it appears I'm a little late to the party, but this was fantastic. I wanted to buy some black 4.0 for some mini painting. However what's the fun of a miniature if i can't let ppl pick it up to get a closer look, it's for fun not a museum piece! I'm gonna try to get my hands on Musou black. it looks the best IMO. thanks
In your tests, you even called out Musou being thinner than 4.0. I had issues with the Black 3.0 and Black 4.0 when I first used them, too. However, if you thin it down with water, it ends up being more like Musou and is easier to work with (hence why you think an airbrush might be better).
I think if I ever did a project with 4.0 I’d look to use an airbrush and then thin it as well for that. I’ve since used the Musou in my gold test video (it’ll be out one day) primarily just because it’s paint and go ie I don’t have to do anything special like the black 4.0. There’s a certain charm to just grabbing a paint and going😂
@@StuffBySunshine This is true. The type of acrylic painting I do generally requires me to mix my paints anyway, so it's not an extra step. I do agree, though, that the Musou did appear blacker in your video.
I have a question can you use any of these blackest black paints black 3.0-4.0 or musou on plastics and is there any way to protect that paint layer once it’s dry from rubbing off on your fingers or keep dirt sweat water etc basically anything that can damage the paint layer from destroying the paint layer like using lacquer or varnish or. Basically I’m asking is there any way to keep the paint layer of these blackest black paints from coming off once dry. Basically protecting it for a long time
Hi! Yes they will all work on plastics as long as you prime it. As to your second question, I really doubt it. Any layer over the top will add reflection thus they won’t appear as dark. I’ve tended to use them in places that have no interaction with elements, ie people don’t touch them ☺️
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out (sorry for sounding like a broken record, if it has), one of the biggest reasons for bland packaging is more money was spent producing the product. Would you rather pay more for product that fulfills the objective, or mediocre product in a pretty box and tube? Hmm. Super expensive products spend a lot of product AND packaging. It's not the best way to indicate to the consumers which product is worth the purchase price, because cheaper brands make cheap versions AND have cheap packaging. But with consumer law on the consumer's side, if you can afford mid-range, go for the one with bland packaging first.
@@MrsRen there are no fumes. It’s just paint. I have all these paints they don’t smell any worse either. In fact there’s actually information MSDS for musou black and no information for culture hustle paints (I’m sure they’re fine they just don’t have them)
@@MrsRen i have musou black and used for spraying as well as brush work ...what smell ? little to none and what i can smell is not a horendous smell as she portrays
@@tafrog5552 Both of you are ignoring the fact that people have different noses and sensitivity to smells. Just because you don't smell something doesn't mean others won't.
I recently used black 3.0 on a painting I did on a wood panel. Love the finish when it dries - however - if you are planning to seal the painting (which you almost have to - I'll explain in a sec) the spray varnishes/finishes will almost ruin it's matte finish. It works better over the top of a sealed painting. Also, whatever you do - NEVER, and I mean never, let it drip, spit, trickle or fall onto an area where it will stand out. The stuff stains EVERYTHING. The instant it falls onto raw wood, canvas, etc., the material will be stained. I had three drips and had to end up using a dremel tool to 'carve' out the area where the paint fell = use it over something that has been sealed - it will help with clean up and cut down on staining issues. Thanks for the video - I can't wait to try the other paints.
Have you tried adding just a tad of water to the Black 4.0? It decreases the tackiness and improves coverage and leveling. Comparing 3.0 with 4.0 when their viscosities have been matched shows 4.0 to be less reflective in my test.
Interesting! I haven’t, I was going to do some research to work out how I could thin it enough to use in an airbrush. So you’re using just straight tap water not distilled?
@@StuffBySunshine Yes, straight tap water. Just as with regular acrylic paint, you can thin with up to about 35% water without destroying the ability of the paint to form a film with good integrity. To dilute the pigment or decrease the opacity further, it’s generally best to use a medium (matte or gloss). But because 4.0 is more matte than matte medium, the reflectivity would actually increase. So water is the ticket for improving the wettability of both the paper and the brush (dampen both, just as you would with watercolor) and for improving leveling (and hence blackness!). Distilled water would be fine, too.
I agree I have 2 and 3 and use water to make them both more workable and its fine. Also 2 works much like a regular acrylic and I saw a CH video suggesting priming with 2 - which takes well and then paint the 3 after. This might also apply to 4 but I watched the video before its release.
