The ULTIMATE Kingdom Hearts Character Tier List 

I'll give it a 69th like. Nice.

This is actually a good tier list.

Man, can’t wait for kingdom hearts 3.9 to come out in 14 years!

Could you do a tier list videos about the games??

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thank u!!

Perfect

I have a theory that she was trapped by Malicifent for years. In the Union Cross finale, we see Elrena show up at the mountain leading to Malicifent’s castle. It’s possible Malicifent did something to her to cause her to become so bitter. Though that’s just a theory of mine. 🤔

I thought her name was Arlene before I saw this.

@@runningoncylinders3829 No, Union Cross confirmed her somebody is called 'Elrena'.

Funnily enough, makes me think of how Young Xehanort and the Chess Xehanort were drastically different. But Larxene is the female version of that. Really strange and I kind of hope there's some sort of explanation for her changing like that.

I agreeeee, Larxene is such a fun character. I also I thought it was something like Nobodies can possibly have a change their personalities compared to their somebody...even if it is a slight change.

Yup, that's true

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The fact that Riku had the best redemption arc based on a full circle regarding the darkness makes it so much funnier cuz it’s thoroughly true 😂

Considering Marluxia and Saix are getting more attention it’s extremely plausible. Not to mention they did bring up how he was an orphan back in BBS

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Considering that the writers like the trend of making new Keyblade wielders, I wouldn't be surprised if Ienzo's dad looked similar to him but with a goatee and wielded a keyblade that looked similar to his book weapon.

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE You know, ever since we learned Ienzo was an orphan, I've always wondered who his parents were. Even though KH hasn't gone into any real familial territory, I can't help but wonder if his parents were important at some point, like someone from the more immediate past prior to BbS. Also Ienzo, as well as all the other Org. members, their backstories aren't fully fleshed out. I'd love to get into more of a deep dive into each character's backstory. A lot of pieces are still missing... much like Marluxia and Larxene's memories of their true selves, as if someone had tampered with their memories, altered them. Axel may have told Roxas and Xion that everyone else remembers their true selves, but we now know that's not entirely true. Either he wasn't in on the memory tampering, or he just wasn't told about it. I can totally see Xemnas forcing his hand into getting Lauriam and Elrena's memories altered for them to join his side.

in my opinion, there aren't many well written, charismatic, interesting personalities in kingdom hearts at all, fun voice acting and show boating aside, so it's interesting that sora is being singled out here, probably because of main character fatigue syndrome. in fact, i would argue the exact opposite, that sora is actually one of the few characters who has a compelling and dynamic perspective to explore, given the extent of all of his adventures and how they have affected him, yet the kingdom hearts plot actually does sora a disservice by focusing on trying to develop everyone but him. case in point: roxas, who is essentially another side of sora, yet the story retcon takes the easy route separating them rather than allowing any kind of meaningful integration, simply because they have different faces. sora is easily both a good protagonist and a good character, as someone who is hopeful, moral, kind, determined, yet less than perfect, and extremely relatable. however, i agree that the sky (ha) is the limit for his character, and hope to see the upcoming stories reflect that.

@@silversauceran i agree. sora's actually been my favorite since i was really little. i love how kind he is, and how he always wants others to be happy :)

@@silversauceran Glad I'm not the only one. All the other characters in this series seem to get all the good writing, personality and development while Sora just doesn't seem to. I've noticed this in other media as well and I hope that in the upcoming games that changes

EXACTLY

i’d say she truly is my favorite character

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

@CreamyIceCreamBoi Ok, I agree with you about her story in Days, but what part of her "conclusion" in KH3 was more satisfying than any other main character? I'd argue she was one of the ones that got brushed off the WORST, after being brought back through incredibly contrived and utilitarian means, with no acknowledgement of the sacrifices she's made or what she was able to achieve despite living in a world that didn't seem to have enough space for her. She BARELY got to talk to Roxas and Axel, let alone reconcile their past falling out. Got no real resolution with Siax or Xemnas (not ever discovering the former's efforts to save her, and the latter only viewing her as a "useless puppet" right till the very end, spitting in the face of everything she's worked to prove), and her general lack of contribution, action, and screentime in the end of KH3 failed to narratively justify her return in the eyes of many people. I dunno.. I just don't see what there is to praise about her appearance in KH3. It's wasteful and lazy at worst, and barely serviceable at BEST. Of course, none of that is the fault of Xion herself, so I can thankfully compartmentalize and not let that influence my perception of the character in the story regardless. Even with her lackluster return though, she's definitely above C tier at least, for sure.

