The Ultimate $5,000 Apple Pro Display XDR Review!

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Apple's Pro Display costs $4,999 and doesn't include a stand but they herald it as a bargain. But is it? Snazzy Labs' host Quinn Nelson seeks professional advice in this Pro Display XDR Review.
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Apple announced the #6K #ProDisplayXDR alongside the new cheese-grater Mac Pro at WWDC 2019 in San Jose, California. After six months of waiting, it finally hit the market in December of 2019. Rather than rush and put a messy review up as soon as we could, we have spent the last 40 days with it putting it through its paces and seeing if it can really compete against the Sony, Eizo, vs Flanders Scientific monitors of the world. We break down the 6K resolution, connectivity issues, GPU limitations, the $1,000 monitor stand's strengths and weaknesses, the display panel's viewing angles, color accuracy, luminance, light rolloff, vignetting issues, HDR capabilities and alleged 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio. This review is a long one that's jam packed with content so sit back and enjoy!

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@TDPEquinox 4 года назад

When the thumbnail says 13:37 but the video is 13:36.. I see what you TRIED to do there, but RU-vid had other plans.

@snazzy 4 года назад

I FEEL MEGA JIPPED

@butterbertha9439 4 года назад

its youtube, it does it to every video

@Crlarl 4 года назад

It's 13:37 for me.

@AnesuC 4 года назад

On mobile it's 13:37

@artixskillz7636 4 года назад

What’s the significance of 1337?

@Behrdie 4 года назад

I love the balance between hard figures/stats and the “this is basically what that means.” Solid review as always.

@snazzy 4 года назад

Thanks!

@lucasrem 4 года назад

Brendan Murphy not for noobs, creative people only!

@BKdefr 4 года назад

"Just an IPS with local dimming and all the problems that come with it." HDTVTest

@galihprabasidi8498 4 года назад

Yes, that is true, but do you actually watch this video? Because he also mentioned the problem with this monitor near the end.

@Boswd 4 года назад

@@galihprabasidi8498 yeah in a wish washy way though as like he doesn't really want to upset Apple or something

@BKdefr 4 года назад

Yeah I watched it, and there is a "pro" (freelancer) who already bought some of them trying to rationalise to us why you would need those. Then hes repeating over and over this would be a choice for mid size studios. But for this budget you got better options, dont you?

@jhanninnen 4 года назад

12"

@BKdefr 4 года назад

@@jhanninnen thats a huge...dvd player!

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Just wanted to say that your videos sound really great. Thanks for caring about sound!

@snazzy 4 года назад

That new lav finally got here! Gonna start using it this week. :)

@gdrriley420 4 года назад

I wish they made an updated version of the old Thunderbolt Display/ LED cinema display using a 4k or 5k imac screen.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

GDR Riley I was hoping for that too. :(

@datachu 4 года назад

Yeah I loved those displays, I don't even own a Mac anymore but I still use one at work with an adapter, the picture is excellent. And they seem to work without a driver now in Windows, not sure what happened they just kinda... Suddenly did after an update (back in 2018 I think), now I can adjust the brightness/etc without Bootcamp installed.

@gdrriley420 4 года назад

@@datachu I used them daily at school for 3 years. I'm thinking about grabbing a used one for my video editor/GF. For about 200$ used they look to be a good deal

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

@@datachu This is good to know. Thank you for sharing this. (:

@huggyuk 4 года назад

I’m not so sure..... There’ll be way too many nit pickers

@zollotech 4 года назад

Great video Quinn. It answered all my questions and some I didn’t know I had.

@Prettytony0627 4 года назад

zollotech hey man. Love your videos. You should check out HDTV test video review of this monitor. The “pro” display still has all of the issues that come with IPS displays.

@mikaelhuostila4005 4 года назад

It's still mind-boggling to think that Snazzy doesn't have a million subs yet 🤯

@geogmz8277 4 года назад

Thank you for pointing that out. I noticed I wasn't subscribed (some how) but I fixed it.

