Warthunder is a great game, you need to invest your life into it to make it too high tier, but its just a fantastic game, that has survived time and reinvented itself. Ive been playing since 2013, and sure, there has been issues and gripes but the game is just always adapting and growing, and i still play it heavily at times.
do you really think i watched te whole video ? absolutely not, thanks to the time stamp, i skippped all the way to end just to see the best one, thats it, and i got it, its 7800x3d, thank you brother! a like for your effort 🥰🥰❤❤👍👍
Microcenter motherboard bundles throw price to performance way out of whack... if you live near one definitely check it out 😅 (sometimes they cost barely more than the price of the CPU itself, all for a CPU, Motherboard, and RAM)
Rocking a 5700X3D/RTX 3080 combo. I game mostly at 1440P and play mainly single-player games so I'm probably set for another year or two. I don't mind using upscaling/frame gen when needed. In fact, I have Lossless Scaling and use that sometimes, though I don't really need to. It's just when I'm trying to max out my high refresh monitor/tv.
Very happy I didn't follow the Advice of a friend to buy the Ryzen 9 5950X, and instead followed what everyone had been saying and went with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D
@@davidavery6215The 7800X3D is so cracked will probably handle all high-end graphics cards in the next 7 years or something, just get what you want, the 7900xtx is the best (but not most price efficient) card AMD offers
@@hermit-hackney-bluegill if u have it already then its good but only for budget 1080p gaming, rx580 to rx6650xt i guess if you dont have it yet then dont but the 4600g 💀
@@Levi-rr4xc Oxidation, nearly a 100% failure rate reported, Intel as a company may be done, I never thought I would hear that in my lifetime, but ya, it might be the end of Intel as a company actually. esp since soon nvidia will start competing in the CPU race
Hey Scattervolt, You're awesome at explaining how to build PCs, even though you might not get all the recognition you deserve Your step-by-step guides are super clear and easy to follow especially for someone like me who's just getting into this stuff.I appreciate how you take your time to explain what each part does and how to put it all together. Your videos not only teach me how to build a PC but also how to fix things if they go wrong. Keep up the great work-you're a fantastic teacher for anyone wanting to build their own computer! YOUR THE BEST PC RU-vidR
I bought the Micro Center 5600X3D bundle and sold my old CPU with the bundled board and RAM. In the end, the 5600X3D cost me $60. Many did similar with the bundles. That is the true advantage of having a Micro Center down the street, its crazy sweet.
Not surprised to see the i5-12400F rated pretty highly at $110. I bought mine two years ago for $160 and it has been outstanding not just for gaming but I do some software video compression with it too in Handbrake and am pretty pleased with the H.265 encode times even setting the encoder to the slow preset. Feel like the cpu has been even better bang for your buck than the Xeon E3-1231v3 I bought in 2014 to get i7 performance for i5 prices (paid $250 for that one though back when Intel dominated the market and could charge more).
Thank you so much and thanks for being a supporter of the channel! I kinda like these longer than normal tier list videos. I think it's a winning combo haha.
I'm still on AM4, but I upgraded to the 5700x3d paired with 4070 Super. Hopefully I can get another 4 years or more with this combo. Very informative vid thanks!
Seems about right looking at where my 12700k sits, Still quite happy with it now it's about to be 3 gens behind when Arrow Lake comes out later this year.
Bought a 7800X3D recently to pair with various other upgrades including an MSI 4080Super I've overclocked to 3000Mhz. Previously had a 3900X CPU overclocked all core from 3.6Ghz to 4.3Ghz. The difference in gaming and even workstation performance is mind boggling. Even though it has 4 less cores and 8 less threads it's not even close. Some games I have doubled my FPS. Glad I upgraded. a shame I had to do it in parts as the one time cost was too much in one go
I have a 14700k and im happy with it, because ive had many many problems with my Ryzen 7 5800X before that, so Intel was the way to go and tbh i dont care about having to buy a new motherboard for the next upgrade because i always get a new one if im upgrading
If you haven't heard , 14th and 13th gen i7s and i9s have hardware ishues , hopefully you have one of the good batches . But just in case , upgrade the bios rn . and wait for the intel bios update in micro code so it doesnt degrade or at least degrade's slower . Intel 13th and 14th high end chips are getting unstable , crashing , and eventually dieng as the chip degrades due to the high high voltages. Intel is still trying to do damage control and not telling us everything , we know there was manufacturing issues in there main Arizona factory . My 13700kf hasnt had issues yet , but i undervolted it from the start . and even more so recently after i heard the ishues. hope we both have some of the better non flawed chips
Started on AM4 with R7 3700x & RTX 2060 in Jan 2020 with a 1080p ultrawide monitor. Upgraded to R7 5700x3d & RTX 4070 earlier this year. Hoping the upgraded combo can last me another 4yrs or so.
