While I can see how these improve the overall usability, but agree a company needs to come out with an all in one, as you mentioned adding these on to the already high cost of arms put these things at too high of a cost.
@@GarageGymReviews @BasementBrandon Griffin Fitness adjustable lever arms has all these features, while costing $900 CHEAPER than what this setup would cost.
Brandon, Griffin Fitness has come out with a great product. Not everyone just does the big 3 lifts, give us competitive bodybuilders some love as well! LOL
I just added the vendetta plates and the Gympin kaizen adapter last night. It was really simple. The vendetta comes with really good instructions with pictures. The Kaizen did not but its fairly obvious what to do and there is a youtube video of someone installing them if you need it. Want constructive criticism would be to offer to sell hinge pins with the Kaizen as a kit.
Yes, they are probably the most cost effective option. Love BOS and have their Cable Tower with weight stack. Quality is not at Rogue level but can’t argue with half the price.
This is a great product for those of us that already have the arms and want to add functionality without completely replacing them! This also lets us help the smaller innovators that seem to be pushing these larger companies that really just sit on their products. Great review as always!
Having a bad back for many years I’ve kinda given up lifting heavy dumbbells. Tossing up 70-80-90-100 lb dumbbells suck if you’ve got some back issues or shoulder issues. With the vendetta and the kaizen adapters it’s very easy to mimic dumbbell movements in various positions without stressing your low back and shoulders to get them in position. Great products. If you could pick only one-I agree vendetta first. Thanks for all the great reviews.
I am the same way after training/competing in bodybuilding for so many years, I can not throw up heavy dumbbells for shoulder or or incline chest press anymore. I purchased those spotter arm brackets that you can place the dumbbells in on your power rack and to be honest they actually work really well and save my shoulders. (yea they can be a pain in the ass setting up and placing the dumbbells in the brackets, but it is worth it.). I am looking forward to getting my Vendetta adapters. in the next few weeks.
As someone who has the exact setup here in the video, let me say honestly that I am blown away you did not mention the griffin fitness lever arms. I just received mine two days ago and they come included with everything shown in this video built-in and more, all from a small family business and for less than half the price for this setup shown. Now I am a rogue fan for sure, they have the best trolley system for the 2.0 but wow..... griffin blows these out of the water in every other way. Best lever arms available with great side to side movement & I believe 6 starting positions you can lock them in at for varying heights.
I agree the Griffin Lever arms are awesome, I just wish they were available before I had purchased my Rep Fitness ISO Arms as I definitely would have bought the Griffin Fitness ones. I actually bought the Griffin Fitness Mono Lift and they work well for a great cost. (and very lightweight) I spent over $800 for Irwin Fitness Mono lift but they were so damn heavy over 40 pounds each! (I had to sell them). I know mutant metal has a great mono lift as well. I am glad you are enjoying your Lever arms, I have to wait a few weeks until I receive my Vendetta adapters.
@@sigmundwa1 I plan on submitting a review tonight on the official product page, however if you want me to write one here for you I'd be happy too! I have only had them for about 5 days now but I have tested them thoroughly.
@@raps7027 I am loving them and i am also lucky enough to have a pair of the 15 inch 45mm mutant metal handles to use with these arms and i personally love mutant metals so much. the handles griffin provides are great but they are not knurled and i like deep knurling for my press days
The Vendetta’s for the REP ISO Arms are a HUGE upgrade in functionality. In this video we only saw the Rogue version which is very good. But the amount of functionality on the REP is a lot. The factory brackets are cumbersome and VERY HEAVY making them a workout within the workout, with the Vendetta’s is very easy to slide up and down with a smooth trolley system, and can be locked in more angles compared to the Rogue ones. I’ve had it for a few weeks after reaching out to Britton and fortunately he had an extra pair from the prior batch, I got them and boy what a difference does it make. The Gym Pin I’ve been thinking of it but as Coop said, if I had a choice (and I did) get the Vendetta’s first. I’m VERY pleased with the product and the service
@baezmd- That's great, I also have the Rep ISO arms but can be a pain in the ass setting them up for a specific list such as shoulder Press or Chest Press. I have to alway's set up my Spotter arms and then have the ISO arms rest on top of them as a fixed position. I ordered a pair from Britton a few weeks ago after waiting for about 3 months (Sold out). He stated I should receive mine sometime in August. I just hope they don't interfere too much with my Ares Functional trainer on my Power Rack.