@delavago5379 4 года назад

Oh crap I didn't notice I wasn't subscribed. Fixed

@KcinTelliam4595 4 года назад

Great video! It’s nice seeing someone post something about this display and talk to an actual colorist and not just talk about how this is good for consumer level stuff.

@samuelsalt3890 4 года назад

This channel has good reviews, he's an Apple Fanboy, but he's honest Keep up the good work!

@bluephreakr 4 года назад

He's less of an Apple fangirl than he use to be. I mean, some weeks back He talked about _Linux_ and discusses hackintoshes because even _he_ knows for most people who want to use Apple's OS, the hardware investment is a big pill to swallow that many, unsurprisingly can't.

@moritzh6876 4 года назад

Simply the best video about the XDR, period. Just like with the Mac Pro videos, you manage to combine the facts everyone else is repeating in their videos with good and relatable insights. Top notch!

@Dreyzie 4 года назад

snazzy if i didnt tell you man, you are one of my favorite

@snazzy 4 года назад

Drey Jay 🤗

@testthisfordecficiencies 4 года назад

The LG panel alone costs 1500 USD for these.

@GO2CUT 3 года назад

I'd buy that, without the apple logo!

@mkedrones 4 года назад

With the indy-filmmaker market becoming so big, there is a shift away from those older brands that Denver mentions. I would say the closest feeling competitor to the Apple XDR would be some of the new Neon line of displays from Atomos. It is priced way less than those (of similar size), but the Neon line isn’t built specifically for Macs with a the ports and what not that the XDR has.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

MKE Drones Good point and thank you.

@gdrriley420 4 года назад

asus has got the new pro art line that may have some close models.

@Tigerex966 4 года назад

And....ASUS which has also been killing it with mini LED 32" HDR monitors under $5000, with stand and matte finish at 4K.

@alexjolley5112 4 года назад

All praise Quinn, the Teller of Truths in a world of Apple fans who are too blind to product shortcomings because of a brand name. Thanks for always keeping it real and snazzy.

@meaphotographica 4 года назад

Best reviewer ever. Always looking forward to your opinion. No matter how late it is compared to other you tubers

@disco4178 4 года назад

This looks like a nice general purpose display, but isn't scaling not desirable when coloring (IE: you want native resolution of whatever the final output is)? Also, notice that when he mentions the FALD issues with star fields, we didn't see the monitor displaying star fields...

@kejisworld9252 4 года назад

I love how I watch these crazy tech videos knowing damn well I have $30 in my accountv

@reddcube 4 года назад

Asus is releasing a new ProArt monitor soon to compete with the Apple’s Pro XDR. Will we get a video on the PA32UCG?

@allansh828 4 года назад

4K is too low res

@Niels_f2704 4 года назад

Allan Sh No one would really see any difference. Meanwhile the Asus has double the local dimming as the Pro display and a refreshrate of 120 Hz with the same 1600 nits of peak brightness. It’s gonna be cheaper.

@allansh828 4 года назад

Nielsf2704 32 inch should have 8K. 6K is barely acceptable. 4K is way too low.

@Niels_f2704 4 года назад

How close are you even sitting to your monitor? On a laptop I already don’t see any difference between 1080p and 4k. Most nowadays content is still at 4K. If you want 8K you should get the Dell Ultrasharp 8K monitor.

@clickbaitpro 4 года назад

@@allansh828 Nah 6k and 8k are too low resolution, I need atleast 12k

@WitheredSpirit 4 года назад

You probably can install the Bootcamp utility to non Apple hardware. I personally have it installed on my custom desktop computer, so that the old Apple keyboard I use with it can utilize the volume keys and have the correct keyboard layout. You can't trigger the installer by opening the normal file, but if you launch it as administrator using CMD (or one of the install scripts in the sub folders that contain all the drivers, can't remember how the process goes) the install script will just install Bootcamp utility without checking the hardware configuration.

@LazyPCRehab 4 года назад

1:28 Snazzy sign on back wall looks like it says Spazzy, lol.