@ScatterVolt R7 7800X3D gang! My mainboard broke and needed replacing, so I switched entirely and went with AMD, sold my i9 12900 to a friend for cheap. Best decision ever made.
Its funny to see, that the 7500f is a Aliexpress only CPU in the the states. As for Germany, you can order a 7500f like any other CPU. like a 7800x3d. But in my opinion, its a bit sad, that we cannot get the 5600x3d.
I got my 7500f today from the established german online hardware shop Mindfactory. It cost me 145 Euro which is around 155 USD. It was an upgrade to my ryzen5 3600 and I am so hyped to play Elden Ring on max settings now :)
As a 5800X3D user, I do agree that while the CPU is great at gaming, it should not be considered for a new build. AM4 shouldn't be considered at all anymore. I would even say that if you were gifted an AM4 motherboard, but needed Ram and a CPU, it would still be a better idea to buy a lower end CPU on AM5, and spend a little more to get the whole AM5 setup. Even a 7600X can often match the 5800X3D in gaming (right now), and you will have an upgrade path. I had several AM4 PC's, and I did a rolling upgrade on existing systems, that already had RAM and CPUs.
I recently upgraded my AM4 CPU to 5700X3D, you can find it brand new between $200-$210. And I would say that if you are just upgrading than this is an S-teir CPU
amd did confirm 7800x3d is faster than the recently announced 9000 series cards, in gaming. you cannot go wrong with this purchase. i highly agree with Marc and totally recommend it!
Main thing i disagree with is placing the 7600X above the 7600. I prefer the non x because its much more power efficient for basically the same performance. The free stock cooler is an added bonus too
What I'm taking away from this is that my recent upgrade from a 9 3900X to the 7 5700X3D was the smartest thing I could do with my B550 motherboard. Good to know.
Still quite happy with my purchase and use of an R5 3600X, holding up after almost 5 years of use, but I might upgrade soon (going to get either a ryzen 7000 series or a 9000 series, but it still depends on their availability, or overhaul my board and switch to intel which depends if ryzen stocks here are a plenty). Overall fair ratings, great job and great video.
Heyy, I recently just upgraded my setup and went with a i9 14900k and rtx 4080 super for gaming/content creation. But I noticed you said the 14900k isn’t good for gaming, why is that? And should I switch to a different cpu
Have you seen the video yet? He explained that the I9 14900K was designed and is suitable for things related to editing, rendering or similar things, not for gaming because the CPU temperature is too hot when used for gaming. Of course I9 14900K can do the same for gaming but it is not worth it.
only asking because I only decided to go with the 14900k because I also do editing and such, but if it’s going to affect my gameplay recordings since I do gaming content then I’ll probably just go with the amd counterpart
Rocking a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and a Ryzen 5 5600. Super happy with these cpus..though am now thinking of upgrading my Radeons (5700XT & 6700XT) to the newer gen Radeons once the prices are okay 👍
@@DillonCatterson great choice! but actually am eyeing a 7800XT, coz my case is very small, so couldn't fit a 3-fan GPU (the Sapphire Pulse 7800XT is 2-fan). But when the time comes, I would just probably upgrade the casing too.
Recently upgraded from 12400 to 12700k. I have a rtx 4070. Yesterday my Spiderman Remastered FPS doubled. Other games on 1440p run better too. Files transfers significantly better. I knew 12400 was not powerful enough @ 1440 but i believed these kind of reviews from before. Bad mistake.
My idea its buy something with graphics already, and has to be amd for later on put a graphics card and a 7800x3d, yall think its good to buy a 5 8600g and do that upgrade later? I dont have the money to buy something like the 7800x3d and a graphics card right now cause im a teen and i only work in summer, or yall just think i should be some time with some graphics card really cheap but the 7800x3d? Thanks
People buying the 5800x3D are not looking to upgrade, but get the best that they could push the platform without RAM/ MB investment. That money can instead be used to upgrade to Blackwell. If someone builds a PC to start an upgrade path, they don't want to spend more at the beginning, around $200 is the starter budget limit IMO. The 5800x3D is an endgame for AM4, and many having 3600/ 3700x, even 5600x would really get their platform's worth with this CPU. So this CPU is for those already on AM4. 12700K/KF are as rightly pointed out, a tier above 5800x3D. One of their best selling points is the way they handle RPCS3. They are the CPU to brute force with, and with 12900K running hotter (12700K can be air-cooled with a D15) and 13/14th gens giving more blue screens than getting actual work done, 12700K is the GOAT of P/E architecture, at least on DDR4. And btw, AM4 is still alive with 5900XT/ 5800XT. Trust AMD to release more products still 🤡
Soo I just got a 4070 super with a 7800x3d but I also saw a 4080 super but with i7 14700k. Would I be dumb to return my pc and get the 4080 super with i7 14700k?
