ) I identified w this amazing video. Thank you.
I was born with an avoidant, shameful, insecure personality. My oldest sister--thru our mom--told me "I didn't look good & should eat less" when I was 14(!) yrs old. I felt rejected, became anorexic, then felt profound shame when I gained the wt back. Mom did the best she could, but was no match for a narc controlling oldest child. I left home at 18, but moved back at 55 to care for parents . . .I'm now brought to tears or rage on a wkly basis due to my sister's evil behaviors. Videos like this, stories from others, faith, & trusted friends help me thru.
A lot of your story sound like mine. I was restrained and had knives thrown at my feet when I was 8 I know it’s not the only thing but I feel that’s a big trauma my mom was verbally and physically abusive I learned lying and telling her what she wanted to hear would by me some time before the inevitable. So I’ve always had events in my life where my saying no was ignored. The idea of being restrained is my nightmare as are people and animals who are out of control around me. I think I’m ADHD possibly autistic I’m so sensitive that it’s all been very traumatic I have binge eating disorder because I was forced to be around the people who abused me and if I was eating at these holiday parties I didn’t have to interact so you can imagine the foods I’m most likely to binge on. I never had kids either I never really was able to bond and form relationships because I have such a hard time trusting. I’m glad the cycle stopped with me. I am disabled mentally and physically so that’s made me rely on my biggest abuser my mom for a lot of things. I can’t even get past my own anxiety to be productive and the reason my mom is abusive to me she says is my fault. I’ve been doing a lot of grieving and I’m standing up for myself and of course my mom hates that. I’m not ok with it’s how I’ve been treated and somehow I’m expected to stay a whole le and capable person and I’m not and I’m very angry about that. My mom was the scapegoat in her family between her siblings and her mother and can’t fathom that the same treatment she got doesn’t motivate me to tackle my problems. This is why I think I have ADHD because there’s so much clutter in there that I can’t quiet down enough to not get distracted from trying to declutter my living space. I’m literally frozen. The abuse is killing me I have a lot of health problems
I spent over four decades dealing with this from our mother, who was the most difficult narcissist I've ever encountered. She alienated at least four of the six of us and made two into her "flying monkeys": she cajoled one of them to become a narcissist in her own image. One day he walked up to me and literally blurted, out of the blue, "My penis is bigger than yours!" Yes, that's how ridiculous it became. The more we tried to win her approval, the more she maneuvered to crush us. When we were small children, she'd scream at us, "I love you, but I don't like you!" and "I wish you were never born!" and "I wish you were dead and in Hell!" She even attempted suicide in front of us. Then there was the physical abuse. All of this was due to the guilt she bore for having a child out of wedlock, and for marrying our dad, who failed to be the perfect knight in shining armor she expected him to be. When my teachers praised me for being a great student, she always acted bewildered. When I won art and academic scholarships to college, she fought Dad on providing moral/financial support. When I set legal precedents in my state's environmental programs, she insisted I didn't know what I was doing. When I broke down the brick walls in her genealogy research, she told her friends that I was "...a weirdo who likes to hang out in cemeteries". When the prosecutor praised me for developing the successful argument to charge, convict and sentence my dad's killer, Mom repeated to a big crowd of friends and family that my sentiments didn't matter, that I didn't represent the family (I had represented the family for over two years getting the case into court). I finally realized there was no way to ever win her approval, so I finally remanded her to _non_compos_mentis_, and left it wholly up to her to call, visit, write, be a mother. She never did, but she did run around telling her friends that I'd abandoned her. She created an absurd mess of her family, which is now pulverized into many pieces, never to be whole -- just the way she wanted it.
@@darlenenistor6759 I have my own problems. It's hard to trust/love anybody, and I lash out very quickly. Thankfully, all of us repented and got into church when I was a teen. That didn't stop Mom from eventually alienating us from church, but we younger kids knew there was a better path. I prayed that, if I ever got married, my wife would be my mother's antithesis, and He delivered. She's put up with a lot of grief and frustration, and I'm so thankful for her nurturing, love, kindness.
My story is so similar to everything you said. All through out my childhood, I could feel something was wrong but it was this vague unknown hard to reach feeling. I didn't know why or how I felt wrong, I just knew I did. I could tell that other people had something I didn't. This kind of spark that brought them life. It took me until my early 20's to start to heal and truly see just how f'ed up the things my parents did to me. After college, when my trauma had isolated me from everyone I knew, I was basically by myself for the next couple years. I can say now, at 30, that I feel like my real self. Grieving was hard, I honestly don't know how I got thru it but I'm still here, stronger than I've ever been and it feels amazing.
Do yo mind sharing how did you start healing? I feel very identify with your story... Something is off and I never knew why. I also have blank periods of my early childhood and teens that I don't really understand why I don't remember... Maybe is something there but how could I start if I can't even remember clearly in the first place?
@@bilyfull The two biggest things were group therapy with a really good, compassionate therapist and finding the right medications. I know people like to hate on anti depressants but it was a huge change when i found ones that worked for me.
@@dmackler58I’m replying here of hopes you’d read this instead of a regular comment if that makes sense. This was the best video I’ve watched on RU-vid and it’s given me a blueprint on how to know where I am in my grieving process and what ways it can go. Thank you Daniel
Never seen anyone be so on point. It doesn't fix anything for me, but it gives me sense of peace knowing I'm not making things up for being the way I am. Great video
My dude, yes! Great message. I spent over a year allowing myself to grieve any and everything, and underneath I've actually started to find authenticity that isn't built on trauma energy.
Thank you Daniel! As a 67 year old woman I say yes to the healing power of grief - layer by layer. year by year. Your real self is lovely and feisty, and you've found your voice - nice, a good inspiration for us all.
This video got recomended to me over 4 times and i always ignored, when i watched it out of curiosity and insistence i realize that it was meant for me, it's what I'm actually struggling with right now