@@StuffBySunshine Isopropyl alcohol works well for this. It doesn't dilute the pigment and it dries faster. The only thing to watch out for is using too much alcohol if you are doing thick layers. It will dry so fast the paint can crack. I learned most of this from other graffiti artists who often thin acrylics for use in mops and markers. It also helps if they want drips in their tag. Wetting the paint lets it go on to the surface smoother and that really helps with matte colors.
Now that I know the pros and cons. I'm going with black 3.0. My eldest son gave permission for me to paint murals in his room and I have been taking my brain for the ceiling until about a week or so ago. Doing a glow in the dark galaxy sky on the ceiling and I think black 3.0 would be perfect to make the glowing POP💥💥🌟✨✨💥. Can't wait to get started now thanks for the review.
No worries! Glad it’s helped! That’s a great idea for an ultra black. Are you going to use lesser blacks for star clouds and the ultra for the void? Or just all black 3.0?
This video was more interesting than I originally thought it would be. I think you also did a really good job on the last test. Must have been really hard to find a way to integrate those blacks into your “normal” works…
Geo! 😂 you may have seen in stream the three or four painting styles I tried before selling on this one. Everything else was just too blobby and dominant. I was actually considering doing a black and white portrait again but wanted to add some color. Really glad you liked it! I suspect this video will be the one I’ve put the most effort into but will get the lowest views 😂
I've been using Black 3.0 for a few years in home cinemas for touching up reflective items such as visible screws heads that just can't be physically hidden. It's superb and sensible money.
True! Although I’m hearing report that over time it looses a bit of its matte color. Ie fresh black 3.0 seems to be darker from the pot than older aged paint
I just ordered the Musou for the inside of my telescope, because now it's more dark grey, and some parts are shiny black anodized aluminium which cause reflections. The blacker the inside, the higher the contrast will be, and therefore a better image. Your video was very helpful, because I wanted to know how strong it was 👍😁 Many Thanks 👌
If you can afford the increased material thickness (and monetary cost), the fabrics provided by the same company as mosou are even blacker, so at least worth consideration for telescopes and lenses / lens hoods. Having said that, the paint is of course a lot more versatile I am really looking forward to the possibility of further testing of these 3 paints, using an airbrush. As they are likely to need thinning for that test anyway, I would be interested in another side-by-side using a paintbrush but thinned to much more similar viscosities, as i wonder if some of the 'raw' properties of 4.0 ended up working against it
@@BobSmun It's quite thick, so I painted the first layer with a brush, and it caused fine stripes. So the second layer I diluted the paint a bit, and it dried very evenly, and looks almost like it's paintbrushed 👍. I'm very satisfied with the end result, and my telescope is pitch black inside.
I was hesitant to use the musou on my guitar, but after seeing yours, and a few other videos, I think it can be primed, applied, and matte clear finished and retain strength and darkness.
Thankyou and no worries! I tried to make it as comprehensive as possible to a point I figured I was boring people ☺️. Thanks for watching paint dry with me!
I still have one of the first batches of Black 2.0 from Stuart Semple. I've heard 3.0 and 4.0 are blacker, but for the very rare occasions I paint something... why? Black 2.0 was already way blacker than any other black paint, black 3.0 is even blacker. I feel like the only selling point of Musou is bragging rights that it is blacker than Black 3.0. Musou makes you physically sick, and you can't use it in a studio without protective equipment, and it's not THAT much blacker than Semple's paints. Certainly not noticeably so unless you have samples directly next to each other, and I feel like that's really the only time Musou would really make a difference and wouldn't be worth exposure to the fumes. Musou is blacker, but Semple's paints are usable without killing yourself on fumes.
Have you found the black 2.0 has gotten less black as times gone on? I’ve heard the 3 and I’m assuming 4 ages and becomes a lighter color as time goes on.
Fantastic video, brilliant production quality. Informative as hell. I’m going to be painting a balrog miniature on my channel with the blackest paint I can. I’ll be sure to credit you in my research. 🤘
Thankyou! Glad you liked it. Oh nice! Are you going to use multiple blacks to get darker and darker shadows or just an ultra black for all the darks? I’ll have to have a hunt for the video when it comes out ☺️
It’d be interesting to see, I’m finding using ultra blacks work best when combined with normal blacks. The eye recognises the normal black as “black” and the ultra blacks as a deeper darker blacker black. It’s great for contrast. Good luck with your Balrog!