@easyluckable 4 года назад

The video is good, but I wish the pro person does more than fancy b-roll. I mean this is the *ultimate* review. At least you could get him talk more about what’s his thought. Not just the software workaround.

@judman13 4 года назад

I really really really wanna see someone actually compare the XDR display to some of these 40k monitors in their true production environment. Like "I have this 40k reference monitor on my desk and I put a xdr there instead." Did it just replace it? Does it take extra tools to make it work? Does the workflow change? Does it actually make sense to do a replacement like that? Are people who were seriously looking at buying a 10k+ production monitor now buying xdr's instead? Everyone just blabs about the spec sheets and their impressions, but does it make sense in the "production houses" everyone seems to be talking about. Also what was the colorist in this video using before the XDR's?

@awesomeferret 4 года назад

It's still slightly smaller than the 30 inch 16:10 Apple Cinema Display that I still use. Still a beautiful monitor all these years later. I got it for free, but in 2005 it must have been amazing, 1440p IPS in 2005. And it works perfectly with Windows!

@1young-geezer 4 года назад

This is certainly all beyond my practice and means. But many thanks for informing me and putting it in perspective. All very well said!

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

This was the best slap, kick, and punch, you’ve taken at Apple Quinn. And it made for a great video because you picked them up after the beating. In a Snazzy kind of way. ;) Great video and thank you for doing this with Denver Riddle. That guy is cool.

@snazzy 4 года назад

Thanks!!

@WarriorsPhoto 4 года назад

@@snazzy You're welcome.

@MacGuy3135 4 года назад

Hollywood post production houses: has many 40,000 dollar reference monitors The theatre: one terrible 2K projector that seems like it was stolen from a primary school.

@pkerry12 4 года назад

its a budget Reference monitor I would say. Its no where near the quality of a top tier reference monitor. But it just makes it in the base tier of reference monitors.

@LukeLiterati 4 года назад

at 2 minutes the vertical slide down I was expecting a bottom piece like the all-in-ones.

@MrGarryRollo 4 года назад

Finally! Someone did a great video on "professional colour editor using this monitor" :D

@dannywinget 4 года назад

Excellent as usual. On point.

@snazzy 4 года назад

Thanks, Danny!!

@KenDel905 4 года назад

1:54 The main subject and whole video is about the displays but damn that cathode clock is dope af

@robertoaguiluz7350 4 года назад

5:44 correct me if im wrong, but those arms are the Humanscale M10 right??

@vasiovasio 4 года назад

God bless you, man!!! I spend lat 10 minutes to looking for it!

@omarcorrea 4 года назад

You are a true tech nerd sir. I didn't understand half of the techno stat jargon you mentioned, but I enjoyed this video none the less. Great job Q

@JazzyKitsune 4 года назад

I got completely distracted by the TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND UNREAD EMAILS AT 11:56

@clickbaitpro 4 года назад

This dude is very authentic and I like that you are not praising apple like other RU-vidrs

@luxembourger 4 года назад

Already two Apple monitor stands have been replaced by other VESA stands in our studio, because of ergonomical complaints. Now I have two thousand dollar of monitor stands in the storage room next to my office, probably more to follow and they will remain there for years.

@emrazum 4 года назад

please let us know what jacket you're wearing and in general start posting your outfits, i really like your style

@3d-speakers945 4 года назад

Please review all the new Schiit that has come out. Would love see a review of that.

@michaelpujda8407 4 года назад

It was pretty much a given the XDR wouldn't do well against Flanders and Eizo's $30,000 displays. It would have been nice to hear how it compared to the $6,000 Eizo and Flanders models instead. Nonetheless, great review.

@snazzy 4 года назад

To summarize Denver’s thoughts: it’s awesome at $6K and performs favorably to the Eizo and Flanders market save for the more fine tuning those monitors have and the built in scopes and SDI support. That’s just a no-go on XDR. At least until the Blackmagic box arrives. That said, Denver seems to think software scopes are good enough now that hardware ones don’t really matter all that much.