The more the moments hit were he looses his composure that screaming moment in KH3 gave me goosebumps and I got so pumped up when Sora killed the organization Members left and right

He's like a mix of Mickey,Zack,and Tidus.

I personally think DDD and KH3 lowered his rank. KH1 and 2 Sora is definitely A rank because he actually showed growth. DDD and KH3 took a half step back with Sora personality of being too innocent.

Who knew olette was so based

it seems the manga is just better at writing the girls. I'll have to check it out lmao

The manga isn't canon. Unlike the novels, who are third-tier canon.

I mean let’s be honest she ironically didn’t need to exist.

@@emilianoizanagi2245 and, both fittingly and paradoxically, that's the point. she was created because xemnas didn't expect sora to yield a nobody. her identity is based on memories belonging to someone else. she's the 3rd member of a trio of nobodies who never should've existed and were destined to die in the first place. what xion proved, however, is that "purpose" and "right to exist" are all dependent on how others see you and how you see yourself. it's subjective. sora wanted roxas to be his own person because both he and roxas saw him as his own person. roxas and axel wanted xion to live because both they and her saw her as her own person. however, axel didn't return as his own person because axel himself thought he was the same guy more or less. he stated that to roxas and xion so they just ran with it. xion's appearance to other people changes based on how said people see her. and her value changes along with it. saïx saw her as just a hooded puppet and treated her as such. xemnas saw her as sora because her purpose to him was to keep sora in a coma and use her as a sora replacement (and that carried to kh3). roxas and axel- you get the point. whose perspective is correct? who's wrong? there is no objective answer because the value we place on people and things is up to interpretation. being artificial doesn't matter. if freaking toys, a wooden puppet, and data people can become their own hearts, then so can a replica who has made an impact on the people around her and who strives to be her own person.

It’s crazy, because I think the sea salt trio are all S tier, at least for me. Compared to the other trio’s I think most would agree.

i love xion too. but don’t be sad, it’s just that nico has forgotten who she was like 10x thru/o the series😔

@@AigisVibes720 Xion is good, but she's not S-tier good lol. She's definitely the weakest link in the trio.

"There. Now you're on your last leg."

BBS unfortunately had some clumsy writing. Xehanort was right about what he said about Eraqus, but he also so obviously villainous Eraqus to manipulate Terra. I don't think the writers put enough emphasis on Eraqus's "blinded by the light" dynamic, because we only get a chance to see it at the beginning and at the end. Personally, I don't dislike Terra. Eraqus failed him for matters his control, and Xehanort encouraged him when Eraqus put him down for not developing exactly as he wanted. Terra probably felt like he wasted his time and effort after he failed the exam, and that made him easy to manipulate.

@@dungeonmaster3464 I don’t think Xehanort obviously being the villain should be considered bad writing. Besides, I felt they make it pretty obvious Eraqus isn’t the perfect father figure that he was originally made out to be. Him trying to kill Ven is a perfect example of that

I saw your comment before Nico got to Larxene, and I still wasn't prepared for the roast.

bro i felt it

Really?? KH2 Sora had his moments but I personally thought he was the weakest. I’d personally say KH3 & CoM Sora is peak since I felt he got pushed over his limits the most in those games.

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE damn weaker than DDD? I felt like he was very charismatic in 2 while also being serious whenever he needed to be. The portrayal of his emotions and voice acting was done very well by Haley imo. It really felt like he got older from kh1 and com. Seeing him struggle in hollow bastion with the weight of being a keyblade wielder was a great moment to me. I feel like kh3 Sora had some of that ddd shit where they made him overly goofy left over and they made it seem like he was completely useless without his friends. His friends are his power but we’ve seen how strong he is on his own. As for Com Sora, funnily enough I don’t remember too much about him. I just remember him being nice to Namine and being confused.

