Lying, grasping, violent territorialists. How bizarre that no cognitive dissonance was triggered by that high-horse behaviour, claiming the moral upperhand... despite them KNOWING they were lying & actually thugging, ready to batter an innocent family. When unhinged & irrational people become angry, best move is to immediately gtfo of there. Don't enter the fray. The danger is massively compounded when it's a whole group of them & feels really like the zombie films because the mind spins from the whole-other-level display of irrationality & bs to justify their psychosis & the clearly impending violence they're jonesing to inflict on you. You don't even have time to fathom the mentalness of it all because sizing the danger & them has to take precedence. Steps: Ascertain the leader. A slow, commanding voice & attitude will diminish the gall of whichever karen is leading the fray. Issue orders. Our erstwhile friend managed two out of three of those so actually, great job. The amygdala triggering adrenaline, our physiological reaction to that is beyond our control. It's main job is to alert us to threat & flood us with hormones that will serve us well in fight or flight, so the fail is actually a win - his body is healthily functioning!
There is no wilderness in Britain, it is one huge managed farm. The farm animals are the humans, they have to compete against one another for handouts of metalic tender discs which they exchange for food and shelter and this is the reason why they don't get along. The slave owners laugh and mock us in their Hollywood movies but the sheeples are blissfully unaware of their plight due to relentless TV brainwashing. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength - 1984
Thanks. I was talking to the fishing lads. It is a club water, can't remember the name - was a big club though with a lot of waters. Day tickets available though 🙂
I agree, they do need to seek help as they may come across somebody who isn't quite as restrained. Thanks for watching and supporting our little channel 🙂🙂
Where I live, there are frequently van and horse box dwellers staying in popular areas for dog walkers. Although there are frequently kids' bikes outside, they keep their site clean and neat. I've never heard of any problems between the locals and these people, who move on in a month or two. The annoying rubbish we see is from local kids, NOT the van people. I understand that I'm talking about permanent van people vs. people just camping, but it really doesn't matter. The people I see are no different than me just parking up and walking my dog, they only stay longer, and there is plenty of parking for all. I just will never understand the sense of entitlement that these bullies think they have to own and dictate to others what they can and cannot do on public property.
It's a point of ours to try and leave a place with it looking better than we arrived. We don't want us or any other van user permanent or just for fun to be associated with leaving litter. We have the little grabbers and pick up in the near area as many others do. Unfortunate but true it seems to be kids and in our area just normal folk visiting. We have massive problems on southport beach with people arriving in cars and carrying everything onto the beach and just leaving it. Bbq's, beer and bottles, all the food wrappers and human waste buried in the dunes. Sometimes after a bank holiday weekend it takes volunteers 10 days to tidy. There are obviously exceptions to every rule and we have groups arrive in caravans and leave everything and more. Vanlifers and users for the most part leave no trace and that includes others rubbish. Rant over - sorry :-) Thanks for watching and commenting and I hope you are giving our summer series a watch :-)
Interesting encounter ... knock on door... always disturbing. We are yet to have this encounter.. You handled it well. thumbs up there mate.. regards Jaunti Van Life South Africa🚐
I met a couple just like that in Perth, Australia. They were as equally intentional to not just intimidate but to also disuade people from being near their property. In my case, I was on a dog beach in front of their units with my dogs swimming. What occurred has to this day left me unsettled when I think about their behaviour. However, I did later hear that they do that to everyone, even young boys going fishing, who left a backpack against a garden wall facing the beach. So all I can guess is that is specifically crafted behaviour to push people away from their exclusive areas.
Unfortunately they are among us :-) a few local folk have commented saying they are like that with everyone and everyone knows them. He apparently has the nick name "Ted Bundy" in local circles. We have been really lucky so far and met mostly nice folk :-) Thanks for watching and commenting
How are you missing anything. She accosted our child and he tried to force himself into our van. The first we saw of him was as he was opening our van door and started with his shouting, knowing full well our child was in the van. After the conversation with her prior to him, when I explained to her Maximus is on the spectrum, has developmental delay and anxiety she knew what she was doing sending him out to further upset our child and act like a thug.
I hear this a lot with people who sleep in vans about bullying and harassment from other people and I agree it’s completely unfair - unless your parked in a very awkward place such as blocking an entrance or a reserved place then what is the problem if people are sleeping in a van - if they’re not causing any trouble then what is the problem ? People having nothing else to do than find an excuse to argue with each other about petty things
A few local people have commented and said they are just not very nice people. Thankfully they are the only nasty folk we have run into on our travels. Thank you for watching and commenting :-)
Not in the 12 years of holidaying in our campervan have we had someone coming knocking or any comments from anyone. We off grid most of the time. I'm sorry you experienced that.The only thing we experienced on our trip to Slovenia last year were people discussing our number plate pointing at it. Since the rules changed on displaying GB we replaced it with a plain 1, well a pheasant on the Shetland isle's ran into us and we didn't get a new 1 with UK on. People were so confused by it.😂
:-) Tbh it is the only thing we have run into in our travels so far, a few people have been on and said they are known locally and are not very nice people. Just one of those things and we have been out and about since with no problems. Thanks for watching and commenting :-) and watch out for them pheasants
Makes me concerned about travelling solo to races or meet ups. All you want to do is break up a journey or enjoy a sunset get a good rest & get off early. These idiots with ‘percieved’ rights both local and visiting need to be a more respectful and considerate to sharing natures beauty spots and we’ll all run along nicely. I don't know how you kept it together???? I'll definitely remember the phrase & coach hubby to reach for ‘please step back from my door and out of my personal space’ rather than a bat 😆! Thanks for sharing. Solid effort for control! You & the Mrs. x
I wouldn't be to worried, we have done 44 nights in the van now since we first went out at the end of summer hols last year and that is the only incident we have had. They are apparently known locally for being not very nice and that's to the local folk. The rest of the time we have met really nice people and found some really lovely spots. We are just planning now for easter :-) All I could think was I don't want to have to fight in front of Maximus, nor did I want to swear or shout if possible. He did swear and put his face right in mine. There was a time in my life when the reaction would have been very different, now though I just keep remembering Maximus ( although he looks 15 ) is 12 with the social and emotional understanding of a 4 year old. When he goes into meltdown he can hit out at us. We try so hard to explain and show that is not the way. You can hear the adrenalin in my voice trying to not move into full on fight, I was scared I would have to when he didn't move back. Thankfully in the end they left and we had to move as Maximus was already upset and would not have settled there. Thank for watching and commenting, hopefully you will enjoy a few more. Take a look at the village in Northumberland from the summer, that one will make you feel better about everything :-)
Our NC500 went without a hitch mixing up campsites, overnight paid stays in the carpark & stealth in laybys when tired and too dark to know the mountainous roads to be safe driving. I love my 10-14 days away exploring and short overnighters but mainly long weekends doing the sports I love and hanging with friends. More people are finding car camping accessibleso hopefully less restrictions and more facilities opening up year around like pubs, car parks & camping spots plus surf beaches, lakeside access, forests and nature reserves. Viva la van life!!!