You're talking about tiny differences in percentage light absorption, but it makes a very big difference in well lit conditions. Fighting over fractions of a percent and the quantum mechanics of how they absorb light makes the application method extremely important, and obviously that's airbrushing. Hopefully you can try that out too, great video.
Thank u for this professional test! I am a scientist and u worked like one to find the most brutal colour which is blacker than the blackest black on the market....Metal🤘 So all hail to Musou 🙌
@@StuffBySunshine I appreciate it! This colours are very expensive and U are a professional artist. If I would test these I would ask myself....do I use the wrong surface, brush or technique....because on the paper of refractory index measures Black 4.0 should be the darkest. But the thing is how U measure. So what U did was a reality check. And this is easier said than done because U need to erase all of your own expectations. I really enjoyed it!
Puzzles me, that i was instructed to use 3 coats and a hair dryer between every layer of black 3.0 🤔 Surely this make all of the paints better yet? Very profesionally made testing, the facemask really showed how dedicated you are 👌
That’s interesting! I usually use a hair dryer on water floor but it effects the way it drys quite substantially so I intentionally decided to not use one on the blacks for that reason. I didn’t or hadn’t read that black 3.0 suggested it, it could be that using the heat and the quick dry makes the particles stand vertical giving us more of a velvet finish? I’ll have to experiment and see. Thankyou, glad you enjoyed ☺️💜
Different people are sensitive to different smells. I've painted things with Musou black, and I didn't even notice a smell. I opened it up after watching this video, and yeah, there is a smell, but to me it's not offensive and I had to put my nose practically in the bottle to smell it. For me, a respirator is definitely not necessary. I do have one just like yours, but really only break it out for truly obnoxious products like polyester casting resin, most epoxy glues (especially the plastic repair types), and 3D resin printer resin.
Interestingly I used it yesterday to paint the eyes of a golden skull. It’s much much better than when I first opened it. I’m wondering if wherever they use as a thinner “burns off” over time. When I originally used it my friend who was here had headaches for ages so yeah it was bad, tho not so anymore 🤔
@@StuffBySunshine You may also have gotten unlucky, and had a bottle that got overheated in shipping. Musou Black's MSDS describes it as having only stable polymers with a "slight acrylic odor", but if you heat acrylic paint, the polymers can break down into acrylate monomers which have a nasty, acrid odor that are detectibly offensive even at less than 1 part per million.
Wow, I have no need of your other videos (not my stuff) but damn girl, Your review of those paints is deep, well thought and great connected into single video that I watch from left to right. Great job! Consider exploring other topic like those paints as your review it top ! I will sub and see what future brings.
I absolutely love this review so much. It's so in depth and has given me all the info I need! But as a side note girl I hope you fixed that squeaking going on in the video because it's like nails down a chalk board 😭
So glad you got something from it 💜. And apologies for the noise, I think your hearing two small gentleman called Percy and Cecil. Alas screaming for attention and chirping just to be little buggers is the lot of cockatiels🙃. I’m a few vids on from this one and they are still a big problem, I think I’m going to have to include them in the videos just to keep em happy tbh
@@StuffBySunshine At least if people come into your stream and see you wearing a mask, you jokingly tell them that your getting ready for an apocalypse 😂
You did such an incredible job putting this video together! I love how you did the comparisons, and how much you describe everything about the process from how easily they went on to how they did being scraped off! I always just assumed that these paints were a viable alternative to vantablack, but apparently they are nowhere near it, unfortunately.
Thankyou! I’d love to get some vantablack to compare them to. I’m always curious how they film the vantablack as there are so many camera tricks to make black look blacker. Vanta black may in reality actually not be that black🤔.
Wait...I think there's an error. It says you have 2.76k Subscribers...not 2.76 Million. The production quality is too good to be that undersubscribed. Welp, let's add one really quick!
