Attention everyone: My parents lived in the Texas town, Waco. Everyone pronounces that like Wayco. The American biplanes, Waco, however are pronounced exactly the way the presenter said: Wah-co. Congratulations to the presenter!
The flying wing had a cockpit full of authentic-looking German controls and instruments, hardly shown at all in the film. While working at the RAF Museum, I showed one of the designers around the German aircraft in the Battle of Britain hall and dug out catalogues of instruments and gun mounts from the 30s. The aircraft had Jaguar car engines if I remember correctly.
That is super interesting an something I wasn't aware of. Seems like a lot of effort for something that was never seen. Nice to know they were paying that much attention. Thanks 👍✈️
Except the Horten’s (the leading exponents of flying wings) worked with Gotha not Blohm & Voss… Alexander Lippisch who was big on tailless aircraft worked with Fieseler, DFS and Messerschmitt on his smaller designs. This aircraft is closer to the American Northrop aircraft of the late 1930’s. This is sort of a twin engine version of the Lippisch DFS 40 from 1939.
Back in the 1990s I had the privilege to work on the 1929 Ford Tri-Motor that was in the Temple of Doom. A museum located in Florida had purchased it from a museum in California and the company i worked for at the time, restoring P-51 Mustangs, was tasked with getting the Tri-Motor into flying condition to make the cross country journey. The best part about that job was that we all got a chance to fly in the Tri-Motor when the work was done. Its always fun to watch that movie and know that I had a part to play in the story of that particular aircraft.
The float plane in the early part was at Na Willi Willi on the island of Kauai in the Hawaiian Islands. We took a boat ride on that stream, the foliage isn’t as dense as the movie makes it out to be. The magic of camera angles.
Give him credit - Spielberg is a history and military enthusiast - and he goes out of way to express his respect for accuracy where possible. But your research and dedication is brilliant!
I agree, I think he does a very good job. Even for a fictional film, Raiders is pretty accurate with its aircraft. All the "real aircraft" could have been aircraft possibly used by Indy. Its not meant to be a historical film, so it doesn't have to be 100% accurate, and it does a good job to make things feel authentic. Thank you 👍✈️
Ja... How should I put this nicely... Spielberg is a history enthusiast when it comes to making Americans look good. And this film is an enormous mess, like the next films. In the 2nd strip... This is so great... Everyone is sleeping in the plane that belongs to the archenemy and doesn't have a pressurized cabin. And instead of simply shooting the 3 "passengers" and throwing them overboard, they jump off themselves, which always involves a risk and crash a plane worth several thousand dollars and have to find themselves somewhere in the middle of nowhere, to make their way through a wintery hostile environment until they reach civilization again. Let's be honest... Which peyote mushroom group came up with this nonsense? And what idiots watched this watery shit in the cinema? Questions, over questions...
Blohm & Voss where mostly known for their assymetric designs. But the designers of the movie plane certainly looked at the firms later "paper planes" BV 212.03 and 212.04 with their downturned wingtips and short double fins. Overall design in the bomber role as a great likeness to the Arado E555 and the Lippisch-Messerschmitt P O4-106 and Messerschmitt 265 and 329.
That does check out, as the "BV-38" doesn't exist. The only two Luftwaffe aircraft with the '38' designation that I could find are the Heinkel HD 38, a fighter from 1928. And the Junkers G.38, a four engine transport from 1929.
Thanks everyone for watching the video. The response so far has been terrific and as a result over the next few months watch out for videos covering the other four Indy films 👍✈
Please, save your sanity and DO NOT watch the last one! It's a WOKE POS FROM HELL and an absolute insult to the series! It bombed at the box office for a reason. It was an absolute garbage pile!! No one went to see it and no one wants anything to do with it. Stop at the fourth one which was bad enough.
Does this Person LOOK REAL?? AI -Maybe as I Think` so, Look at his lips, and eyes, Hardly does not Blink, and note his face? Also one thing that the film takes place in 1936 Right? Then why the PanAm Plane is flying west as the Golden Gate Bridge is Finish as it fully open in 1937 - Great Lucas & Spielberg Do your history Right that is one mistake in the whole picture.
I'm a huge fan of the first film since I saw it as a wide-eyed teen in 1981 and thought I knew a lot about its production; thanks for providing this awesome backstory!
