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Trevor is joined with Golden Age Cartoons's alum Matt Hunter in discussing the history and negative impacts of the redrawn and computer colorized black and white shorts of the 30s. #looneytunescritic
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@vincentfranklin17
@vincentfranklin17 5 лет назад
When I was a kid, I saw some shorts where Daffy Duck looked brown, instead of black. I hated those!
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 5 лет назад
So did I. And it was on Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon. I swear, that show was nothing but redrawn colorized shorts, Daffy/Speedy shorts, Pepe Le Pew cartoons that were too risque to show on Saturday mornings (so...all of them from "Scent-imental Romeo" to "Louvre Come Back to Me", though I never saw "Dog Pounded" until Cartoon Network aired it. Plus, that's more of a Sylvester and Tweety cartoon), and some Looney Tunes shorts that a lot of people don't remember because networkTV didn't rerun them to death.
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 4 года назад
Well, when I was a kid in the '70's (shows you how old I am!), I ha NO way of knowing that they were not the genuine article. I found out they were actually black and white around 1985 when THE DAFFY DOC, PORKY'S DUCK HUNT, and YOU OUGHT TO BE IN PICTURES (never redrawn) came out as part of the GOLDEN JUBLIEE home video series
@FuriousMan226
@FuriousMan226 4 года назад
Chris Mulwee The Daffy Doc and Porky’s Duck Hunt were redrawn tho
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 4 года назад
@@chrismulwee4911 Same here. They showed some of the old ones on the UHF channels when I was a kid, and I thought it was just a matter of a faded/aged print. (They also spliced in the post-60s opening and closing--the "Seven Arts" one, with older audio dubbed over it--and I thought that was the one they'd used back then.)
@ToonReel001
@ToonReel001 4 года назад
The digitally recoloured ones weren't too bad, even if they were often over saturated. I wouldn't have minded having those as extra viewing options in DVD sets featuring the black and white originals (and maybe even the redrawn ones for historical purposes). Plus they at least gave the cartoons more exposure on networks that were persnickety about airing old black and white stuff. I do remember having a public domain VHS as a kid with the redrawn Notes to You and a sepia toned Porky's Midnight Matinee, and even then I could tell the latter had smoother animation.
@stephenholloway6893
@stephenholloway6893 2 года назад
At least the computer colorized version had the original animation intact. The 1968 version not so much. The original black and white version of the shorts are better.
@tonymata8070
@tonymata8070 5 лет назад
When I saw the colorized versions I was like “NO GET IT OFF!!!”, it’s kinda like how I feel seeing Psycho, Night of the Living Dead and the Universal Monsters in color. It’s not right and not normal. 😨
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic Год назад
Watch to the end of Part 2. I go after Ted Turner personally. Well, his house. Well, Cartoon Network. Like, actually physically go there.
@tonymata8070
@tonymata8070 Год назад
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic What's the name of that video, Cause I want to see you rip this guy a new one. 😆
@DerekS1937
@DerekS1937 5 лет назад
I have a friend who's actually trying to start a redraw and computer colorised archive. It's weird, but he's just doing it cause......uhh......I forgot. By the way, if you wanna have a good laugh riot, watch the redraw of 1941's A Coy Decoy. Especially the end. It's AMAZINGLY bad.
@MattHunterSays
@MattHunterSays 5 лет назад
I don't think either of us had a decent copy of that one in redrawn form, but oh yeah...the Korean "Artists" even mis-traced book titles. "The Wole of Wall Street" made me laugh.
@racheln8563
@racheln8563 3 года назад
There’s a huge goof in Porky’s Poppa in which Swiss cheese comes by on a conveyer belt, and mice pop out and start yodeling. The redrawn version eliminated that scene, but oddly kept the audio as the camera held on a still from the previous scene. Bizarre.
