The Two Trees of Valinor and the White Tree of Gondor | Tolkien Explained

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In honor of the new image released by Amazon's Lord of the Rings on Prime, we are covering The Two Trees of Valinor and how they directly connect to the White Trees of Gondor. We trace the line of the trees - from Laurelin and Telperion, to Galathilion in Tirion, to Nimloth of Numenor, to the White Tree of Gondor.
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Gandalf shows Aragorn a Sapling of the White Tree
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@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

What do you think is the story behind the image released by Amazon? Is it a prologue? Think we will see the destruction of the Two Trees?

@chadalbaugh5337 3 года назад

Prologue, similar the fellowship. Will show some backstory on it

@jamiegregg9211 3 года назад

I think it could be the first plot line for season one

@principledpsychopath8461 3 года назад

I would love it if we could get one of the main characters say the famous poem . Tall ships and tall kings Three times three What brought they from the fondered lands Over the flowing sea Seven stars and seven stones and one white tree.

@annaanisa7388 3 года назад

DEF a prologue for sure!!! We could end up seeing glimpses of some first age events occasionally scattered throughout the series. It could aid in further explaining the story line whenever the need arises.

@grokeffer6226 3 года назад

I'd guess that it's a prologue, giving a little background to the story that follows.

@tylerg842 3 года назад

Even the trees have confusing names and lineage, Tolkien’s details are unparalleled

@GrumpyGrobbyGamer 3 года назад

If you’ll forgive the pun, the Professor loved to sow the seeds of confusion.

@anothermouth7077 3 года назад

I quite convinced that if some future civilization finds this books long after we are gone, they possibly can believe it was truly a real world

@GeneralMiller92FIN 3 года назад

@@anothermouth7077 Well for some of the readers Tolkien's books already are as holy than the Bible. In next 2000 years when we live in post-apocalyptic world, maybe some group of future geeks will create religion out of it.

@BJETNT 3 года назад

Yeah there's one of the kids that does a channel on a lot of it I want to say men of the West that guy is unbelievable on his detail I've never even heard him stutter on name and all the stuff! I stutter on my own name sometimes in the morning. The kids unbelievable and very good at this stuff He missed his calling but I hope he's making good money

@phuocnguyenngoc7821 3 года назад

Couldn't agree with you more. Till now, no fantasy work could overshadow Tolkien's legacy.

@renmanjares5314 3 года назад

Talk about Isildur's dedication and perseverance saving the tree.

@MoPaTography 3 года назад

I like how this shines a different light to his character, from just LOTR Isildur (under the influence of the ring) comes off rather dislikeable, but hearing how much he risked for the tree gives him much more depth than I originally thought.

@deadeye4047 3 года назад

@@MoPaTography That's the Power of The Ring, I just now realized it because of this video.

@marionbaggins 3 года назад

He just wants to save, The White Tree!!! 😂

@michaelfisher7170 3 года назад

And not once but twice, carrying a sapling from doomed Numenor and another from fallen Minas Ithil. He obviously conidered the tree an important heirloom or symbol for his people.

@KertaDrake 2 года назад

"Why bother with winning a war when I have all I need right here. Now leave me while I stare at this sapling until dusk!"

@Felsennest 3 года назад

Never has a tree's genealogy been so epic, ancient and majestic.

@WhoIsCalli Год назад

Agreed

@opplayer375 3 года назад

Talk about isuldurs dedication to get the sapling before his city was taken by evil forces

@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

I'm hoping we get to see the heroic side of Isildur in the new show. It will make his failure to destroy the One Ring all the more tragic!

@luudest 3 года назад

„Today on Nerd Of The Rings“ One of my favorite RU-vid sentences!

@Durin_Son 2 года назад

Your dedication to Tolkien's lore is like that of Isildur's desire to preserve the line of the trees. I'm a newer follower of your channel and admire all the work you put into your videos.

@DevinQuigleyArt 2 года назад

Judging from this video, it's REALLY hard to have a nice tree in Middle Earth without some random Dark Lord wanting to cut it down.

@Starbat88 3 года назад

I just hope this Amazon series does justice to the Tolkien legacy.

@tw0crows74 2 года назад

A lot of us had this same feeling years before the movies, hearing Sean Connery might be Gandalf was worrying to say the least

@Comet_373 2 года назад

@@tw0crows74 I mean I don't have hope they randomly made dark elves in the series made galadriel into a warrior and she falls for a man instead of celeborn who just got deleted from existence 🤦 and already a bunch of timelines were changed some characters aged up some events happening yrs later or before 🤦🤦

@theelectricprince8231 2 года назад

They looked amazing in the second trailer 😍

@Ale-dd3ek Год назад

This comment aged like milk

@odilusporce8814 Год назад

I have bad news for you bud...