In nine years of full timing I 've only had one very strange incident with older Frecnhman who decided my vintage motorhome was smoking too much as I waited for the air brakes to prime on a winter morning . After a few choice French swear words he came at me with a hammer , but stopped when I didn't move an inch and pointed my finger straight at him shouting " ARRET " !😂 Luckily the age difference made it more slapstick than anything and he seemed to realise he'd lost the plot . slinking back to his own motorhome and slamming the door . I appreciate your incident was far more serious and you handled it well . Good strong response that made it clear you wouldn't be intimidated . People can be very unpredictable though so moving on after the event was the sensible thing to do !!
Thanks so much for your comment and my imagination conjured up all sorts of images with an old French man with a hammer in his hand and you not moving 😂 an inch. Nowt so strange as folk 🙂
Yep, they pretty much thought they owned the road and didn't want us there. We had to stay calm because our son was getting distressed as he has autism. It was definitely tough going though 🙈
New sub. Great video and what a great Dad you are for the way you dealt with the situation. 100% did the right thing. It's pathetic that some locals think they own the countryside. The best "weapon" so to speak is not giving them ammunition by parking legally, being quiet at late hours and leaving zero rubbish etc. If they still start something then, all is fair game. Handled like a true gent and father. As a wild camper/hiker myself, the ONLY thing I wver worry about (worry as in expect to possibly spoil the trip) is other people. There are delusional people out there who have zero self awareness and 100% self entitlement who have either never been told no, are used to getting away with bullying or simply think they own the 10 square miles around their rural home. I'm a Yorkshireman myself and you handled the situation just as I would. On a lighter note, once I was cycling/camping in rural Somerset and stayed in one remote spot with my bike and tent in one spot for 3 days to ride out some bad weather. Some lovely dear old lady brought me a flask of fresh coffee and home made sandwiches as she had spotted me (walking her dog) on day 2 and realised what I was doing. Gives you hope in society again. Good people need to stick together. All the best - Mark 😊
There are still a lot of nice folk about and the majority of interactions we have had have been positive. You get them everywhere unfortunately and it does seem to be increasing in numbers. Thank you for watching and for the lovely comment :-)
@@traveling-taylors You are very welcome. I haven't done van life before but have cycled/camped countless times. My next trip is heading to fort William to do the cape wrath trail. Cannot wait. I'll be taking a drone too so should get some amazing sunrises etc. Best wishes - Mark
I don't understand what happened first was there an altercation between maximus and that woman with the German shepherd first? Because you are going to stand between them I am Dutch and I could not follow precisely what's really happened what's maximus not behaving or something like that you always hear one side of the story
Hello, Maximus is on the Autistic Spectrum and was non Verbal till he was 7. Even now he has basic communication Skills and doesn't understand complex communication. He like to be outside the Van with his Robot or his iPad (if you watch a few of our videos you will understand) The Woman accosted him and started telling him he shouldn't be there (which was rubbish). He didn't understand and would have replied with what's your name or something along those lines. She then started to get aggressive with him and pulled her German Shepherd back so he went into hi alert (like you see police do) This was when I had to step out and between them. We go away to try and stay out the way of people - yes there are always two sides to every story but in this case she was just a horrible woman and treated a child with additional needs disgracefully. Even after I told her he was on the Spectrum she let her Husband come out and confront us like that. She had no right to approach our child like that. As I said watch some more of our videos and you will see what we are all about and how Maximus communicates. Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
thank you for your explanation, I just found your channel, but my English is not that strong to be able to follow a story line properly, hence my question, I do have subtitles but that is ridiculously translated into Dutch haha. I am happy with your answer, now I can follow you with more and different understanding in upcoming adventures, warm greatings from the Netherlands
When people act like morons then they SHOULD NOT have the luxury of being blocked out. Plus it gives others the chance to recognise and avoid the idiots if they know what they look like. So what if they get abuse from that? If they can't take it then they shouldn't be dishing it out.
Okay, your video came up on my feed. My questions are: who were they and from where; what did they want? There are always two sides to a story. However, you seem like a nice family just trying to live your life.
Thanks for watching. He works at the united utilities site it would seem. Ultimately I think they didn't want us there and instead of approaching us like nice people they did what they did. We went back down their as it was quiet and out the way, with no signs or restrictions other than the no public access beyond this point on the UU gated entrance. We just wanted to make a brew, chill out, let Maximus have half an hour doing his thing and then go to bed. Wasn't to be sadly 🤯
Country people are mostly selfish, intolerant and unreasonable, and they mostly won't listen to reason, and the older they are, the worse they are. That's just how they are.
The trouble is the shit n filth some vans leave is getting you all a bad name, that area at Lamaload isn't for night camping it's a fishing club Prince Albert and they get poachers all the time night fishing, it can only get worse, I have given up van camping after to much hassle in North Wales and a mates can getting her tyres slashed😢😢
i dont understand what their issue was. I think there is a market for the negative as well. Its real life. I would have liked to have seen the whole footage. This kind of attiude towards visitors has got to stop. All tourists should be welcome to stay as long as they like & spend money in the area Shops pubs restuarants etc. Really should name & shame these people . This will also help stop this kind of confrontation from happening in the future. Stay safe !