5 лет назад
even tho i strongly dislike the korean versions and i don't approve coloring B&W stuff, i actually like the computer colored versions CN used to show in the 90s/2000s. they have a very weird but interesting aesthetic of clean colors while still looking very old and done on paper, not even cartoons that were originally done on paper and colored on PC have this same aesthetic
@thomasbarraza9863
@thomasbarraza9863 5 лет назад
It’s relieving to see someone else’s opinion on the 8thmandvd shorts it distributes. Also to note is how much space the channels watermark takes up in each short, which can be bothersome when watching the short. I also somewhat think the computer colorized shorts can be convincing to think they were made in color to begin with, with the correct colors. Lastly, I’m glad you sat down and had your opinion on the attempts of colorized shorts. Looking forward to part 2.
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 5 лет назад
It was the redrawn/colorized ones they used to show on some channels when I was a kid...and the weird thing was, they had the Warner Brothers/Seven Arts opening logo from the late-period ones, but with the audio from the old openings dubbed over them. So for the longest time I thought those WERE the openings from the older cartoons. (And I thought the weird color schemes were just the fading of old prints.)
5 лет назад
Jennifer Schillig yeah. Was one of them you saw was Porky the fireman?
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 5 лет назад
@ Not sure...it's been a while. Probably, though. :-)
@Musicradio77Network
@Musicradio77Network 3 года назад
The W7 openings and closings from the 1967-69 period did appeared on redrawn color “Looney Tunes” from 1972 where they replaced the Bill Lava’s theme with the original “Looney Tunes” theme played over it due to bad plastering.
@naldy21b
@naldy21b 3 года назад
@@Musicradio77Network I'm nostalgic for the red OOs in the word "Cartoon" moving while Porky says "Abi abi abi That's all Folks!", even though it was wrong... 😉
@fhb3
@fhb3 2 года назад
Man, I remember those cartoons! Some episodes had the Warner Bros. Seven Arts Animation theme!
@zebart
@zebart 5 лет назад
FYI, The 68 remakes that you were watching were 16mm prints that used cheap Kodak Eastman color hence the pink tones.
@zachcoastercrazy4032
@zachcoastercrazy4032 4 года назад
They originally looked red, I think.
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 4 года назад
Trevor, don't know about you, but to me one of the most laughable redrawn mistakes, is Lawyer Goodwill's "disappearing nose" in THE CASE OF THE STUTTERING PIG. Another disappearing mistake is in PORKY'S DUCK HUNT in which early Daffy lands in the lake and disappears for a second on his first "quack" Anyone else notice those. And talking about "hot colors" even the iris outs are psychedelic colors like, red, green, or even blue!
@michaelpaoneproductions
@michaelpaoneproductions 5 лет назад
i remember i got a dvd that was just called "bugs bunny and daffy duck" as a kid. what i didn't realize at the time was that it wasn't an official WB release and it was all public domain cartoons in terrible quality. one was a "colorized" version of "daffy's southern exposure." i put colorized in quotes because literally everything was a reddish-brown.
@jadetealaaron2003
@jadetealaaron2003 4 года назад
Original: Great! Colorized: Either Great or Ok Redrawn: W H Y
@antoniod
@antoniod 4 года назад
When I was an 11 year-old nostalgia buff, I avidly ate up the redrawn LOONEY TUNES when they were introduced on Boston TV(1970 or '71)assuming them to be authentic 30s cartoons, but I wondered why the animation was so jerky, and also why Warner owned them but not the MELODIES of the same vintage! I finally learned they were trace-overs around 1975, and knew of the Warner-Sunset-Seven Arts-Warner round robin later.
@antoniod
@antoniod 4 года назад
And they made Charlie Chaplin a Blonde!
@John80220
@John80220 4 года назад
The first series of computer colorized LTs, in 1990, suffered from some of the same bad color choices as the redrawns. The second group, in 1992, avoided that mistake, but the colors instead were muted -- lots of browns and greens, but not the type of colors the original crews would have used if the cartoons had been done in color in the first place. It's only when you get to the final series of computer colorizations, in 1995, that the color choices start coming close to what the directions would have chosen 55 years earlier.
@DanknDerpyGamer
@DanknDerpyGamer Год назад
That 1992 one is a HELL of a lot better compared to the redrawing/colorizing effort.