@115redhair 2 года назад

I would've never expected to feel so moved by the story of the Two Trees and The White Trees 🥺

@NerdoftheRings 2 года назад

Tolkien would be proud of your appreciation for trees. 😊

@115redhair 2 года назад

@@NerdoftheRings thanks so much for replying, cheers from Dublin, Ireland. Keep it up with the content, it's fascinating

@BannenAngelos 3 года назад

I love how Ungoliant the Spider, also called the Devourer, was capable of consuming both darkness and light itself. She is, to this day, one of my favorite beings of Tolkien's inventions.

@ForbiddenFollyFollower 3 года назад

They're both light one is just silver and one is gold.

@BannenAngelos 3 года назад

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower I think there was a slight misunderstanding here, let me correct it right quick. The part of my comment about light and dark was reference to the part of the Silmarillion where Ungoliant is introduced. It said that she grew to be so ravenous that she could consume both light and darkness itself. I wasn't referencing the two trees when I said that.

@hiroprotagonitis Год назад

Then she ate herself lmaooo

@almonious520 3 года назад

Great video! We just had 2 trees placed in the backyard of our new house. I’m sure you can guess their names.

@kevinwantstoshred 3 года назад

Otho and Lobelia?

@mrmittenns5728 3 года назад

Bonnie and Clyde?

@chrisoliver3642 3 года назад

Harold and Maude?

@modusbee9092 3 года назад

Curious... What species of tree did you plant?

@wangwang2211 3 года назад

Tom and Jerry?

@ethanmietzner5218 Год назад

This is what I love about Tolkien. I truly feel immersed in a world that somewhere in this universe exists but is yet to be discovered. The level of detail and involvement in this world is unparalleled. I'm currently reading the Silmarillion and just read the chapter about the white tree. I just can't get enough of all of this lore.

@cashmere3575 3 года назад

So sad that Isildur valiantly rebelled against evil & the cult of Melkor... only to succumb to the darkness of the one ring

@prasunpokhrel8463 2 года назад

no one could have have thrown the ring into the fire not aragorn not sam or elrond thats the entire point of lord of the rings it had to be accidental

@satana8157 Год назад

He never succumbed to the darkness of the one ring. That is something Peter Jackson popularized. Isildur was on his way to give the ring away to Arnor when he died.

@RbkARI Год назад

@bastiat No one's assuming anything, Tolkien said that himself.

@patrickc9726 3 года назад

Don't forget the Party Tree and its importance!

@lasandumaduranga7463 3 года назад

Absolutely gem of a tree

@fuferito 3 года назад

Ah, the lamented Party Tree. And, then Sam planted a _mallorn_ tree to grow where the Party Tree had been ripped down; the only mallorn growing outside Lorien.

@leonardofaber5823 3 года назад

No disrespect to life, but it was just a tree

@hazbojangles2681 3 года назад

@@leonardofaber5823 you sound like a Sackville-Baggins

@leonardofaber5823 3 года назад

@@hazbojangles2681 what I meant with my previous comment is that the Party Tree had no importance in the lore. It was not descandant of a great tree like the ones on the video, and no great moment of Middle-earth' history took place there. It was just a tree that was cut down by Saruman and then replaced by the mallorn. To the hobbits it was big deal for they valued it like they valued everything natural that came from the earth. But to the myths? As I said, just a tree

@angrypotato_fz 2 года назад

Thank you for this video and for focusing on the tress without digressions :) I never understood nor appreciated enough the scen of Aragorn finding the sapling in the mountains. Now I see how important it was.

@rikweeds2306 2 года назад

The white tree blooming the aaragon found and planted in the white city. Brings a tear to my eye everytime

@mstrhighway Год назад

I know it’s a lot to ask but it would be astronomically rad if you could do a full Silmarillion timeline, even if you used old footage and cut it together in sequential order. Your channel rules them all btw, huge fan 🖤

@freddaniel5099 3 года назад

One of my favorite vids on this channel. Great story that brings many themes of ME together in a coherent way.

@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

I love when there are connections from ancient history to the Third Age/LOTR story. So cool.

@KeppyKep 3 года назад

"As with most things, the trees would be ruined by a Dark Lord." Oof. Damn you, Dark Lords! This is why we can't have nice things!

