The Ugly Carnival - WWII's Most BRUTAL Torture Method? 

The usual, because she had money

She had friends in high places, like Winston Churchill.

ROHADÉK GAZDAGOK.

@@Dianikes TRUE.

Money

twice we saved France from Germany... I say let's not a third time.

50? The war ended 79 years ago now. I'd go back to school if I were you and brush up on your arithmetic!

@@samrodian919 wow arent you good I was rounding idiot

The men largely did not resist in the north; in fact there were reports of some of them sabotaging our invasion as it was breaking up all their black markets. The women naturally went for the germans who had money and could make their life easier.

The feeling of "hatred" is understandable, yes of course. These actions are in no way understandable, honorable or justified. They are indeed, reprehensible.

@@daveh322 Traitors have had much worse fates in history. They got off easy.

The french didn't support themselves. Not much of an army. Collaboration was rife. No more dinghies thank you. We're full

You sure do make a lot of excuses for treason. Lots of people passed away staying loyal too.

VERY HORROR TÖRTÉNET.

Not if your a woman. It is easy to understand that females of most higher forms of life have an extremely strong instincts to protect their children. They did what they needed to do to protect their sons and daughters. Family first, than countries. After the Germans were gone, the French were still understandably consumed with angst. So they turned against themselves. History keeps repeating itself. This activity continued in Ukraine for more than 75 years, and is a huge reason for the current war.

Yes! (Otherwise, the cycle just continues...)

By that logic, no one should have opposed Hitler, only send hugs and kisses till he surrenders. Um, that ain’t gonna work.

@@rmpj13 I think you're conflating darkness with opposition; light with passivity. (I still think Joe's point holds.)

@@philfoster8789 , more along the lines of love and hate. I don’t mind pacifists and I believe in love thy neighbor, but evil must be punished.

@@rmpj13 Agreed. But this means that I, too, deserve punishment: for, in the eyes of God, my heart is desperately wicked. (Jeremiah 17:9.) No - I am no better than any murderer.

I disagree!

Sometimes it does though

Tired saying???? It still makes sense to me!! lol

There is also a saying that, saying some shaven beaten women had it as hard as the people in the concentrationcamps, is either stupid or immoral.

Was it wrong though to treat traitors like that? Seems that way now, but at the time it was understandable.

These were Vichy women. That was the point. They were collaborators.

Quisling was Norwegian

The British army ran away from the advancing German army at Dunkirk and abandoned France.

​@redskyz483 Not only the British, the French ran too. Look up the figures for how many French were taken away from Dunkirk.

@@user-kq8if3ud5e Yes and they formed the free french army lead by De Gaulle. Had the British army stayed and fought instead of running away it may have been different .When the British army ran what choice did the French army.

My daddy was a paratrooper with the 82 nd 504 the PIR. He told us boy's growing up that the German soldiers were good men. Although he had to fight them he respected them. That was about all I remember him telling me. My older brothers told me more of what he told them. I served but I was the only one that didn't go to Vietnam. Five boys all together, they all came home.

That's an illogical assumption - that many or most (let alone all) women who had relations with ze Germans gave others away and contributed to their deaths. Either way, it's perfectly natural, genetically, for women to go to the victorious men, and finding love in a nasty war is a good thing for many, even for a mashed and downtrodden society, where good people on both sides were indoctrinated, coerced and forced into armies they would never otherwise have gone near. People don't queue up to join military campaigns unless their countries are attacked, they're indoctrinated, scared, or they live in poverty (like so many of the British who fought for Empire, I might add).

Shame on those who hid behind "collaborators" after the war to cover their own failures before or during the war. Shame on you France.

Seems you were watching he wrong video.

What a pile of B.S

Netherlands ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cWmosOerH1Y.html

Germany ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6G5lQhEG964.html

@@JEANAIMARE-kc1vd: So are you! After you are probably French and biased.

Relax.

Shallow.

They chose to lay down with evil! Evil that was destroying their nation and their own countrymen! Terrible!

The picked the evil side.

Yeah, the Ladybird book 'Haircutting for Beginners'.

@@gurglejug627 😁

When you say 'lots' it needs quantifying. There were literally many thousands of collaborators but I suspect only a few hundred were informers for the Allies. But it is worthwhile mentioning as some of those brave undercover agents were punished unfairly.