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 5 лет назад
To me, it's more based on choice or taste. The Bottom "Original B/W" selection is what I call "We chose it this way, even though others had color" cartoons; The Middle "Computerized" Section is what I call "You don't have to watch it, but you can if you want" color cartoons; and the Top "Redrawn" section is what I call "What we're doing is wrong, we know it's wrong, but we're doing it anyway" color cartoons. My recommendation is avoid the redrawn ones at all costs. You're free to watch either the original Black and White, or the computerized colored versions. I feel that the computerized ones can fit into the decade it came from, but more of a what-if selection.
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 5 лет назад
No one has ever said the sentence, "Hey, we need a super snazzy, quick name for some stuff, let's get Robbie, why, he's practically a Namesmith!" Your names might be more accurate, but brevity is the soul of wit, so we're going to keep calling them 'Redraws, Colorized and... " well, actually we don't call the black and white ones anything because they're the only ones that matter. Avec! - trevor.
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 2 года назад
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic Well, my point was that the redrawn ones are the only ones that DON'T matter. If anyone wants to watch the originals in b&w, more power to the audience, it means some attention to the original showings are still thriving. I still stand by my view that, even with the computerized color version, the original B&W will still be remembered. I was just seeing these two options in a similar fashion to Game and Watch Gallery, where the graphics were updated in the modern variations, but the gameplay retains; it even came with the original versions as an option, unless you want to go for completion by unlocking stuff. I don't speak for everyone about this choice, but other than the redraw variants, I just don't see what the big deal is.
@hugo1089
@hugo1089 5 лет назад
The colorized ones aren't bad. But the redrawn are abominable
@KatnipMB
@KatnipMB 5 лет назад
Steven Rettig yeah, the middle ones are officially colorized by Warner Bros., but the redraws are just bad
@dekat27
@dekat27 5 месяцев назад
Do you know where I can watch the bad 1960s korean colorized versions, as I haven't been able to find any working links or sites with the real versions? Specifically Rover's Rival and the Impatient Patient, as I've heard those have weird things in them as results of the colorizations.
@jccw227
@jccw227 5 лет назад
One big blunder I remember in a colorized Looney Tunes cartoon was in the Porky Pig short, The Sour Puss, which used to air on Nickelodeon regularly through the 90s. It was the final gag where the shark turns into a caricature of Lew Lehr. In the colorized version, the shark flickers for several frames between being a regular shark and Lew Lehr. I may have been about 10 years old, and thought it was a bit jarring, and I was so blown away when I finally saw the black and white version and the flicker wasn’t there.
@m3rrys0ngstr3ss
@m3rrys0ngstr3ss 5 лет назад
That jacket was effin' horrific.
@isabeld.paredes4923
@isabeld.paredes4923 11 месяцев назад
I remember watching the redrawn versions of many Looney Tunes cartoons and thinking why isn't the movement of the characters as lifelike as it should have been? Then I saw a few of the original cartoons (even computer-colorized) and noticed the difference
@FunnymanTimmy
@FunnymanTimmy 5 лет назад
The Family Circus creator was a hack? But his son is a famous veteran Disney animator.
@dannyspelman1468
@dannyspelman1468 3 года назад
Unfortunately I grew up on mostly the redrawn colorized Looney Tunes instead of the originals. One TV station where I'm from seemed to have the whole package. I knew they weren't the genuine article only because I had a few black and white or sepia toned cartoons on tape which didn't have as many errors as its colorized duplicate. The Henpecked Duck comes to mind. Some had the orange rings opening, some had the 7-arts and some actually tried to recreate the original titles (but failed). Daffy was usually brown. Most had the end theme or the Porky "That's all folks" played under either the orange rings or the 7-arts closing titles but the odd one had actually animated Porky coming from the drum. The iris outs were animated in colour. It sucked but that's how I saw most of the black and white cartoons as a kid. At some point in the late 1990s, the original black and white cartoons started showing up on TV.