@@raps7027 those brackets make a difference of night and day in terms of functionality. Is like you just got a new pair of them that actually work. My rack is an 80” tall, I assume that the interference with the Athena or Area is relative to one’s height, I’m thinking about getting one of those but still not decided yet. Let me know how it works for you. Is your rack an 80” too?
@@raps7027 I have the Vendetta arms on my Ares 93" rack. They work well but will limit how low you can drop the front pulleys. So if you are doing low pulley movements off the front of the rack, just know that the lowest position of the front pulleys will be about a foot or so up from the floor. Another thing to mention, the bolts that hold the Vendetta to the rack will rub against the Ares cable as you slide the trolly up and down. Not a huge problem but could introduce premature wear on the cable. I had some left over UHMW tape that I put on the nut where it comes into contact with the cable. Seems to help
@@baezmd I would think an 80" rack with Ares may be too low to use with lever arms. Do you already have the ISO arms and do they work for you now with the Ares?
The vendetta adapters are a very clean, refined, and thought out product. I wish the other products/attachments he has in his videos on Instagram were out. To be able to do nordic curls, ghd and reverse hyper movements, preacher curls, and it looks like it would work as something like the GOAT attachment if he will start selling the adjustable knee roller pad (think lat pulldown using your uprights).
I Love both they a must have. It burns me up that big companies lije Rep and Rogue haven't fixed theirs on the fly. I sold my Rep ISO and bought the Rogue version 2 because of the trolly. Then added both adaptors
I have almost the same setup with 360deg plates from Savage Strength in the UK and the newer version of the Kaizen adapter. Absolutely awesome combination, I love it.
Given the base cost of jammer arms, especially the Rogue arms, I think these add-ons are priced well. The Kaizen adapters in particular are much bigger and beefier when you see them in person versus just seeing them online. As with all things jammer arms, if you take the time to figure out setups you like they can be very versatile and a good option. I also think that people sometimes forget that they were really designed and built for ballistic type movements, not to replicate Hammer Strength machines. However, these adapters do go along way to making them more useful for those other types of movements. I'd also love to see a review on the opposite side of the spectrum of something like the Signature Fitness Lever Arms. They're $130 for a 2"x2" free motion lever arm that can attach to any 3"x3" rack with a 5/8", 3/4", or 1" hole (though you need a separate adapter to get a tighter fit on the bigger hole racks). They don't have any of the locking features, but for $130 they could be a good option for someone that wants to try out lever arms before dropping 10x that on the Rogue version.
I think the Griffin adjustable lever arms are more in line cost wise for most people. $900 cheaper for the same functionality. Not sure why there wasn’t a mention in the review about them.
Hey coop like the show! two things 1. does it hook up to the lightning f35? 2. IF you can do a comparison with other jammers like the MAJOR FITNESS LEVER ARMS, that would be great.
Would love to see a review of the griffin arms (seems like they do everything these do other than maybe a few less starting points for the arms vs the vendetta adapters) and also the Irwin ones. The jammer arm market is exploding
I own the Griffin adjustable and converging jammer arms ($899.99 shipped) and they are awesome. They came with mag pins as well for all the adjustments... I added a separate rack for jammer arms because they require practically permanent space on the front of a rack and can greatly hinder the complete functionality of an Ares or Athena attachment...
Hey Coop could you review the signature fitness lever arms? They are very inexpensive, work with almost any rack, and have built in side to side motion.