Ryzen 9s are kind of a sweet spot if you get it for a really good price. I think they deserve a better place. For me, I got the Ryzen 9 7900 for 239$ (discounted), and because I do my productivity stuff with the same PC I game with, its a really good and efficient CPU for me. It ultimately comes down to the user. If you want top of the line gaming CPU, go with the Ryzen 7 / i5?? (idk the intel equivalent lol) series. However, if you use your productivity apps (Premiere Pro, Photoshop, Blender...) than stepping up to a Ryzen 9 / i7-9 would be the best option. I chose the Ryzen 9 7900 non-X variant cause I want to be as efficient as possible. If you do not have limits, go for the Ryzen 9 7900X - 7950x. They are much more power efficient than their Intel equivalents. (About %10 speed difference, i think).
I was running a 5600X3D cooled by a Thermalright Assassin Mini with a Zotac Trinity 4070 ti but sold it for 700 and downgraded to a $280 6750XT twin-fan from Powercolor. It's on an Asrock B550 ITX board with 64GB of 3600mt/s DDR4, a 2TB Gen 4 Primary NVMe, and two-2TB 2.5 SATA SSDs powered by a 650w Redragon modular 80+G PSU inside of a Thermaltake Core V1 Snow.
I built my PC back in 2016, and since then mentally checked out of the hardware world. Now I want to build a new one and everything is so confusing, especially AMD's new line of GPU's. I don't know what's last gen or current gen... Videos like this are super helpful, so thank you for that.
I will tell that the reason to launch am4 stuff at 2024 is because amd is expected to support this zen3 technology for around 2 years more and some of them are not well...they don't sold so much, this means they had to relaunch/rebranch/rename some of them. Thats reason for 5800xt to exist (5900 variant might be out of stock soon). Hope this answer your about 39min question in video.
I am currently using an almost 4 year old 3060 laptop and is planning to build a 4070 SFF pc. I havent been updated about the new CPUs espcially the AMD for the past years. I almost fell into into buying that garbage Ryzen 7 8700F 🤣. Thanks for this, im decided to buy R5 7500F instead. I think this is perfect for SFF build because of its decent TDP(for cooling) but still capable of powering 4070(or maybe im wrong?)
Just upgraded to Ryzen 7 5700x (150 euros) and I think I am going to stay on AM4 for a long time with this cpu. By the way: The 5800x is just a little bit better, but it consumes a lot more power. Sometimes it pulls 2x the power, while the performance is more or less the same. That's pretty weird. 5700x will give you same performance, is cheaper and will be easier to cool.
For those who targeting Valorant and/or CS2: GET R5 5600 instead of 12400F. It smoked 12400F in Valorant and CS2 (and even higher tier 12600K) because of its 32MB cache. And if your budget allows things like 12600KF, get 5700X3D (or 5800X3D if isn't more than $10-15 than the lower tier) and your next upgrade is probably 7800X3D. PCIE 4.0 is the only advantage on the R5 3600 honestly. Zen2 has a split cache with 2 16MB cluster on a CCD which have 2 CCX, 16MB of L3 cache per CCX, and 3 cores per CCX, so you don't really have fast access to that much of a cache, making it not that much of advantage. But on Zen 3, you have a unified L3 cache between 2 CCX, and with half of the L3 cache, technically all cores still have access to the same 16MB of cache. In games that utilize higher clock and IPC than cache, 5500 starts to take the lead. If you are into enthusiast stuff like RAM overclocking, 5500 can pair with 4400 easily without sacrificing anything on the latency because IMC can match 4400MT/s RAM with 2200 on FCLK. All of the repurposed APUs from Zen 2 and beyond can do this because of their monolithic design, which means the IOD is also at 7nm and clock higher. And about Intel 'Raptor Lake' non-K. They are all Alder Lake or 12th gen if you guys prefer that. Just look at memory support on Intel Ark, Alder Lake (officially) supports DDR5-4800, Raptor Lake is DDR5-5600. Example: 13600K and 13500. If you think 13500 is just lower bin 13600K, you are wrong. None of Raptor Lake upgrades are on that. Smaller cache, worse memory support. But in exchange for being Alder Lake, much better in terms of stability and has no Raptor Lake instability issues (even 13600K and 14600K have instability issues, the chance is just slimmer since users usually pair it with a B board that has more relax on voltage regulation usually give higher voltage so lacking-of-voltage too boost behave better) P/s: Both non-K and K series CPUs are fine with 6000MT/s, they are just the official supports, which doesn't mean they can't run better than that.