@TunesAndToons
@TunesAndToons 4 года назад
I saw "Porky Pig's Feat" (a great short, BTW) in black-and-white, in one of the old non-twisted Spike and Mike shows, and I was happy to find it on one of the laserdiscs WHV produced in the 90s. But even though WHV included black-and-white copies of other early Looney Tunes on those discs, for this title they used the computer colorized version, and the colors are almost painful. Fortunately, by the time they got around to including it on DVD, they used the black-and-white print.
@ryanhoward3383
@ryanhoward3383 7 месяцев назад
When I was growing up, I saw the computer colorized cartoons on Nick all the time. I could tolerate those. It's the redrawn ones that were awful.
@emcvideoproductions500
@emcvideoproductions500 5 лет назад
I never cared much for the aspect ratio of the public domain versions, what I did care about though was just how bad they looked. As a kid they never bothered me, as I got older I realized just why those original black & white prints were so timely.
@imrustyokay
@imrustyokay 4 года назад
i feel like watching london weekend television now Thank you, Mr. Chriddoff for telling people about the infamous dead bug in the frames
@Rlotpir1972
@Rlotpir1972 3 года назад
Warner Bros. should've waited until 1957 when A.A.P. acquired the golden era Looney Tunes and the theatrical Popeye cartoons from Paramount.
@MrIveyIsBonkers
@MrIveyIsBonkers 4 года назад
I mean, Porky may stutter his speech but he shouldn't stutter in movement.
@kingandrewcecil348
@kingandrewcecil348 3 года назад
The redrawns look as if the cartoons were entirely remade in color by monkeys instead of actual animators. It's really THAT BAD 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@Musicradio77Network
@Musicradio77Network 3 года назад
Redrawns are just an acid drug trip if they took too much LSD.
@fhb3
@fhb3 2 года назад
I miss watching those redrawn Looney Tunes in syndication. Especially when they had the psychedelic W7 logo.
@griff311
@griff311 4 года назад
Fantastic video! I’m watching all the Looney Tunes in order and was curious about the history of them being colorized. I always seek out the black and white versions to watch them as the artists intended them to be watched. Thanks for this!
@hatemate1612
@hatemate1612 28 дней назад
That 8th man DVD rant cracked me up so much I had to come back to this video to hear it again
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 28 дней назад
I can guarantee, after briefly having worked for him, a rant by me about him (his real name is Ed) NOW would be even more epic. Guy's a raging narcissist with mommy issues and an addiction to benzos... good luck trying to have a coherent conversation (let alone argument which was more frequent) with him. Fuck you, Ed. You ranting, raving, babbling pill popper! I'm GLAD everyone at 8thMan bought you out and then sued the shit out of you. You deserve it. Your mother? She doesn't, but then again, she made you the way you are, so fuck her too I guess. And stop asking me for Jerry Beck's contact info, he's wise to you too. We all are. You make the shittiest versions of these cartoons available, you tell everyone they're restorations, they're not (they're crappy versions you found online somewhere and you stretched them out and slapped a really big watermark on them) and then you wonder why everyone hates you. I guess if he's done anything positive, it's the fact that the LT fan community and WB are often at odds with one another, yet if it's one person both WB and the LT community hate equally? It's him. Again I say it... fuck you, Ed. You got what you deserve and good riddance. - trevor.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 лет назад
Skipping every second frame was pretty dumb what about comedic timing. At least with the digitally colored ones the movement is the same.
@superhersheyplushiesproduc719
@superhersheyplushiesproduc719 5 лет назад
There’s one of my friends named Kyle Rangel who he and I been finding Redrawns since like 2017, and I remember he made a video on his RU-vid channel discussing about finding “Rare Redrawns” but that video is deleted but I remembered that he’s said about the B&W Cartoons “if I watched B&W Cartoons, I’ll turn into a Old Man”
@tootslootandshoot
@tootslootandshoot 4 года назад
The B&W originals are easily the best of the 3 but if a computer colorized versions comes up on tv or whatever ill still watch it and enjoy it, They certainly dont ruin the entire cartoon imo The redrawn on the other hand kill it with fire
@Musicradio77Network
@Musicradio77Network 8 месяцев назад
Thankfully, Discovery Family aired the three Porky Pig cartoons, and they’re all original B&W versions, no redrawns, no computer colorized, nothing, all original B&W versions. Recently, they aired the first two cartoons that were in the Public Domain including “Porky’s Bear Facts” and “Porky’s Cafe”, both aired on Discovery Family for the first time.