@AA-nj2ni 3 года назад

which monitor arms are being used? They look like humanscales but which models are they? great vid

@ianchroniclesyt 4 года назад

I like the first thumbnail better! Bring it back Quinn

@ashishbl 4 года назад

Man, this guy is the BEST tech youtuber in my opinion. No offence to MKBHD (I am fan of him too) but this guy is at a whole another level.

@snazzy 4 года назад

Wow thanks so much!

@ToddSAFM 4 года назад

Lol, I don’t understand most of what you said in this video. But it’s a testament to the quality of your content that I still enjoyed watching. Not that my opinion matters much, but, I think that’s pretty cool.

@timdeboer7400 4 года назад

When the length of the video is just right 👌

@DanielLopez-up6os 4 года назад

Could this be compared to something like ASUS's Pro Art monitor line? Also i saw someone extract the Monitor Utility from the bootcamp driver installer that you can get on the Apple Website.

@radiantav 4 года назад

This is fantastically informative video. Thanks, I learned a lot.

@LnnyOsoTo 4 года назад

I find your video about the Stand so amazing that the first few seconds of this video made me go watch it again.

@snazzy 4 года назад

Facelessly Personal 😂

@awzsdrcfgybhjimklp 4 года назад

As a developer I would consider buying one or two pro displays in the hope that it would reduce eye strain by being the highest quality monitor.

@jskuzma 4 года назад

I really appreciate Quinn's take on the Mac Pro and XDR display as a fan but still realistic.

@EposVox 4 года назад

I literally can't fit 32" in my setups :( wish the trend wasn't moving there. Also his plugin for Resolve looks great, but Mac only T_T

@eliahd20 4 года назад

You can drive the Pro Display XDR on any Thunderbolt 3 Apple Product at 6K using a Blackmagic External GPU. Otherwise it runs at 5K.

@kbhasi 4 года назад

Just clicked on this from my home feed recommendations. I have no idea why this is flagged as a "fundraiser" video, and RU-vid is complaining, "Sorry, you can't donate in this country or region yet", which is a clear indication of that. Oh my.

@TheMegaGlitch96 4 года назад

7:29 "This it ain't chief". That reminds me someone

@driftwoodpictures 4 года назад

i'm trying to work out who he reminds me of too, and especially when he said that line! I think it's an actor?

@ivanm4861 4 года назад

MKBHD

@defaultmesh 4 года назад

it was a meme from 2 years ago bruh

@themiguelpt91 4 года назад

Were those clips taken in Morocco? Cool!

@Skrenja 4 года назад

I haven’t seen the XDR in real life yet but what I’ve heard from pros is that it’s nowhere near the accuracy of what an actual reference monitor is capable of.

@marcuspusch 4 года назад

I am a software developer and bought the XDR display. We developers sit for a monitor almost all day, so the quality of the monitor really matters a lot. (Contrast, sharpness) I have been using the XDR display for 4 weeks now and I am absolutely satisfied. I waited a long time for such a monitor and would buy it again immediately .. Maybe someone should make videos about Apple products that are not related to RU-vidr.

@snazzy 4 года назад

Huh?

@ondrejbrandejsky5592 4 года назад

What?

@kavan1773 4 года назад

Yo snazzy, what are your thoughts on the state of the iPad and iPadOS? Assuming you even use an iPad

@Stanlyok 4 года назад

@ 4:25 Apple Pro Display XDR also seems to work with both sizes of latest iMac and 15-inch MacBook Pro (=

@tipoomaster 4 года назад

If they were going to go back to an integer scale on the Macbooks, the 16" seems like it would have been the chance to do so, but alas, it didn't. I always notice the slight non integer scaling blur too.

@utubekullanicisi Год назад

Hurray now we have it! Though not on the new M2 MacBook Air...

@semion.tsysaruk 4 года назад

Thanks for inviting Denver over! I learned color grading from his videos and courses and he is a true pro I’m his niche. Great video as always! Do you use a promoter?