Thanks for the sub! 😂 the reason for that is of course that unfortunately there Arnt that many people on RU-vid who want to watch paint dry for 40 min 😋
Predominantly because it didn’t specify to do that. I wanted to try them all exactly as they came and it’s supposed to be a paint you can use without thinning. I think all three paints would have worked far better with thinning and airbrushing multiple thin layers but that’s not how many artists plan on using them, thus this test 💜
this was fantasticly informative...I already bought 150ml. of black4.0about 2 months ago. I wish I would of seen this video first. I would of not gotten it. the musou is by far the better black.... but you definitely turned me off to it with the odor problem. I had high expectations for this paint and planned on using it exactly how you did. all in all I don't think it's worth it. thank you very much for doing this and sorry you had to risk your health to do it.
So I’m going to do a follow up video for that soon. I’ve brought several versions of Musou over than last few months and some are really bad for the door and some Arnt weirdly. I’m also finding that if you let the Musou black paint age it smells less terrible. Not 100% certain if it becomes less black with the age tho🤷🏼♀️. We’ll test it (soonish) and find out☺️
Hello sunshine, 😇return to start of experiment. To harden the Musou black at the scratch, you must add MAT catalyst for polyester resin (this is the composition of the Musou black) I haven't tried 3.0; I have enough experimentation to do with Musou for the moment. On wood or paper, the backgrounds must be prepared with special resin primer paints tinted black or MAT black. A very expensive addition of products, but for what I am going to do with it it is worth the cost. Have a nice day. I live in France, so you will have to look online for catalyst mat in your country 🙃
Thankyou for that! I assumed there was some type of catalyst in the Musou based upon the smell but wasn't sure what to look. Searching for Polyester resin catalyst it comes straight up. I'll have to try some and see how it effects the paint 💜
Thank you I wanted to know which was the blackest but not enough to pay for the Culture Hustle paints. Also feel I should say, I haven't noticed a smell with my Musou maybe it changes from jar to jar.
Thankyou! I’m thinking about buying a heap of Musou black from as many distributors as I can and doing a smell comparison. So many people say it doesn’t small I’m so curious to see if it’s a thinner used in one specific version
I am reluctant to try Musou, as I worry about the scent of it, but I may have to. I have been wanting to do a dramatic, highly contrasting art piece with a black background and heavily pigmented focal subject but have been reluctant to use my Black. Yes, it's not 2, 3, or 4. It's Semple's OG Black. It's nice but it dries quite 'chalky' looking and while it does absorb light, it's got an almost grey appearance to it when light hits it. I am a huge fan of Japanese-made art and stationary supplies however and if Musou is the most pitch-black (per say), I may have to invest in it eventually to try.
Sounds like an awesome project! Yeah in terms of the light absorption I definitely think musou would work well. If it helps, it doesn’t continue to smell once it’s dried!
First I loved this video I actually subscribed quickly in to it Ty and very entertaining. Second. I have used black 3.0 and had very good results that last for years on canvas. One thing I suggest you try is thinning it down and do multiple thin coats with even a sponge brush to reduce brush marks. As these are able to be thinned extensively for airbrush they work were well thin. Every layer seems darker than before. I do have airbrushes now but oddly have not used the 3.0 ( I guess I will give that a try soon)
Thankyou! Glad you enjoyed ☺️. Yes I’ve heard that, and apparently the black 4.0 is a lot more usable when doing so. I wanted to keep the black things as consistent as possible with this test and just followed the instructions on the bottle . One of these days I’ll get an airbrush and compare them all again using a thin layers, I think they will all most likely be much darker ☺️💜
I think I heard from another artist that for the best performance Black 4.0 should be airbrushed. Because of the chalky nature the pigment sticks better and the particles actually "stand up" to absorb more light, if that makes sense.
Yes it does actually, if you look really close at the musou that’s what’s happening to make it more light absorbent. I think all of them would be much darker if we used an airbrush ☺️
Yup sure it could have, I could have likely got it under 5min. But I’m making these for artists so they can make up their own mind. Usually that means they want to see all the tests! 😂 I actually get more complaints that I’ve sped up the painting, some peeps want to watch the hrs of that in real time🤷🏼♀️. This is a happy medium💜
I regret that I am only able to give one "thumbs up" on this masterpiece! It must have taken several days to produce. Thanks much for this valuable information!
very interesting - just want to mention some water based paints take a week to cure for optimum performance - also blackboard paint demands breaking in prior to use - the whole surface needs to chalked
Interesting! I didn’t know that re the blackboard paint. I would love love LOVE to say I didn’t leave these paints for a week due to me getting these videos out so regularly, but I’m so slow making these I think the actual tests sat for atleast 2 weeks before I filmed them 😂
The website for Musou has reflectance graphs for their paint showing airbrushing it results in about a 40%~ reduction in reflected light. Given the only real reason to use these paints is to achieve the darkest result possible, it seems an odd choice to not go with or include airbrushing if you're trying to show and compare these paints. It may not be as accessible as brushing it on, but... it's not like it's inaccessible or too expensive or too uncommon for at home use.