@Arashi_92
@Arashi_92 4 года назад
When I was a kid , I enjoy watching both the Digital Color versions and the original version of these cartoon on both Nickelodeon's run of Looney Tunes and Cartoon Network (toon heads, Bugs & Daffy , etc) . For both parts 1 & 2 , I understand there is an issue that those cartoons should have been remained in it orginal source, how ever, cartoons like Porky's last stand or Porky's News reel , looks pretty decent in color
@merrillmilner8717
@merrillmilner8717 3 года назад
In The Great Piggy Bank Robbery, the opening scene has a pan shot of the countryside with skipped frames.
@samsamkin4647
@samsamkin4647 3 года назад
They seem to do this a lot with films that were originally made in black and white in the 1930s nowadays, not just animated short films but also Laurel and Hardy films and even a few Three Stooges shorts that I watched on RU-vid (such as Disorder in the Court). I've even seen a short film called Reefer Madness that was originally shot in black and white and was recently computer colorized. It was some bizarre propaganda film made in the mid 1930s about the dangers of smoking marijuana that was later shown in cinemas in the late 1960s. In the colorized version, whenever someone takes a puff of a marijuana joint the smoke would be either purple or green color.
@Mpshfromlowell64
@Mpshfromlowell64 3 года назад
My first exposure to these cartoons as to the redrawn cartoons in the 1970’s. I assure you, we barely noticed, and if we did, we didn’t care. They were cartoons; that was good enough…..
@jacobwhaley5902
@jacobwhaley5902 4 года назад
Y'know, I have this Cartoon Craze DVD from 2004 that contains the redrawn versions of Porky's Café, Ali-Baba Bound and Notes to You, but strangely they're given a B/W filter. Despite the obvious fact that the back of the DVD contains three screenshots from Porky's Café that show the weird choice of colour, especially the hot neon-pink on Porky's shirt. I also have a VHS cassette from 1988 that has the redrawn versions of The Timid Toreador, Notes to You and Ali-Baba Bound.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 лет назад
Number one rule of coloring digitally and with paint never use the color that id there mix it or adjust the saturation.
@schuszter4280
@schuszter4280 2 года назад
Always thought the redrawn ones were super ugly. I’ve got the redrawn versions of Notes To You and Impatient Patient on PD tapes, the prints are okay enough for PD bootlegs. I’ve got some of the redrawn Porky ones on a bootleg DVD set, all of which look terrible. All those versions I mentioned were my first exposure to these cartoons
@francescamiano8394
@francescamiano8394 3 года назад
I grew up watching many of the black and white cartoons on local stations in the 1960s. Therefore, when I saw the Korean redrawn versions, it was very disturbing.
@elijahblechman8633
@elijahblechman8633 3 года назад
Colonizing black and white Film is very tricky. It can be done. But it needs to be a careful selection of asthiecs and an understanding of how the film or animation was created. Not half assed. But it's such a daunting task it begs the question: why do it in the first place?
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 3 года назад
Really, the only reason to ever do it is if you are restoring something that IS meant to be color and the only elements you have are the black and white registers. Anything beyond that is merely technologically sophisticated graffiti. . - trevor.
@skinnyweenie8679
@skinnyweenie8679 3 года назад
Oh, I remember my stupid self wanted Black and White cartoons to be colorised. But now, I totally respect them being in Black and White because I have to say that those colorized versions drains out the B&W magic and do not look good.
