Love this one. Rolled it 4 times in practice with Randy only. $2500 bankroll (which is probably not enough) . Twice made $500 easy. Twice got wiped the hell out by Randy. Damn dude was rolling 4/10s like crazy. I did notice, like the unbeatable $160, this is one of those strategies that instead of laddering all the way down, pay attention to your BR. You can be in profit and have exposure to $900 on the table exposed for no reason. Good stuff Waylon.
@Waylon's Way Craps I'll try to get a video out and see what happens. I hope it succeeds but if it doesn't that's also good to know if a tweak can be made.
@Steve Fisher I know Waylon well enough after watching his videos that he is a stop loss zero guy. So he brings to the casino what he plans to lose. But if you have a stop loss then follow that. Otherwise bring the money to be able to ladder. I will say only ladder up and ladder down in my opinion if you have a deficit or want to get a little extra cash and risk it.
@Red Eye Hey appreciate the support. Yeah i don't see how only having good sessions is beneficial. I prefer to see something get clobbered BUT win 14 out of 15 times than see 30 awesome wins in a row. Not saying it can't happen but doesn't seem authentic.
Genius!!! You just keep outdoing yourself. Every time I think there’s no way he comes out with something better than his last and baammmmmm it happens!!! Love love love this one Waylon!! I’ll be using this one whenever I want to go collect some cash 💰 from the casino!! 😮 WOW!!!!
One thing I love about this strategy is that you will never lose your entire bankroll if you set a ladder limit! Over 27% of your bankroll is protected and can be used to fight another day. So you do this at the $2 level, that would mean lay 16 each on the 4 and 10 and $2 each on the inside ($8 total). If you bring $488 to the table. That will get you all the way up to level 8. Say the worst case happens and you get 8 straight 4/10. Let’s assume the 4 is hit at level 8. You’re done. But you didn’t lose everything becauae you still have $72 on the 10 and 64 on the inside. That’s $136/$488 bankroll which is just over 27% of your buy in. That’s worse case scenario, but in reality you also had some wins along the way which would add to that. So it doesn’t take that many sessions to win your money back!! You only lose 1 four or 1 ten at a time, unlike purely light side strategies or don’t strategies where you can be entirely wiped out on 1 roll.
Very Nice! 👍🏻 You mentioned daily paycheck. How about doing a daily paycheck series with this strategy? If you’re up for it. Thanks for another keeper Waylon! Just rolled it out 3 times on the wizard with success. Highest 4&10 was 5 and came back strong. This would work well on bubble craps too. $40 lay 4&10 each with $5 on each of the inside numbers, $20 total. If you roll a 4 or 10 then add $20 to the 4&10 and another $20 on the inside. Will work at any level as long as you start with a 4:1 ratio at the onset. Thanks again brother for all you do!
I concur a daily paycheck with this strategy would be awesome 🤠 if it wins to quick you could downsize it to 120-150 lays with 66-88 inside and double from there to grind out a longer session.
Just seeing a progression of how fast you can lose it all. I enjoy all the strategies because as a simple craps player I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone play like you and I find it very educational. Of all your methods which one do rely on the most.
This one is one of those sneaky strategies. I had laddered up 5 steps, then started back down when I started hitting numbers. I only came down 2 steps when I realized I was up $450.
Waylon tried this with 2000 BR when you were trying out the" Doc Holiday strategy " for the first time adding the 5&9. Using your roils I could not make a profit; I did manage to break even. So try it with your rolls I don't think you will win. Maybe with bigger BR but I only practice with what I have in my actual BR. Thank s for your time and knowledge.