Thanks for watching and commenting. We wouldn't like anything to happen to these individuals because we had shown their faces and the full footage. Whilst their actions were absolutely awful and are clearly not very nice humans we don't want them to come to any harm. Unfortunately for them though they will come across somebody with less patience. We absolutely didn't back down and stood our ground firmly. If our boy hadn't been with us we would have called the police but instead we moved on when we were ready.
I get that and in my younger years I may have reacted very different. I am just trying my best to show Maximus another way, it's all the more important with his developmental delay, he is so young and impressionable in his development and already so big. Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
I have come to the conclusion that there are some people in this world that make it their life mission to go out every day and piss people off for no reason whatsoever and it's probably because they are just very unhappy and miserable people that don't want to see others enjoying their lives. Keep living your best lives and ignore the saddos 💕
I had a guy attack me while I was night fishing, giving the billy big, he spat at me.I’m 6 foot 5 and 17 stone. Watching the colour drain from his face and then the thud as his nose connected to my right hand. Funnily enough he disappeared whimpering and I went back to sleep. I don’t suffer fools gladly, but you did the right thing mate 👍
Oh wow!! What absolute horrible human spitting in your face. He must have gotten a terrible shock when you defended yourself. He will think twice about doing that again. Thanks for your comment and supporting our little channel.
@@davidgarratt5518 I love the song you Millwall lads sing its quality. We are Leek Town nobody likes us at the moment only because we are top of the League
They should definitely not be going about doing what they did. They were old too and unfortunately, like you mentioned he may knock on someone's van that isn't so calm.
Unfortunately he'd come across that person if that were me as well lol. Old or not I don't like intimidating behaviour, fools or being spat at lol. I'm with the 6'7 fella. I'm 6'4 and being spat at is a huge no no...Can take being called all sorts of names and insults bit spit at me and I'm willing to get arrested for smacking a knocked lol gotta deal instant justice with some people imo. Fair play for not lumping them tbh haha
Having lived in vans and Trucks for years ive had to square up to idiots like these for years, take thd fight to them, i always had a an axe handy as i had a woodburning stove , a good bright LED torch on pulse mode in a persons face at night is v.disorienting, some people just need a good slap to makd them rethink their behaviour, fit external led lights high up on van roof to see whose about.
We have the big light bar on the front, but my thought was to pick up the camera and have a record for the police dbf. I didn't even know if I would include it in the video, but it was real and sadly it is what can happen. I have just said to John in another comment " In a way we were lucky that they were not very nice but backed down" I also said I can definitely understand why people feel the need to have some form of protection. Thanks for your comment :-)
Ive dealt with these types before, best thing to do is to open the door as hard and fast as you can whilst they are stood there (use your foot to create momentum) they usual end up on the floor at which point you can jump out and determine whether or not further force is required to protect yourself and your family from potential harm..... if someone comes banging on your van in the night, deal first and ask questions later..
Would not be able for that in the middle of the night... As soon as they knocked I would be fuming I am not a people person. Only a fool would cross the line to knock on a man's door late at night.
And if it's the police? Either way, you've just assaulted someone. You can't claim self-defense just because they knocked on your door late at night. Poor judgment, imo especially with the police state we currently live in.
New subscriber and van dweller. As a doorman of 22 years experience.. In no way did I see you losing your cool. I thought it was a measured response setting clear boundaries to protect your family and your personal space from an aggressor..simple. In my experience anyone who steps back and folds their arms had violence as intent as is literally restraining themself by doing so. Looking forward to checking out your back catalogue and new travels :) Namaste.
Thank you for you comment and the benefit of your experience. I felt the same when he folded his arms and that's why I continued to attempt to make space between him and my boy who was sat right behind me. I feel like I did loose my cool a little when the adrenaline kicked in, I try to show Maximus a way with words. He is on the Autistic Spectrum and has developmental delay and anxiety. His emotional develop meant is around 4 years old, even though he looks like a "neurotypical" boy things can effect him. It was definitely a balance of trying to give a measured response and trying to show Maximus the right way. In that I definitely feel I lost my cool a little. Still nice to hear from someone who has had to deal with these things day in day it, my gut reactions were inline with the situation a you saw it. Thanks for the Sub, hope you enjoy our videos ✌️
@@traveling-taylors Thankyou for the response..much appreciated :) I've also worked as a peer based councilor and simply wanted to say that Maximus seems a charming young man and I appreciate his sensitivities and also your desire to set a good example as his protector when faced with emotional volatility from another. I thought you did a Sterling job of balancing your response to the aggression you all experienced in an isolated environment... Bullies only tend to respond to perceived negative consequences for them and it's worth considering how it may have escalated had you not 'lost your cool' as you perceive it. Perhaps go easy on yourself..we are good men..not superman ;)
@@traveling-taylors You will dude thats perfectly normal and expected. It was a traumatic experience for all of you and your obviously empathic nature will attempt to discern with hindsight how it (you) could have been 'better'. You did what you did in the moment and it worked out the best it could have when it could have been so much worse...it's obviously not in your nature to have to talk to people that way and it isn't sitting comfortably with you...that's on him and his wife...not you. Let's put responsibility for this situation where it belongs.
Thanks again, it's a funny one RU-vid. I was in two minds whether to even include it in the video. It is what happened and that's what this is supposed to be about - our travels. Doesn't sit well though even now. It also opens us up to peoples thoughts and opinions and although most see it for what we did there are always those that see it differently and reply with abuse - even if then don't realise that's what they are doing. Thankfully only one so far Thanks again for your comments
Thanks Russell, in the end it came down to is it worth that much of our time and they just weren't. Maximus is happy and has enjoyed another adventure in the van since. He is really looking forward to heading for Scotland and finding snow after Christmas 🙂
@@traveling-taylorsit's for the common good if not for yourself, they'll do it again if they're not told with absolute clarity where the boundaries are.