@samp.8099
@samp.8099 5 лет назад
Hey Trevor, the little smudge you showed in the Ali Baba Bound freeze frame isn't the fly; it actually appears in the far left of the screen around the 1:02 minute mark when Porky starts singing "She's the sweetest one he found". It's pretty easy to make out its shape, especially the wings, but I guess it's harder to spot it in some bad looking prints. You can clearly see it in this version though ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EDMqDWZHhN4.html) it somehow stays on screen not for a single frame but for more than a full second, makes you think of the working conditions those korean animators had to deal with in whatever sweatshop these cartoons were made in.
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 5 лет назад
Yeah, there was a debate about that and, over multiple platforms, I posted that freeze frame asking if it was the fly and literally everyone said 'that's it,' including Matt! I was like, "I don't think that's a fly, that looks more like a dried paint drop." Guess my eyes aren't useless balls in my face just yet. BTW, balls in your face have the potential to be very useful, so forget what I said.
@samp.8099
@samp.8099 5 лет назад
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic Glad to know that my balls are worth something
@ZaygetRIGHT
@ZaygetRIGHT 5 лет назад
Send a copy of that Daffy Duck “the impatient patient” file in HD
@hyperpowerfulform5132
@hyperpowerfulform5132 5 лет назад
Whose the ninth child in a family of eight who looked at the neon colors and said that it looks acceptable?
@andrewkful
@andrewkful 5 лет назад
Is today the day Andrew discovers Bill Keane was a hack!? Of what!?
@AshleyTre
@AshleyTre 4 года назад
The computer colorised ones look pretty good but maybe thats compared to the redrawn one
@brockpifer9929
@brockpifer9929 5 лет назад
It’s just the redrawn 60s cartoons don’t look professional. The 90s computer colored cartoons are better as in quality and detail of color. The colors in the redrawns don’t even look realistic like example the toast and coffee in Porky’s Cafe. The toast and the coffee are hot pink and Daffy in some of the Norman McCabe cartoons where he’s brown just like Trevor mentioned. Like seriously?! I don’t really suggest colorizing cartoons in black and white. I suggest just leave it the way it originally was
5 лет назад
Brock Pifer also, some redrawns end up using the incorrect opening title (ex. the 1937-1938 Porky facing left opening title on a 1938-1939 season cartoon) and even went as far by using the wrong opening theme that goes along with it.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 лет назад
I wonder how something would look if it was colorized today.
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 5 лет назад
Like a Life Savers commercial.
@felixleidig8307
@felixleidig8307 4 года назад
i think the second row looks good
@Waltman13
@Waltman13 4 года назад
Just focusing on the porky's feat short in specific, while the traced outlines on the 68 version look abysmal and insulting to the eye, the color choices used there aren't too bad imo (for the most part at least). The colors in the 1990 version are ok(?), but it's a bit too saturated in some areas; though the sky's color does look a lot better there than in the previously mentioned version. As for 8thManDVD's version, so far it's... alright. Not great, but just alright. It kinda gives me a 50s chuck jones vibe in how the colors are simple and vibrant. Porky's color choices bother me though. Like I get 8thMan wants to keep the outlines from porky's jacket intact, but I dunno.. whenever I see porky with a black jacket in these colorized shorts it always seems to tick me off. I just hope one day there's a colored version that not only keeps the OG outlines intact, but also has a color pallet that's accurate on porky and daffy, and one that's a good balance between vibrant and faded.
@Cartoonkal
@Cartoonkal 4 года назад
Once I heard 8th man dvd I had the same reaction as Matt.
@JustinCoasters
@JustinCoasters Год назад
So much of this video could be trimmed. Trevor laughing sounds like he's coughing a lung. Matt is significantly smarter sounding
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic Год назад
This is the problem with being popular in the autistic community: any time I stop just mindlessly stating facts in an unbroken sentence, you guys get a Ritalin fit. Don't get me started on your collective inability to understand jokes. A red flag for a fan of the funniest cartoon studio in history. I mean, I almost got arrested recreating the ending of Planet of the Apes in that skit at the end and nobody's said a word about it! Also, we stated, quite clearly, in the beginning of the video, that Matt is there BECAUSE he knows way more about this than me. Maybe you didn't hear it because you were distracted when I sighed, cleared my throat or did some other human thing.
