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The UK's Mystery Footpaths.... (That you CAN'T walk on!). 

Paul Whitewick
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....well at least England and Wales.
So we recently tried walking along some footpaths here in southern England. We noticed that there were quite a few that just stop. So we investigated further.
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@philipjones9458
@philipjones9458 Год назад
When I was Rights of Way officer for Wrexham County Borough Council in the late 90's we served notices on landowners in conjunction with Ramblers for obstructions. I attended court in a case where a farmer had threatened the use of a shotgun. We visited his land with police, erected signposts, removed obstructions etc. Very satisfying job. BTW the LA keeps the Definitive Maps of PROW which members of the public are entitled to access. Philip Jones.
@rooferization
@rooferization Год назад
I've been living in Germany for 30 years, coming back to Britain, I was absolutely shocked how many public footpaths are blocked by landowners deliberately. I was always told they were Queens (Kings) right of way and it was illegal to block access to the public.
@hens0w
@hens0w Год назад
Generally footpaths, byways etc. are on private property, but the land owner has a duty to maintain access. A sizable minority of land owners act illegality. Most roads are the er-Kings own highway, and we drunkenly saunter down the center of them.
@markuskruger2102
@markuskruger2102 Год назад
In Germany sometimes same Situation, public path ends on Farm or a fence, maybe with watchdogs. In Germany we have Wegerecht and öffentliches Interesse........ Berechtigtes Interesse der Überwegung / Anliegerstrasse is the miracle Green card for trespassing....
@Rail_Focus
@Rail_Focus Год назад
Considering so little of the UK is accessible it's important we protect as many rights of way as possible. Great video
@UkSapyy
@UkSapyy Год назад
It's important we change the law back.
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous Год назад
I'd suggest that a lot the UK is very accessible (compared to other places I have been) with its public rights of way mapped and legislated for - then completely agree with you that this is a piece of our heritage that does indeed need protecting.
@johndavies1090
@johndavies1090 Год назад
Classic example from near Stafford some years ago - a footpath running between two different parishes. One parish - clear as a bell, well waymarked. The moment you hit the parish boundary it disappeared; buried under impenetrable nettle and briar growth. Guess which Parish council was in the landowner's pockets?
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 Год назад
It brings to mind the time I was walking across Blubberhouses Moor, camera in hand along a permissive route after the official public footpath had come to a stop in the middle of the Moor. Moor that was also open access land. I was followed by a gentleman toting a shotgun with his dog. He eventually caught me up and asked me what I thought I was doing walking across his land. Intimidation was his game to start with. I then politely explained that I was on a permitted route on open access land. He didn't like it when I explained the legal position and showed him the OS Map. I then received a lecture about protection of grouse chick's and nests. I found it hilarious seeing as it was two weeks past the 12th August and shooting season was well underway. In the end he gave up and walked off chuntering under his breath.
@edwardhackett-jones8126
@edwardhackett-jones8126 Год назад
If it was a permissive footpath it could only exist with the landowners consent and implementation. Either you weren’t talking to the landowner, or you weren’t on the path, I should think.
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 Год назад
@Edward Hackett-Jones It was a gamekeeper. The majority of Blubberhouses Moor is open access if you look on the OS 1:25,000 Map for Lower Wharfedale and the Washburn Valley. Why it has a permissive path when it's already open access is strange. Either way, as I showed him on the GPS, I was very close. I would add that a few years later, I actually ran into the chap who owns the shooting rights in Timble Ings Woods. We chatted for a while, during the course of which I told him the story of being chased by the gamekeeper. He was rather embarrassed, but he apologised. He asked for the chaps name. Sadly, I couldn't give what I never had. I know my rights, and I can read a map and use GPS.
@barrieainge4937
@barrieainge4937 Год назад
Fascinating video, Paul and Rebecca, having lived in Trowbridge and now Swindon, I know the paths you referred to near Devizes quite well. It's a sad fact that some farmers (not all) seem to have little respect for footpaths that have been in place for hundreds of years. Quite a few times I have come across footpaths across farmers' fields that have been plowed out, diverted or even blocked. We all need to work together and preserve what we have.