I would have moved after the interaction with the woman. Unfortunately, we don't get the abuse for who we are and how we act, we get it for all the previous van dwellers who have parked there before. I don't stay in places just because I'm entitled to and it's legal, I stay in places that are safe and that is my priority. Packing up and driving 20 minutes to a back up spot is far less hassle than dealing with 'the knock'.
It was so very quiet and safe we didn't expect the knock. We don't park anywhere just because we have rights but we won't be intimidated by people telling us we have no rights either. We just want a quiet, peaceful life, hence why being responsible and respectful citizens. Unfortunately for the guy that wanted to fight with Graham, he will knock on the wrong door one day and will be met with somebody less restrained. I hope that doesn't happen but inevitably it will. People know their rights nowadays and don't take kindly to bully boy tactics. We did move on though and find somewhere else that was peaceful.
Good on you for showing this. Too many people show only the rosy side of life on social media. Hopefully Mrs and Mrs Old Codger see this and pull their heads in. I don't think you overreacted. It's just a shame you felt you had to move.
My favourite site in the peaks is the one next to the top of Stanage Edge on the road from Ringinglow on the back road to Hathersage. A bit windy but it ensures a peaceful night's sleep from human interruptions. I have a brilliant system in my van. It's an ex-tesco delivery van and was fitted with a 4-camera system with recorder. i managed to get it to work independently off the house battery system. So if I hear a 'worrying' noise in the night I can fire up the recording system and check all the cameras on my viewing screen while still in my warm bed!
We did debate whether to head back to the Roman road and just sleep there, but decided to have tea and park down by the walk to have a look in the morning. As you can see from the drone footage it is pretty impressive in its design. It didn't work out that way. The cameras are a great idea, Tim was saying the same - we need to get some :-)
@@traveling-taylorscameras definitely mean you can see what's happening without showing your face. Sometimes you want to just drive away without interacting.
Life isn’t all sunshine and rainbows, which is unfortunate. But from what I took in from the scene, you handled it well. As a parent with a child with additional needs I will do anything and everything to protect my family, as you did there. I would be exactly the same playing it over and over again in my head, just the way some of us are made. The positive comments say it all 👍
Thanks, it is hard to watch someone accosting my child when it is clear once he talks back he has the communication level of a 4 year old. This didn't stop the wife and I had to place myself between them and get Maximus in the Van. I wish I had the audio but I still had the externalics plugged in and not switched on. I tried to communicate as pleasantly as possible with her that she was verbaly attacking and intimidating ( with the Shep )a child with additional needs. She didn't like that, but I just said there are now signs only the public footpath and no public access on the water works. She left saying she was going to call the police. Then he bounced at the window and into the Van. Another person commented they heard my voice break and I was scared, I was to be fair - I was affraid I was going to have to do something in front of my son that I didn't want to do. I was afraid I would loose my cool. The adrenaline kicks in at the point my voice breaks and that is where rational thought normally leaves and fight or flight kicks in. I didn't want to fight in front of my son, but there was no other option than to push forward and get him out of the space. He clearly looked like he wanted to fight and that was not acceptable. Even now I play it over and over again. The positive response has backed my own thought process, I am not going to lie though. My body and mind had a trauma response both to my own situation and to what Maximus had been exposed to. He is so young in his emotional and social development and things like this can leave an impression. We don't let him watch fighting or play games with fighting in. He is still more interested in Peppa pig. Some people just don't get it. He has violent outbursts towards us though and we know how hard he can hit. He is the size of a small man 😊 with the development age of a toddler. He doesn't yet understand how to control those emotions or feelings. Sorry for the war and peace reaponse. Best wishes to you and your family and thanks again for watching and commenting 🙂
@@traveling-taylors absolutely no need to apologise for the long reply. You absolutely hit a raw nerve with her. The reason she probably didn’t back down and was more aggressive was because she knew she’d messed up. You were perfect with him, forced him to move away from the van. You handled it well 👌 Your son is a big unit! 😂😂 that is a problem (especially if he’s kicking off 😢) as a lot of people have no idea. Open their mouth first, before thinking. There is that, you really don’t know how it impact the kids, episodes like that. Thankfully not an everyday occurrence. Try and put it to bed (says me replying 😂😂). Looking forward to your next upload and adventure. Take care. 👍
I think there is an increasing number of people in this society who have a toxic combination of being utterly miserable, bored and entitled. Rather than find some meaning in their lives, like you and your family clearly have, they like to impose their chronic unhappiness on other people. Especially people whom they see doing something fulfilling and positive. It's a form of jealousy I think. Anyway, regards and best of luck from Dublin, Ireland.
Mate proper Respect to you keeping your shit real I've been to prison for violence twice i snapped and put the aggressive starters in there place in the end but i got punished for standing my ground against the feeble Karen's trying to take away our freedom but you Kept your shit real God bless you mate🙏
Thank you - sorry to hear you went through that for standing your ground. That is always a concern with any incident like that. As Maximus has developmental delay he only has the emotional age of a 4 year old and just going through that was traumatic enough for him without seeing his dad fighting with a guy. He was right up in my face and my main thought was just to get him out of the space a Maximus was directly behind me. Thankfully I managed to move him out of the door without it escalating. There was a moment though when I worried it would become something more when he didn't move back immediately. Thanks again for watching and commenting :-)
Sounds like you hit women. Thing is, life is full of gas lighters. That means manipulation, making you that what's obvious. Even the people who make videos like this are part of an agenda. Maximus? That's a funny name. He has a mental, no, emotional delay problem. Yeah, and then you meet these other funny people with God knows what wrong with them, mentally.
I could tell by the way your voice was breaking that you were scared during the encounter, but you manned up anyway to protect your family and got the bully away from you all. A brave man is not one who does not get scared, but one who does what he has to do in spite of being scared. Kudos to you, mate.
I interpreted it by the voice wobble that this fine gent was just at the point of losing his rag and unleashing terror onto the intruder. No scared of the intruder, but scared that he might take the intruders head off for threatening his family.