👍 Raiders showed at a cinema at our local mall for more than a year straight. It was a two screen cinema. I bet I saw it a dozen times in the early 80’s.
you should do the most recent indy film. it has english, german, russian, and american aircraft, inlduing the 707 and a modified He111- and a sikorsky ch53!
NO! The last film was such a dog that even the mutts in the junk yard would avoid it! That was a WOKE trash fire from the moment it was released! Why hurt the kid by having him sit through that feminazi propaganda? After all his hard work you shouldn't punish him with that!
My first reaction to seeing the flying boat in this video was like "That looks like Short Sunderland to me", and first I felt kinda stupid when you went on that whole explanation of the Clipper. Great to see I wasn't entirely wrong after all Edit: It's "Sunderland", not "Sinderland" 😅
This is a really interesting video . I hadn't realised that they had restarted production of the Waco planes and found the segment on those very enlightening , particularly the use of three different engines in the early years . I had thought that the Shorts Solent was an intentional aspect of the film as it would make some historical sense so thanks for clarifying that for Me , I'm sure I'm not the only one who had thought that . The DC3 well that's almost Enough said ! . The final plane had always baffled Me , I had thought of the Horton Bro's creations and also Blohm & Voss , and thought it may well be a Prop ( pun intended ) knocked together by aircraft fans in the props division of the film company & was surprised when I found out where it had actually been built , what a shame it hadn't been saved , it was certainly an impressive looking machine even if none functional . Thanks for anther excellent video , I've been busy lately and am currently on catch up mode regarding My YT viewing . Catch You next flight .
Thanks, good to hear you liked it 👍✈️ I like yourself I have always felt that the Short Solent has fitted quite well into the film's setting. I personally was surprised to see that the prop of the final machine was created by Vickers. See you there 👍✈️
I was lucky enough to fly in a Shorts Sandringham (not a Solent) out of Southampton. VP-LVE. I was always under the impression that that was the aircraft they wanted to use, but ended up using Kermit Weeks' one.
Flying boats were the thing in the 1930s because relatively few airports had terminal facilities and long enough runways to accomadate large passenger aircraft; which no airline wishes to invest in until they were present. Flying boats could use already existing docksides and port facilities. World War Two broke that "chicken vs. egg" paradigm, as suddenly a huge amount of transports, namely C-47s (DC-3s) and C-54s (DC-4s), among other aircraft, were readily available, and even after being refitted with passenger seats and related comforts, quite cheap to acquire. Also, many civilian airports had been expanded both in runway length and with a suitable passenger terminal to accomadate troop movement during the War. As for the German Flying Wing, while it's a remarkable mockup for the film, it's somewhat anachronistic, as by 1936, the actual research of various designers, like the Horten Brothers, was still in its infancy. The Luftwaffe had only just been publicly acknowledged, and its iconic combat aircraft like the Messerschmitt Bf 109 or the Stuka were still on the drawing board or just being flight tested. The Luftwaffe actually at the time had less aircraft than the Polish Air Force, but, of course, that would change rather quickly. Also, IF for some reason the Germans had such a remarkable plane (never mind how the hell did they get a company of infantry with all its light weaponry into BRITISH-controlled Egypt, never mind a bit later the "Nazi" sub pen on some isolated island in the AEGEAN sea some three years prior to WWII erupting? I'm sure the Royal Navy, let alone the Hellenic Navy (Greece) and the Turkish Navy would have had something to say about that!), would they risk it where an ordinary Junkers Ju 52, in LUFTHANSA markings, could have been flown in? The STOL capability of the "Tanta Ju" would have made it far more suitable to landing at and taking off at what was obviously an improvised airfield at Tanis. Indeed, I'm sure the officers and men present, including Oberst Dietrich (Wolf Kahler), didn't just waltz into Egypt in UNIFORM, nor did they just casually have all their gear, weapons and ammo included, in a few trucks, crossing over, probably on the Coast Road, from Italian-controlled Libya. More than likely, an advance party, overseen by Belloch and perhaps a Heer engineering officer, in civilian attire and probably under an alias, had local labor construct the airstrip and set up the facilities; with the men being surreptitiously flown in, and the GERMAN trucks had probably been acquired locally, as MB trucks were exported, rather than shipped all the way from Germany. We see a few Morris trucks, and probably if the production crew could have gotten their hands on a Bedford, that'd been even better. Anyway, it would have made no sense for the Germans to risk what would have been a hugely advanced aircraft for its time in hauling even uber-sensitive cargo, and even with that twin 7.92 mm machine gun turret, it's still a sitting duck if the RAF intervenes.