@edwardhackett-jones8126
@edwardhackett-jones8126 Год назад
Farmers are quite within their rights to plough a path. It’s not ideal, obviously, but it’s a significant hassle to leave a strip across a field uncultivated. The public would do well to remember that they’re on private land, and the landowner suffers expenses by the existence of public rights of way. Most landowners are fine with that, but can be frustrated by the behaviour of a minority of users. This is when they do things they shouldn’t.
@trevorWilkinson
@trevorWilkinson Год назад
I went on a walk with some friends last month and was following the footpaths on Open-street-map. My friends wanted to avoid a path that went through a field of cows, I saw that there was another that passed by a farmhouse. The farmer came out to tell us that we were on Private land, despite it being the way through to a crossroads on the public footpath. Thankfully having watched your videos I knew how to report this to the local council who confirmed that it was a public footpath. I don't know how many of these landowners are ignorant of the rights of way laws or doing it maliciously.
@Swalkerfilm
@Swalkerfilm Год назад
Some years ago I rambled across the UK (and Scotland, I did go there) and I'm really jealous of your public footpath system. I found it amazing to be able to walk straight across fields on paths only marked on the OS map by a dotted line and a signpost and stile here and there. That is very rare here in the Netherlands. Last year I found a century old walking guide from the 1920's for a multi day walk. I had planned to walk it to see how the world had changed but found just by comparing the maps in the guide to modern ones that it was impossible. It turns out very few of the old footpaths survived, most have disappeared completely without a trace even here in this rural province. And a major part of the quiet lanes of those days have become busy tarmac roads (though often with a separate bicycle lane).
@sunjamm222
@sunjamm222 Год назад
In the eighties I use to be part of the TRF and trying to sort out what was a road and what was a footpath or bridleway. Yet we would be on a road marked on the right maps it would end and be a footpath for about 100yards the start back up as a road or rupp/boat. As you said was it the landowners this time trying to stop wheel traffic. Plus some stopped paths for walkers so they could use them for rural sports.
@benwiles7433
@benwiles7433 Год назад
These videos are a lot better than most TV series.
@awelonstudio
@awelonstudio Год назад
There better than everything that's on tv today.
@Deebz270
@Deebz270 Год назад
@@awelonstudio Agreed, they're [they are] better...
@JoOtterH
@JoOtterH Год назад
There are several such dead-end footpaths/bridleways in my area Notts/Lincs. As you mentioned the original recording is probably at fault but in many cases the problem is caused by the construction of (now abandoned RAF bases. The paths start, stop at the former perimeter fence and resume on the other side leaving a gap of up to 2km. At some stage a bridleway ran up the driveway of my house, across a field and then through a ford. My family moved here in 1962 and the bridleway was blocked before then. I have no objection to it being reopened except the field is now my neighbour's garden and the ford is, following flood prevention work, about a metre deep. It could be an expensive reopening!
@nicevideomancanada
@nicevideomancanada Год назад
What an interesting video. I have never seen anything like this before. I'm an Englishman now living in Canada since 1980. I love the British Countryside. now I'm going to subscribe.
@scottc1589
@scottc1589 Год назад
Well done! I think this is one of the most important videos you've ever made!
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains Год назад
Great Video, still makes me think about that private road in Salt, Staffordshire that says Private Road, but you look on Bing and just check Ramblers that it a footpath.
@HighlandMike325
@HighlandMike325 Год назад
Walked on a path in South Yorkshire last year which involved crossing the ECML railway on the OS map. The crossing had a push button intercom with instructions to press for permission to cross. When pressed the guy on the intercom wanted to know why we needed to cross, even asking why we were on the path! Was begrudgingly allowed to cross eventually
@matrixtech29
@matrixtech29 Год назад
Push this button for us to tell you not to push this button.