Well to be fair I don’t own one, but also I wanted to do a test using a brush as that’s what a lot of traditional artists use to apply paint. Sure som people will play a piece with an airbrush but a lot more use these types of paints just for a splash of darkness thus the brush! I will do a v2 test video in the future with an airbrush tho, just to see how they respond ☺️
It’s a velvet and I grade the shots of me differently to the shots of the paint. The paint I try and make as color accurate as possible but I try and make me look less tired so it’s graded😂
Well because this is a review of the paint. Sure, pretty certain these would be darker with an airbrush as you wouldn’t see the paint strokes but that’s a different review
id say the way these paints were showcased was more thorough than most videos i find, the performance of each paint was quite interesting, especially when they were overexposed to the studio light. musou still reigns supreme as the "blackest black" the shade is so...black? idk, i just rly like it compared to blck 4.0. musou black looks the closest to form a "2d" effect. well done!
Yeah it does (musou gives the best result that is), I think I’ll get myself an airbrush because I just expected so much more from Black 4.0 and it want there. Future videos!
Well to be fair, it’s not super popular. With a light absorption of 98.75 I assumed it wouldn’t be close to the 4.0 and Musou. Perhaps I’ll play with it in the future ☺️
For sure, I think you might be interested in seeing that stuff used as spray paint for a car, it looks absolutely wild... The video is titled Spraying a Car in the WORLD'S BLACKEST Paint (Darker than Vanta Black?)@@StuffBySunshine
That's been an issue I've had with expensive paints in the past, amazing effects but durability issues. i prefer to sacrifice light fastness for durability as my work is archived and not exposed to daylight. I know this is intended as a model paint, however i see the issue with durability is even more a factor, as to protect the paint you would have to apply a clear protective coating, which most likely effects the blackness. It seems to me to be a novelty for people with an expertise in modeling and crafting, with the disposable income. a lot of the issues you demonstrated are reasons I gave up acrylics for water colors. apart form my love for water colors as an expressive medium. If I did pick up acrylic paints again, I feel my experience would be, that I would purchased them as a novelty, hold onto to them because they were expensive, then after a couple of years, either try to gave them away to a serious crafts person, or sought means to properly dispose of them. with regular paints - if they scrape or peal, i can give then away to a student artist who would be happy to receive them. less money for better durability and almost as black, seems a better option.
I think I probably could have done a lightfast test with these as well as it took me so long to film (atleast a day between coats) but I didn’t actually think of that till the end. I’m not exactly sure what it’s primarily intended for, I really wanted to compare these paints but it wasn’t until I hit the art section filming a few weeks in, that I started looking at what people were doing with these paints. True there are some model painters but there’s a lot who seem to be just trying it and seeing what happens. To be fair the cheap acrylic really had few issues other than not being super dark. But I guess yeah acrylic does sit on top while watercolor embeds so there’s always the worry it’ll come off. I didn’t talk costs but at last look the black 3.0 is cheaper than the 4.0 and about the same as the Musou. It’s a bit more $$ than premium acrylic paint but in line with something that’s made in such small batches. If you get a chance in the future you should try it, its a fun experience ☺️💜
This was a really fantastic and thorough review of the paints and certainly saved me some money ;). I have used the Musuo Black several times (mainly to eliminate any stray reflections from light barriers in photography) and I have a bottle on my desk now. I have never noticed any real odor from the paint. But to be fair I also have some Black 3.0 (my comparison of the two pretty well matched yours) and I never noticed a coffee smell. I swear I do have a sense of smell.
Really? That’s so strange? I had a headache for days. Did your smell when you initially opened it? I’m wondering if it’s something that burns off after a while. Yes my black 3.0 is the same now, no smell. Apparently it ages tho and becomes less black as time goes on so I’m assuming the smell is an indicator of that
@@StuffBySunshine No my bottle never had any real odor and a year later it's still just as black. After watching your video I saw another of a guy who painted his SUV with Musuo Black. He never mentioned a smell or wore protective gear. I wonder if you got an off bottle?