Thank you, we just try to show Maximus a way with words and try and stay Calm. That was hard to do in that situation 🤯. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
Bullies, she had a pop at your lad, thinking he was an easy target. Notice how the man absolutely wilts, when you say "don't start". You just have to set these types right from the off. Firmly let them know, mouthing off isn't ever going to work. I have delivered a sharp, sobering, open-handed slap to violent aggressors if there was no other option. Obviously this can escalate, and these types are looking to goad you, then get the police. As opposed to raking you on themselves.
Yeah, the wife wasn't nice. I do try to show Maximus a way with words. It wouldn't be good for him to see me slapping someone, Although I can def understand that response. Thankfully it didn't come to that :-)
I think you stayed very calm, I can’t imagine my husband greeting such people so calmly! 😂 Hope your lad was okay though! Whether you were in the right or wrong for staying there, there was no need for their aggression. Just a polite word to advise that the road was private (if this was the case) & to ask that you kindly move on…perhaps even pointing out another spot for you to stay, as they’d know the area! People are just too quick to speak to each other so disgustingly; we are all just trying to live our lives and have some joy! 😊
Thank you so much for your comment. Our son was quite distressed as the woman had accosted him with her German shepherd and was awful to him. He was just sat outside the van talking to his robot. Graham told her to step away from our boy and asked Max to come back in the van. Then the man opened our van door aggressively and luckily Graham managed to shut the door and tell him to step away. They weren't very nice people and unfortunately for them they will come across somebody less patient than Graham. Thanks watching along and supporting our channel. Have a great weekend 🙂
@@traveling-taylors ah I’m so sorry to hear that your boy was distressed! To do that to any child as an adult, is disgusting. Just glad you were all safe in the end and I hope that you never encounter such vile humans again! X
Thank you so much. Had it just been Graham and I we would have just called the police but we had to remove Max from the situation. It was a very unpleasant experience but we managed to enjoy the rest of our adventures. Thanks again for your lovely, supportive comments 🙂🙂
Happened to me a few times . I can go from calm to hyper aggresion in a millisecond . They will always back off... I am also a petty git & if I know their address I will order a 12yd skip from every skip hire company in the area.
This has made me chuckle. I can just imagine somebody coming home from work to unwanted skips dotted about the place. 😂 Thanks for watching along, commenting and supporting our little channel.
I think you were protecting your family that’s all . There behaviour was disgusting and unacceptable sadly to many of types today. Your were a dad . He is lucky you dident properly put him in the picture. 👍
Hello and congratulations you just met a Karen and her husband. it's hard to calm down after the adrenaline kicks in, I'm not sure about the UK but in the US the last thing you want to do is call a cop they can only make a situation worse, so carry on my good man you and your family enjoy life.
Shocking. Protecting your family, first and foremost, and handled the right way. Everyone is shouting plant one on him. They showed what a s…t type of people they were. Very easy for us to be experts after the event. You can’t teach stupid.
Been living in this van for around 3x years, Think I've only had 1x knock when parked at a RSPB but I could hear his friends saying "But he's got a right to park here", another occasion I was parked in a public road on the edge of a Castle Estate, I had the local security stop in front of my van flashing light, I've got a bulkhead and no windows only 2x sky lights so was hardly aware, they passed the following morning, we chatted and all was OK. My worst one was when I was parked down a country lane on a Saturday evening at a spot I've stayed at many times, was aware of a commotion outside turned out to be 5-6 Police cars with lights flashing but no sirens, clearly they were looking for someone or something, I knew that if I opened my door they would try to do me for something, but as they hadn't knocked and had no reason to I didn't open the door, they left after a few minutes but left one car with WPC's possibly Plastic cops, they tried intimidating me by saying "This is Really Suspicious, clearly up to no good"' followed by "We've called the locksmith who said he'll rip my door off in seconds so we can make an arrest", I continued to watch Star Trek with headphones on one ear, a few minutes later they said "OK a tow truck is on its way"' but then they drove off LoL. I'm sure you do what most van folk do as in be polite and pick up rubbish etc. Hope thats your first and last knock, you can't help what others think or do, clearly their world must be pretty sad in order to chose to interfere with others rather than live and let live.
I truly believe that most people are good but they are definitely some that are not so nice and have had their closed minds convinced that vanlifers leave mess and make noise, when in reality most of us pick up rubbish from spots we stay in that locals have left. In this week's video you can see us picking up litter that we didn't leave. All we can do is just continue doing good, keep ourselves to ourselves and be free 🙂🙂
Glad you have never had to experience anything like it - it's not nice and wouldn't like to have it happen again, especially with Maximus sat behind me.