@pfjths
@pfjths Год назад
Living in the area where much of your video was shot in SW Wiltshire, the blocking of RoW is a major problem. However, by causing a fuss with Wiltshire Council they have done a fair amount to get the landowner and tenant farmers to clear the obstructions so that they are once again usable. I must point out that not all landowners are a problem and many actively keep their footpaths open and well maintained. You can report issues in Wiltshire on "My Wilts" and they will take action - at some stage!
@debbiehenri345
@debbiehenri345 Год назад
A public footpath ends at the corner of my garden, here in rural Scotland, but does not lead across it, nor does it connect onto any other footpaths nearby. The reason for its existence is - it was designed to give children living in the few houses here a shortcut across farmland to the school some miles away.
@minuteman4394
@minuteman4394 Год назад
Yes you are correct. foot paths mostly gave a shortcut in the days when most people walked as their primary means of getting around and were used for such things as connecting a small hamlet to such things a a school, church,public house etc. the reason footpaths just stop is generally because the original reason for the path is no longer there but the footpath is still a legal right of way.
@Blackburnian737
@Blackburnian737 Год назад
I had a few problems with OS maps vs on the ground reality walking in England this year. I studied abroad in Scotland and it was so nice that they have right to roam there so you didn't really have to worry about trespassing. Of course even in England and Wales it's so much better than what we have in the U.S.!
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад
But surely in the US you have the Constitutionally Guaranteed Right to freely walk anywhere out of rifle range??!! 🙄😁
@hoppes9658
@hoppes9658 Год назад
That’s rich. Half the state of Michigan is state and federal land.
@peteryoung4957
@peteryoung4957 Год назад
Thank you for high lighting a problem with rights of way. There are probably more dead-end footpaths than you imagine.
@barrybutler6375
@barrybutler6375 8 месяцев назад
Well done guys for making your noise, THANK YOU, ❤❤ 👍👍
@madattaktube
@madattaktube Год назад
The most memorable footpath to nowhere I found was one that was marked as continuing on the map, but in reality just led into the bottom of a lake with no way round.
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 Год назад
These old rights of way are vital in our modern world, people need to exercise, be stimulated etc...great video for bringing these issues to notice 👍👍
@oliverghunter
@oliverghunter Год назад
Yes, my first "first like"! I love this film - maps and mysteries! There's a few of these paths and bridleways that "just stop" near where I live in Northants. I've often wondered how this could happen, so thanks for your suggestions!!
@uksteves
@uksteves Год назад
Interesting video. Back in the day, people didn't use these paths simply to have a nice walk - they'd surely have served a purpose, and led to somewhere. We have a path near to where I live, that takes you across some heathland, before stopping abruptly at the point where it once crossed a now disused railway line (littered with private property and "end of footpath" signs). You can see the path continue onwards for another mile or more towards somewhere useful (and find its route marked as FP on old OS maps), but you can't walk it, because the land owner decided many years back, to claim it as private property. Rights of way people at the council seem largely uninterested, as its been this way for so long.
@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835
@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835 Год назад
That was fascinating. Living close to Kinder Scout, scene of the Mass Trespass, it seems that in some respects we are heading back to those days by stealth.
@SharpblueCreative
@SharpblueCreative Год назад
Do you watch Patrick Dickinson’s videos? He wild camps up there.
@aedanjmcghie
@aedanjmcghie Год назад
Move to Scotland.
@johnacton5417
@johnacton5417 Год назад
I worked with Benny Rothman who led that trespass in the 1930's. I believe the ramblers recreate this walk every year and its lead by , I believe, Benny's son.
@gibfear
@gibfear Год назад
Shame "the ramblers" that exist thanks to trespassing, are so anti cyclists and horse riders..... No it's OK for US to get access to land, but not you, you aren't miserable enough.... 🙂
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin Год назад
Now we’re out the eu and the country is slipping back into the dark ages, I can imagine that all the disaster capitalists buying up farmland won’t want the great unwashed trooping around on their investment. I reckon a lot of paths will be blocked and councils won’t have the money to fight it / enforce it.
@jimcarr8425
@jimcarr8425 Год назад
The situation is worse with byways. Wiltshire has an extensive network of byways but several of them just end or suddenly are downgraded for no apparent reason. And don't get me started with CRoW - we lost a load of byways in 2006 when we thought we still had time to ensure their survival.