@@MartinKillips unfortunately I’m not privy to the specifics and I don’t think those sorts of Secret details will be available until 2039-2045 as they were sealed documents. I understand that there were more French citizens who were collaborating and were more than Happy with the German conquest of France ( They were doing extremely well under German occupation ). My Grandfather was in the Airborne Division during World War Two and he mentioned to my father that many of the French people were not impressed with being liberated from the German yoke ( more French people were more sympathetic to the Germans than the Allies) 🤷‍♂️ you can kinda understand why in a way,they had rebuilt after being conquered by the Germans and the British RAF decimated many of their Towns and Cities that were along the invasion route but at the same time when you think about some of the atrocities that happened in France to the French people by the Germans,you’d think they would have been a bit more happier with being liberated 🤷‍♂️. Where I live at the moment isn’t that far away from one of the Airfields where the Agents would fly from ( Tempsford ) and we know that many of those agents were caught and tortured terribly. I actually grew up in Sawston which is a stone throw away from Duxford and you can imagine the History from the area ( My Mum was one of the families who adopted a Yank to help them acclimatise to the English way of life ). In Sawston we had a few Polish pilots who settled there and even a ex German POW,we also had lots of older people who were eventually in old folks homes and had some pretty amazing experiences and stories to tell about WW2,Navy,merchant marine,Army etc

In those days, long hair was considered a woman's crowning glory. To have the head shaved was considered shameful.

whats that? .... Rubber

French men were treated for shrapnel wounds to the arse.

The French men were either dead or sent to prison camps in Germany. Only old men were left behind.

Netherlands ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cWmosOerH1Y.html

Germany ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6G5lQhEG964.html

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dsvA0UkdRuw.html

That makes no sense. Forced to house them doesn't mean screwing them.

Gee the poor women got their haircut. What do you think they did to the men that were traitors? Oh well they gave them a nice coffee and a croissant right. Make no mistake The men took the dirt nap.

TRUE.VERY SAD - ,

@@susangirardi3655 oh and the men that collaborated weren't victimized they were just shot.

hopefully they repented

If a compromise you make in war is to sleep with and aid the enemy, don't be surprised when this happens.

Major piece left out in this story is the men were shot. But I guess that kind of screws up the sympathy argument about having your haircut doesn't it? Crack open a book.

Yeah I guess you're right We shouldn't have fought the Germans. After all just like Iraq they didn't attack us.

@@bigjake2061 we must get into the war only to defend the nation and fight for independence

Make love not war….But you better always be ready for both

Been a while since you've been to Walmart?

You’ve obviously never had a crop with manual hand clippers. Even done gently it can be fecking painful. When it’s not done with care but anger it must have been agony.

@@garysmith3173: No never had that. Now I know.

@@garysmith3173 I actually did once. I used an old pair of Soviet clippers to crop off all my hair. Was not a bad experience, except your hand gets tired.

not pain full as tar and feathering as done in northern island

You might inform yourself better. It's a lot of history to absorb though, I would recommend the last thousand years of Europe. In there you'll find that these punishments were often executed by government authority. My question for you is what would you do to someone who sold out to your enemy, the enemy that took your home, your family, your future. Are You just going to turn the other cheek, let them live next door to you?

@@bigjake2061 What? like what most of the British population are doing right now? Do the right thing and vote Reform on 4 July

@@Thenogomogo-zo3un It's wonderful that you see everything so simple. It's always encouraging to see a young bright mind emerge.

@@bigjake2061 So you were there were you?

@@Thenogomogo-zo3un That's his intelligent as me responding with and you were? Oh so you just read a little bit about it too huh? Here's a counter question: You been to war? You seen your bloody buddy next to you? These women were traitors to france, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark. if you were a man at this time and guilty of collaboration You met with a bullet. And yes the treatment of these French women is similar to the treatment that was met out across other countries in Europe, specifically the ones I've mentioned here. I suppose though you'll want to look through the lens of history from your perspective today, Very high school of you.

Women will sleep with the same guy who murdered her own husband in a war with no guilt.

Even today's woman does this, doesn't even care about her own children.

What would one expect when their menfolk surrendered like pansies in 1940.

And that whole “island” thing

Get over it.

@@Griffin_63 No

Wwaagh waaaagh my ancestors were no good at war waaagh waaagh

@@scipioafricanus2212 they were crap colonisers too. Fancy having the most powerful army on the european continent only to surrender like pansies five weeks later.