@bkev93
@bkev93 4 года назад
I admit that I notice the frame drops with the redrawn works, but I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. They appear to be from significantly faded film stock which explains some of the very hot-pink reds. Might also explain brown Daffy. Impatient Patient however, there's definitely some... choice decisions there. What's up with the thick outlines?
@LegoandmoviereviewsBlogspot
@LegoandmoviereviewsBlogspot 5 лет назад
Thank you for mentioning 8th Man DVD! That channel is a joke.
@Champoy000
@Champoy000 3 года назад
Why ?
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 4 года назад
How many of you here think the redrawns look like they were colored in by 3 and 4 year old children? I do.
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 5 лет назад
I can't believe you didn't mention how some of the 1960s redrawn shorts were redrawn to get rid of racial caricatures (mostly blackface gags). Wholly Smoke and Jeepers Creepers are perfect exampled.
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 3 года назад
Were water colors used for the redrawns? Sure looks like it.
@antmusic
@antmusic 3 года назад
I heard that Monkees reference!
@texaveryjr.2881
@texaveryjr.2881 4 года назад
Best part 12:58
@austinkelly7841
@austinkelly7841 5 лет назад
Very cool. Never expected To see a quickie on this topic. These are quite the monstrosities. As for Matt Hunter, I love him! Always a thrill to have him on the show! Anyone know a way to contact him? I’ve got a question for him. Also, Trevor, I recall you saying in June that we can expect a video in October on the top 5 obscure Looney Tunes. Any idea when that’ll be arriving?
@MattHunterSays
@MattHunterSays 5 лет назад
Austin Kelly : Eh, what’s up doc?
@austinkelly7841
@austinkelly7841 5 лет назад
Matt Hunter Wow, is it truly you? This is quite the shock! I love GAC so much! I’ve got a question, though. One of the recent posts on the Facebook page for GAC shows the credits from a Looney Tunes related TV show, and a screenshot of Bugs Bunny holding up his showhat. What show exactly is that from? I’ve never seen those photos... Also, please continue with your posts comparing various analog masters, like what you did with Lickety Splat, Boston Quackie, etc.
@MattHunterSays
@MattHunterSays 5 лет назад
Those are the end credits for the 1960's "Bugs Bunny Show", and a piece of publicity artwork that promoted it.
@austinkelly7841
@austinkelly7841 5 лет назад
Matt Hunter Ohhhhhhhh! I was wondering where the photo came from! Thanks, Matt!
@alex9920ro
@alex9920ro 5 лет назад
A film shot in black n white should be left that way? This sounds very narrow-minded and quite snobish. A movie or a cartoon shouldnt have just one version. There is nothing wrong about colorization. A film, animated or not, can know different versions through the time and thats a good thing, to see it from a different perspective. We have to embrace the changes and the new things that come. I agree, that the 1960s redrawn versions are horrible, an eye torture, but most of the computer colorized toons done in the 1990s are stunning, especially the ones from the 1995 that look like they've made in Technicolor. And I know they put a lot of hard work and soul on it. The black n white versions you've presented arent quite the originals either, but rather digitally remastered versions of the old films. Me, as a Looney Tunes fan, I collected on a hard drive most of the episodes from the series, and I added both the computer colorized cartoons that I find rare and special and the original black n white into the collection.
@chrisrj9871
@chrisrj9871 5 лет назад
Question: Why would they have been painted in color, then shot in black and white, and then MEANT to be in black and white?
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 5 лет назад
They're painted in grey tones. Like you said, they're meant to be in black and white, so they painted it as such. That's why Matt and I are so angry. When you paint in grey tones, it's an artistic choice, and where it is the most noticeable is in the backgrounds because whereas before they were different shaded shapes to indicate solid stuff, when they're made into colorized versions, those shapes really need to be turned into drawings with outlines in order to work. In other words, with black and white, you can have shadows indicate negative space on a table, but when you paint a shadow a color like blue and the table itself is red it doesn't register as anything but random colorized shapes, not a table with a shadow, or for that matter, a red table with a blue shadow. These colorizations should act to prove that unless you're an artist you have no business making artistic decisions. The worst part is the executives behind it don't consider it an artistic decision. Then again, they don't consider anything. - trevor.