@WiltshireByways
@WiltshireByways Год назад
At least your comments aren't being downgraded!
@catshoemike
@catshoemike Год назад
A very useful video, well explained. I was riding my pushbike on "white roads" yesterday here in North Wales. It's interesting, on the OS map they were shown as white roads but with green dots, which the map defines as "other routes with public access". One of them is even marked as a cycle route, although confusingly the signage on the ground was the green arrow for footpath, nothing more. I've tonight had a look on the Conwy County Definitive map, and there is no trace of them at all. In fairness though, the Definitive Map says that it records Footpaths, Bridleways and Byways (Restricted and BOATs), so I guess these white roads fall into that gap. I was funnily enough tonight already looking at other local areas on the OS map with a view to more bicycle rides. I tend to take the view that if it starts out as a Byway or Bridleway but then becomes a white road, then you could probably infer a right of access. Not always so easy though when it goes through a farmyard before it hits the public tarmac road.
@boboneleg
@boboneleg Год назад
Good video Paul and Rebecca. Thanks for showing the absurdity of some rights of way in England and Wales. Don't even get me started on the illegal obstructions :{
@markgallaway5574
@markgallaway5574 Год назад
I've explored the lanes and byways of the East of England by walking cycling and in my land rover. When offroad I was always considerate to other users (although that was not always given back) and never drove on a track if it was damaged or was in a condition where driving on it would damage the surface. Obstruction by farmers was always a pain in the butt. I once drove 5km down a narrow green only to find concrete blocks has been dropped at the end. There was no way I could turn around without damaging the farmer's crop and reversing was too dangerous. Worse still only about 200m up we could see the main road and the byway continued unobstructed. In the end, we winched one of the blocks out of the way which allowed access for horse and foot traffic as well.
@Foremarkex
@Foremarkex Год назад
I used to live near a few; mapped in the 1950's, they used Railway bridges to cross rivers, and with the bridges removed in the 1960's, the paths go no-where.
@mikeakhurst1855
@mikeakhurst1855 Год назад
Love the way you get an idea and just run with it. Keep it up both!
@Thegreek1331
@Thegreek1331 Год назад
The fascination with this is fascinating!
@kevinmoore.7426
@kevinmoore.7426 Год назад
I love you guys !
@timothyduncan3457
@timothyduncan3457 Год назад
Some excellent points made there. However, on your "White Lanes" point and if I remember correctly from the old OS 50k map key. A pair of solid lines denotes a metalled road, that's one with tarmac on it! And the colour indicates either the class (M, A, B or Classified) or White a road width of less than 10 feet. The problem is we all use Google or SatNav nowadays which just copies the OS mapping base but doesn't elaborate with the key or what it all means!
@neildaniel8232
@neildaniel8232 Год назад
I'm a mountain biker who lives in Wales and it's a massive frustration when out in the wilds. Thankfully the Welsh Assembly has been conducting a survey to see about having similar access laws to Scotland and the overwhelming response from all parties was to reform the system to make it much more representative of how the Rights of Way are used today. It's all on hold though thanks to the Pandemic but that means that nothing is being enforced with regards to who can use what (blockages and lack of maintenance are still being enforced though) so it's essentially turned into the Scottish system by default: anyone on foot, bicycle or horse can go on any obvious path (whether created by man or animal) but has to respect other users ie Don't Be A Dick. Works incredibly well as everyone just gets on with it. It's always strange when going to England and having to deal with the stupid rules you have, landowners blocking paths, ones that end abruptly and/or change designation randomly.