Hey not a bad summary. Most don't get the OB reference. Oh and under the German 8-Series designation series, the Bv-38 would have been built by Blohm and Voss (although in 1936 they were still using the Ha designator but that's ok)
The bigger difference is the doors. The DC-3 had one passenger door on the right side of the fuselage. The C-47 had a big cargo door on the left side of the fuselage and the C-53 had smaller doors on both sides of the fuselage. In 1936 he should however have been flying a DC2 in Asia because there simply weren’t any DC3’s there yet.
@@jsmutny Actually it is pronounced more like wahco I was wrong ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GAqEnDVhYaI.html from the company it self
Fun fact: you can fight that Nazi flying wing as the boss of Mission 5 in a mobile game called iFighter. The first time I saw that Easter egg, I laughed my ass off so hard.
Anyone else having a Mandela Effect? I would SWEAR the plane designation was C-3P0 🤷♂️ Are you going to tell me the night club in Temple Of Doom is now called Club Anakin?
the Short Solent was real but the sea it sits on was faked. Not computer generated, they did some old fashioned composite photography mashing the water the flying boat together.
Agreed; CGI in 1981 was nowhere near that advanced. (Even "Return of the Jedi" two years later only had wireframes for the Second Death Star hologram). Miniatures were still the default for another decade.
Good research. Thanks for answering the question I’ve had about the flying boat…I felt it was a CGI concoction inspired by the Boeing 314. But now I know the Short Solent. Cool. Regarding pronunciation of Waco and Macon-both named for US towns, Waco, Texas, and Macon, Georgia, respectively. As noted elsewhere here, they are pronounced WAY-co and MAY-c’n.
It definitely is a Short Solent, all sources say it is. And the aircraft used is still on display at the Oakland Aviation Museum. The Solent was developed from the Short Sunderland so they are very similar. In fact, the Solent prototype was originally designated the Sunderland Mk.IV
@@jonathansteadman7935 You are wrong. Wayco is a city in Texas. WAHco is the aircraft made in Troy, Ohio. I have been given rides in Wacos. I have been to the annual fly-in at the Waco Museum at least ten times. Maybe you visit their website.
It is "WAHco". Always has been. The only confusion is by people who don't know what they are talking about. I have been given rides in Wacos several times, and I have been to the Waco fly-in in Troy, Ohio more than a dozen times. I have known at least 6 people who have owned Wacos, and 2 of them were sons of a Waco employee from the 1930's. The Waco Air Museum and Learning Center is there in Troy, just a few miles from the location of the old Waco factory. Perhaps you could contact them and educate yourself. ("WAYco" is a city in Texas.)
Thanks for clearing it up, that's good to know. There's definitely been some dialogue around this in the comments. I did watch some videos on WACO aircraft to try and get it right and found each video had a slightly different way. Thanks for the insight 👍✈
@@jameslester3861 Weaver Aircraft Company was the original name, because Weaver was the front man behind the two guys who really ran the company. After Weaver left, the company was renamed The Advanced Airplane Company building WACO airplanes. Sometime after that, the company was renamed the WACO Aircraft Company, or just WACO.
It is a Short Solent which was derived from the Sunderland. Originally the Solent protype was designated the Sunderland IV but differed enough that it was changed to the Seaford before the Solent. The machine used in the movie is still on display at Oakland Aviation Museum
@@AntiqueAirshowThats cool. It was a 50/50 for me because of the Tree behind you. Im a Florist from germany and we had branches from it in our store and i fought is grows in australia or south africa^^
They did eventually expand the service to continue on from Manila to either Hong Kong or Macao but as far as I know they didn't go any further. Manilla was in many ways the end point of the route across the Pacific.
You are being a bit nitpicky. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. Sorry, if we don't start breaking down everyone into English, Welsh, Scots and whatever.
Originally an English aircraft company, they opened the Belfast factory in 1936 and moved there completely in 1948. Depending when that Solent was built, it could have been made in Rochester, Kent.
Very good short film, but the inappropriate sound level of the music? Really? The production team should have been briefed in advance about priorities, if they were so briefed then they should have been sent back to re-mix the soundtrack, prioritising the twin merlin & their own unique and much loved sound. Congratulations to the Avspecs team for their outstanding work.