Wow, that was intense. I think you can guess my reaction G. I'm so very sorry you having to go through this. I realistically agree you handled it legally and you had Maximus to think of but they had already traumatized him so they already did the damage. If that had been our Harley or Mikey they would have gone into full blown meltdown as I am sur Maximus probably did. I know for sure our Harley would probably never have got in the van again. I hope it hasnt upset Maximus badly and put him off going in Wooflie again. That would be a tragedy that would be heart breaking and destroy everything you are trying to build for a life for him. I think he was a pompous up himself prat filled with his own self importance and was darned lucky he hadnt done that to someone who would have given both of them instant flying lessons with no yoga experience needed. This has just upset me so much. Its the first time ever from following you guys and supporting the channel that I have been so upset for you all. I dont think I'll forget the emotion in your voice ever, G. You are a top top man and I am so darned proud of you for defendng your family from knuckle dragging idiots. Chin up. its one event out of lots of memories and thankfully baloons like those two are rare. Dont let them taint using woolfie or make you second guess using him. He's brilliant. You are all brilliant and its a brilliant life affirming channel. I'll tell you in person one of these days when we meet and I can tell you about my amazing nephews. Much love- Kenny
Thanks Kenny, Maximus was really upset. They just didn't understand why we were asking the to leave and move away. Only when Maximus was already crying and rocking from the incident with the wife. I didn't show it as he doesn't want to see it again. I always ask him what he would like in the videos. It is only fair. They didn't go away proper till he was screaming and pressing the horn for long periods. Thankfully our boy is well supported and loved and we took the time after the incident to reassure him he did nothing wrong and that they were not very nice people. His innocence and trusting of other people is still there and he still loves his Wolfie. We talked to him about what he wanted to do after that situation, about moving or going home - which ever he chose we would follow his wishes. He chose to stay and wanted to move away from the nasty people. He wanted to stay his one more night of his holiday. We moved and reassured him again and settled him down. Thankfully he woke up happy and the people next to us were lovely with him, we spent an hour talking to them and he explored in their van and asked a million questions. They definitely helped him forget about what the night before had brought. I probably sound like I was having a moan about them - when in reality I have no problem with what they were doing. They left no trace and turned everything down at a reasonable time. We had just had a fill and wanted calm, part of the reason we seek out places of solitude to camp in the first place Maximus has had another adventure since in Wolfie and is looking forward to his next after Christmas. He is midering me everyday to do the jobs that need doing for the colder weather 😊
I sometimes sleep in the back of my ford connect for work and pocket the hotel money,I actually prefer it to a cheap hotel.It’s amazing how often someone tries the door handles
Freya normally barks if anyone comes that near, although on our last adventure we have 5 or 6 cars outside. When I went out they were just kids and didn't realise it was a camper. You never know though, so we have been looking at external cameras. Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
We've lived in our van for nearly 4 years, camping wild 99% of the time all over the UK, and have thankfully never had anyone aggressive knock at our door. We did once have a church-y bloke let rip, though, yelling that we didn't have permission to park in the church field (we did actually, but he wouldn't stop yelling long enough for us to tell him!) but he ended up coming back later to apologise. Twice 😂 Ironically, I was the victim of an armed robbery when I lived in a flat, which screwed me up for a couple of decades. Van life has restored my faith in people - 99% of people are lovely and very interested in our life on the road, and we've met more people since living in a van than we ever did settled in one area. Sorry you had this horrendous experience but rest assured it's unlikely that anything like this will happen to you again. Hope that helps a bit x P.S I would 100% go to the police about him, as you have his face on video - they might know of him and be waiting for his next slip-up, or he might do the same thing to someone else who can't fight their corner so well as you did.
Thanks for commenting - we have had numerous adventures since with no trouble. Just done nearly 6 weeks in Europe for the summer and had an amazing time. Those videos are going live every Sunday - ish :-)
The other thing strangely I found happened with overnight camping ,out of way places down lanes and places way off road ,in this country you can get dks boy racers coming down ,sitting outside your camper playing loud music ,fkn around what a strange culture we are with some people 😂
I am replying backwards to you - just the way they pop up. Yeah we had a trip out a couple of weeks back and had 4 cars sat outside revving up, they were playing music aswell but I just didn't get the revving. I went out to talk with them and they were only kids and alright to be fair. Asked them if they were being funny or what, they didn't realise we were in there to be fair to them. They stopped the revving and turned the music down a bit. They stayed for about another 15-20 minutes and then made their way.
@@traveling-taylors yeah like I said that's a typical scenario with the boy racers ,my advice would be and don't get me wrong probably like yourself ,I'm game as a shithouse rat and normally was tooled up in the van ,but I wouldn't bother going out to em normally they get bored ,after half hour I couldn't be arsed giving them satisfaction of letting ,them know they were bothering me sometimes I've just slipped shorts on ,and gone through front curtain and re located van nearby lol.
I live in a van (t6). Always park facing my exit, straight wheels, 3ft gap to the rear of the van so as to reduce becoming blocked. First bit of perceived trouble, l always move to my second choice pre- chosen, as it reduces confusion in that moment. In a back handed way, the old couple did all of you a favour, Maximus woke up in a location he liked, you got the best footage from the trip, and as a family you all shrugged it off. ( You have an incredible wife, who has a great personality, with a real strength, ( in kindness).👍
Whilst we appreciate what you say - we believe Karma will find its way and we don't want to sink to his level and cause him the distress he caused us and our boy. Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
I have a cunning plan. Let’s all stay down that PUBLIC road. Put the ‘what three words’ location and we’ll stay there…. We’ll happily remind them of their folly..
Firstly can I say how well you handled the situation, if it was me an that stupid moron of a man put his head in my van mmmm let's just say he would have been in some pain pronto . I've never watched a vanlife video and been so sick to my stomach, they really are a vile couple, you shouldn't have blurred anyone out shame those pathetic excuses. I'd seriously consider showing the police the video as using a dog to intimidate a child really is a vile act of intimidation , what lunatic does that 🙈. Nice one for getting the drone back 👍🏻 I didn't have so much luck a few months ago 🙈 a seagull took a dislike to my DJI mini and it ended up in the sea, last I heard it was doing the back stroke 🙈😂. You are a beautiful family and it shines through your videos and we thank you for letting us into your adventures, good or bad your videos are great and we hope we see you on the black tar rivers one day, you truly are an inspirational family, sending love peace and good energy always ❤️🙏🏻