Biggest miss of this video: Griffin Fitness sells adjustable lever arms that have ALL these features, 180 degree locking, as well as converging arms in addition to the trolley/lever arm for $900 CHEAPER than what this whole setup would cost.
@@joenikiforakis5829 Inside reduces the need to remove and put it back on, for example, if you have the ARES attachment built into your rack, having the jammer arms on the outside would interfere, but on the inside, there is no problem
@@avinashtyagi2this won't fit in a rack either. It extends the length by 7". The short arms just fit inside the rack without the gym pin so it wouldn't fit anymore.
I already have this except my arms are titan not rogue. The Kaizen adapters and the vendetta adapters are a must have. I now use my jammer arms almost every workout. Also, with the kaizen adapters for titan, they don't have a key, they use a regular pin.
Vendetta - Great invention. Love it's a grass roots American based product. Having said that, lead time is crazy as is the $36 to ship domestically. Seems a bit much for 4 plates and some hardware. Surely could be sent USPS Priority Mail with tracking for half that....? In the end, I've ordered mine today, as the RG 2.0 magically showed up today.
Theoretically - could you build jammer arms out of the vendetta adapters (w or w/o the gym pin), a 3" x 3" post cut to size or cross member or whatever spare rack piece you can find, a weight horn to load plates, and a handle? Would any components be missing? I'm thinking this would get pretty close but unclear on how the vendetta adapters connect to the rack? Would be interesting to see if you could start from scratch and get this setup piece by piece more economically than buying the arms and retrofitting with the adapters.
Took long enough. Video was needed like a year ago lol. I’ve had mine for about that long lol. Didn’t care for the kaizen adapter but the vendetta arms are where it’s at
Coop are there videos that show how to assemble both the Vendetta and the Gympin KAizen ??? I just got both of mine for the Rogue Trolley version 2. But I can t find a video anywhere.
Hey Coop, how difficult/easy is the vendetta trolley to attach to the upright? I have a rep rack with the Athena system, so I couldn’t leave the vendetta on there and still use the Athena. I’d have to attach and remove the trolleys every time I used the iso arms.
Coop! Can you review the Force USA Leg press Hack squat as well as the GMWD leg press hack squat? Both good prices and seem to be way better than the Titan fitness version
Coop, would love to see a compact leg sled comparison. Powertec just came out with a redesigned version and would like to see how it stacks up to others.
I have a Rep rack with dual athena cables but wondering if there are any jammer arms that can be put ON and taken OFF easily not connected always to the rack?
If it can swivel 360 so that it removes 100% of the stability, then couldn't I achieve that with dumbbells? The purpose of these arms is so the movement is on a fixed plane that adds stability so you can focus on force output to work the targeted muscle instead of having to also worry about stability.
Love adding versatility to my Jammer arms, don't see a lot in the market for articulating handles. There's Rogue's AH-1 kit and RORMAN STRENGTH-Megalith Handles, both that allow a more natural travel path vs the curve you get from the fixed lever arm plane. I am not sure if Rogue's will fit with the jammer arms rotated post-Kaizen Gym Pin install, and Rorman's is sold out. Is there anything else on the market? Any help is appreciated.
Hey Coop, does the Vendetta increase the length of the jammer arms? Would you still be able to use the vendatta arms on a rogue short configuration inside the rack?
Thx for this one Coop! Now I’m curious about the pros/cons of having a vendetta/arms on the front of the rack as the same time as REP’s Athena/Ares trolleys. Also can you share any details on those knurled handle shafts and the adapters they’re attached to please
I see those are probably from the rogue articulating handles kit….Haha add another $500. Yikes that’s pushin $2000 after shipping/taxes for everything shown for something most won’t use to their full ability. I’ve had lever arms before but the vendetta/kaizen combo is a game changer for lever arms only
Have you looked into syedee products? They seem to be Walmart hammer strength. I’ve recently been getting a lot of ads for them and they seem interesting if they are durable
Is it just me or are jammer arms the Emperor's New Clothes? I think you could do those exercises with either a barbell, dumbbells or set of rings. Thoughts please.