@davie941
@davie941 Год назад
hello again Paul and Rebecca , another very interesting video , really well done and thank you guys 😊
@marcdebruin2425
@marcdebruin2425 Год назад
I suspect the mapmakers to have looked at each other and say; ok let’s grab a pint and put some random lines on the map and see who we can confuse. 😄 Nice video guys! Interesting subject. 👍🏻
@fighne
@fighne Год назад
Glad you're pushing the ramblers support
@bruno-id1wh
@bruno-id1wh Год назад
I know you've been to Savernake Forest. There are 2 paths that just stop, to the south of the forest. One climbs up from Wolfhall bridge over the Kennet and Avon Canal and stops by the "Deer Park". The other is along the path of the Roman road (that does that weird loop around Tidcombe and meets another at the top of the forest: as it comes from Crotfton up towards Tottenham House, it just stops. I looked at the Ramblers old paths page, and when you look at the map from 100 years ago, other paths joined them. Very interesting stuff! :D
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Год назад
Now that rings a bell.
@jamesminiaturespace
@jamesminiaturespace Год назад
"bull in field" - is all the information I need to turn around.
@denken3225
@denken3225 Год назад
I thought that the 2026 date was already formally removed, so thanks for making people aware that it hasn't
@robertmaitland09
@robertmaitland09 Год назад
Fully aware of this issue. I've been with the Ramblers for years now, they're a great campaigning organisation and i would recommend people join.
@liquidsonly
@liquidsonly Год назад
Make content about this whenever you can. It;s important to keep those byways open.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 Год назад
I have a Swiss army knife with a great saw blade. Several landowners are deliberately letting brambles grow over stiles to prevent walkers. My friend Victorinox has been very helpful getting through these stiles and opening up to the public. It's a RIGHT of way, not a kind offer from whichever oligarch claims dominion of the land. There's a few which during some periods are blocked and diverted, these landowners are the good ones, those diversions are to offer access while livestock are grazing or the land is rendered unsafe by some weather events. That lane you're seen walking near Worton, I ride it frequently. It's usually clear and does follow the old map. I'm uncertain why it was blocked. I'm very local based in Steeple Ashton, barely a jump from Keevil. I often cycle to Devizes, beautiful trails in the area.
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence
Really great idea for a video and a worthwhile campaign. Well done!
@MichaelSebastianTodd
@MichaelSebastianTodd Год назад
brilliant video
@dirkjordy9point714
@dirkjordy9point714 Год назад
Slightly different spin on access. I work for a utility company and have easement and wayleaves to back me up when trying to get onto private land. Ideally we like to work with our landowners and give notice, but sometimes need immediate access, much to the annoyance of some of them. Old school farmers are fine, but when I've been denied entry to rural land owned by New Money Londoners, Russian Oligarchs, Middle East Royals etc, I normally find a way to sneak in somewhere else, much to their annoyance! Only had guns pulled on me twice,(Once by foreign owner and once US Military. Thought it would be ok to access a US ammo dump without asking!), but all good!!!
@peterweston1356
@peterweston1356 Год назад
You are doing important work. Keep it up…
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Год назад
Thanks Peter
@JerryFlint6
@JerryFlint6 Год назад
Very informative video. Coincidentally, something I have been researching locally. Thanks!
@RichardFelstead1949
@RichardFelstead1949 Год назад
All roads lead to .................................Rebecca and Paul. Great video guys. All the best from Australia.
@shirleylynch7529
@shirleylynch7529 Год назад
Fascinating video. Thank you for showing us this. Very interesting and informative.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Год назад
Thanks Shirley
@DavidCollison
@DavidCollison Год назад
Great content, analysis and insights - thank you both for a fascinating video. 01/01/2026 really isn't that far off.
@Spondre
@Spondre Год назад
Last month on a visit to the UK I encountered one of these "gaps" populated by an allegedly angry bull in a field. While walking through the field and chatting with the bull I was challenged by the landowner who informed me I was in danger of being charged by the bull. The bull promptly charged the land owner. He raised no further objections to me continuing through the field. I do wish I captured that on video.
@davidsedlickas8222
@davidsedlickas8222 Год назад
Superb filming and commentaries Thanks for your time and efforts to produce your volgs Keep safe warm dry and virus free both
@malcolmdalrymple1779
@malcolmdalrymple1779 Год назад
Interesting and very important. Thanks for raising this.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Год назад
4:55 Probably most of the time they were easily 'mislead' by the land-owners!