Thank you, it turned my stomach editing it. I don't want to show their face as that is just not us. I have said a couple of times I didn't know weather to include it, we do try to keep it all positive, probably to the detriment of views and such as RU-vid seems to thrive from controversy. I think this is the first time in 123 videos we have had something like this. It was real though and what happened - so it was part of our travels. We said we would call the police and they replied with we know them all, like it gave them the right to behave as they did. 🤯 As for the drone, there is around 5 minutes of footage of it fighting against the updraft from that dam. I had a little bit of a sweat on thinking it was going to drop and that would be it. The battery light came on and wind warnings, return to home couldn't work cause it was stuck. I was so happy when I got it out of the main wind and could get it back to us. :-) The back stroke made me chuckle 🤣 Thanks as always 🤠
@@traveling-taylors you upload or not whatever you want 👍🏻 as I totally know what you mean about RU-vid (sadly) the world's definitely getting a mad place and these platforms prefer that 🤯. You've just given us a chuckle imagining you with a sweat on getting the drone back 😂 (know the feeling) all ended well though 🙏🏻👍🏻. You know as well as we do this was just two complete idiots and a one off bonkers incident, karma will not take kindly to what happened. Look forward to more adventures from you (still showing people your van extention videos 👍🏻) love, peace and good energy ❤️🙏🏻
:-) drones - great bits of kit, cause some worry though. Yes unfortunately drama sells - Maximus watches every video we make, he loves to talk about his adventures. So we don't like drama, we like the videos to display his good behaviour and create positive reinforcement. That's why we don't include his meltdowns or go into to much detail in the videos. Would you believe we get thumbs down on episodes where we don't include those things, for some macabre reason people want to see our child at his lowest. We just don't oblige. This was real though and it highlights other peoples behaviour towards him and towards people who decide to travel in their vans, whether that be full time or just as we do when we can. It's sad really as people use the term freeloaders a lot, personally before we had a child with additional needs and before that as a single person I worked for some big companies and gave them blood. 6 in the morning till 10 a night with travel either side of that. Yes I made some decent money, I also paid some ridiculous amounts in tax. When I had my own business even more in tax. As everyone who has a bricks and mortar setup up does, we pay council TAX. As anyone anywhere who shops, we pay value added TAX on everything. Our vehicle we pay road TAX and TAX on fuel. No one in this country who wants to eat and live is a "free loader" It sickens me the way everything is geared in the UK to make you think less of your fellow human being and to question ever single penny your neighbour may or may not get. All the while our Social services and when I say that I mean things a population has basic needs for eg: GAS, ELECTRIC, WATER, PUBLIC TRANSPORT, NHS. All these things have been or are being sold so they can make billions for share holders whilst the infrastructure is crippled and left to rot. The system is skewed so people focus on benefit payment that cost a few million in comparison to tax evasion's that cost trillions. It's a sad state of affairs in the UK and across the wider world. Wow, I got off on a tangent then, back to the point - people are brainwashed to think anyone that doesn't comply to the norm and feed the corruption in the system is somehow their enemy and needs to be confronted. In doing so it legitimises behaviour like we experienced as have countless others. I wish their was a lot more love and peace and good energy, we wish you the same and thank you for yours 🙏
@@traveling-taylorsif he's saying he knows all the Police (& not lying) that means they're condoning his behaviour so the Police need to be reported too, to their County Police, to the elected Commissioner, to the Ombudsman & above all to both your MP & theirs. If the situation is left it *_will_* escalate, eventually to a situation like Oliver Twist or like Palestine. _I_ certainly don't want our country taking that route & I doubt many do. That's why the Police were invented in the first place.
Isn't there a saying "NEVER ARGUE WITH A FOOL PEOPLE. THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE" Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
MATE THERE IS ALWAYS THAT TYPE OF BONE-HEAD AROUND SOMEWHERE!!--THEY ARE THE SHIT-SIDE OF LIFE.--I ALWAYS CARRY A "BASE-BALL BAT"--WHEN TALKING JUST FAILS--PROTECT YOU WIFE &KID AT ALL COSTS !!
Thanks for commenting, whilst I always try and show Maximus a way with words - I can definitely understand why people would feed the need to have something to protect themselves with. In a way we were lucky that they were not very nice but backed down. It's a sad state of affairs, that was my main thought though - move him away from my boy and his space.
How dare you. How dare you do that. How dare you camp on a public road that is quiet with your wife and kid which is a huge danger to local people (im kidding). Man if I was a local and seen you guys camping on side road I would not care and if I did see you I would of said hi and asked if you need any above about local area. I absolutely would Not come up and knock on the door which is absolutely not needed. The guy at first seemed ok but he escalated by how he crossed his arms and stood firm. The best thing is to say your a cop and your on holiday with your family hahaha. Oh just commented on elsdon video as my Grandma was from there. Thanks from NZ ..Happy Anzac Day
Too be honest Guys my brother was disabled. And i wouldn't of stood for that for sure . Being the way those horrible people was with you. I would kept it calmly, then i would of said how you said mate get away from my space. Lucky for me mate. We have a good CCTV on our van. Id definitely get one yours selves as an extra percussion. Some nasty people out there... Was a lovely adventure you showed us and explored. Amazing drone. And great footage. I flew my drone once in high winds in sport mode it was no problem lol. Even had trouble to land it . Would you believe. It was my phantom pro 4. I lower d it to head height. And took it by hand and turned the motors off manually... So sorry you had to go through this horrible ordeal with nasty people out there. Weldone Maximus for starting wolfie...❤❤❤
Thanks Tim, the newer bigger drones have a better wind rating. The little Mini 2 gets us some great shots for now. Maximus loves starting the Van, it makes his day sometimes :-) You got any new adventures planned?
@traveling-taylors on about going back to whitby and going maybe where you went lake district. I've had to get a better fridge freezer as solar not as good lol. Battery amazing though.
Hi. I've just watched this video. What is wrong with people! I can understand that people may have had problems in the oadt with inconsiderate campervan owners, but you cannot think we arecall the same. And to come knocking during the hours if darkness, whatever the time, is not on. At leadt they could have waited until daylight if whst they had to say is that important. You can obviously handle yourself (even so, not nice to have to deal with) but your poor wife and child, must have been frightening for them both. You handled it very well. We'd have done what you did ( providing not physical assault or damage to van was done, then it would gave been a police involvement) and moved on. We are like you, and I hope the majority of vanners, just wantbto get away from it all for some peace and quiet not maje any trouble or mess. Its the don't give a damn type that upset people, like had obviously happened to this guy before. Anyway you look like a nice family im sure you won't let it put you off. We've subscribed now and wiil watch your vids from the start. 🙂👍
I thought you handled it very well. Grew tall and very firm and consistent. What a shame people feel the need to dump their negativity on others. Well done! Dont let em grind you down.