Maybe, I’d been warned about it before I got it by other artists. I’m wondering if there is a difference between the Asian branded Musou and the English? Mine still smells like death in a jar so perhaps they have difference based upon where they are intended for?
@@StuffBySunshine Mine is the English branded bottle. Perhaps that's the difference? The video of the guy painting his car is called "The World’s Blackest Car." He goes through maybe a dozen or so bottles and doesn't mention odor.
That’s interesting, I found the 3.0 to be pretty robust but while culture hustle suggests both super base and black 3.0 as primers for the 4.0 I didn’t see a huge amount of difference using the 3.0 as a primer. I’ll have to grab some super base and check it out ☺️
😂 I’m just a smol RU-vidr. I’m get so excited when anyone watches my stuff I always try and reply☺️. Really? That sounds like some great stuff! Apparently the black 3 and black 4 ages once the bottle is open (a few people have mentioned this) does the super base last a while? Postage is so expensive it’s usually cheaper for me to buy a larger amount.
Thankyou! That one did take a while 😂. It seems to be mostly artists who watch my stuff, so gotta make sure it’s comprehensive enough they can make there own minds up ☺️
Mousou black is meant to be applied in many thin layers via airbrush... if you simply use a brush to apply it, it just reaches around 97% of absorption vs the 99.7% possible when applied via airbrush... its not a color, ita a nano carbon structure in which the light gets lost when applied correctly
Ehile im sad that black 4.0 didnt win i still think its the best because how close it was to musou without the issues of musou. I do wish there was a video of doing painting with black 4.0 to figure out the best way to paint it. Like the right way to apply it and the best ratios of paint to whatever people add.
this was super informing. I've been researching what paint to cover a giant concrete thumb with and I originally was going to go with black 4.0. The musou performed way better I'm so glad i saw this before I went ahead with the project!
I've been working with all three of them for a little while now. I personally use them interchangeably depending on the project. An you'll have a better time painting Black 3.0/4.0. by thinning it with some water, sure it will need more coats but you'll have more control. For spray painting black 3.0 an 4.0 (though thinned) and Musou Black for painting detail work. But admittedly I would use Musou Black more if it didn't just stink so so badly, the smell can allmost cling to things. Naw, my personal gripe is trying to find a matte sealant that won't screw with its effect. I haven't even been able to test out Culture Hustles own Matte Coat they made for it *because they seemingly rarely ever restock.*
I think that Musou is darker because their use of strong chemicals alows them to use substances with deeper absorbtion levels. I think I'd have issues using such paints, as I'm sensitive to smells. 3.0 and 4.0 are designed to be handled with a very soft brush, instead of an airbrush, so they dont need such aggressive dilutants, nor specialised equipment. I also find Musou's marketing tactics to be extremely decieving and shady. Their website comparisons are photoshopped and/or faked, making Black 3.0 look like cheap acrylic. Not to mention advertising via "we painted a car" while stating that its not for automotive use. The paint also damages the painted surfaces and may cause them to crack or melt/shrink. Ultimately, this is just a rooster measuring contest between companies, and both Musou and Black would perform admirably. I think that Musou is for advanced painters, who really need that edge case issue solved, while Black can be handled by a kid with a brush. At one point or another, black is black enough, and unless you're painting specialised equipment, and know what you're doing, I'd go for Black 3.0, not only because it's easier to use, but also because their advertising isn't based on "look how shit this other company is, look at our undisclosed sponsorships!"
What would be a better substrate to mix with musou? alcohol could be an alternate as it could hydrate more than distilled water could. Also would a primed and scuffed surface provide better adhesion while getting more outputs from the bottle?
Yeah people have said that, but the point of the test is to try It “as it comes”. At the time (they may say so now) there was no recommendation to thin any of the paint so I just followed best practices from each website.
@@StuffBySunshine yeah I get you. But I’m sure the makes say add water to the 4.0 as well but great video. I was thinking about getting one of the paints and using it on old vintage lenses. Take them apart and paint them to boost contrast and the like with the paints. Still not sure which to go for though but great video thank you.