@iain-duncan
@iain-duncan Год назад
So interesting to see as an American. We don't have rights of way like this leading through other people's property typically, but we have absolutely unending numbers of large nature reserves. Definitely different!
@andrewhWTL
@andrewhWTL Год назад
In rural Powys there are expansive quiet areas with lots of rights of way on the maps, but so little used that they can't easily be traced or followed on the ground. It makes planning walks and exploring the area on foot very difficult, even without the problem of dead ends and the status of OS "white lanes". These rights of way issues should be much higher up the agenda for all interested in access to the countryside.
@forkliftofzen5318
@forkliftofzen5318 Год назад
Here in the USA we have a simple railway crossing rule when crossing at some undefined point. Look both ways and try not to get run over. No need to overcomplicate it.
@alexritchie4586
@alexritchie4586 Год назад
I was walking up to Haytor from Bovey Tracey this Summer and was very angry to find a private landowner had cut off over half of the Templer Way. Reported it to the park authorities but never heard anything back. Certainly hoping they've gone and had some choice, stern words with the landowner.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick Год назад
Well thats shocking. Thanks for reporting.
@wildstagadventures
@wildstagadventures Год назад
I have looked into lost pathways before and have always wondered about roman roads that are shown as 'course of'. Are these to be recorded to allow them to open up again as footpaths, or is there something else stipulating why you cannot walk on these paths?
@markthompson3577
@markthompson3577 Год назад
my sunday/monday is now complete ......another awesome video .....!!!!
@joekibble3200
@joekibble3200 Год назад
Love the educational format! Would you be able to do a video on BOAT's (Byways Open to All Traffic) as the number of walkers that don't understand these is phenomenal? When we drive 4x4's down a BOAT a lot of walkers get angry when we have as much right of way as they do on that specific track. I think it would really help the 4x4 and walking cultures to mix in a more harmonious way.
@lizzieburgess674
@lizzieburgess674 Год назад
No motor vehicle has 'as much right' on a BOAT - or any other public road (M-status excepted) as a pedestrian, cyclist or horse rider/driver has. They use the road _as of right_; you drivers of mechanically-propelled vehicles -be they EV, ICE Oor even steam or gas powered, must obtain permission (by means of licencing, testing etc) to do so.
@Crispvs1
@Crispvs1 3 месяца назад
Back in the 1950s and 60s, my mother's cousin used to get out and walk as many rights of way as possible, as the rules as my mother knew them were that if a right of way was not walked for a year, the farmer was permitted to fence it off.
@john3Lee
@john3Lee Год назад
Local councils are well advised not to "mess" with the ramblers association !!
@radman8321
@radman8321 Год назад
Council rights of way officers aren't interested. I have submitted several routes that have historical evidence but they won't take any action at all. They don't want to pay for the court costs when the landowners say "it was only ever an occupation road".
@syncrosimon
@syncrosimon Год назад
Brilliant thank you🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@ccityplanner1217
@ccityplanner1217 Год назад
You two are so tame.
@professornil.
@professornil. Год назад
Mudflood. I've found filled in railway cuttings near where I live, no explanation anywhere...
@viramann
@viramann Год назад
Parish councils had to create the definitive map each to their own in 52'. A lot of the random ends to PROW were to do with land owners having a seat on the parish council and getting their way
@leeedsonetwo
@leeedsonetwo Год назад
Very clever editing and fun
@johnhockenhull2819
@johnhockenhull2819 Год назад
There are thousands of these dead end public footpaths. I’ve been told by my local prow team that when the footpaths were recorded people asked the landowners if there was a path. Many said no so you get a dead end. Also, like you say, many footpaths end at parish or county boundaries - because different people did different parishes and counties and there was no coordination. I’ve even found public footpaths that are on the Ordnance survey maps and the definitive maps but are surrounded by fields with no public footpaths or public access and so are impossible to walk. It’s all a mess.