There's always some Nimby W ⚓ who think they own the place. If you act calmly you can explain it's a public road and you're within your rights. If they try to act aggressively and intimidate you - I tend to go full on wild and they back off quick. If they call the law the law won't do owt. If they are civil I just ask why they thought they needed to approach a vehicle if they didn't know if it'd be safe. Put the onus on them. Also make sure you know it's public land or a public road, that tends to put them off when you know all the facts. Coming to the door with a dog like that was obviously an intimidation tactic - I'd say : "if you don't want your dog gassed move him away - I have the right to protect myself by law". But I don't have a young child with me. Don't raise your voice look them square in the eyes and tell them to back off for their own safety. Sorry you had to deal with the village morons - You did right to move on. They tend to try and get help when you send them off and some don't have the brains to get off and keep their noses out. I use strong language but I don't lose my temper and I don't shout in fact I lower my voice and look right at them, they back off fast.
These two were a law unto themselves. Had Max not been with us we would have called the police as they were using threatening behaviour and like you said intimidation tactics 🙄 Next time they behave like this it may not work out so well for them.
@@traveling-taylors - I mean idiots if you had been up to no good in the back cutting up dead bodies they could've been next - some folk don't have the brains they were born wi'. Glad you're safe though.
No excuse for his behaviour, I predict if they are local they have had some bad experiences regarding wild camping,thus tarring us all with the same brush. You did the right thing by standing your ground as I would have felt very threatened in your situation.
Just subscribed to your channel 😎 You handled the situation really well and being assertive towards unknowns at night is definitely the way to handle this sort of situation 😎
Thank you so much for your comment and for subscribing to our little channel, we really appreciate it 🙏 Graham's Assertiveness definitely payed off as they did back off eventually
I generally stay calm ask them are they having a bad day would they like a cup of tea this puts them on the back foot because they're not expecting it but on one occasion a guy pulled at my sleeve that's assault he ended up on his back and I held him until the police arrived
I travel on my own with 2 Jack Russell dogs. Thankfully I’ve never had anything like this happen to me. I’m not sure what the problem was as you didn’t show why these idiots felt the need to harass you but I’m presuming they did not like you being there even though you were legally parked and not causing a nuisance. You were very respectful from the footage shown and you were calmer than I would have been. Don’t let it put you off, there are lots of nice people out there that I have bumped into on my travels.
Gutted for you guys. We just watched and enjoyed your vlog. We found you by accident just one of those videos that autoplay when you don't stop the last one you are watching. So glad we found you, we have subscribed. We do a little RU-vid but more on Facebook. Were the women and the old guy related? They were bang out of order. So unnecessary to speak to anyone like that what ever their problem. Well done for handling it so well, not sure I could have done. It is because of people like that we couldn't wait to get over to Europe for the winter. Hope to see you down the road and if we do please say hello. Douglas would love to meet you and especially Maximus.
Thank you, yeah they are husband and wife. She confronted Maximus whilst he was alone, as a child on the Spectrum he has developmental delay so he is around 4 in his social understanding. She didn't know that of course so she was getting more angry with him not understanding her ( not that ehat she was saying was correc) she was holding her dog to try and intimidate him. When I moved between them and gor Maximus back in the van she came at me. I pointed out it where it stated public access and no public access. She left and then the husband came at me like he did. Maximus also has anxiety and that left him very upset. We moved because he didn't want to stay. No need for any of it. Thank you for your comment and sub. Hope you enjoy our little videos. If you see us out and about just say hello 👋 😊
New subscriber I work in retail and deal with people like this on a daily basis at no point did you lose control and remained calm. Sadly in life people love a confrontation
Completely agree. I used to work in a petrol station and the sheer amount of unreasonable scumbags you'd come across on a daily basis really opened my eyes. Junkies, petty thieves and aggressive people just looking for an argument. Most people are blissfully unaware of what's going on around them
You kept your cool where I definitely wouldn't, someone opened my van door like that they would be needing an ambulance especially if my wife and kids were in there. Perfectly within my rights as well to protect myself and my own regardless of where you stopped.
I have seen videos of these two before. Im not to sure of the womans nickname by the locals but the alfa male is known by the name ted bundy. He can be a real menace.
I’m so sorry to hear you all went through this, in the moment it’s bloody terrifying…. Myself and friend were in a similar position….a man didn’t like her dog (15 months old poodle).. so he kicked the dog and then came at us when we tried protecting the dog… he was nose to nose, bright red, veins popping, spitting as he shouted his diatribe (hates campers it seems)… I put my arm out and instructed him to “back off, step back” he took that really badly, he went to hit me 😮… he completely lost it…. Luckily I was able to move side on and he hit past me….. my dad taught all of his daughters well, Iv done BUJ, MMA and boxing for over 25 years…. I had trained my whole life for that interaction…. I wrapped myself around him like a snake, took his back and rear naked choke until he dozed off… then I lifted his legs to help him come around and suggested again “back off” he tried one last attack and again missed his target, at that point I hit him and we left…. He was shouting “I will get you next time”…. There are some dreadful people about… he was an angry drunk little man…. Everyone should learn self defence on some level…. I think it saved us…. Once your limbic system kicks in, it’s really hard to think outside of frames, so the more you practice the more natural it is…. Meet them with the same level of violence they meet you and if they do go nose to nose, exceed their level of violence, he really underestimated his marks that night You handled it beautifully, clear instructions and you held your own, bloody scary
Thank you so much for your comment. I can't believe some horrible human kicked your dog 😢 and then went nose to nose with you. He definitely picked on the wrong person when he chose you though and good for you for defending yourself properly 👍 Hopefully you taught him a tough lesson that he cannot go around behaving in that way. Thank goodness you are adept at handling yourself. Thanks for supporting our little channel 🙂
He was an old man and he knew he wouldn’t able to fight, that’s why he folded his arms. He was comforting himself because there was nowt he could do and he’d lost the fight
what do you do ? you state "move away as your causing me fear and alarm" (then you drop him, and continue until they are no longer a threat) you had a child in the van, act first, question intent later, thay came looking for you not the opposite way around !
You did what you needed to do to ensure the safety of your family, and you did right! Well done for keeping the peace. May i also say what a beautiful family you are! The world need more people like you and your wife. Stay safe and create memories together.💫🌟🫶
I have an autistic son, you handled the situation well mate. My son would've reacted similar to Max amd wouldn't have felt comfortable stating in the same area. Don't beat yourself up, you done well to protect your family.