Thank you very much for this very complete test. It confirms my test on the black 3.0 which is more a dark grey. Indeed I do artprints with sublimation and the black I get with sublimation is way blacker than the 3.0. However, sublimation printings are not as flat. I am a little bit obsessed with black color because I want my images to float in the air
No worries at all! Glad you enjoyed it. Have you done any tests to see how much blacker the sublimation ink is to acrylic paints? I’m assuming you’re using a machine so it would likely be putting down a very even coat. In think I’ll borrow an airbrush just for my own curiosity and see how back these paints are vs the brush method. Black that looks like holes in space is the ultimate goal!💜
Hi, well, sublimation is a printing technique that consists of sublimating an ink onto a specific plate (Chromaluxe) at high temperature. The result is extremely high contrast and deep blacks. However, the finish remains glossy or satin, and you don't get the flatness of the paints you've tested. I'll try to make a video that I'll invite you to watch.@@StuffBySunshine
I’m not an artist, nor will I probably ever use these products; however, I stayed for the whole video! (I created a YT account just to leave this comment) Thank you!
nice presentation :) here they sprayed a car with black 4.0 and there is a difference in how it is applied: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ll27OkWuE1g.html when you look at what color the scraped off black 4.0 "heaps" are (darker than the painted on bit right next to it) that would perhaps illustrate that a structured surface has a function in its properties. perhaps not too durable, however.
Interesting! I’ve seen that video and yeah I did wonder how long the paint would last, particularly on a moving car. It’d be fun to see the car a week, a month and a year after 😂
Haha that was again a cool test! I find it very interesting that the Black 3.0 smells like coffee (one of the best aromas out there) vs the Musou Black with its weapons-grade stank. 😹 Also I think the “musou” here probably means “peerless”… so a peerless black, which it definitely has proven to be true here. And, definitely, the scientist in me wonders how those look like when airbrushed… I assume that, once you get down to these ultra blacks, surface texture (or rather, the lack thereof) should play a huge part in reaching the maximum light absorption levels. We’ll see, if you ever get down to trying them with the airbrush. That being said, the brush test honestly sounds like the most useful, as that’s really the most convenient form of application in art pieces! 😺
I think the coffee smell it was an intentional thing from the maker. I Didn’t mention it but I was really curious as to how the black 4.0 would smell. Slightly disappointed they didn’t bother either it😕. I think I’d have to do some experimenting with thinners to make both the 3.0 and definitely the 4.0 thinner before they would work with an airbrush. But yeah when I get an airbrush (eventually) I’ll do something. Maybe just a live stream as after 40 minutes of black people are likely sick of it 😂
@@bal4cars Yes it does, I Used Muso on next weeks video (goldest Gold) and its still there but much less of a problem. I think its whatever they use to thin the paint which burns off after usage
Fantastic video. Plus it's great to find more Aussie creative RU-vidrs. Thank you for your hard work. I have Black 3.0 and had been doing some tests myself, like comparing various blacks I have, putting various matt varnishes over blacks to compare (which makes Black 3.0 look terrible) and trying crackle paint over the top of it (which just shrinks and peels itself right off). Great to find your channel and I do hope you continue to do more experimental stuff like this.
Thankyou! I think if you manage to find something you can coat on any of these specialty blacks and retain the light absorption that would be very really interesting. I haven’t heard of anything unfortunately. I’ve been slowly (slowly as work keeps getting in the way😂) making my way through everything I think that interesting so hopefully I’ll be able to get some more vids out soon ☺️💜
Woh! I was not expecting you to be here when I clicked on the video. Awesome to find you in the wilds of RU-vid Sunshine! P.S. Clicked the video trying to find blacks for coating equipment. You're totally ontop of it I see. I'm re-furbishing some camera lenses and while I have them apart I was going to give the inside barrel a coat in one of these super black paints. Ironically, these blacks would look blacker if there were fewer internal reflections inside the camera lens barrel, which scatters light across the camera sensor.
Well I spaced them out based brightest to darkest upon the reported light absorption amount. In theory if everything was what it claimed it should have been lightest to darkest. 🤷♀️
Cheers for a brilliant review, you've earned yourself another sub! Despite your final summary, I will take my chances, live with the stench and order myself some Musou though. ;-)
Thankyou! Glad you enjoyed ☺️. I must admit while I love the 3.0 when I’m going for as black as possible i tend to more grab the musou myself. Its negatives aside it does do a good job!