@GenerationXNews
@GenerationXNews 4 года назад
Loved this video!
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 лет назад
I wonder if computer colorized verisons are avalible in hd.
@kingandrewcecil348
@kingandrewcecil348 3 года назад
Unfortunately no, they're only available in SD, since the unrestored SD B&W prints from the original master negatives were used as the source material for the computer colorized versions.
@krmiistudios2479
@krmiistudios2479 Год назад
I mean you could just change the aspect ratio to 4.3
@andrewkful
@andrewkful 5 лет назад
Question. If you keep repeating, probably to make sure everyone knows it, that the Looney Tunes we know today aren't actually Looney Tunes.... why don't you use the title of self-proclaimed Merry Melodies critic?
@parousia15
@parousia15 5 лет назад
What software are you using to show the shorts?
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 5 лет назад
Quicktime
@TheRetroOreo
@TheRetroOreo 5 лет назад
Hey guys, I loved the video, but is it possible to do some editing to get rid of "uh"s and other pauses and meandering? I get that you guys are doing this off the cuff, but it becomes distracting when you're getting into a topic and become sidetracked, ultimately wasting time in getting back to the subject matter, (for example, towards the end when you were about to address your talk with John Minton). Honestly, just listening to the audio beforehand and cutting out unnecessary rambling would improve your videos immensely.
@keeleye7225
@keeleye7225 4 года назад
He does it a LOT in his Space Jam review, too - lots of asides OF asides, pauses, pauses to make an aside, etc. It becomes tedious to sit through to get to the meat of his critique.
@sarahdanielthecbrothers334
@sarahdanielthecbrothers334 2 года назад
Poky ig
@angelrivera318
@angelrivera318 5 лет назад
The red drawings are so crappy I called her the bootleg animation because they copy everything from the original animation. Look at Porky's Cafe Conrod taking a swing at a ant that's holding a pancake and he disappears brought him back and original animation he was still spinning around trying to catch the ant with the pancake on top of them
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 10 месяцев назад
In 1968, Warner Bros.-Seven Arts decided that kids weren't going to watch black and white cartoons anymore- at least, not the 1955 Guild Films (or 1961 Seven Arts Associated) TV prints of their recently reacquired 1930-'43 "Looney Tunes" library. They contracted with Fred Ladd's "Color Systems" company to "recolor" 78 Porky Pig black and white cartoons. In turn, Ladd hired a platoon of South Korean animators to "retrace" the original black and white film frames.......and for the most part, they sucked. They were on a tight schedule and an even tighter production budget- and there were *many* mistakes and errors involved in those retracings.
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 10 месяцев назад
No shit, Barry. We made a video about it. You may have heard about it, it's just up there a piece. Watch it maybe. As a general rule, nobody's clicking on a video and going right to the comments, which would be the only reason a Wikipedia article in the form of a comment like yours would be appropriate. You wanna flex? Do what me and Matt did. Make a video.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your response. I didn't see those WB-7A "recolored" cartoons until WNEW-TV in New York started scheduling them in 1972. They did that through 1988.
@Musicradio77Network
@Musicradio77Network 8 месяцев назад
@@fromthesidelinesAnd now, thanks to Discovery Family, they ran “Looney Tunes” every weekday at 1PM which is right before “My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic” came on. They ran three Porky Pig cartoons, all three were original B&W versions, no redrawns, no computer colorized, just the B&W originals. What’s interesting, they aired two cartoons like “Porky’s Bear Facts” and “Porky’s Cafe”, both were in the Public Domain for the first time on Discovery Family.
@cowboytomato745
@cowboytomato745 5 лет назад
epic
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