@@RayeedW I mean, Sora has always been goofy. That’s a big part of his charm. At least in my eyes. My problem with KH2 Sora is that they really didn’t do a whole lot of interesting things with him. His story was basically just to find Riku & Kairi. And I personally felt they didn’t handle that nearly as well as they did in KH1. That being said, he still had good moments. Like when he was all giddy about meeting Santa in Holloween Town & that talk Riku after defeating Xemnas. Those are easily his best moments in 2 IMO

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Yeah I’m completely fine with him being goofy sometimes but when they really exaggerate that characteristic is when I personally don’t like it. To each their own though.

@@RayeedW that’s fine agree to disagree

Both Roxas and Xion are S tier for me, best girl and best boy. I wanna see more of them in future games too.

Pfffft

hot long hair riku will always live on in our hearts

@@duhneez2068 I agree

And he already loves Roxas enough to call him his son. He’s going to need to create a SSS tier lol.

I love the manga for Days. It gives so much more characterization to the organization members and honestly makes them that much more interesting than their game counterparts

For me it was always the sheer absurdities of his actions that made it work. In that sense Xehanort also works, though I do prefer his other incarnations to master Xehanort, mainly because they have more charisma.

I hope he plays 1,2, and eternal punishment.

@@leithazizpagy4699 well 1 is very important to the 2 duology story and I think its aged well enough and has a good story that it’s worth playing at least once.

@@VincentEternal it'd be really cool if he played 2

My first KH game was also KH 358/2 days, my cousin knew the plot of KH CoM and we were utterly confused when we talked about the good and bad guys in the story.

He still has to play the Vs. crossover with Professor Layton in my opinion.

yea 🥺🥺🥺 that’s his lil brother

Ff dissidia was originally planned as a kh game, but Disney didn't want to show Donald and mickey in a fighting game, so they used ff characters instead

@@misterfevillord1588 I am kinda glad that happen. That way I got to know and love Shantotto.

@@sofaris576 true, but fighting with xigbar or luxord would have been so cool! Or Donald duck!

@@misterfevillord1588 Just wanna correct you on something. It wasn't Disney who denied the idea. It was Tetsuya Nomura himself. I believe he said it in the 358/2 Days ultimania? Though, I could be wrong.

Well, someone did make a really good mod for Dissidia that replaces most of the characters music and locations with Kingdom Hearts characters music locations. The movesets actually lineup really well especially Riku over squall. I wish I could have also replace the voices but they just turn them off

If only I saw it as a kid since that scene was final mix exclusive

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE We were all watching it in Japanese on youtube back in the day :^p

The Japanese voice actor passed away a little after kh2. So, like with Phil, they didn't give him a replacement out of respect to the VA. And such, his contributions to the plot were cut. But i have the feeling Nomura had bigger plans for him at the beginning. He is the member III of the organization and had a close relationship with xigbar. And he received a lot of new scenes in kh2fm. If only they gave replacements to voice actors

Also Ben Diskin is amazing voicing him

Terra is basically what happens when a sheltered prodigy is thrown into the outside world with no real preparation whatsoever. He's a great character who is also flawed, a solid B-tier in my eyes and possibly more.

Also when aqua beat terra-xehanort terra was also helping and holding him back the absolute tank

Strength alone doesn't make for an interesting character. That's just superficial. It's all about execution, narrative cohesion, emotional resonance, strong arcs that are well bookended, etc. So, I'm really inclined to ask (without being rude or dismissive): why would that matter? 😕

@@DLxxx because he's strength is exactly why he was targeted by villains. You can't just remove strength from the equation cause that affects peoples lifes fiction or not.

@@DLxxx I misunderstood the goal of the video. Off top I thought it was a power tier list and Terra was the first one mentioned. Mid typing I realized I was mistaken but I still wanted to comment on how powerful he is, so I left it here so people can enjoy. But I do think his power adds a cool factor wortg considering that people often ignore.