@antonioveritas
@antonioveritas Год назад
Near where we live there is an official fingerpost at the side of the road that points down a track and it reads "public bridleway, cul de sac." The track now just runs for a few hundred yards to a few big houses and stops, but the older ordnance survey map shows it continuing over the fields until it reaches the other road on the far side. When we were on holiday somewhere, we saw a nice new wooden fingerpost that indicated a public footpath running down an alley between two houses. We climbed the stile and followed it, only to find that after about 100 yards it stopped at a six foot high wooden fence! No gates led off it to service the houses it ran between, so it was completely useless!
@AndrewJohnson-ur3lw
@AndrewJohnson-ur3lw Год назад
At one time around where I am there used to be a local group called the footpath group who used to walk every path on the map so that they could claim they are still in use. If they were a bit overgrown they would chat with the appropriate folks to make them accessible. They would ensure there were no dead end rights of way.
@lucasg5094
@lucasg5094 Год назад
This stuff is fascinating. All the history in Europe and the old roads etc is something I would love to walk on. Same things happen in the states with land owners illegally blocking roads and putting up signs on public right of ways. We do our best to drive them, map them, and turn it in to our states natural resources office.
@simonrichardson7808
@simonrichardson7808 Год назад
really enjoyed this one; and straight onto that missing b'ways too.....
@kevinrkinsella
@kevinrkinsella Год назад
“Green Laning” using 4x4 vehicles has contributed to, and complicated, the situation. Most 4x4 enthusiasts are responsible but they become invisible once idiots churn a lane up, making it impassible. Landowners will be very slow to repair damage, potentially waiting until they have need of access before doing so. Accidentally blocking a repaired lane with stored kit, or forgetting to leave an access point when refencing where a little used path crosses a field boundary, is understandable; albeit wrong. Network Rail have no authority to chain and padlock a footpath gate. If they want to prevent unauthorised motor vehicle crossing use by casual users then a side gate should be provided: please get in touch with NR to advise them they have blocked a footpath. I’m guessing that the hope was that no one would notice.
@TrailMixRunning
@TrailMixRunning Год назад
There are two of these near us. The first is a dead-end footpath that ends alongside Dundas Covert (SP672618), south of Nobottle in Northamptonshire. The second is a byway that then turns into an 'other routes with public access' and then it stops completely, 400 m short of a road near Little Brington (SP651633), although judging by the, "Please keep your dog on a lead," signs on the gate at the far end, I'm not the only one who carries on down there. I met two horse riders looking very confused as all the official signs just disappear. Both of these are on Explorer 223.
@dilwyn1
@dilwyn1 Год назад
@Paul and Rebecca ... Llanarmon D.C, in North Wales has a bridal way that heads of up a beautiful mountainside, and stops at a stile. Ok My horse can jump it, but can't proceed further on the footpath 🥲
@looneytoons2878
@looneytoons2878 Год назад
Please do a video about WW2 concrete bunkers in the UK
@kenhurley2361
@kenhurley2361 Год назад
Hi Paul & Rebecca, Here in New Zealand we have Paper roads, An unformed legal road (or 'paper road') is a legally-recognised road that is undeveloped or partly formed, but provides public access to a particular area but many maps do not show where they are.
@colinbooth2421
@colinbooth2421 Год назад
Great to see you two getting political. The ROW network needs all the exposure and constructive action that it can get.
@eggy77
@eggy77 Год назад
There's a couple of PFs near me that just stop abruptly where the council/parish boundaries are, either one council/parish has recorded/updated things correctly or one hasn't. The landscape has changed over the years due to mining, but one of the PFs I've never known to be a right of way in 40 years despite it always being on the os map, in the 80s you wouldn't have dared set foot in it due to colliery works, plus there was no signage/gap in fence at all. No they are landscaping the old tip and making it public accessible they have included the right of way running through it, but the footpath still doesn't actually go anywhere according to the maps. Fortunately they are planning on making an old railway line into a greenway which links up nicely with it.