@miur85 4 года назад

Snazzy, thank you for your work. Your sarcasm and irony joking style is funny but also very imformative.

@jennifergala 4 года назад

It should have been an 8K 12 bit panel and compatible with Dolby Vision at least.

@AbhishekGupta 4 года назад

The pro display xdr is only focused on developer who are in field of graphics and animation. As they require minimum disruption and better output which pro display xdr can help them focus but if we go with backend development rather than graphics we need power packed with stability. So they have focuse primarily on verg narrow market that will give them definite profit with almost no competition rather than focusing on majority where they can achieve sales but won't able go keep there apple profits stable for long period of time.

@TotallyGamerJet 4 года назад

Does it work on a hackintosh?

@Tigerex966 4 года назад

Your Honesty is a plus, now can you please review Asus Pro Art mini LED HDR monitors that preceded this XDR monitor in going after the Pro studio Monitor market at an affordable price, thanks.

@sdushdiu 4 года назад

To hell with the monitor.... I just bought 2 of the oh so nifty dysfunctional stands....

@stevegeorge7773 4 года назад

I’d be keen to see what other monitors peeps would/should consider.

@T.J 4 года назад

May I recommend a CFS Flo arm as an alternative VESA stand. It’s very good.

@MarcosElMalo2 4 года назад

I’m not saying that I want to buy this monitor and the Apple stand, but if I did, I’d want $700 wheels on that stand. ,Amy people say Apple is too expensive, I say it’s not expensive enough. ;-)

@PierrePotonnier 4 года назад

One thing I fear is this "visually lossless" compression. Color critical work need mathematically lossless compression. In the cinema/video/TV industry every codecs that are visually lossless means "good enought to look at" (from a cosumer stand point) not "good enough to work with" (from a professional stand point).

@PierrePotonnier 4 года назад

From what I can find on the vesa website, DSC is not mathematically lossless. It uses some already used mathematically lossless compression that we can found on other standards, and other technics that are not mathematically lossless. So it's a no-no for color critical work. it also induce a greater delay between the source and the display but at least the delay is constant.

@crax4dan 4 года назад

Whats the name of that screen saver he has playing in the background? I really like it, btw I'm using windows 10 :D

@casualintrovert207 4 года назад

They fixed the blooming issue with an update actually, you might want to check that out.

@jesus.h.crepes485 4 года назад

i still have the original 30" Cinema Display and it works freakin fantastic, i'm using it now. 14 years old and still working. Original cost was $2600. So maybe $5000 and hopefully 14 years of life will still be a good investment ( if it is built as well ).

@jabirc3304 4 года назад

hey snazzy pls compare to asus proart monitor

@juliansedor7101 4 года назад

I hate the scaling on Macbooks! I always use mine at full 2880x1800 resolution (or 4k at my desk).

@LeBeautiful 4 года назад

i can't even type 4,999 without crying in broke

@sdushdiu 4 года назад

LeBeautiful ...you can't even seem to type "I'm broke", either... ;-)

@TheAdello 4 года назад

LeBeautiful sell ur kidneys

@ep8022 4 года назад

Hi, i do have the amazon basics monitor arm… would you trust it to hold such an expensive display or would you get the Ergotron monitor arm ? Thank you

@snazzy 4 года назад

It’s probably fine but Ergotron and Simplyhuman are awesome.

@ep8022 4 года назад

Snazzy Labs thanks I think I’ll get the ergotron seems more sturdy than amazon ... also there are so many delays on this monitor, Ordered mine December 26 and still no show. I’m pretty sure it’s got to do with higher than anticipated demand and China virus. When did you order yours ? Or did find it in store ? Canada has nothing here !!! Sucks

@THE-MAD-TECHIE 4 года назад

You should do a real world comparison with ASUS ProArt PA32UCX 32" 16:9 4K HDR IPS Monitor, it is $1k less, comes with stand, has native vesa support no $200 bracket needed , and due to bandwidth issues 4k is likely easier to work with ....on paper looks like close alternative ...wonder how would really stack up

@РенатГалямов-о4т 4 года назад

5:57 When you bought a montor for 5K and don't understand why

@MichaelRadeck 4 года назад

as long as the xdr is not able to be calibrated it does not meet the netflix requirements (for netflix you need a quarterly certificate about a professional calibration)

@Phunker1 4 года назад

I even hacked my G4 Imac to be a monitor, because that stand was so ingenious. This is what Apple comes up with 15 years later? Honestly?