@ZuluZuluingtonthefirst 3 года назад

"Those trees looking mighty delicious" some giant spider

@alexiachimciuc3199 8 месяцев назад

So she was a vegetarian? 😂

@eimanb3887 3 года назад

I just realised that you uploaded 4 minutes ago and it wasn't from my notifications, it was from your channel page! I was just rewatching part one of Morgoth's origin, and I realised this was here. Keep up the amazing work! The depth in this world is unparalleled!

@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

Thanks so much! So glad you are loving the channel!!

@eimanb3887 3 года назад

@@NerdoftheRings definitely! Your videos are super entertaining, and they're always so well put together. Your channel is such a good way to learn about middle earth, I've recently got back into it and have been so addicted!

@thegungadfly8930 3 года назад

Really, you are turning out such lucid and beautiful content. It will be a pleasure to see your reviews of “the second age” show by Amazon.

@shehansenanayaka3046 Год назад

Nerd of the rings is one of the best channels of RU-vid. Brilliant video. We know it takes a lot of time and dedication towards these videos. Love from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.

@gamerostrich5358 3 года назад

obsessed with these videos, can't wait for the amazon series.

@gamerostrich5358 2 года назад

@Kristopher Prime ok negative Nancy..

@Kheni11 3 года назад

Oh wow, this was so very well put together! You're just developing more and more with everything, thank you. Keep up the good work!

@joeybox0rox649 3 года назад

I got excited when I saw you just uploaded this subject!👍👍

@guilherme5094 3 года назад

As for the series from Amazon, it's not the look I'm worried about, I'm sure they have the best resources to ensure a spectacular look, but everything else, something tells me it's all going to be a horror show. And It's not a matter of being pessimistic or hater, but when it comes to entertainment, I've watched a lot of good franchises die or be warped beyond comprehension, we live in dark times without a doubt.

@michaelfisher7170 3 года назад

I feel the same. I keep hoping that at some point sanity might prevail...but..we'll just have to see.

@ianberlin3214 3 года назад

There is so much good in the world of Tolkien and hopefully they dive deep into it without the baggage of our current society, but it seems like most stories today can't just be good stories.

@jessedeck131 3 года назад

With The Hobbit being this bad, of course we can presume this show will be dreadful!

@craiggallagher4461 3 года назад

Yep I’ve already seen multiple signs that the series is going to hijack this amazing lore to push a modern day political agenda. Like you said, it will no doubt look amazing but I think the story and characters are going to suffer majorly at the hands of the current ideological culture war.

@ForbiddenFollyFollower 3 года назад

What can man do against such reckless hate?

@treyden 3 года назад

never tire of hearing these stories

@Jumpton Год назад

"Who shall say how it comes here in the appointed hour?" *cut to Gandalf 7 years earlier with a shovel and a seed* "This is going to be a sick reveal."

@Strutsbandage 3 года назад

Haven't seen your videos in a while, been a stressful time. I'm so glad this is the video I start with though, and that I have a couple of weeks worth of videos to watch now

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

Nice post. Welcome back.

@Strutsbandage 3 года назад

@@Enerdhil thank you 🌟

@patrickb4010 3 года назад

It truly makes me happy that Tolkien and I share the same love and appreciation for trees. I too wish I could speak with them.

@thomasschneider9407 3 года назад

Just found your channel and find it fantastic! Thank you for the awesome details and excellent explanations. Look forward to future videos about the show and when it comes out! keep it up!

@sandal_thong8631 2 года назад

The tale of the Ents and Entwives was sad. It's disappointing Quickbeam isn't mentioned travelling to look for them and new trees as his groves were destroyed by Saruman's forces. They say he's young for an Ent, and there's many places the Fellowship went to that may be interesting to him. Not sure why none of the Ents from Fangorn want to visit Lorien and why the Elves of Lorien don't want to visit Fangorn Forest?

@WhoIsCalli Год назад

Never get tired of watching this video. Thanks Matt!

@logansfury 2 года назад

This was a fascinating video of the lineage of the Royal Tree. Your uploads always feature great information and wonderful art.

@craiggallagher4461 3 года назад

Pretty cool video to watch since I just started reading the Silmarillion recently (after having read LOTR and TH/TABA many times over the past 20-30 years) and only just learned about these trees and so far some of the events in the first and second ages that you reference. You do a great job bringing it all together into easily digestible videos while utilising amazing but also relevant artwork. Keep up the awesome work! 👍

@davidwhitney2908 3 года назад

Congrats on 300k man! Awesome video as usual.

@TheAdkiri 3 года назад

Where's that "Maps of Middle Earth: The Third Age" video!? Those have to be my favorite so far, and the complete travels but these are cool too.