@gavinreid2741
@gavinreid2741 Год назад
In the fells of the Pennines and Lake District some paths lead up on to the moors then just stop. In these locations it is not a problem as the land is open access.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 Год назад
There is a Path quite near me (In Derbyshire) that crosses a very steep field that just stops halfway!!! Great Vid 🙂🤔🚂🚂🚂
@skashax777x
@skashax777x Год назад
as someone with a mild interest in green laning, the cow troughs that were blocking the pathway would have been placed by a farmer to prevent cars or horses from utilizing a public right of way as they don't the public near to their land or they see it as their land, this is potentially an illegal act as it is blocking public access, but it is never prosecuted.
@loc4725
@loc4725 Год назад
We have that problem down here in Kent. A public bridleway with a locked gate across it, footpaths which get ploughed and a right of way though the garden of a large detached house, not that you can reach that end as they've also got a electric fence but _only_ across the footpath.
@philipjones9458
@philipjones9458 Год назад
Report it to the LA they have the powers to deal with it.
@Swindondruid2
@Swindondruid2 Год назад
A "tendency to downgrade" is sadly an understatement. In the 1980s there were loads of Byways Open To All Traffic around Hampshire (they were called Roads Used As A Public Path back then). Now they are almost all bridleways or footpaths or simply don't exist at all. Very sad. Great video, as always.
@Alan_UK
@Alan_UK Год назад
Unfortunately many people with SUVs and motorbikes are using these byways for fun and they end up being very rutted and when it rains full of mud, making them impassable to walkers and even horse riders. Downgrading to bridleways or footpaths seems sensible.
@Swindondruid2
@Swindondruid2 Год назад
@@Alan_UK For every mile of RUPP in the 1980s there were at least ten miles of footpaths. If walkers keep to footpaths, and horse riders to bridlepaths, they don't need to use BOATS. So there is no reason to downgrade at all.
@AbsoluteTVYT
@AbsoluteTVYT Год назад
There's a foot path north of Brighton, near Hassocks and Albourne, which supposedly goes up some small steps through what is now a 7 foot wooden fence, across six lanes of 70 mph traffic on the A23 and the central reservation, and up the other side of the A-road. Umm, no thanks.
@eastwoodsadventures
@eastwoodsadventures Год назад
Great video, don't know if it was just a glitch but your end screen video link was missing
@russellmardling7156
@russellmardling7156 Год назад
Loving your videos. I love the idea if walking along lost railway lines, Roman roads etc. I have a possible suggestion. It's called the Hendon Factory platform in North London. It's a short lost railway spur and platform that used to service the Aircraft factory at Hendon. I don't know if it's Jeff that would do this but hopefully it's an idea worth investigating. Thanks for the videos!
@DavidJones-kn9zb
@DavidJones-kn9zb Год назад
Fascinating program on a problem that does not happen in Australia. In Oz land is either private or public.
@dianespears6057
@dianespears6057 Год назад
Very helpful. Thank you.
@chrisburridge-barney5042
@chrisburridge-barney5042 Год назад
The restricted byway example is particularly curious, as it looks to be only accessible from the footpath crossing it, so how is one to exercise one's right to traverse it by cycle, on horseback or in a horse-drawn carriage?
@davependrill2897
@davependrill2897 Год назад
Great video.
@rty135
@rty135 3 месяца назад
Well in Hampshire there are landowners who pa over loudspeakers when people walk through marked footpaths ;to turnaround as its private property
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 месяца назад
Where abouts??
@davidborunsky6681
@davidborunsky6681 Год назад
Never forget the glorious Battle of Berkhamsted Common.
@tofinobeach7093
@tofinobeach7093 Год назад
Landowners taking the piss and liabilities who would have thought
@pt9101
@pt9101 Год назад
This was an incredibility interesting video the speculation on the route cause was thought provoking.
@mrexiges1
@mrexiges1 Год назад
Thank you for the video……. Here in Suffolk there are lots of these vanishing bridleways which I ride along to discover that they have become footpaths Of course I find an alternative route !! The blocked route is something for the council to deal with firmly it is totally out of order by the farmer ! He can be ordered to remove the obstruction. As a land owner with footpath access I have to maintain a clear route for users . Keep up the good work.
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