Something I have to recommend is to always read the Lenovo PSREF documents. It is the real configuration/spec sheet. Tells you exactly what is upgradable, what kind of slot things are, capabilities of every slot and what material the top cover, keyboard deck and bottom shell is made of. CFRP, GFRP, ABS plastic, aluminum or magnesium alloy. Some laptops have options for which material its made of which can really really affect the rigidity, mechanical stability, robustness and general feel of the laptop. Some of the options are extremely different like two different laptops with exact same marketing model name/number have ABS plastic bottom shell or aluminum bottom shell.
Buyer beware: thoroughly test these laptops before making a purchase. The U CPUs are sluggish, particularly due to over-aggressive turbo TDPs and inadequate cooling, resulting in excessive throttling. For this reason, I was forced to switch to the P series about five years ago (after using the T series for years). A number of my colleagues did the same. While these laptops excel in battery life, never expect sustained performance from them. Perhaps the AMD version is better but it was not an option for me, unfortunately.
@@Meulkiethe OLED screen is 400 not still, but it’s 1800p instead of 1200p , OLED display so much better color ratio , deeper blacks, and also 120hz if we’re talking about gen 5.
Too bad about PWM flickering on the OLED panels. Especially because I can't imagine using an OLED at full brightness, so for sure there would be flickering on the 60Hz model. But perhaps not noticable on the T14s at 364 Hz?
You would really have to test that since I do not have problems with OLEDs in general. It is a very subjective thing. Generally speaking, the T14s might be a safer bet in this regard since it has the higher frequency!
It's not subjective when your eyes are sensitive, I can tell from experience. Thank you very much for doing the PWM tests diligently. I've been relying on them for years and I'm sure many others too. @@NotebookcheckReviews
My first thinkpad will be the T14 Gen 4 and this is my current specs so far :D - Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 PRO 7840U Processor (3.30 GHz up to 5.10 GHz) - Memory: 32 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered) sucks but what can I do lol - Solid State Drive: 1 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal - Display: 14" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 100%sRGB, 400 nits, 60Hz, Low Power, Low Blue Light
Did you get this? What is your expereince with fan noise? Does the fan spin up a lot of the time? I have had various x1s over the last 11 years and I am done. Moving to T14 or T14s with AMD.
My answer to the webcam/mic question is the X13 Yoga was probably best microphone of the ones you sampled. TBH, they are all pretty bad. As for the webcams, I don't think I have an opinion on that. Thanks for the video.
Why did they decide to add that hideous bump where the camera was supposed to be? If it were lack o space, they should have just do it the way it was done already in the past, making space inwards where the beveled part of the palmrest was, sparing us all that wrist pain with these new models.
Great summary! Such a shame that manufacturers like Lenovo also reduce the modularity / upgradeability of their laptop product lines. First their removable batteries that got fixed, soldered RAM, soldered WiFi and in the future soldered SSD. Only for marginal gains. It is bad for the consumer and bad for the environment, but probably good for their sales/profits.
I wonder if it's not only the manufacturers' fault but also the customer's asking for ever-thinner devices. And maybe RAM and WiFi cards do not fail as often or need to be upgraded as frequently, so it might just make more sense for the majority of devices to solder these components?! I am not saying that this is the way it should be; just thinking aloud! ;)
Thank you for this very helpful video. Will you be reviewing the T16 G3 laptop just released in Canada and the US, but only for the Intel U but not for the H Series Core Ultra 5 / 7 processor.
There is a slight difference in color between them: While the X13 (Yoga) G4 and T14s G4 are both using the color Lenovo calls "Pure Black" for the chassis, the other two are "Thunder Black", which is a dark grey. Lenovo is going back to the darker black on newer systems, which looks better/more premium than the dark grey.
Quite a bit offtopic, but: - when can we expect video/written review of the XMG Fusion/Core? I'm waiting specifically for your review of it before buying. - when can we expect the Discord server? :D
There will be a mobile GPU 2024 overview video quite soon with the 4060 Fusion, amongst others (it's very fast ;) But apparently, it will be a little longer until we get a final review sample. The Discord Server will come soon with channel subscriptions, I just have to sit down and set it all up. I hope I can manage before computex!
Haven't the T14/T14s gen 5 2024 with Core Ultra and Ryzen 8040 series already been launched? Why didn't mention these new models instead of the old 2023 2022 models?
pretty sure they come with qualcomm wifi chips (for amd anyway) in the netherlands at least. Do you know if these are good? I just got the Yoga Pro 9i 2024 in, but the numpad squeezed into the device is something I surprisingly disliked a LOT. Everything is shifted left so I am looking at either a 16 without numpad, or 14 inch. T16 is crazy expensive here but T14 is a great deal and T14S is on sale ( 1200 / 1500 respectivly, 32GB Ryzen 7 OLED on both)
Yeah, the AMD variants come with the Qualcomm Wifi chips that performed much better in our testing. I totally get what you mean about the shifted trackpad on 16" Lenovos. That always takes me some time to get used to, as well!
Thanks for the great comparison. I am an accountant while the T16 is a great option in terms of screen size and number pad, I am leaning towards T14s because of portability plus I always use external screen. Do you think the T14s gen 3 AMD with 400 nit screen is still relevant? There is a good deal at Lenovo website for that. Thanks
I chose the T14 because it’s the only laptop that comes in an OLED variation, has Mobile Intergradation , and comes in 14” all at the same time other than the expensive X1 Carbon.
Would you be able to recommend a 16 inch with Ryzen 7840 / Core ultra 7 levels that doesn't have a numpad? I only know the Spectre in premium range, I use for development. Thinkpads also have numpads sadly lol. I don't use it as a desktop replacement, hell as a software dev I don't even own numpads!
I've been trying to get the X13 with the 7840U and the storm grey color for quite some time now, and right as I was going to buy one, the price suddenly skyrocketed. Pretty upsetting honestly.
It looks pretty good. Ryzen 8000HS or Intel Ultra with RTX A500 and finally the P14s Gen 5 and T14 Gen 5 reurn to SODIMM RAM. The P14s is a bit thicker and has an RJ45 port, higher power components. Idk about the build differences but it should b similar to T14.
Well, the 4070 will give you overall better gaming/general GPU performance. That said, the difference between a 4060 and 4070 at similar wattages is only about 10-15%, and if you pair the 4060 with a faster CPU, then the difference can be even smaller depending on the game and resolution. It comes down to price between these two configs, but 4060 systems usually offer a better price-to-performance ratio.
t14 is thicker but has built in ethernet port t14s has better chassis (less plastic) the oled screen usually is not not flicker free. i chose the low power 400 nits non touch
@@NotebookcheckReviews Well in Europe all the Thinkpad T/P series are 2,000 euros and above. For that price you can find more affordable laptops with even better specs, for example Asus Zenbook 14 OLED with Core Ultra 7 155H & 32GB & 1TB & OLED 2.5K costs 1,500 euros. Isn't it a better deal than a T14s?
The business folks might not need a lot more ;) And these things are highly customizable; just because we have certain review configs does not mean that it's your only option.
The trackpoint must not disappear! It has been a staple feature in every ThinkPad since the IBM era. A ThinkPad without the red trackpoint is no ThinkPad.