I'm in the camp that sold jammer arms after about 6-8 months bc I didn't use them as much as they were in the way of other workouts. Have to say that both of the products are really impressive. Love that Kaizen adapter especially.
I’ve been wanting the vendetta adapters for my Titan arms for the longest but I don’t know how to go about ordering them. Their website says they’re out of stock and I’ve added myself to the email list but haven’t seen any news on when they’ll be back in stock. If anyone has any news on how to get them I’d really appreciate it
Other question I have - would putting lever arms on an ares hurt the functionality of either? I don't think it would hurt the arms if they tucked up tight to the ares trolleys, but could see losing functionality of the functional trainer trolleys in the low position if jammer arms lived on your rack
Im looking for jammer arms that would fit the Force USA G15 cable/smith machine. Currently, they only come in an upgrade package at £899 which is a lot. Do you know any jammer arms compatible with the G15 machine?
Without a doubt adjustable dumbbells first. That’s what I did. But both will work differently, you get more isolation with the lever than with the dumbbells, but dumbbells will give you a compound approach to smaller muscles. Dumbbells are higher on the totem pole by far in terms of versatility. Nevertheless if you already have the jammer arms (in my case REP ISO) it adds the functionality to make the workout faster and more precise, the vendetta’s are a very good addition. As a matter of fact for the REP ISO Arms the impact of using the vendetta’s is higher since you not only get the ability to slide the arms with the ease but also to lock them in position. But to your point…. Dumbbells first FOR SURE!
For the Gym Pin adapters, do they allow you to lock them into a plain of motion, or do the just make them free floating? I’d like to use them for converging chest press, but I specifically like a Hammer Strength matching because the fixed plain allows me to really grind out the final reps.
I will find out in a few weeks when I receive mine, however I reached out to Britton (owner of Vendetta) and he stated they were adaptable with the Ares. You just have to slide the the Ares to the top when using the Jammer arms. If I slide the cable to the bottom you may be correct about the cable being in the way? Not actually sure how that will work for me? But I feel I can do most exercises with the Ares on the top out of the way.
The question is who is this product for? People who primarily train body-building at home. These attachments make a Jammer a viable replacement for all the Hammer Strength Press and Pull machines. Vs actually buying the individual machines these are really cost effective.
I can't wrap my head around the cost. The Rogue jammer arms were way overpriced anyway, but chuck in the adapters and you're around $1800 BEFORE shipping! Meanwhile, the GLS jammer arms from Primal strength in the UK have all the same functionality with the exception of the locked convergence position of the Kaizen adaptors for a little over the equivalent of $600 shipped to my door!
@@KaizenDIYGym That wasn't a dig at you Kyle! It's just the price of everything put together after the crazy price of the Rogue jammer arms themselves!
@@KaizenDIYGym are there any jammer arms that will fit the monster lite racks, that are not the rogue ones? I am looking for jammer arms that can be bought in the Uk, that fit 75mm racks with 5/8 pin holes. cheers. Ian
I have a set of the original articulating jammer arms and the updated ones. Would recommend for the price. Can't imagine using them without articulation.
You forgot to mention that the Vendatta arms are never in stock. I have been trying to purchase the ISO version for a year now with no luck. I guess that is the downside of working with a small business with limited resources
These are great but there's something better. Jordan Fitness make a revolving jammer arm in their HELIX range, you can set the angle of the jammer arms to make it into a diverging or converging press/pull. Idk how it hasn't caught on more
Pretty sure those are from Rogue. It’s an add on they call articulating handles. Seems to get mixed reviews but looks interesting. Way cheaper to buy with the arms at the front end than buying separate later on.
I am having a very hard time contacting the company. Are they still in business? I have sent several emails but no response. I want to buy these for my REP ISO arms. Can someone provide me with contact info please.