Nice. I literally just played this in LV. I didn’t come down a level when a 7 out hits because that was a push the way I had it set up. Did well. Bought in for $1500 and 2 shooters killed me back to back as I had to add on $500 at one point because I was up to the 5th level-$500/4&10. Won about $850 by the time it came back down. Turned it off the next time those guys rolled and one of them hit 5 4/10s before any 7. Lucky to avoid it. Prob going to wait until i see a number of 4 or 10s before i start it next time. 3k bank roll is probably a minimum IMO but I was just testing things before I realized that. I was just using $100 on the 4/10 to start….maybe I need to double that like you just showed. Gonna try that next time.,however I think I only needed 2 hits to come back down for most levels. That’s why I watch your channels. You have great ideas. 24 wins vs 6 losses. Math is in the favor for sure
Yes your ratio needs to change go up 2 units on the lays + a bigger buy in. I have done this at the 100 lay level in Vegas & at my local casinos in the past year with 66-88 inside & and when the 4's & 10's are rolling I would lose about -600 per session tomany times before I realized I needed to change the lays it to make the 7 count for more, Waylon got the receipe just right 💯 PS some dealers hate when you don't cap the 6&8 hard math for the new ones I guess when the count gets up there I've found so I cap them.
Best way for the tables to start rolling 4/10’s is for me to lay then damn numbers I swear! Definitely going to roll this on my table, I do nothing but shake and chuck em. If I show profits I’ll be able to pull that squirrel off my shoulder when I lay those damn 4/10’s. 😂😂
Would of probably rolled better on a table… I think them bubble craps know .. ? Once it starts going up… low level wins a few bucks is easy ..but once those levels rise .. every other roll bam it kept hitting the lay..dammit that sucked @! Very fortunate to of gotten saved by a random slot hit after.. good thing I didn’t completely tilt
played this for five days in Vegas. changed one aspect . Did not work the numbers on come out which gave me higher overall profit. But when I got up to the six hundred level on 4&10, had to throw an extra number before going down a level. had 75% winning sessions, and one bad session of $400 loss where there were six four and sevens in a row at $500 and above level.
On crapsee u can play $25 on 6/8 Not at the casino No need to show the point if ALWAYS working.. Stay on the roll it pays.. Rolls on .. Christ IS king.. Amen to that one brother
Interesting Waylon. Ever tried it live at casino? Let Us Know ! Appreciate ya. Also, as a control shooter, would you recommend I just "chuck them" when Im shooting ?
No sir! I set my dice when I shoot! I just test my strategies Random throwing! If they can win against Random Randy they can damn sure win with a good shooter
I keep at track of the number of hits with my white chips so I don’t forget, 1,2 or 3 hits 1, 2 or 3 white chips. I’ve used this strategy with a tweak, I press 3 or 4 hits, take down to base level start over, WYT?
It's very clear n easy too... sweet rolling.. from the way it looks..its a "cant lose" total winner.. all the way around solid .. 21 to 6 ... gotta love those odds
Waylon which do you like best? This version, your version 2 where you press, or your inside bankroll management version. Also if you get hit twice from same shooter on 4 and 10 would you just wait on next shooter? I was playing your lay 410 today. Was getting killed from one guy I finally gave up playing on him. Grinded my way back to win 175
@@waylonswaycraps I didn’t see that the first level is $200 on 4 and 10, but after I rewatched it I saw it. Makes more sense. Thanks so much for your videos! Love that we have real craps in Arizona now!
Would adding a field bet and a line bet (either only if you are the shooter or all the time), i.e., iron cross on steroids, work for this, to win on more numbers? The 4 and 10, instead of winning 8 units on a 7 would win 6?
I would mix this strategy with your worlds greatest strategy, in that, lay the 4/10 on your come out roll. My guess is you already have shown on video on just that(: So, a question, let’s say you lay a 4/10 do you only have to pay the vig when you win. The reason I ask is that if I take down my Lay 4/10 do I still have to pay a vig?
Thanks Waylon this would be great for 3 rolls and out... But this bring up a question I been thinking on. I love 100 180 strategy but I get burned on 3 rolls and out when table goes cold. I was thinking on combining reverse mortgage 4 & 10 $50 with $100 dont pass for first 3 rolls. Then 100 & 180 for one hit. Bring it all down ride out don't pass. Is 2k enough or is there a different strategy I should use for 3 hit and out randy. Think about.... thanks for your videos.