Hi guys I currently have a RX 7900XTX GPU and looking for a new CPU not sure what to pair it with I was thinking a I9-14900K anyone have any advice on if this is a good idea or just general advice? Thanks
What if you buy a ryzen 9 5900x for 200usd will it then be a good value cpu😄🤑🤣. Considering my motherboard max potential is only ryzen 5000 series. I currently ordered one for 200usd and looks very very promising upgrading from a 5600.
Hey Nice vid !! I was wondering, I already have a well upgraded AM4 setup, except the cpu (3700x) I'm thinking of buying a 5700x3d, I mean for 180€ on aliexpress It's quit nice. but a 7700 and a brand new mobo and ram sound also good but way more expensive (I have a 3080ti if wondering)
If only the 5600 was 20-30 bucks more. In my country the ryzen 5 5500 is 110 dollars and the 5600 is 175 dollars. Is it worth to get the 5600 when I still have my Asrock B450M steel Legend(pcie gen 3 mobo) and it cost 65 dollars more. I have a Ryzen 5 1600 AF. If you tell me I need to upgrade my motherboard then I could have just went with a ryzen 5 7500F, an am5 mobo and ddr5 but I have a budget.
I have a Ryzen 9 5900X 12 core paired with a ROG STRIX X570-E motherboard, Nvidia 3080 RTX 10gb- and 32GB of RAM and i have a 2560x1440 monitor. Can anyone help me as to why my pc is not performing well? is the ryzen 9 actually that bad or what's the problem.
Question at the moment I am on AM4 Ryzen 3600 with a 7700XT 12GB. Is there any reason to upgrade to a better CPU (still AM4) for better Performance and for future prof?
I dont understand why "gaming CPU Ranking" When you Rank the Upgrade possibility? All i want to know is If the 14700kf is good for gaming. And yes its one of the best, but you Rank it on D because of the Upgrade thing. Doesnt make sense
Issue with lots of powerful CPUS y temperature and power consumption huge not worth it for gaming but for AI and video editing wow they fly freely for AMD just some adjustments on the Bios to undervolt them so temperatures don’t go 😂to fry an egg 🍳 and you have a power house
POV: You wish the prices were real... A lot of the mentioned prices are way lower than reality, at least in the country where I live. Plenty of the cpus in this list are easily going for 50-70 USD more at best. Are they really that cheap in the US?
My prebuilt came with a Ryzen 7 5700. I’m running it with a 4080 and so far I haven’t had problems running any games at 4k max settings save Jedi Survivor. Is it the best processor? No, but I got it on a heavily discounted prebuilt so it works good enough for me.
i bought few days ago combo of 7800x3d with rtx 4070 ti super and it have been great great few days when it comes to cooler i went with Arctic Liquid Freezer III 240 2x120mm and temps are in great spot for example cyberpunk or ghost of tsushima with highest settings avaiable does nto make my cpu go over 64*C when ti comes to average temp the highest i saw was 67 i bellive
@@ScatterVolt yeah i mean it was an upgrade after almost 6 years so yeah had to do something :D went with adata 32 2x16 6ghz cl30 lancer blade rams and for with m2 from my good old home country GOODRAM m.2 who never dissapointed me when it comes to ram or ssd
Rocking an 8600G right now. Those classic 12400F+6600 combo comparison (which is true thats its better priced that 8700G) cant be used for this APU. Its simply a better value per dollar ratio. Priced almost two third from 8700G but just little less performance you can barely notice, oh and raytracing too just like 8700G. Cold, silent, and the new generation. Another price cut will make this APU king on the market like the 5500G.
I had before 5600x and there was not 7500f able, and 7600x cost 120 euro less than 5800x3d, I feel I do not want to pay 200 bucks for ddr5-6000Mhz 32gb 36cl + 250 bucks motherbord + 7600x for 300, was smarter to get 5800x3d for 400 bucks for me, that CPU will keep up with 6950xt for a while. my next upgrade will defenetly be my screen when I have samsung g7-27 240Hz and waiting for 1440p 360Hz QD-OLED to drop to something like 800 bucks when its allready at 1300 bucks.
The only downside about 5600X3D is the availability and 2 lesser cores if used in productivity scenarios. Other wise it excels 5700X3D in every aspect due to higher core clocks. 5700X3D is the slowest among the AM4 X3D Trio I am surprised 5600X3D gets such a low ranking.
My i3 13100 is so worth it with my 3060ti . had my cpu almost a year now and loving it for 1080P high frames. You convinced me to go i5 12600K haha. I was looking at i5 13th or 14th gen but naaaah