@sourisvoleur4854 3 года назад

10:10 That's very pretty. Hats off to the artist.

@tobiaswestenrieder6559 3 года назад

it makes my day everytime i watch a video of yours! could you consider making a video on the high elves and why they are so porwerful?

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

He kind of skipped that part in today's video. The High Elves are more knowledgeable and powerful because they lived in the light of the Two Trees and got taught directly be the Valar.

@tobiaswestenrieder6559 3 года назад

@@Enerdhil thanks

@alasat 3 года назад

Excellent job on this. Very well put together

@phiology1983 3 года назад

So complex. But yet beautiful! Tolkien is a genius!

@redxsage 3 года назад

That was AWESOME! Another well told tale. Thank you.

@simonaxlz Год назад

Imagine actually being in the presence of those tress 🥺🥺🥺

@robinsteeden7466 3 года назад

Great video, like they always are. One comment tho, pretty sure that the two trees on the entrance to Moria, Durin's Gate (aka The Hollin Gate) are two ancient holly trees which were the symbol of the Elven kingdom of Eregion also known as Hollin.

@YadraVoat 3 года назад

That was a lovely presentation!

@chaiwarrior11 3 года назад

Congrats on over 300k subscribers! A bit late, mohon maaf. Thanks for the content, really helps while teaching abroad in Indonesia during this crazy time.

@PipsKay 3 года назад

Thank you so much for That, my the White Tree of Gondor forever bloom in Minas tirith and in our hearts

@ameliawarfield5637 Год назад

Love the video. The two trees of Valinor are beautiful. I wish I could sit between the two trees.

@mikefries7991 3 года назад

Another great presentation. Thank you.

@yourfavoriteshiba7645 3 года назад

Never knew I would love the backstory of a tree.

@SoNoFTheMoSt 3 года назад

I love the story of these trees, thank you for sharing it with us :)

@tonybaker1268 3 года назад

I'm getting a tattoo of the White Tree in a few months.

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

Will it show up? Sorry, bad white guy joke.🤪

@tonybaker1268 3 года назад

@@Enerdhil I actually am getting it all black instead of like white or an outline

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

@@tonybaker1268 That'll be cool too.😁

@Sara.m.t 3 года назад

I hit like before the second second even rolls around - I just know your videos are that good! 🙌🏻✨

@mikelthemafia Год назад

Ah, yes the times when there was still hope for rings of power.... Nice vid tho

@peterwilson6819 3 года назад

These videos are so well done!

@magnificus8581 3 года назад

Awesome video, one of your best!

@garyyym4699 2 года назад

Im glad i found this channel 😩🤟🏻✨

@tonycezar1645 2 года назад

Isildur, The Lord of the Saplings

@evelynjasa8193 2 года назад

I really enjoy all you're Amazing videos. Kudos👏👏👏

@afolsom685 3 года назад

Ah lovely. I needed trees today. Thank you.

@rubenmenkveld8405 3 года назад

I discovered i haven't been subscribed yet. I as ashamed of myself. How can i not subscribe to someone who makes such awesome videos?

@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

Better late than never, my friend! 😄

@rubenmenkveld8405 3 года назад

@@NerdoftheRings but seriously keep it up. These videos are amazing

@lynneglendenning947 Год назад

I am Telperion. Leah blessed the two trees. Will added the White Tree of Gondor, which I thought would make a nice Christmas Tree. My husband is the Balsam Fir.

@kevinraposo348 3 года назад

I love these Gondor related lore videos

@courageousconversations9794 Год назад

Wait a minute, if the silmarils can’t be touched by evil beings how did ungoliant manage to suck the life out of the two trees? Did Feanor make the silmarils more pure and holy than their source was?

@Darkstar-se6wc Год назад

One of the Valar blessed the silmarils, as I recall, and added that.

@greyworld6242 3 года назад

Trees. Beautiful trees.

@jordanreynolds5494 3 года назад

I've watched and listened to every video and now feel the urge to comment to let you know this was a gooden!!! Thanks for all the content I'm soo hooked haha

@YawnWoofDog 3 года назад

Boromir wouldve loved it.