@epprealty 3 года назад

Extremely well composed review. Kudos!

@zacharyzimmerman1789 4 года назад

Hey snazzy labs I'm just next to SLC it would be a crazy dream to come see the lab and meet you guys! Love the vids guys! Keep it up!

@ZeldagigafanMatthew 4 года назад

TBH, I think that once we start getting into the multi-thousand dollar price tag, we have a right to nitpick, and my main gripe is how it doesn't come with a VESA mount as part of the body. Something that damn near every other display on the market does.

@samuelschwager 4 года назад

I should NOT have looked up the price for the Sony BVM-HX310. Nearly fell off my chair ;)

@irving.torres 3 года назад

You are incorrect. It runs natively in 6k on the 15 inch MacBook Pro 2019. You said it would only run 6k on Mac Pro or the new 16 inch MacBook Pro.

@campbellnelson4018 4 года назад

Hey guys I bought the jacket he’s wearing. You are welcome.

@00SNIVY00 3 года назад

It's a good monitor probably for those who need something better than something you'd find at Best Buy. It's geared towards the right kinds of people, but it does have a lot of caveats that make it specifically for those people rather than a general audience, price tag included.

@mptrh336 4 года назад

Hey Quin! What’s the best way to suggest a video topic?

@lux-pro 4 года назад

Excellent review, Quinn! Thanks!

@casperes0912 4 года назад

If I were rich, I’d be the perfect market for this. I’m a hobbyist filmmaker, a software developer by trade, a photographer as another hobby. But I’m still studying CS so no way I can afford this for my hobby films... Though having the portrait mode for long source code files and 6k wide for side several side-by-side source files would be great, along with working really well for the hobbies

@keco185 3 года назад

Entry-level professional

@blairgorman6395 4 года назад

Wow, THANK YOU for revealing the lack of true horizontal lock on the Apple stands.. which becomes an issue with multi-display setups that look "wonky" without this. Frankly, I'm astonished... I was on the verge of "upgrading" my stands, but looks like it'd be quite a downgrade from my existing Vesa arms. I'll stick with my Monitors in Motion Mantis 30 stands, which are the best I have found... twice as good, at half the price!

@itsjb4089 4 года назад

The Location up the top says “Salt Lake City” - and it’s official - Snazzy is mormon.

@tally.klecko 4 года назад

Genuinely curious about this

@snazzy 4 года назад

lol I am

@Whalebarf79 4 года назад

Only Mormons can afford it.

@ExarchGaming 4 года назад

@@snazzy That's pretty nifty snazzy. I live up in roy. Not far from you!

@fakename287 4 года назад

@@Whalebarf79 TIL mkbhd is a mormon 🤔

@Garrettdx1988 4 года назад

Thank you for giving me a real review. Logically, everything you said makes perfect sense. Most other reviews I've seen makes it seems like Apple somehow made a magical display. Apple knows how to market to the RU-vid generation better than any other company, and it's not even close.

@GertKombate 4 года назад

Thank you for this AMAZINGLY HONEST review! It helps a lot. Keep it up.

@David_Phantom 4 года назад

This might be a stupid question but does the ProDisplay work with hackinoshes?

@hobbes1231 3 года назад

Hi I've been considering a new monitor and checking a lot of vids. do you think the ASUS Proart 32UCX deserves a like? the mini LED technology and 1000+ local dimming zone with great coverage of rec2020 seems like an awesome spec for the price which I think will battle this Pro Display XDR