I can understand why we didn’t but I do agree a few scenes like that would have been nice

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Ahhh. I see you too are on the side of JUSTICE. Tell me: what do you think of joining my top secret Ace Attorney Xehanort Crossover Harem

Barbecue party 😂

KH3 did a pretty lackluster job giving the true organization characters the catharsis and resolution many of them needed. Ansem had a nice speech, but absolutely nothing beyond that (aside from ruining Aqua's entire narrative). Xemnas constantly used and abused his subordinates, and rather than have him come to regret that naturally, he just suddenly states that he misses the original organization 13, and feels lonely right at the very end. This is made even more hard to swallow with Remind, where he CONTINUES to dismiss RAX as "useless pawns", and neither party gains a better understanding of the other. It was heavily implied at multiple points in Days that Xemnas held an unspoken respect and soft spot for Roxas, due to his resemblance of Ventus, yet this detail never gets any pay off. He also never acknowledged Xion's sacrifice (in fact, no one does, which is UNBELIEVABLE). Or the fact that she disproved his ideals and was able to exert her will over her own circumstances in 358. Siax gets no closure with either of them too. We're just supposed to believe Roxas knew about his involvement in his return, as well as Ansem the Wise's involvement, even though he couldn’t have possibly known ANY of these things (no one in the main cast even knew Ansem the Wise was alive and active for the whole game). It's such a waste of the themes and ideas that could've been explored.

@@DLxxx Can’t agree with that. All of the organization members were given amazing conclusions IMO. And I honestly don’t think Saix’s story is done yet. The only one I’ll give you is Vanitas as I feel his story could have been explored more. However quick thing I should mention. The reason why no one mentions Xion’s sacrifice should be obvious. Everyone forgot who she was.

Exactly! That’s what makes him so tragic

Yeah I can give him at least mid C or low C tier TBH

One hundred percent agree on the whole "copy" aspect. Mainly because, if Kid Icarus showed me anything it's that even if two characters are technically the same person they can still be vastly different in personality and the "copy" can still be just as interesting or more than the "original."

And just like how Yen Sid is Disney backwards, Eraqus is an anagram of Square, referring to the relationship of the two companies that own the franchise.

This IS a videogame after all

As punishment NicoB must play some Motherflippin FRUITBAALLLL for eternity.

YES 😁

Nah when a person is consumed by Darkness, their heart turns into the heartless. & The body that is left behind becomes the nobody as you said. I do agree it’s a bit weird that both describe the opposites tho lol. Though Tbf they both have the exact same attributes. Heartless don’t have hearts either just like nobodies.

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE How does KH3 assert that all Org XIII members had hearts if they were nobodies? I didn't get that at all...

@@Vic_Trip All Dream Drop Distance revealed was that the organization members were able to grow their hearts back over time. So when they first became nobodies they still had no hearts. If you rewatch the cutscenes for 358 you can even see this in action through Roxas. At the beginning Roxas showed barley any emotions. However over the course of the game, he started acting more human as he hung out with Axel & Xion. That was when he grew a heart. They even compare this to Pinocchio in Pranksters Paradise and the Toys in Toy Box. If even an empty puppet is able to grow a heart, then so can nobodies too.

It's only a matter of time before he does an Ace Attorney tier list

Tbh I don't mind that so much, as the moments between Namine and Roxas were super brief and more exposition-y than times where we see any chemistry. It felt more like "Sora and Kairi are booed up so I guess Roxas and Namine have to be too." Compared to Roxas literally learning what feelings are as he worked alongside Axel and Xion.

@@bouclechocolat I guess my issue is with how it ends so abruptly. I really liked the dynamic of “we’re in the same sinking boat but let’s make the best of what we’ve been dealt with”, but they literally never interact after the end of KH2. Personally, it just makes Xion seem so much more retcon-y (regardless of whether she actually is or not) with how quickly Namine is brushed aside.

@@Minishroom123 that's fair! I do wish Namine had more time to shine too, not even necessarily as an accessory to Roxas, because her arc of learning to stand up for herself against Marluxia and Larxene really made me love her to bits, and I think that development was maintained well with her disobeying DiZ in 2.

Repliku is dead

I honestly think it’s not fair to compare the 2 lol. Xehanort is a FAR better written character than Junko especially