@jamiegregg9211 3 года назад

awesome vid Matt enjoyed it

@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

Thanks 👍

@astraloutlaw6549 Год назад

For some time, I pondered about the reasons why the race of men couldn't go to the Undying Lands. Perhaps you did a video on it, but I can't find it apparently, other than this one and about the Valar. I remember being on a video where another RU-vidr talked extensively on that. In his video, he claimed the men who ever lived in the Undying Lands would grow weary, and if they ever succeeded in attaining Immortality, the spirit within man will be in utter conflict with his body as time passes, as if he's no longer himself. He also mentioned another key difference for the reason why elves were immortal and men were not, and it has to do with their spirits. Given what I learned, elven spirits who leave their bodies are destined to be bound to the world of Arda, while the spirits of men could no longer be bound to the confines of middle-earth. This is why elves are immortal, for their bodies must remain strong until the end. Perhaps you have a different take on this. If so, I would like to know.

@noahhastings6145 2 года назад

Amazon is making a Lord of the Rings series? Hope is -kindled- extinguished

@shehryardawud9984 3 года назад

Isildur aka "the gardener"

@DrewsterRooster37 2 года назад

I just love how the promotional images for the rings of power includes the two trees which died long before the first age, while the rings of power is an alternate reality of the second age. (Alternate cause it's gonna suck)

@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective Год назад

It was great imo

@franckguillemot5228 3 года назад

really cool video thx

@lucmazi2265 3 года назад

That was beautiful

@VoiceoftheRings 3 года назад

Awesome job with this video!!!

@vainor797 3 года назад

I hope Amazon doesn’t disappoint

@NerdoftheRings 3 года назад

The new image was definitely a positive development. The look is spot-on, imo.

@shaneward7836 3 года назад

@Finn MacCool Lol. Sad and funny to see people like you who never going to see or expect something good from anything. At least wait until it's released to post your negative feedback.

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

@@NerdoftheRings We have to see what they do before and after this screenshot. They don't want to reveal too much in the series if they are pressed for time.

@guilherme5094 3 года назад

@@shaneward7836 As for the series from Amazon, it's not the look I'm worried about, I'm sure they have the best resources to ensure a spectacular look, but everything else, something tells me it's all going to be a horror show. And It's not a matter of being pessimistic or hater, but when it comes to entertainment, I've watched a lot of good franchises die or be warped beyond comprehension, we live in dark times without a doubt.

@bmabs35 3 года назад

@Finn MacCool The books are still going to be around for goodness sake. One TV series regardless of how it turns out isn't going to affect anything.

@banishedheir9940 2 года назад

Thanks for this

@sebastianmatt7707 3 года назад

Thanks for another great video!

@Luke-kj1rj 3 года назад

They need to realise the magnitude of what they're undertaking over at amazon, the chances of them absolutely butchering it vastly outweigh a lightning in a bottle situation like Jacksons trilogy

@ironblue4593 3 года назад

Sauron really hates white trees, interesting video to watch

@Enerdhil 3 года назад

But you won't hear anyone at Amazon Prime calling him racist.

@steveford8999 3 года назад

THAT was well done. Well done, indeed.

@jimantonino4394 2 года назад

Very well done. Superb.

@annaroselarsen4218 3 года назад

So excited !

@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 2 года назад

Amazing video

@mathisdenis 3 года назад

Wow ! What a great video. I learned so much about those two trees 😮 It will be fun to have a complete history of Orthanc too :o like the trees 😁

@fluffynupking7340 Год назад

how ignorant we were about TROP back then

@cupkelpie4656 3 года назад

That was a beautiful episode

@xXLunatikxXlul 2 года назад

The two trees of Valinor seem to have inspired the two golden trees in Elden Ring.

@muhammadmudassarbilal7986 3 года назад

Long awaited video.

@Iluvantir 2 года назад

And in the fullness of time, the three Silmarils will be recovered: one from the Sky, held by Earendil; one from the Seas, lost for now; and one that was flung into magma of the Earth... that may well have been taken, through long chambers unknown, to be buried under a lonely mountain... to have been dug out by Durin's Folk - The Arkenstone. (This last is just my feeling, an idea only). And once all three are recovered: they shall be broken open to release their captured light; and the Two Trees, still standing dead in Valinor, will be brought to life. The Mountains of Valinor shall be lowered, the Sun and the Moon will be no more, and the Light of the Age before Ages shall be seen over all Arda. All this after the final fall of Morgoth, at the Last Battle...

@IdwarfRedwoods 2 года назад

Good job 👍

@pookievision 3 года назад

Epic! I love the trees!! Is there enuf info to do content on the lamps? I love that era...also how time actually works bout then...maybe timelines ect wud be awsome!! 🤟

@LetBBB6345789 2 года назад

Exchanging the lights of first two lamps and then two trees against the whole moon and sun does not sound like a bad deal, especially for those lands that were on the other side of the Earth.