Thanks Waylon 😊 I'll keep working on it. I'm new shooter just need to get feel for the table need to use right strategy for the time. That free balling video said alot on all accounts...😊
Nice 👍 🙂, I am wondering ... Looks like if you're only able to get 2 hits on a level ... a one hit on the upper level is all you would need to come back down to a lower level, I think that's what you were saying at the end if I'm rite. An even better strat if that's true.
WAYLAND…I love this strategy also . Only problem is the Boston casino wants the lay VIG up front . So even when we lose the lay bet , we have to pay again and again the VIG/ lay bets … can we still over come paying this VIG over and over ? Foxwoods only charges VIG after ya hit the lay bet but that’s 4 hours round trip away . Please , your thoughts on this ?Ty very much again .
I rolled this out at those amounts at home and busted, I had a 5k bankroll to start but at 3.7k loss I didn't have enough to keep playing at that pressed up level., so maybe you'll need at least a 10k bankroll for it to have better chance to recover. I got to the 6th level tomany times, I kept coming down to about the 4th level, only to then go back up to 500 and then 600 on each lay 🤦🏻♂️ it got brutal very quick once I got up +500 in profit I should of ended it because around the 4th and up level you can go just 2 hits insted of 3 to bring your lays down quicker before they reach irretrievable levels which is what still happened to my 5k buy in 🤷🏻♂️ at the 6th level maybe just regress with 1 hit because if you go past the 6th level then it doesn't even make sense to keep going up unless you have a death wish so at that point you might as well quit or drop down to base level.
That was gonna be my question? What if you roll alot of say 4's how would you do the math if only laying the 10.Or if you do roll alot of 4's & 10's would you just not play this strategy?
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I've been playing it on Crapsee all day and haven't lost yet with it! I'm sure I'll lose sooner or later though! It'll figure out my betting algorithm and roll 20 4&10s before a 7 lol
@@waylonswaycraps Well, I guess anything is possible. I don’t really trust computer craps because its algorithms can track your strategy. The only way to lose is if you keep rolling 4s or 10s before you’re able to drop back down to base level. If you get to level 5 and only get 2 hits before a 4/10 shows, then you gotta go to level 6. It is possible for this to keep occurring, especially on computer craps. And Wizard of Odds always starts you out with a $10,000 bankroll.
That shit is a total farce. Switch to ANY strategy on Earth and that thing beats you NO MATTER WHAT instantly. I tried this there too and it literally will throw 4's & 10's every 2 throws of the dice and then hit 3 and 4 in a row, then 14 out of 17 are 4's and 10's.... the simulator just wont even throw a 7 while youre doing this. Switch to something where ya play against the 7....the simulator will immediately start 7 outing like every single roll. That simulator is THE DEFINITION of a pile of shit.
I appriciate all the craps info and i find something interesting. You have never lost your bank roll in any one of your strategy video post. Kinda Strange
All strategies lose ! We all know that right? I test all my strategies before I post them on my page! If they have a good winning percentage Ill post it! If you're looking for a channel that loses money all the time this ain't the one!
By the way I lost my whole bankroll in my daily paycheck series last week! I also won 170 thousand dollars ( live ) last year with my Strategies in 13 days! Started with 2500$ bankroll
Tried this strategy on wizard of odds and got my ass handed me....does anybody else have problems with that simulator or is it just me...seams like somethings up with that program
100% a problematic simulator. The guy is a math guy that runs Wizard. He definitely designed it so players would lose their bankrolls while trying things. I think he does it so people dont play negative expectation games at all because in the long run 99% of players will lose playing games with negative expectation. You could switch to betting the 4 & 10 and wizards simulator would IMMEDIATELY start throwing 7s every other throw. The way i know that thing is fkd up is because the average shooter throws the dice ab 6 times before a 7 out... when you play against the 7 in that simulator it throws a 7 ab every 2 or 3 rolls nonstop until you switch strategies... then itll start beating the new strategy instantly. Its a shitty simulator.
